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Poiana Braşov () is the most popular Romanian ski resort and an important tourist centre preferred by many tourists not only from Romania, but also from Italy, France, Germany, Switzerland and other European states. After the 2010s modernization, the ski area has expanded from 50 hectares to 80 hectares and the slopes length was increased from 13.8 km to 23.9 km. most slopes now have snow cannons installed. In 2013, it hosted figure skating, alpine skiing and speed skating in the European Youth Olympic Winter Festival. It is located at about 1,020 meters (3,379 feet) above se...

Mikolaj Marcisz

O well, it seems to me that a lot of things simply went wrong.

Would you have any questions; concerns that would be worth explaining in a FAQ/on the page?

Alex M.

Jon

I used to snowboard

Alex M.

11:13 PM

Tolkien sure inspired a lot of people to do stuff like this

Mikolaj Marcisz

:D

Alex M.

@Jon I never did that :(

Mikolaj Marcisz

Alex M.

I spent a couple of days in Poiana Brasov because my mother had to go to some wine taster's conference or something, but I only walked around the place

oh and I did use a sled

but that was about it

the closest I ever got to winter sports lol

it was the nicest holiday though

the place was beautiful with all that snow

one sec, I think I can still find a pic

in the meantime, here's a very old screenshot from Ars Ignis

I wonder when I'll be finished with turning it to open source

Jon

Here's why i stopped snowboarding

3 of the screws I don't even get

the two on the right look like they are just in my flesh

Alex M.

11:21 PM

what is that

Jon

my ankle reconstruction

Alex M.

damnit I can't find the pics

but I found a sack of sex

@Jon sounds painful

Jon

a sack of sex is better

BlueBug

wow... is that how they fix your ankle? actually put a screw there to hold it? Such operation amazing.

Alex M.

well anyway, the pic would have been very... blue

Jon

11:25 PM

9 screws and a titanium plate

Alex M.

I have no idea what caused the phenomenon

probably the morning or evening light reflected on the snow

everything looked blue, not white

BlueBug

do you get to pull it out latter? or do you just have it for the rest of your life?

Jon

as long as it doesn't bother me they said I should keep it in

its technically stronger than bone

but if it were to break now

Alex M.

Jon

hopefully i'd pass out till the meds at the hospital lol

Alex M.

11:27 PM

ars ignis was so fun before I added plugins :(

getting those items to combine was a nice achievement for me

Jon

what is ars ignis now?

Alex M.

a project with awesome first person physics effects that's on hold because the team didn't output things at a decent pace

I'm trying to remove paid stuff to make it open source

camera effects and stuff, not physics

Jon

ah

Alex M.

the physics are just as awesome as unity allows them to be

Jon

camera effects can really accentuate your physics though :)

Alex M.

11:30 PM

yeah

the effect you get when you fall from great heights is neat

@MikolajMarcisz you should really fix your formatting in those reward boxes though

it looks unprofessional

Jon

So, I imagined a terraria world without torches

Alex M.

the name is good though

NevenTale

sounds childish fantasy-ish

but I'm sure it can catch on

Jon

the name is awesome

Mikolaj Marcisz

@AlexM. Thanks, I can't really do much about it. I will message Kickstarter if their guy can do it.

Alex M.

if you stylized it like Neventale instead

it would seem less Disney-ish

not sure what the term is

Mikolaj Marcisz

11:34 PM

Never Ending Tale

Alex M.

yeah

but NevenTale sort of makes me think of fairy tales

and that's not something in which you slay orcs

Mikolaj Marcisz

Well, this is an RPG, not just a slaughter-based game.

Alex M.

I know

it may be just me

like how FF IX had that fairy tale world

it felt invariably more childish than FF VII

Mikolaj Marcisz

Wanted Never Ending Story online. Taken IP ;/

Alex M.

with its gritty steampunk world

NO NO NO

Never Ending Story Online would have you compete with japanese mmos

with anime characters

it's even more childish than NevenTale

or is cheesy a better term

damnit I dunno I'm going to sleep

Mikolaj Marcisz

11:36 PM

xD

Alex M.

you should really try to adjust your budget or something, dunno

Mikolaj Marcisz

The only thing I can say is that we need to pitch the idea to a publisher; we gave ourselves hopes about Kickstarter.

Alex M.

you're asking for a lot of money and have no previous experience to prove you will deliver

I wouldn't pledge more than $5 in this regard, sorry

I just don't trust you

Mikolaj Marcisz

"We are a collection of independent game developers with over 75 years of combined industry experience, having credits in over 100 shipped game titles of which 14 were AAA. That said, four of our team members have AAA senior/director level experience. As the team has limited resources due to self-funding, there are currently only 10 team members."

Alex M.

I'll also be a lead game developer at my company soon

but when it comes to Blizzard standards

I wouldn't be equal to an intern

I'm just saying

you're asking for $2 mil

it's a lot

Mikolaj Marcisz

11:40 PM

Brett Norton - Lead Gameplay Designer; Lead designer of F.E.A.R.:Extraction Point & Section 8: Prejudice, Former Vice President of Development at Timegate Game Studio.

Alex M.

aight, you're all set

Mikolaj Marcisz

I see your point, this proves me that the only thing we can do is pitch it the traditional way.

No graphics and razzle dazzle = no money to make some. :P

Alex M.

I just compared your project to others

inXile asked for $900k

Mikolaj Marcisz

Life is brutal and we all learn.

Alex M.

and got $2.9 mil

AND THEY HAD BRIAN MOTHERFUCKING FARGO

even if you have Brett Norton, your project won't generate the hype Fallout was able to generate

and with all that hype, they were still close to YOUR goal

which just shows how huge it is

Mikolaj Marcisz

11:43 PM

We have also failed to receive support from some youtubers.

Alex M.

perhaps make a single player RPG?

Mikolaj Marcisz

Like NevenTale?

Alex M.

isn't NevenTale a mmo?

Mikolaj Marcisz

But to fit a UGC design...?

Alex M.

what's UGC?

Mikolaj Marcisz

11:45 PM

OR just some RPG

User Generated Content.

Alex M.

so, is it a mmo or not

do you need to pay for servers

if it's just a single player game with some interaction between players

I'm not sure why you're asking for so much money

when many others managed with less

Jon

having to support servers is a huge requirement

Alex M.

yeah but he says it's not a mmo

Mikolaj Marcisz

NevenTale is an MMORPG, which allows constant world building.

Alex M.
perhaps make a single player RPG?

Alex M.

so it is a mmo

yes, perhaps abandon the idea of a mmo and make a single player rpg instead

I'd pledge more to a single player RPG with a goal of $900k

it actually seems like something that won't die halfway through due to lack of funding

Mikolaj Marcisz

11:48 PM

Nvm.

Jon

or a server / client style architecture... let the player be the server

Mikolaj Marcisz

Jon, Rule no.1 - Never trust the client.

Jon

have a authoritative server, but let the player host it.. so he can manage his own world

Mikolaj Marcisz

We won't monetize it then.

Jon

if people are hosting servers for you..

you don't think you can monetize that?

Alex M.

11:50 PM

Valve disagrees with you Mik

player generated content earns Valve the most money

Jon

The main problem is getting people to host servers for you :)

Mikolaj Marcisz

In what way?

Alex M.

people making content and selling it to other players

it's a goldmine

Mikolaj Marcisz

Hats?

Alex M.

not only hats

items in general

Valve gets a share from all transactions

basically, the players work for them

GnomeSlice

11:52 PM

holla

Alex M.

the players also make the game more exciting through that

Mikolaj Marcisz

Ok. I am not going to argue because you have missed out the point of the NevenTale

GnomeSlice

@AlexM. Badges!

Mikolaj Marcisz

Did you even listen to the whole video.?

Alex M.

FUCK YEAH BADGES

Jon

11:52 PM

if you have a community based game, items that are rare can hold a value of "worth'

Alex M.

@MikolajMarcisz I was actually watching some anime, I'll probably watch the video tomorrow

Mikolaj Marcisz

Ok.

Alex M.

the only point I wanted to get across is: you ask for way too much money

you can ignore the rest if you wish

Jon

2 mil is a lot of money.

occulus rift got 2 million

GnomeSlice

@AlexM. Badges are the best.

I'm glad I don't have a job or I would spend all of my money on Steam badges.

Alex M.

11:54 PM

@Jon just remembered, Project Eternity got almost $4 mil

Mikolaj Marcisz

Ok. I am not going to hold up a discussion about my game if you haven't even watched the pitch.

Have a good one.

Alex M.

but that's because, you know, Baldur's Gate

Dungeons & Dragons

Jon

I'm just speaking out realistically here.

don't be offended

Alex M.

@MikolajMarcisz you don't need to be offended

you linked us to your kickstarter because you wanted us to pledge, right?

that means we're your clients

treat us like clients then

we'll also treat you as someone asking for our money

and question what we'll get in return

Jon

I could do a heck of a lot with 2 million dollars.

Alex M.

11:56 PM

I think I would be able to get my project management software up and running quickly with just $3k

Mikolaj Marcisz

I got the point that $2m is too much.

Alex M.

and get the security done and send it to market for less than $10k

Mikolaj Marcisz

But I had no idea that I am discussing the project without you actually watching the vid xD

Jon

I watched the vid

Mikolaj Marcisz

Alex, I am considering closing the Kickstarter

Alex M.

11:58 PM

just don't say you did it because of me

Mikolaj Marcisz

I wanted to get some info

GnomeSlice

@MikolajMarcisz I think you could do well on kickstarter, but from what I see you're asking too much.

I've never even heard of it before.

Alex M.

(apply judgement stuff) then close it

GnomeSlice

Maybe if you spent a few months time building up attention in the press first

Noctrine

The way they usually work is you ask for the bare minimum,a dn then it explodes if you get enough support.

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