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2:43 AM

@Tyyppi_77 I have this for now:

"player selection screen": Odd that the player avatar does not animate at the same pace the button does (the scaling effect)
(During the intro) dialogs go on on the alt key. can't alt-tab to go to windows without missing something
I feel there are things missing from the introduction level: what are the little things that go from the enemy to the player? What's the purpose of the white gauge at the bottom of the UI?

Editor:
Size sliders go beyond the bar
shift: only left shift works for selection placement

I haven't had a chance to test the game before today, and it's hard and fun!

You've done great work there!

The first few levels seemed stable, and I haven't had a chance to thoroughly test the editor.

7 hours later…

user92578

9:43 AM

@AlexandreVaillancourt Much appreciated, thanks for taking the time!

user92578

Good points about the gameplay stuff, little things and white gauge are both for the shield, those aren't really explained in the introduction level (shield is but not the shield points); they aren't super important though, one should be able to figure out relatively quickly that when using the shield, the white bar drops

user92578

But I'll consider improving the introduction level some day

user92578

The -0+ is used to select variation values, and elements with * support variation values

user92578

This is explained in the guide which I have yet to publish, sorry about that

user92578

I will make the slider bar a little wider and close the drop downs correctly, implement proper dialog escaping and fix the shift thing

Sie

1:06 PM

3 hours later…

Gustavo Maciel

4:29 PM

@AlexandreVaillancourt Wow! I still thought awesomium and chromium were the standards, thanks for the link!

2 hours later…

user92578

6:07 PM

Published a new build with changes from the feedback:
Level editor still starts with an empty level but buttons are disabled by default, improved the join menu, escape closes dialogs, improved slider visuals, alt-tab doesn't count as a key press in cutscenes, right shift works and the dropdowns correctly toggle

user92578

I did not figure out a way to display layer information though

cubesnyc

6:21 PM

Hi everyone

user92578

cubesnyc

Im new here. Currently working on my first game, a turn based card game, mostly to learn and become a better programmer.

I find myself constantly debating what the best methodology is to accomplish a certain task, and was hoping some of you guys could give me some solid advice.

user92578

Sure, just keep in mind that making mistakes is a great way to learn too

cubesnyc

exactly why im tryign to make this game

but sometimes i dont know, what i dont know

if you know what i mean haha

My first difficulty is that while I have a very good understanding of the domain, I am not quite sure how to model it in an OO way

What is the best way to solicit advice in this room?

should i provide uml charts ?

user92578

Just pose your question whatever way you feel fits

cubesnyc

6:37 PM

Ok so generally speaking I would like to create a card game platform. Users can connect to the platform, login, and can choose to join/play in games that are running, perhaps with some permission handling mixed somewhere in there, and some profile editing or specific platform functionality.

I thought it best to focus on the actual game first, since everything else seems pretty straightforward to me (clients login, send messages, messages get processed and dispatched appropriately to the various components), unless of course im missing something.

So for the game, since I want to support multiple game variants, I find myself in an endless debate on how to actually structure it. Because it is turn based, in the sense that the core game logic cannot continue until another player acts, I decided that the correct way to structure this would be to update the GameContext based on an IPlayerAction that it received from an interpreter that translates a network message into an IPlayerAction.

So my first question would be, does that sound correct?

user92578

first of all I want to mention that this sounds like a very ambitious project for one's first game

cubesnyc

well let me rephrase

its my first real game of any substance

user92578

an important distinction

cubesnyc

i have experience with simple ball bouncing games etc.

the kind you read in books

user92578

I haven't really done a lot of networking myself but it seems like you have stuff in place for that

user92578

6:42 PM

It's incredibly difficult trying to add networking to something that wasn't built with that in mind

cubesnyc

right

so thats one aspect

but the game state is relatively basic so I can't imagine its too hard

user92578

I'm not terribly experienced myself, weekends are quite quiet here [as are weeks too nowadays :(] so you might get better / more confident replies some other time

user92578

Yeah for a turn based game that should be doable, probably

cubesnyc

i thought the correct way to model the actual game would be with a state machine

but i find myself confused as to what the actual states should be

user92578

that would probably be game dependent

cubesnyc

6:48 PM

right

user92578

is it simply "play card"? or perhaps multiple different card selections: "random card from deck -> play money card to purchase card -> play action cards"

cubesnyc

so that is a very specific state

if i were to pick a card game like poker for example

the various stages of a poker hand would be posting blinds/betting/dealingflop/betting/dealingturn/betting/dealingriver/showdown

which is confusing to me because states like dealing flop have no input

So to solve that, i thought crafty way would be to have one Flop method and just deal the flop in the initialization fo that state

3 hours later…

Jimmy

10:03 PM

states don't need input

@cubesnyc when you're writing out a state machine, just as important as listing out the states is listing out the transitions between states

so you just say "how do I get from "Dealing Flop" to "betting"? If the answer is "when the cards have been picked and shown to all the players" then that's your transition "pick cards -> send card information to all players -> set state to "betting round 2"

Alexandre Vaillancourt

10:34 PM

@GustavoMaciel :) the new thing does not work with OpenGL yet though :(

@Tyyppi_77 Woa! the turnaround is fast :P

user92578

@AlexandreVaillancourt been few weeks since I've had stuff to program so I was super excited to do stuff

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