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10:44
given the seeming likelihood of challenge questions being disallowed, I wanted to centralize discussions on other potential venues to do so
Hi
Hi.
i actually have to go, but i look forward to seeing what you all come up with!
Okay
Is there any existing system in which we can post challenge questions (puzzles and riddles)?
10:51
In the Riddler's Den there was some messages about "going to a sanctuary". There is an e-mail there.
Yes
If nobody comes up with a satisfactory site for us, I am seriously thinking about creating one.
I too have seen some messages by cop, avigril and rand regarding cyanide.net
But I am not sure whether it's open for all.
If it is we can try that
if there is no other site I am willing to provide any help in developing a new one
@AeJey, send me an e-mail. It is my user's profile.
okay
10:55
Just to be sure that we do not lose contact if we really will need to create the site ourselves.
If the site already exists and is satisfactory, ok, we'll go there then.
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I've just created a site at
register and I'll mod you up.
might only be temporary, we might find somewhere better already exists. that would be fine.
okay
@Victor: I have sent a mail to you. :)
@AE: I am trying to signup. Haven't receieved the verification mail yet
@AE Me too, haven't received the verification mail yet.
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I've just authorised your accounts from the control panel.
I'm not sure it can actually send out the emails yet, I haven't configured the email setup.
We still can login
I have logged in without confirming mail
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11:03
yup, I just authed you.
:)
Joe
Joe
Just signed up :-)
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cool
Just signed up too. :)
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:)
11:08
I think I need some time to understand how it works
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I think I do too! :)
It will be good if we can create a site with coordino.com
It's almost similar to SE
Or something else that works just like SE
(i put up a post on the meta thread advertising this room)
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A: Puzzling.SE: Where We Hate Fun - It's time to disallow challenge questions

xnorLet's take challenges somewhere else Many on the site enjoy solving and posing puzzles as challenges, and for some, it's the only reason they're here. A puzzle-solving community has started to grow, and it would be sad to lose that. And some have bemoaned that if this isn't the place to post puz...

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@AeJey sure, that would be fine with me. we don't have to stick with what I've put up already. do go ahead and create something else if you like
Okay. We can stick with the one you created for now until get a better option.
I am still going through it.
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Joe
11:15
Cheers for the en-mod :-)
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hey @victor, you got firsties! :)
@AE Yeah!
:)
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@AeJey yeah it can just be temporary if we find something more suitable
Is there any option to comment?
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11:18
I'm not sure. :)
To discuss about the question?
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I think you can just 'reply'
okay
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Discourse
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11:25
It's stopped loading for me :P
For me too
For me too. ²
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yeah. it's a very small instance and we've overloaded it by all creating accounts at the same time.
wait 5 mins and I'll upgrade it.
thanks AE.
:)
11:26
the sanctuary mentioned in the Riddlers Den is meant for Riddles only
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teething problems. ;)
it looks like they'll be losing pretty much all of us...
it's been a pleasure :D
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I just think it's dumb, tbh
Kinda sounds like Emrakul just wants to be a mod on an active puzzling board from his comments on my answer to the "No Fun" meta topic
I noticed your answer to the meta q... it may reopen the debate really
please don't discuss this here
this should be about a new place to have the community
11:31
bye :D
Joe
Joe
Who created the Discourse board?
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@Joe me
I'm just waiting for it to reboot on a larger instance.
then we'll be go again.
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Joe
Do you want a domain to sit it on?
:)
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If you can get a domain on the free AWS package
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11:33
@Joe yeah, I can get it a domain if we want one.
I'm not sure if we'll actually want to stay on the Discourse platform necessarily.
If people want to do something different then what's there now can just be a temporary place to plan that more permanent thing.
ok, it moved domain/IP when I rebooted it. Can now be found at:
ec2-54-74-125-179.eu-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com
Joe
Joe
Just my site isn't used for anything at all other than my emails, so if you want to sit it on there I don't mind
I can purchase a domain for you if you need (.com)
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Joe
Tbh, xyz domains are 99p at the moment
puzzlers.xyz is available :P
or puzzling.xyz
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grab it if you like
:)
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Joe
11:38
sure
Let's confirm which the domain should be
Joe
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puzzling.xyz i think is better, because it doesn't sound like "puzzles.xyz"
Yes/no? @Ae
Also @AeJey
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I don't mind
For me, whatever works for now. May change the domain later if really needed.
puzzling.xyz
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11:43
sure
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OK, puzzling.xyz purchased
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@Victor: By the way, did you check my answer?
great :)
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@AE what do you need from me to get the site sitting on the domain? :-)
@AeJey To the e-mail? If is that, I replied.
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@Joe I'm just getting us a fixed IP address.
54.75.247.144
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11:46
Okie dokey
Is it dead again while it moves to a fixed IP? :P
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possibly. :)
it's working now on 54.75.247.144
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^_^
ah, a static ip
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yup
:( it's blocked here
in my office
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@AeJey try 54.75.247.144
11:49
Yes
But accessing static IP is blocked here
in my office
Joe
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OK, @AE I'm setting up the domain correctly - if you want to set up Bitnami we'll get that going :-)
I will log back in to it once I reach home
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@Joe what do I need to do with bitnami?
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it's a bitnami image but it's running on ec2
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11:51
You just need section 3
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probly no need.
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Is it running as an application?
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it's running on its own virtual machine at Amaozn
Amazon
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OK
It'll probably just start working on puzzling.xyz shortly then
Will take a little while for the domain to propagate
*DNS
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yeah, give it a few hours
11:55
:)
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feel free to mess about with the setup e.g. give it a logo and whatever
should be able to do that from within discource
Hi, just joined. I'm a bit short on time, but I'm interested in what's going on. So count me in a "silent listener" for the moment.
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se
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Created Puzzles and Puzzles>Riddles categories
Just basics, can be changed easily later on
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cool
I'm trying to work out how to switch off the email confirmation of new accounts
11:58
Hmm, is it a good idea to do that A E ?
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can always switch it on again later.
One thing I like about SO is that spamming isn't really a problem...
OK, if it is only to smooth transition, I'm okay with it.
@Victor: My answer to your question on the new platform :)
@AeJey Oh, the platform was offline for me during some minutes. Something like 5 minutes ago, I saw your answer and it is correct! I posted another answer saying it is correct, because it seems that there is no way to accept an answer nor to post comments.
Which link for the new platform?
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12:00
@BmyGuest 54.75.247.144
@Victor: I can't access it since it is now running in static IP. Will get back in it within a few hours
Is it supposed to work with google already? (signup) It doesn't for me.
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@Victor We may want to switch to something more Q-and-A style, as AeJay suggested above.
@BmyGuest I've switched off the Google signup for the moment then. :)
@AE
@AE Okay, I'll try later. (Not really having the time at the moment for longer testing.)
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@AeJey I'm surprised you can't get it. Try again for me? 54.75.247.144
12:04
@AE I already started to work with java. Let's see if I can create something cool. Once I have a few things working, I will invite people to SVN, Github, Googlecode or whatever it ends up to.
@AE: It's not like that. Here in our office accessing static IP's and some other sites are blocked with Fortiguard Web Filtering System
So it's the problem in my side
Hello?
Victor asked me to come here?
I got 1 minute what do you want..?
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@AeJey most websites are on static IPs. honestly. if you were completely barred from visiting anything with a static IP then no website would work.
@AeJey Try to access puzzling.xyz
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@warspyking A New Hope: 54.75.247.144
12:08
@warspyking Basically the mods decided to blow up the site. We are running for our lifes!
@A E What about it/
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or puzzling.xyz which now seems to be working.
Web Page Blocked!

You have tried to access a web page which is in violation of your internet usage policy.

URL: 54.75.247.144/
Category: Unrated
What do you mean blow it up?
I g2g...
@warspyking See this:
http://meta.puzzling.stackexchange.com/questions/1601/puzzling-se-where-we-hate-fun-its-time-to-disallow-challenge-questions
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12:09
@AeJey oh, weird. maybe they just block discussion fora.
I g2g, I'll check it out, see-ya
may be
will try accessing with my mobile
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possibly this specific IP address was previously used for something porny. If so then we can switch to a different one quite easily if need be.
don't worry. It will be fine.
I can access it from my phone
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ok cool
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Joe
12:14
:D
its down :'(
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works for me
Joe
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It's back
I think we should get a hosting too
Joe
Joe
$35 for a year's hosting is more than i'd like to pay
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we do have hosting. :)
although right now I'm paying for it. :(
12:23
I can afford purchasing a hosting plan of 5gb space and 20gb bandwidth if it's sufficient for now.
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If we go with a host which can run Python, OSQA looks like a nice format. Blatant SO ripoff :P
if you want let e know, I will purchase one and share the details
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for PHP, Question2Answer looks fine too
I think osqa is better
Looks like it's an exact clone of SE
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Joe
I'm a PHP developer; if we go with a PHP system and we need tweaks, I should be able to find time for little things
I can look into learning Python if we go OSQA though
It's not massively different
12:26
:)
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Joe
(As in my day job :P)
I am also a php developer :P
That's why I suggested coordino and question2answer
;)
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Heh. How about we go with Q2A and if you fancy, we could collab to write our own platform? Could be quite fun :P
Sounds awesome ;)
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something off-the-shelf that we can tweak = get started quicker
12:29
But. Q2A is not updated for long I think
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Aye, that's why I'd say go with Q2A or something for now
It still using mysql_connect and throws many warnings
Joe
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THe Coordino site has PHP errors on it ;-)
When I tried it in my local machine few months ago
I haven't tried coordino :P
luckily Q2A don't have errors
only warnings :P
Joe
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How about Pligg?
Tbh, anything that doesn't die horribly will do to get up and running :P
12:32
I think it's not exactly similar to SE
have you tried qwench
I have tried that one too long ago
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tWhatever, they're all the same :P
I can't afford hosting, so whoever gets the hosting can choose which SO clone we start with xD
As I said I can afford a hosting with 5gb space and 20gb bandwidth
If it's okay for now, I can purchase it and will send you the details
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$/yr?
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suggest you guys copy those ideas to puzzling.xyz/t/…
It's about $10/yr
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12:36
That's pretty damn cheap :P
It's here in India :P
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That's why then :P
If you wanna get an OS Q&A site put up on a host, I can update the DNS for the domain any time
I've posted on the topic
I can get a godaddy host of 30 gb space if we can wait till next month.
I am on a tight budget now :(
Joe
Joe
Tbh
I can just put it on a subdomain of my own personal domain then point the domain at it
That probably makes the most sense
I'm already paying for the hosting
Ok
I will get the Godaddy hosting next month then :)
Joe
Joe
12:43
No rush on that tbh - we can just see if my hosting can support it. If it can, I don't mind running it off my hosting
Like I said earlier, I don't have anything but my emails on there
Ok
room topic changed to Another home for challenges: puzzling.xyz | Discussion about creating or moving to a different venue to pose and solve puzzles (no tags)
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13:07
Who's still here? :-)
me ;)
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I'll point the domain to it later
Great :)
I was going through OSQA and I liked it
It has badge system too just like the SE
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Runs on Python though
yes
I am not familiar with python :(
I tried coordino
It's having issues when not installed in root folder
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13:11
If you want to sign up on Q2A I'll mod you up
@Joe I signed up.
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There you go :)
Let me sign up :)
Hey @Joe, can I have your e-mail?
13:14
signed up
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Modded
Here's the points setup for now: cl.ly/image/3k0J0L3b3A3S/…
:)
Joe
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I've tried to mostly replicate the SO system, but reward questions a little more
That's just an initial setup though
I'll be back in 30 mins
Going on my lunch :P
Ok
Sure
I too will be leaving soon.
Hi, I tried to sign up. Seems I'm not getting the verification request email though.
Joe
Joe
13:25
Hm. Try logging in anyway?
Not sure if verification emails are necessary
verification emails are not necessary
I received the mails after few minutes
Joe
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Are you BePuzzling?
if so, your account is on there
Discourse (via the puzzling.xyz domain.) Just successfully signed up at puzzling.joechilds.co.uk though
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Ah OK
I didn't get the verification either, just logged in fine
(For Discourse)
Hm, can't log in. (Still pops up with "resent verification" email requests.)
13:27
anonymous user can post answer. I answered your question from mobile
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Just seen that. DIsabled it
I forgot I am not logged in
:P
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Deleted your anon reply :P
A postal stamp. It will be pasted on the corner of mails and letters. And will travel along with the post from the posted location to the location of receiver (literally around the world)
Just in case you want to copy/paste the text when you're logged in, @AeJey
BTW, thanks for moving fast on this. (Nearly too fast for me to catch up.)
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No worries, getting a replacement Q&A up ASAP is important I think, else people will just disappear
13:29
:)
I just redited it
Bye for now
Will be back later
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Cya for now
the riddlers all have access and interest in what you guys are doing :)
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Riddles are ON TOPIC on the new puzzling site
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:-)
I just came back to star that :D
Would I put my foot into D...S... if I'd say I don't like riddles? ? ;c)
13:42
Hello!
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@BmyGuest no, you're welcome to ignore them :P I personally don't really do riddles, but I think they definitely fit on a puzzle site
And @No.7892142 hi
@Joe me to, I was just kidding. But I think one "success" of our new site would be to have some easy way of navigating, i.e. if there are 1000 riddles and 1 puzzle a day, and I'm not interested in riddles, there should be a convenient way of not being washed away by the riddle-flood. Also: I think we should make it clear that the site is for English communication and that puzzles/riddles deviated from it may do so, but should declare it upfront. In particular riddles.
Hi #
Is it okay that I call you by your first name, # ? ;c)
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I think so long as we enforce good tagging that should be fine
@Joe depends a bit on the system we are using. It would be nice to get a "clean" picture of things without having to "filter" upfront. Do you think some "major" categories with auto-collapsing new entries would be feasible ?
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How do you mean?
13:54
I really don't have the ideal solution for this puzzle yet...
Some mechanism, that if I go to the site and since last login there where 100 riddles and 1 puzzle, I have a chance of seeing at a glance that a new puzzle has been added. (i.e. it is not lost in 100 riddles)
Shit, man. When you get to the point of splitting comments into 3 parts, something went wrong.
Maybe a "news-line" which indicates for each major tag which appeared since last login, how often it has appeared since last login?
# You're right ;c)
(Sorry)
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See the latest tweak
sidebar
also @BmyGuest, "Numbers" is fine.
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That's @BmyGuest btw :)
13:58
That's about it anyway, everything has been said, anything else would be regurgitating things.
@Joe posted a new question on your site.
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@No.7892142 where is the 3-part comment?
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