The Junk Drawer

@darthnesscoveredthesky believe me when I tell you this, I have deleted several accounts before I have settled - never do that unless it is absolutely necessary

darthnesscoveredthesky

@SabreTooth Why?

J. Musser

I wish room owners didn't have to have italicised names.

Sabre Tooth

12:06 AM

@darthnesscoveredthesky other members lose the rep that your votes gave; people remember

darthnesscoveredthesky

@J.Musser I didn't notice until now :0

@SabreTooth Let them remember, say "Take that, you ran me off. Deal with it".

J. Musser

@SabreTooth Not if they voted a lot. With enough votes, like you did on GL, they get transferred to the community user.

That's why the community user has a vote count.

Sabre Tooth

@darthnesscoveredthesky not a nice thing to do at all

@J.Musser on Travel, a person lost over 1600 rep from a removed user

J. Musser

@SabreTooth Ilive isn't a 'nice' person.

darthnesscoveredthesky

@SabreTooth The accounts I want to delete, I have not done anything on. No posts, votes, etc. I am "JKing", like everybody else says.

@J.Musser That's not nice or true, I am very nice.

Zach Saucier

12:10 AM

I don't know how I feel about the new question

michaelpri

@ZachSaucier Haha Same

Sabre Tooth

same

Zach Saucier

I feel like it's the same as the blood on clothes questions though

michaelpri

@ZachSaucier Just a lot funnier to read

Zach Saucier

it's not funny to me, just nasty to think about

I am unsure about the downvotes though

Sabre Tooth

12:12 AM

@ZachSaucier don't think about it!!! go to the happy place... (a different happy place than where the OP was)

J. Musser

@SabreTooth That would be from a voting irregularity, such as another user (usually with the same address) voting up everything this user does. In these cases, the voting is reversed when the user is removed.

Zach Saucier

lol

darthnesscoveredthesky

@ZachSaucier Agreed. Maybe a clothes stain removal question should be asked to close the other ones and stop "things' like this from happening :(

Zach Saucier

did the guy with the most edits remove his account?

J. Musser

@ZachSaucier Who was that?

Zach Saucier

12:14 AM

@darthnesscoveredthesky it's different than the blood questions, a canonical wouldn't cover it

@J.Musser I don't remember the exact name... let me look

darthnesscoveredthesky

@ZachSaucier No, I don't think so.

Zach Saucier

oh, nevermind

was looking at the wrong tab

darthnesscoveredthesky

@ZachSaucier So it stays, yay :(

Why is the rep for the public beta still weird, I thought it got reset, but I have all kind of privileges I should not have?

J. Musser

@darthnesscoveredthesky Such as?

michaelpri

@darthnesscoveredthesky What privileges shouldn't you have?

J. Musser

12:23 AM

lol

darthnesscoveredthesky

@michaelpri The next priv is at 3500 lifehacks.stackexchange.com/help/privileges Go to a site that that has graduated and their's will be different.

J. Musser

@darthnesscoveredthesky Well that's how it should be.

Public betas have different privilege requirements than graduated sites.

darthnesscoveredthesky

@J.Musser You really shouldn't talk to me if I'm not nice :/ No offence. But I thought that had changed after private beta.

J. Musser

Private betas are at one level (1k for all privs), public betas are at the next (4k for all privs), and graduated sites are the hardest, at 20k for all privs.

@darthnesscoveredthesky Oh, well you can be nice.

darthnesscoveredthesky

@J.Musser I don't mean to mean, really. I apologize for all insults I gave, Cheerio :)

@J.Musser Trusted user was 2k in private beta

J. Musser

12:33 AM

np, you can't harm me, random internet person. >:D

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@darthnesscoveredthesky Oh yeah.

Well anyway, looks like status-bydesign

darthnesscoveredthesky

@J.Musser There are things called internet stalkers that go on sites, gather your information and attack you. That is why I am so careful, America is really dangerous :(

@J.Musser The tag is very empty.

J. Musser

@darthnesscoveredthesky Yes, well my point is, no one on this site will offend me, even if they get really rude.

@darthnesscoveredthesky oops, linked to main

darthnesscoveredthesky

@J.Musser Oh dear, am I really rude? :(

J. Musser

No, annoying at times though, to be honest.

darthnesscoveredthesky

@J.Musser Oh dear, I will change. No wonder nobody likes me. I really didn't know :(

J. Musser

12:38 AM

....

darthnesscoveredthesky

The only question in status-bydesign is meta.lifehacks.stackexchange.com/questions/70/bug-in-vote-count IDK what's going on?

What does everybody think about this answer lifehacks.stackexchange.com/questions/2277/… I thought it was OK, but could it cause some problems?

J. Musser

@darthnesscoveredthesky You know you can change your name every day if you want?

darthnesscoveredthesky

@J.Musser I didn't know that. Are you trying to get me banned? :)

J. Musser

@darthnesscoveredthesky It means that the reported bug was actually not a bug, but was an intended site feature.

@darthnesscoveredthesky It won't get you banned.

There's a workaround on the 30 day name-change thing.

darthnesscoveredthesky

@J.Musser Oh, now that makes sense :)

@J.Musser What does that means?

@J.Musser Is there some writing on this?

Did anyone know that if you get temporarily suspended you get reset to 1 rep, is this permanent and can regular moderators do this or only staff moderators?

J. Musser

12:51 AM

@darthnesscoveredthesky It's not a reset. You go back once the suspension is over.

Yes, regular mods can suspend a user.

They cannot delete/merge accounts though.

darthnesscoveredthesky

@J.Musser Oh no, what are suspension reasons? I don't want to be suspended :(

J. Musser

@darthnesscoveredthesky You have to be very bad.

Moderators can also see the private section in your profile iirc

Because one got my email.

darthnesscoveredthesky

@J.Musser Ok, I am very good from this day to forever :) I will never be banned. Do you get banned on all sites and does the length vary?

J. Musser

@darthnesscoveredthesky No, you are only suspended on that site. The length varies from days to years.

darthnesscoveredthesky

@J.Musser Oh, better go fix that so no one knows the non-fake me ;-)

@J.Musser One user got banned for some months, IDK what he did? He was very bad, obviously :)

J. Musser

12:58 AM

doesn't matter

Here are some reasons I suppose:

Creating a spam user

Sock-puppet user

Repeated abusive/offensive comments

Linking to hacking/warez/illegal websites

Abusing editing privileges

Conspicuous tag abuse

darthnesscoveredthesky

@J.Musser BTW who decides the length of punishment?

J. Musser

@darthnesscoveredthesky The moderator can.

darthnesscoveredthesky

@J.Musser The user appear to be doing some of the stuff above, but mostly adding fake questions.

@J.Musser I better be good, otherwise I will be banned forever :)

J. Musser

@darthnesscoveredthesky banning is different than suspensions.

darthnesscoveredthesky

How do you link to a question?

J. Musser

1:02 AM

@darthnesscoveredthesky In chat?

darthnesscoveredthesky

@J.Musser How? You can no longer use the site, sounds the same to me!

J. Musser

Copy the link address, and paste in here.

darthnesscoveredthesky

@J.Musser I meant to a answer, and not in chat?

Can remove my e-mail from my profile, I want noone to see it?

J. Musser

@darthnesscoveredthesky Copy the answer link address, and paste it.

@darthnesscoveredthesky No one will use it unless you are very bad.

darthnesscoveredthesky

@J.Musser Where is the link address, I cannot find it?

J. Musser

1:07 AM

@darthnesscoveredthesky What answer?

darthnesscoveredthesky

@J.Musser meta.lifehacks.stackexchange.com/questions/1124/… The upvoted answer from this.

J. Musser

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A: How do we define what is on-topic without requiring the questioner to know the answer to their question?

The problem we have here is that we don't want to rule out questions that fit in other sites because we want to provide "lifehack" answers instead of the standard answers they would get there. I feel like any question can be on topic as long as the questioner has done this: Clearly state the p...

There's the link^^

darthnesscoveredthesky

@J.Musser That isn't true, can't mods just pop in and see?

@J.Musser But how to create it?

1 min ago, by J. Musser

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A: How do we define what is on-topic without requiring the questioner to know the answer to their question?

The problem we have here is that we don't want to rule out questions that fit in other sites because we want to provide "lifehack" answers instead of the standard answers they would get there. I feel like any question can be on topic as long as the questioner has done this: Clearly state the p...

J. Musser

@darthnesscoveredthesky yeah, but they will not use it without good reason or they will get in big trouble.

darthnesscoveredthesky

@J.Musser I just learned thank you :)

@J.Musser But they know it, they can hack me and begin the stalking. Very scary :(

J. Musser

1:11 AM

@darthnesscoveredthesky I clicked on the 'edited' link to view the post timeline, then clicked 'return to answer'

@darthnesscoveredthesky Hahaha! you're more paranoid than even I am.

brb

darthnesscoveredthesky

@J.Musser Have a Good Bye!

Is this question ok, since it states vinegar and baking soda lifehacks.stackexchange.com/questions/2280/…

J. Musser

@darthnesscoveredthesky It wasn't clear, but I'm gonna edit

darthnesscoveredthesky

@J.Musser That will help a lot.

@J.Musser So you think it is a viable question.

J. Musser

@darthnesscoveredthesky yeah.

@darthnesscoveredthesky edited

Haha Shog changed his name.

darthnesscoveredthesky

1:31 AM

@J.Musser Seems good, but do you think the question will breed really long answers, my answer is long :(

@J.Musser You can't change you name on wikihow unless you ask a admin.

J. Musser

@darthnesscoveredthesky Long answers can be good.

darthnesscoveredthesky

@J.Musser Where?

J. Musser

@darthnesscoveredthesky where they are necessary, and a short answer does not cover the question sufficiently.

darthnesscoveredthesky

@J.Musser Ok, but the question was closed.

J. Musser

By Shog.

Prolly cause the person needs an organic shampoo, not a lifehack

darthnesscoveredthesky

1:37 AM

@J.Musser I think because the chemical statement

@J.Musser IDK, alternatives for organic shampoo are a lifehack, unless you want to buy them.

J. Musser

@darthnesscoveredthesky 'I don't have shampoo - I react to chemicals in most cleansers, What can I wash myself with' is better

darthnesscoveredthesky

@J.Musser You'd have to define " chemicals".

I think that the question can be fixed by simply removing chemicals and adding non-sulfate shampoos.

TheIdiotGamer

7:02 PM

Is there anyone here?

darthnesscoveredthesky

7:54 PM

Hello Everybody! I have a proposal!

We should make challenges for the site! Who agrees?

Sabre Tooth

8:41 PM

no

darthnesscoveredthesky

@SabreTooth You don't agree?

Does saying what you heard of, count for what was tried?

Sabre Tooth

9:47 PM

@darthnesscoveredthesky I was saying 'no' in regards to your challenges idea

apaul34208

10:34 PM

@darthnesscoveredthesky What do you mean by "challenges"?

J. Musser

U'm back

*I'm

J. Musser

10:57 PM

@darthnesscoveredthesky Why?

darthnesscoveredthesky

Challenges like on other sites kind of like this meta.stackexchange.com/questions/240634/…

J. Musser

I've done a few of those.

This site is too new tho imo

I'd wait a year or two

darthnesscoveredthesky

That's really long, thanks for the input

J. Musser

Is it?

No it's not.

It's only a year or two...

darthnesscoveredthesky

Did I have the right response in this post? Input please? lifehacks.stackexchange.com/questions/2277/…

J. Musser

11:06 PM

I see.

darthnesscoveredthesky

@J.Musser That's long.

J. Musser

If he couldn't find/think of a hack, why did he even answer?

@darthnesscoveredthesky Uh, no

darthnesscoveredthesky

@J.Musser That's 2 years

J. Musser

or 1

not really a lot of time.

I mean, we could do one sooner, but I wanna see us be stable for a long time first.

Sabre Tooth

agrees with the tree

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darthnesscoveredthesky

11:09 PM

@J.Musser Agreed.

J. Musser

good.

darthnesscoveredthesky

@J.Musser Becuz there was no answer? Did I direct him good enough.?

Sabre Tooth

was talking about LH.SE with the folks at Physics.SE a little while ago

J. Musser

@darthnesscoveredthesky If you don't have an answer, that doesn't give a good reason to answer, just cause the question's unanswered.

@SabreTooth Ah?

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Q: Gardening & Landscaping: Weekly Topic Challenge

Jon Ericson has come up with a wonderful way to boost the amount of questions on the site, and promote activity in topics that may otherwise receive only minimal attention. And it will be a lot of fun. Here's how it works: Suggest topics in the answers below. Next monday, I (or a volunteer) wil...

@darthnesscoveredthesky^^

My GL one

Sabre Tooth

@J.Musser there are a couple of us who may see LH as a way to ask how to do/hack experimental physics problems

J. Musser

11:14 PM

@SabreTooth ic

@SabreTooth Just went through the transcript

Shokhet

11:37 PM

@darthnesscoveredthesky Just wondering....I apologize if asking that annoyed you.

J. Musser

The Shok is back

hi

Shokhet

Hello @J.Musser.

I like your hat ;-)

J. Musser

You should change your name to Shok9

@Shokhet Thanks

Shokhet

@J.Musser :P

J. Musser

Or Shoq9

Shokhet

11:39 PM

@J.Musser You got it for that Socratic badge you were bragging about in here earlier?

J. Musser

@Shokhet Didn't get the socratic yet. The sede query was wrong.

And my hat's better than yours.

Shokhet

@J.Musser That's much closer; unfortunately, both are incorrect transliterations: it should really either be "shochet" or "shohet," depending on how correct you want to be.

@J.Musser Oh well.

@J.Musser I got Copy Editor on Mi Yodeya :)

J. Musser

@Shokhet Nice! I only have that badge on 1 site.

Shokhet

@J.Musser Same.

That's my third gold badge, network wide

J. Musser

Now I have done 874 edits on GL

@Shokhet Nice!

I think I have ten.

I don't remember

Shokhet

11:42 PM

Check your network wide flair

I keep mine on my MSE profile

J. Musser

There it is...

yeah 10

@Shokhet Do you play chess?

Shokhet

@J.Musser I used to; I haven't in a very long time.

.....oddly enough, I said the same thing to a friend two days ago. Have you been stalking me?? :P

J. Musser

Just wondered if you'd beat me.

Shokhet

......I might; depends on how fast I get back into it

J. Musser

I'm awful at it btw

Shokhet

11:46 PM

.....also depends on how good you are :P

Did you start playing recently?

J. Musser

No. I've played since I was little

But I'm no good anyway.

Shokhet

I see.

What made you think of that, now?

J. Musser

Oh. Cause I play chess with other SE folks, mostly on MSE

Shokhet

MSE has a chess thing?

J. Musser

Only once did I beat Unihedron

@Shokhet No we played on a chess site

Shokhet

11:51 PM

I mean, we also have

@J.Musser Ah. I've never played a chess game over the internet.

J. Musser

@Shokhet I know one of the mods there

Shokhet

@Shokhet I only recently discovered (in this room!) that SE sites onebox

@J.Musser Cool.

.....I know (personally) two people on SE; the one who told me about it, and one who I told about it :P

.....I'm currently working on a Mi Yodeya question about the hat I'm wearing....I can't find good information on the length and weight of a cutlass -- I'm getting too much information about cars :P

J. Musser

lol

chess.com/members/view/J-Musser

That's me^^

see how awful I am

Shokhet

I see....I don't know how to tell ratings on chess.com

....funny, the guy I was talking about chess last week also uses chess.com :P

J. Musser

@Shokhet over 2000 is pretty good.

Under 1000 is pretty bad

@Shokhet Is he on SE?