Game Development

Pip

21:00

answers.unity3d.com/questions/486449/…

Hjorthenify

@Jon That grid.. it it placed at random or does it have any origin?

Pip

Also, I just figured out why my thing wasn't working..... freaking integer division :/

@Jon fix'd

Have to zoom it out a bit more, but there we go. Progress.

Chris

yes, when dividing, gotta float

Pip

yeah

Chris

I gotta switch to a better webhost

asmallorange.com, images load so slowly, to the point that I've been using Amazon's S3 to host my gifs and stuff for my changelog announcements and whatnot

to the point that last month I spent $25 in bandwidth from S3 lol

and I'd rather switch to a better normal webhost, financially better really

Icy Defiance

21:09

well, to save on bandwidth, would webm be an improvement?

Chris

not in the Steam announcements

Icy Defiance

with few colors like your game art, I'm not sure if it would be or not, but it might be worth a try

Chris

[img] tag

Icy Defiance

ah okay. can't get around that.

Chris

and imgur I find has been unreliable lately

and a gif slightly bigger than 5 MB is over their limit

Pip

21:10

mhm

joapet99

:p

it has always worked for me

Pip

hey Mr. Golmer

Chris

I think arvixe.com/linux_web_hosting has been mentioned here a couple times

otherwise I might go back to dreamhost.com

@joapet99 yea I dunno! last few weeks, I swear things load slowly more often than not

Icy Defiance

yeah even without the size limit, imgur compresses the crap out of things, so I wouldn't use it for official announcements anyway

Chris

and I'd rather have reliable image loading than not

yeah

Jon

21:11

@Pip nice man

@Hjorthenify I set it at 0,0

Hjorthenify

So it builds around that?

Pip

thanks

Jon

Yeah, it takes the position, and width/height of the gameobject

and builds a grid based on this

inverting the y-axis

i really hate that about unity

Hjorthenify

Inverting the y-axis?

Jon

y-axis is inverted in unity

sucks when you try to map to an array

Hjorthenify

21:13

Oh right

Yeah that will be a problem.. sigh

Jon

I have Grid.WorldToGrid and Grid.GridToWorld static functinos

so you dno't have to think about it

Hjorthenify

Are those built-in?

Jon

no

Hjorthenify

Ah

Jon

even if i give you this code

you are gonna have to work with it

Hjorthenify

21:17

I know

Jon

give me a few days -- i'll write up a tutorial and put up the project

Hjorthenify

Alright

Almo

It's a Golmer Pile!!!

Jon

eh?

Almo

You know "Gomer Pyle" from Andy Griffiths?

Aidan Mueller

21:19

Jon

naw, i heard of it

but I never watched the bit

Almo

Golmers turned out to be boxes.

so... that's a Golmer pile.

Aidan Mueller

Gomer pyle.

Jon

funny if you get the ref

Almo

yeah, pretty obscure

I'm good at that.

Chris

21:20

fricking golmers

Jon

unity window spawned out of bounds

Aidan Mueller

Gomer Pyle USMC was a good show.

Jon

da heck..

Almo

apparently someone fixed the Restart raiding on stackegg

flag nothing and restart now take 200 rep on the site in question to vote for.

Chris

so it's still trollable

Pip

21:22

yep

Almo

yes, but not by absolutely everyone

Chris

my fav april fools joke this year so far is probably the binding of isaac one: bindingofisaac.com

Pip

I could troll on like 3 or 4 sites XD

Almo

I posted to facebook outlining my new boardgame design

My next boardgame design is a sequel to Monopoly. It will be tricky to talk to Hasbro, so I'll have to find a toy broker to make contact.

I'll keep the roll-and-move mechanic, and make official the house rules most people play with for Free Parking.

In the center of the board will be Wall Street, where players can invest their money hoping to make large returns; but the risk will be high.

I'll add a deck of cards, which will allow players to try to collect sets of collectibles (like Beanie Babies etc), which will be a great opportunity for product placement, which is how I will fund deve…

Pip

Aidan Mueller

21:24

Gomer pyle with a gomer on his head.

Pip

black is perlin, red is where mountains will go. Might have to adjust the threshold there

@Jon

Almo

People belived me. Which is not surprising. What did surprise me is that my wife called to warn me not to publicly show this concept before it's designed so it wouldn't get stolen. She didn't quite read it carefully enough to see that my design changes are things that I would personally never advocate.

plus I hate Monopoly.

Pip

lol

Almo

Only reason I have a copy is that I sort of inherited it from my second girlfriend (I've had 3 total)

Aidan Mueller

Who started the golmer business?

Pip

21:26

Joapet

joapet99

EHm

Chris

lol

Aidan Mueller

@joapet99 Golmer Pyle:

Almo

hahah good one Aidan

Jon

@Pip yeah that is much better

Pip

21:27

:D

Jon

although looks like larger maps

Pip

2 mins ago, by Pip

Almo

Joapet came in asking questions about programming, and his example class was Golmer.

Pip

I might have to clear the smaller patches out some

Aidan Mueller

I remember reading the log now.

Almo

21:27

we all wondered what the hell a Golmer was, and we found out later it was just a box.

Icy Defiance

@Chris mine is actually league of legends. an "ultra rapid fire" mode was demoed a while ago and people have been begging for it to return every since, so yesterday riot posted news about "new ultra rapid fire" that actually slowed everything down instead of speeding things up. people raged because they thought riot was mocking its users, then today they actually release the real URF mode.

so we actually got something good out of the whole joke

Pip

make min threshold 2 after putting the whole thing in a cellular automata map, that might fix it

going to go try that

Icy Defiance

also "new ultra rapid fire" is abbreviated as "NURF" which is punny

joapet99

Someone wondered what of the objects in the game was the golmer

He guessed the player

But... it was the blocks

Almo

but Ultra Rapid Fire is boring :(

joapet99

21:29

Star if you cry every time

Almo

I want the Snowdown Showdown back. That was good laning practice.

Chris

@IcyDefiance nice

Icy Defiance

personally I don't care about URF. it was just amusing watching people rage and then eat crow.

Almo

heehehe

Aidan Mueller

@joapet99 Having just read transcript, you actually made a variable for each golmer in the game. That's when you learned to use arrays. Hip hip array!

hiphip[]

joapet99

21:32

XD YEAH

Almo

hahahaha

Aidan Mueller

So is google a top level domain?

How would you get that to work?

I think that it should actually be moc.elgoog

Pip

lol

Chris

google.com/registry/faqs.html

even .YOUTUBE, and .PLUS, jeez

Icy Defiance

eh, youtube I get. plus seems...excessive. can't say I care though.

Pip

21:39

Looks soooo much better after a cull @Jon

those light tiles were culled from the red ones (which will be mountains shortly)

youtube.youtube here we come

Aidan Mueller

We are going to be seeing a bunch of joke urls like scary.boo, and restaurant.eat.

Pip

google.google

plus.google.plus

Chris

doubleplus.good

Aidan Mueller

multiply.divide.minus.plus

Pip

:D

Aidan Mueller

21:41

c.plus.plus

Pip

hahahaha can't wait for that one

Aidan Mueller

I once thought that it would be kind of cool if we could a DNS system for phone numbers.

Pip

I can see some..... uses for .tube

....

Aidan Mueller

toothpaste.tube :D

Icy Defiance

Pip

21:43

XD

Chris

that middle pic

ack, asmallorange is owned by EIG en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endurance_International_Group

and they also own Netfirms and Arvixe

Pip

lol

Chris

and my reddit-fu says stay away

Pip

:D

Jon

can't wait to see what you end up with

Icy Defiance

21:49

inb4 godaddy

at least I think they sell hosting plans, right?

Chris

yeah im not touching that

too many horror stories

I've just gone with Dreamhost
used 'em ages ago, slightly pricier but I was happy

did ASO last year on the cheap, but yeah you pay for what you get I guess

Pip

Calling this good for now

time for forests!

Chris

cool

yes, trees!

Pip

Treez!

Icy Defiance

I talked to an ex-employee of godaddy recently. He said there were people with power trying to turn the company around and having some success. No idea what it's like now, though, since I don't use them.

Pip

21:51

This is eventually going to be totally by seed. Awesome.

Chris

@IcyDefiance that's good to hear, and I mean it must be good for a lot of people, they're a really big company. but eh, web hosting, it's always a gamble I guess, sometimes your server might have bad luck, or bad luck with support requests, yadda yadda, ymmv

@Pip yeah try to be able to set your seed number too

don't be like me

Pip

lol

Mutch95

and and caves!?

@Chris i lets my friend play tallow mere on my phone yesterday he's really keen for it to come to iOS

one thing i noticed

he kept trying to click the rows like when looking at items in inventory instead of using the arrows

Chris

yeahhhhh true, I should probabblllyy add that functionality in

Mutch95

as well as tapping them to actually select them

Chris

21:56

yeah. I'll have a go at it. cheers

Mutch95

other than that it's worked really well :)

i even left the app and removed it in multitasking then re entered

i didn't loose my save

Pip

nice

Icy Defiance

I can't see tallowmere working well on a phone

good luck with that one

joapet99

Tallowmere <3

Mutch95

it runs quite nicely

i'd say it's more difficult

but still it's fun

Icy Defiance

21:58

I don't mean how well it runs. I'm sure a phone is powerful enough.

Pip

my seed isn't doing anything when I change it..... wtf

uh

I guess mountains aren't procedural then?

Icy Defiance

I mean the controls would be very hard to transfer, and dodging enemies and bullets with your thumb in the way would be incredibly hard, especially considering how hard the game is on pc.

if chris turns down the difficulty a LOT then it might work

Chris

shield is toggleable, rather than press-to-hold, attacking lowers the shield automatically, biggest difference from the desktop version probably

Icy Defiance

ah, better design than expected, but you still need 2 thumbs getting in the way of viewing the screen

Chris

if you want it easier you just sac some kittens :D

Icy Defiance

22:01

opinions, opinions. whatever, lol.

Chris

yeah the bottom corners might be a bit blind, but not much you can do about that lol

this game was not a touchphone game eh

I mean you look at the GTA ports

fricking buttons everywhere

Icy Defiance

done tutoring, so I'm out for a bit. o/

Chris

lates

Pip

later

Aidan Mueller

Lol have you seen amazon? amazon.com

Chris

22:03

haha

Jon

@Pip nice work

Chris

not bad for 1999

Pip

I hate how undocumented Mathf.PerlinNoise is :/

driving me crazy

I can't figure out how to change my seed

Chris

maybe you can't? :( might have to roll your own?

Pip

I think I might have to

Frustration ensues :D

Chris

22:07

forum.unity3d.com/threads/how-do-i-use-mathf-perlinnoise.86054

Pip

was just reading that, thanks :)

I might just steal one off of the internet :P

Alright, "stealing" this open-source one

github.com/keijiro/unity-perlin

Or... maybe I'll roll my own

might be cool, learning experience

Superdoggy

Speaking of april fools jokes, did anybody notice the "418 I'm a teapot (RFC 2324)" error codes on stack exchange sites? xD

Pip

XD

I did not, thanks for saying

Superdoggy

Gamedev's StackEgg is ready to be restarted, but I don't have enough rep, so I tried to send a fake restart request and I got the teapot error. xD

Pip

hold on a sec, I'll do it

Oh dang, need a second vote

nvm, hold on

:P

There you go

Superdoggy

22:15

Thx. :P 200 reputation rule probably to stop cough CodeGolf cough from ruining all the fun... xD

Pip

lol

@Chris probably just going to add seed to x (or x and y) when doing noise calcs

Chris

yeah true, that sounds good

SpartanDonut

@Almo @IcyDefiance The "Urfitational" is going on right now. twitch.tv/riotgames

Wardy

gah just remembered why i quit eve again

so dam complex

Pip

dafaq is FBM?

oh, another type of noise

Wardy

22:20

FBM ?

Pip

3

Q: In need of Fractional Brownian Noise (FBM) vs Perlin Noise clarification

I'm researching the various types of noise for terrain generation and I'm a little confused regarding when noise becomes perlin noise and when perlin noise becomes fbm. I'm hoping somebody could clarify anywhere that I'm going wrong. I currently assume the following Noise: Contains a both ampli...

Wardy

wow

i did not know that

the wierd thing though ... its basically what i do all the time :)

joapet99

reddit.com/r/gamedev/comments/311xyi/…

They are FREE!

Chris

lol

joapet99

It is so flexible to all kinds of shapes

Chris

22:35

honestly, April 1st

every year

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Mutch95

April second :p

Pip

Welp. Wrote my "own" perlin noise thing.... putting it up on Github

basically wrapped around another person's one and added seed functionality

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

Hjorthenify

@Pip Can I see the result?

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

Fancy moving shield orbs :P

Pip

22:46

Nice Mindy

Chris

very cool

Pip

@Hjorthenify in a little bit, going to have some dinner in a sec

it'll be on github in a moment

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

It moves like an epitrochoid.

digilander.libero.it/roberto20129/matematica/curve1.html

Scroll down.

Hjorthenify

Gå I seng William :P

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

Næh

Hjorthenify

22:53

Nice website btw. I like the equations. Mind if I use it for something? :D

And man.. Porting a gameengine is tedious -.-

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

Here the shield is going all crazy :P

And I can't see how I could mind you using the equations ;)

Hjorthenify

Well no probs then :D

@William'MindWorX'Mariager Double Folium would be cool for a shield

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

Yeah, plenty of interesting curves

Hjorthenify

Indeed

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

Protip, google "interesting parametric curves" when looking for interesting shapes/curves in game. :P

Hjorthenify

22:58

Det bra

@Chris Do you know if it is possible to get a child by name in Unity?

Chris

Transform.Find

err, transform.Find

Hjorthenify

Awesome. Thanks!

I've learned so much the past two days.. My head spins

Chris

dat knowledge

Hjorthenify

Ye

But Unity is awesome. Much better than Godot.. Everything Godot had I found cool, Unity has as well, but better...

Chris

thing with Unity, to me it makes sense

heh

Hjorthenify

23:01

For instance most of the vector handling is already taken care of.. In Godot I had about 20 lines just to shoot a damn bullet

And in Unity.. 3

Chris

ah 20 lines in Godot?

Hjorthenify

Whoops. My bad.

But yeah

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

Jon

Hjorthenify

FOR SCIENCE

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

23:07

With a bit of light

Jon

looks a little crazy

Hjorthenify

Yeah

Still using that added gradient?

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

Aye

Pip

@Hjorthenify github.com/WardBenjamin/PerlinNoise

Hjorthenify

Nice

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

23:09

A less crazy version

Pip

Still have to add an example, but the actual library is there

Hjorthenify

I have like this very epic piano music playing right now and it stepped up as soon as you posted that picture. Went very well with how the orbs were flying :P

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

Haha

Hjorthenify

Ahh Nice @Pip

Pip

:D

Hjorthenify

23:14

@Chris Any chance you might know why everything but my HUD just dissapeared from my scene view?

Chris

did you change a setting on the Canvas object?

Hjorthenify

I added another picture

I can still see the sprites in game view

Fixed it..

Must have accidentally toggled a layer

Pip

Adding to my repertoire.... Cellular Automata, Perlin Noise, and more to come

Actually... @Chris @Jon any suggestions for stuff you had to roll yourselves?

Chris

like for tiles?

or other gotchas

Pip

mhm

Stuff similar to the above

Chris

23:18

tbh my biggest kind of refactor with Unity was implementing my own audio manager

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

Chris

for when you want to adjust music volume and sfx volume separately

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

Another peculiar movement pattern :P

Chris

but tiles, not really

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

Moves around slowly and suddenly accelerates extremely.

Hjorthenify

23:19

Do the Cartesian Equation.

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

The Cartesian Equation?

I love math :P

Pip

lol

welp. I messed this up somehow

Hjorthenify

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

Ah, so you want me to do the Bicorn? :P

Pip

That's the Bicorn equation using the Cartesian system :P

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

23:23

The "Cartesian Equation" is the equation used to get a cartesian coordinate :P

Hjorthenify

If you can. Also rotate it half a pie

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

brb

Hjorthenify

I see :P

Where are you supposed to learn this stuff? D:

Pip

School

faq why me

Hjorthenify

I have A-level math and I have never seen that equation before...

Pip

23:25

that specific equation is kind of odd, never seen it in school

you should be learning about the Cartesian system though

Hjorthenify

Might just not know the translation

Icy Defiance

wolfram has that equation under Homological Algebra...which I've never heard of before, lol

linear algebra never touched that one. at least not at my school.

Pip

lol

Icy Defiance

so...yeah, I dunno what course might teach it

Hjorthenify

Calculus

Pip

23:27

Guys.... I fucked it up

Icy Defiance

not likely calculus

maybe some college physics or something

Pip

My code doesn't even seem to be running.... wtf

Hjorthenify

Maybe. I just googled it and I do know that equation.. Even by heart it just looks different :D

Pip

My noise function is returning 0f..... wut

Hjorthenify

You probably multiply by 0 somewhere

Pip

23:32

hmm maybe

Hjorthenify

Is it normal to have like 5 scripts on a prefab or is it just me going crazy?

Pip

normal is 20 XD

Hjorthenify

:D

Chris

that's normal

Hjorthenify

Also..

If I have a Unit class which inherits from MonoBehaviour with an Update() function can I then Inherit Unit(but not Mono) form a Player script and override the Update function or do I need to mark it as virtual or something?

Veritas

23:39

yo

what's everyone up to ?

Pip

Trying to get this to work

:P

Veritas

ah just saw it

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