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6:00 PM
@Himarm Siberia was Zemo's whole end-goal
 
cap and stark fighting was the end goal
siberia happened to facilitate it
 
I would have thought Stark (or the Avengers) would have cracked all those Hydra files.
 
but he probably could have avoided it
 
so he frames Bucky for something, stark/cap fight, they find Bucky was innocent, now what?
the whole reason they were fighting is because Cap wanted to go after Zemo and Tony didn't believe him.
if there is no Zemo, where's Cap going? he just goes into hiding
 
if anyone wants to take a crack at it:
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6:01 PM
when start finds out about bucky killing his parents, stark wants to personally kill bucky, even if bucky wasnt innocent, cap would have fought stark on the priciples of stark killing someone, instead of a trail/jail
 
and yes, we have a question specifically asking how there is camera footage of the crash
 
whether it was in siberia or not doesnt mater
 
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Q: How is it possible there is footage available of this incident?

Jash JacobIn Captain America: Civil War, it is revealed that How is it possible that there was any footage available of this event?

 
stark seeing that clip was endgame
because he is irrational
 
easy explanation: it's just a traffic camera
 
6:03 PM
in 1991?
in the woods?
 
harder explanation: that's not a major road. pretty unlikely for there to have been one
 
@Himarm so then if Zemo could just mail stark that video whenever he wanted, why did he lure everyone to Siberia at all?
 
id believe traffic camera today, but not 25 years ago
he had already lured captain and bucky to siberia
 
and i swear i remember something saying that it happened on the robert moses causeway, but i cant find anything now
 
why reveal the death of the shrink so everyone knew Bucky was innocent?
 
6:04 PM
because he had to personally involve bucky
 
i may need to lay off the drugs
 
@Himarm if bucky was already a wanted man, and then he just emails tony video of bucky killing his parents, how is that not personally involving bucky?
 
@Himarm i've watched enough old law & order episodes to know that it's feasible - but again, on that road, unlikely.
 
do that while everyone's still in Vienna, get the whole team involved.
 
because CAP knows someone is behind it
 
6:04 PM
I'm wondering how that helps him. Unless, revealing he is innocent means the team will come back together to try and take down the other WSs' in Siberia
 
CAP only knows someone is behind it because Zemo let him know
 
zemo didnt let him know
 
he basically told Bucky where he was going.
 
he didnt move fast enough
 
and then let him run off
and then Zemo went to Sibera and waited around
 
6:06 PM
he revealed bucky was innocent only to stark though
 
he didn't just go there, grab what he wanted, and run away.
 
since the entire rest of the avengers/others are in jail
 
How did stark know the location in Siberia?
 
@JackBNimble Falcon told him, I think.
 
^
 
6:07 PM
he went to see the secret avengers in jail and convinced Falcon that he believed Bucky
 
Like all brilliant villain plans, this one might have a few holes.
 
framing bucky, was to get cap to catch bucky, so he could then get into the interogation room with bucky so he could find siberia, and find that tape
 
that's all fine.
 
if the russian just told him about siberia, he would have gotten the tape, emailed it to ironman
 
but once he has the location of Sibera, the rest of his plan makes no sense.
 
6:07 PM
and cap would have ended up fighting ironman anyway on principle
 
"I will go there and murder the other winter soldiers then sit around and wait for the Avengers to comes to me to show them this video I could have emailed in less time that it took to type this sentence."
 
after all of these extra events happened, why not have the show down in person, in siberia since captain is already headed up their
 
may have missed it, but i didnt get why zemo cared about the night of the crash
 
Maybe. Surely Stark knows Rogers is looking for Bucky (for the last 2 years). Then Bucky is framed for a UN hit AND Stark gets a video of Bucky killing his parents.
 
always asking for the status report (or whatever it was)
 
6:08 PM
However, how did Zemo know that Rogers wouldn't sign the accords and be a good little Avenger?
 
@phantom42 I'm assuming he knew something about that footage, since he knew about the winter soldier book.
 
Mission Report January... something 1991
 
@phantom42 so he knew he had stuff to incriminate Bucky in the murders
he just needed to find it.
 
Right, he presumably was able to find out the key members of the WS program and that the WS completed a mission on that date. Maybe he did a search and discovered it corresponded with the Stark family deaths and connected the dots.
 
oh.. did that lead him to the guy with the book?
 
6:10 PM
and since that's what WS stole from the car that day, he figured that finding the WS home base would find the footage to use against the Avengers
@phantom42 I dunno if we ever find out how he knew that part.
 
real question is, why not just use the 5 super solders to kill bucky, cap and iron man
presumably they would win a 5v3 brawl
only what the vision and spiderman are out of jail?
after that whole shindig
 
because watching them tear each other apart is more vindicating
 
its stupid
winning is more vindicating
 
cuz Zemo was just some dude living in NYC, I think, so they never really explain how he knows all about HYDRA
 
it wasnt about killing them
it was about tearing the team apart
he wanted to watch the empire fall
 
6:12 PM
he could have showed stark the video
 
or something like that
 
and unleashed the super soilders
now its a 3 way brawl
 
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Q: Why does Zemo want to know what happened in December 1991?

NeowAt the end of Captain America: Civil War, Zemo reveals that But around the middle of the film, he in order to learn what happened on 16 December 1991. It doesn't seem to be an essential part of the plan, and everything has already happened when all is revealed. Actually to me it looks mor...

no good answer yet.
I'll have to pay more attention if I go back next weekend
 
it was the idiots own fault, lets drive my family to where the avengers are fighting with half of a city miles in the air
u turn around and drive as fast as you can the other way if you see the avengers
spiderman you maybe can stay and watch
 
I'm pretty they lived there.
he said something about his son watching Iron Man out his bedroom window
 
6:14 PM
@KutuluMike he says he drove his family up to a spot to watch
like a family trip
 
how does that answer have 12 upvotes?
it doesnt really answer the question
 
this is what that idiot did to his family
the welcome to earth hipies on the roof
 
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Q: Where did Helmut Zemo get all his HYDRA knowledge?

KutuluMikeHelmut Zemo, the main protagonist of Captain America 3: Civil War, shows a rather odd level of knowledge about HYDRA operations throughout the movie. For example, he seems to know a lot about the Winter Soldier program and UN security protocols, including: He intends is to use this knowledge...

 
@KutuluMike I think from the leaked Hydra documents he discovered a mission involving the Winter Soldier took place at the same time as the Stark accident, and he suspected they were the same thing. He just needed proof in order to pit the Avengers against each other.
 
6:29 PM
that makes sense.
they did mention the leaked documents in the movie.
I think?
 
6:56 PM
yes, zemo mentioned using all of the files released by nat
but that many were encrypted
so he had to decipher them
that zemo spoiler question needs massive editing
and closing
 
@phantom42 I just edited it and answered with rumors and hearsay.
 
ok.
i'm not gonna bother posting this one.
but how did Zemo know that Captain America was friends with the Winter Soldier in the first place?
 
@KutuluMike He went to that Captain America exhibit in D.C.
 
also, does bucky have a vibranium arm now?
 
Why wasn't the Winter Soldier wearing his mask in 1991?
I assume he'll get some kind of prosthetic upgrade. Will its till have a red star?
 
7:18 PM
he'll get a coulson arm
 
With an energy shield.
 
 
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8:44 PM
The likely reason Zemo didn't just email the video to Tony is that he needed Bucky to be right there when Tony saw it. If Tony just saw it in his house, his rage would likely die out by the time he found Bucky, if he even could in the first place.
And that would mean no Avengers trying to kill each other.
 
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Q: Are the public at large aware that Tony Stark created Ultron?

SidneySo we as viewers and the Avengers as a whole of course know that Tony Stark created Ultron. The question is, is the general public aware of this?

 
9:45 PM
@RogueJedi Little did he know just how close to boiling over the Avengers already were.
 
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Q: Why does the Marvel Cinematic Universe story differ from the comics?

Ishan TanejaSimply why does the Marvel Cinematic Universe story differ from the comics.I mean if they had taken up a single comic or storyline or universe I could understand, but instead they take out some stories from here and there.Any particular reason for that? I ask this because I feel there is so much...

 
@agentobie Well, there's someone with a fundamental misunderstanding of how movies and comics work.
 
@AgentObie That is a disappointing question.
@Catija Yes but they could have taken up one version.Also they could not have messed up Ghost Rider. — Ishan Taneja 3 mins ago
That comment is why I voted to close.
So, is Suicide Squad set before or after Batman V Superman?
Are the scenes with the Joker flashbacks or are they current?
Because it seems unlikely to me that the Batman in BvS would allow the Joker to still be alive.
 
I assumed the Batman in BvS allowed the Joker to win.
Joker killed Robin so Batman quit
 
Well, Batman seems surprised to know that other metahumans exist in Dawn of Justice.
 
9:55 PM
Joker's not a metahuman
he's just crazy.
 
I would say Killer Croc is quasi-meta humanish.
 
The guy who can create fire is definitely metahuman.
 
But I don't believe the same Batman who killed all of Lex's henchmen and was ready to kill Superman would hold back from killing the Joker after murdering Jason Todd.
 
10:11 PM
@AgentObie maybe worth pointing out that at least phase 1 was largely cribbed from the ultimate universe
 
@phantom42 I still think Krypton is just Gotham but with no Superman instead of no Batman.
At least there are some non-Batman Gotham citizens people care about.
I don't think the same is true of Krypton
 
@phantom42 If it is on SyFy it will likely not succeed.
 
10:36 PM
has any series on syfy actually succeeded?
 
battlestar, the stargates
 
@phantom42 what do you define as succeeding?
Haven, Warehouse 13, and Eureka all went five seasons, IIRC.
 
but besides bsg, they all just had "good for syfy" ratings, didn't they?
 
i dunno, I'm having trouble finding basic cable ratings.
BSG was in the low-to-mid 2's most of it's run.
 
the stargates had like 16 seasons
they were one of the most expensive shows on cable, for a while
 
10:46 PM
but 2.0 rating on cable is like, remarkable.
TWD and GoT regularly do way better then that.
after that, if you exclude sports, it drops significantly.
 
stargate season 9 had highs at 2.1 and average of 1.8
 
The Stargates were movie spin-offs, which I'm sure helped at least somewhat with ratings
 
well they threw the movie away in about 5 min of the first episode
then 11 seasons later, plus 5 of atlantis lol
 
the 'homecoming' trigger word was not an intentional nod to spidey
 
I didn't think it was. The timing wouldn't really make sense.
 
10:58 PM
eh. lots of things are done in pickup shots
those werent action scenes. those could have been shot/reshot or just redubbed at the end
 
@phantom42 It would be such a strange reference though.
Spiderman: Homecoming: It'll turn you into a brainwashed assassin!
 
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