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02:43
@curiousdannii All power comes from Motion (This is provable), if God is not motion then God is not all powerful. Yet God IS all powerful so he IS Motion.
Even Jesus agrees.
"God is Breath, and those who worship Him must worship in breath and truth." (John 4:24)
Breath is Motion.
The one who is agreeing with me is Jesus. It is easy, if you do not believe me, then you do not believe Jesus.
Here is a quote from St. John
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." (John 1 :1 NKJV)
Words move. We even know how fast - Ref: Speed of Sound (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_of_sound)
We even know what a word that is spoken in breath is made out of: Vibrations.
The Universe is made out of Vibrations. Coincidence?
"All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made." (John 1:3 NKJV)
Also here is logic: The Lord willed the Universe into creation. His name reflects "his will" and what "he has done".
And you tell me that I'm the one that cannot see.
Congratulations you found the speck in my eye, the error you can not see beyond.
Why is it so hard to tell people that Jesus comes out of their mouth? They need proof, yet most people know that people speak.
It really is all how you decide to look at it. A man can find error in about anything.
You think it is a perfect bank? It makes a poor McDonald's. Congratulations for looking for the errors all the time and always missing the part that males sense.
I feel bad for you, you probably get picked apart by the people who know you all the time, for that is the opposite and equal reaction.
Do you need some pride? Hey you know word structure great!
So what?
If you can not understand the Law, you will never be able to live the law. And not living the Law is death.
I am a man of error, yet that does not mean that all i say is of error.
The blind man can not see the truth within the weeds.
It is like a pearl of great value within an entire garden of weeds!
Yet if you search only for weeds, you will never find the pearl Selah
03:08
@Onlyheisgood. It's been a long time since I've seen you say anything that wasn't an error. You need to learn to read Greek and Hebrew if you're going to keep going on about this stuff
@Onlyheisgood. Words only move at the speed of sound? What about the speed of electrons across the internet?
@Onlyheisgood. Please prove it.
@curiousdannii If you want proof, say what will happen and believe it will happen. Then you will see.
And when you learn how much power you have, then the fear will rest on you in the realization that all men have this power.
@curiousdannii Or in a vacuum?
Or via sign language?
Or reading text?
And so on.
@Onlyheisgood. Is God a person or an impersonal force?
I'm trying to understand your views on this topic.
The concept is explained as "Spoken words in breath" therefore the measurement goes to the explanation.
@fredsbend Both.
Think of the phrase "A saying existed"
Did existence say this saying?
Was it also a person?
Here is the science that helps to understand.
The wave layer and the object layer.
Because of the misunderstanding to the word spirit, it is little known that the wave layer is the spirit layer.
Since it is the wave layer that forms the object layer.
And this is proven with quantum physics.
Having control over waves, gives much control over the object layer.
Does this make sense to you?
Existence is the combination of the wave layer and the object layer.
The wave layer is formed from the collective sounds of Existence.
04:18
@Onlyheisgood. I am educated in Mathematics and I have been studying quantum mechanics for many years. Quantum mechanics most certainly is not how you've described here. It is a theory that describes physical systems in terms of their stationary states, which are represented as vectors in an abstract vector space. The wave functions described by quantum mechanics are no less physical than their analogous classical counterparts, and in no way refer to a spiritual realm. Sorry.
 
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09:03
@Andrew Luckily studies in frequency back me up.
Frequency can be divided into two main categories. Frequency that goes through matter, and frequency that does not.
The hearing range is commonly given as 20 to 20,000 Hz. (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hearing_range)
The frequency of visible light is referred to as color, and ranges from 430 trillion hertz, seen as red, to 750 trillion hertz (science.howstuffworks.com/light4.htm)
The typical order of the atomic vibrations frequencies is 10(13) Hz, and that of the amplitudes is 10(−11) m. (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atom_vibrations)
The (13) is to the 13th power, sorry don't know how to superscript in chat here. Same with the (-11)
What we can see is a progression of vibrational frequency increasing from that of sound to that of matter.
And although all of the Universe is made of vibration. Making the entire Universe technically in the Wave layer.
A huge separation in frequency occurs between that of sound and that of matter.
Therefore when I reference the object layer I mean trillions of hertz.
10,000,000,000,000 Hz (Atomic Vibrations)
430,000,000,000,000 Hz (Color Red)
750,000,000,000,000 Hz (Color Violet)
So I want you to picture a calm water.
Then picture the surface after a handful of small pebbles are thrown into the water.
The surface of the water has many ripples that interweave causing an active vibration.
Now picture a large stone being thrown into the water. The power of the big wave overwhelms the smaller multiple vibrations.
This is the power of slower stronger frequencies on a multiple frequency system.
The power of the voice over matter.
This helps you understand the name (יהוה) Will be (אֱלֹהִים) objects.
And how the Words of Existence made matter.
10:37
@Andrew Here is another source in Physics that backs me up.
The distance of the Electron from the Proton can be mathematically figured by its wave distance. (gcisd-k12.org/cms/lib4/TX01000829/Centricity/Domain/3370/…)
Better references can be found, I'm being lazy at the moment.
Here is another one: Try flattening out a sheet on your bed. Then towards the middle put your hand down and make a fist bunching together some of the sheet. Then give it a bit of a twist. The result? A likeness of an image of a Galaxy (google.com/…)
Here is another one: The orbit of the planets around the sun also in place by a wave (abyss.uoregon.edu/~js/images/voy_traj.jpg)
I find it interesting the similarities between the wave structure of the planets comparing to the wave structure of the atom.
Then you can see a planet as an accumulation of a metaphorical set of electrons forming a mass. And you get the same pattern.
When seeing the solar system as an enlarged atom looking system.
 
10 hours later…
20:53
@Onlyheisgood. I'm sorry but your physics is about 100 years behind the curve
We now know that the electrons don't orbit in an atom
they exist in different quantum states, which we still call "shells" and "subshells", thought they are not physical layers as the name suggests
But they interact as "wavefunctions". This is an abstract concept and the wavefunctions determine the physical properties of the particle.
The wave functions are vectors in an abstract vector space called a Hilbert space.
But the only reason I'm saying this is to demonstrate that QUANTUM MECHANICS DESCRIBES CREATION, NOT THE CREATOR.
if you hold to pantheism, as your previous comments suggest, then we can not have a discussion about God, because when I say "God" I mean something different than you do when you say "God."
The universe is so vast and great that, one might say "if the universe had consciousness it would be God." But this is stupid. If the universe had consciousness, it might be so much greater than ours that it would be "like God" to us, with control and knowledge that we can not fathom.
but how is that different than any other hyper-intelligent organism, or angel
More than one character in the bible saw an angel and fell to worship it, because the angel was so glorious, having been in the presence of God, that it was not unreasonable to conclude "this being is divine"
but just because something appears to be divine, or is of divine appearance or unfashionable magnitude, does not make it God.
God told us who he is
and so if you're going to discuss the God of the bible, why bother arguing that he has any other characteristics than the ones he has told us he has?
You can't just be so awestruck by the cosmos and by human creativity that you say "this is God". That's stupid. We know who he is, because he told us.
If you find the god of the bible boring, then find a new god that suits you, worship him instead, and be damned. Don't claim you're talking about the God of the Bible. You're not. You're talking about a fabrication of the human imagination.
 
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22:57
@Andrew Why are you so confident that you got it right? I understand why you think Only has it wrong, but such confidence in your own belief, I find, well, unbelievable.

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