Game Development

12:53 AM

Is there any way to profile shaders? I'm trying to figure out what the bottleneck of my lighting system is.

Like, does it help to decrease the size of the textures transferred. Or is it the calls and not the data that slows down? Or is it the actual work of the shader?

Trevor Powell

I'm not aware of good ways to profile shaders; it's pretty much a case of "try lots of things, see which ones improved the frame rate".

ClassicThunder

1:27 AM

@MindWorX developer.nvidia.com/nvidia-parallel-nsight

tylerrrr07

1:39 AM

Goal for the night... get collisions working properly.

Or at least really close

Wipqozn

Oh snap, I'm still in this room. I thought I left hours ago.

swoosh

John McDonald

@tylerrrr07 Nice, now you scared someone away

tylerrrr07

eh... no one of importance at least :P

Noctrine

2:26 AM

@TrevorPowell 4th floor in japan :p

tylerrrr07

First question on gamedev! Hopefully its a reasonable one (though I know the topic has been beaten to death... I just couldn't find an answer specific to my problem). That must mean I'm approaching it all wrong! XD gamedev.stackexchange.com/questions/23173/…

MindWorX

3:06 AM

@tylerrrr07, You should post the link as a separate chat line. Gives a nice parsed visual thingy ma dingy.

tylerrrr07

Won't let me update the old question to remove it so...

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Q: How can I determine which direction a 2D collision is occurring from?

The problem is as follows: Think 2D Zelda (Links Awakening, A Link to the Past) style movement where you can run into walls from any of the four cardinal directions, or basically up, down, left, and right. The difference between my movement and these games is I want to allow for diagonal movemen...

MindWorX

<3

tylerrrr07

Answer my question dude! :D

I feel so noob asking it too lol

MindWorX

Basic AABB collision. :P

I'm not good at answering questions.

Except when it comes to triangles.

I'm the guru of triangles. quote gamedev.stackexchange

tylerrrr07

Lol... triangles indeed. Had I known that term I probably would have been better at researching it myself

MindWorX

3:11 AM

Axis Aligned Bounding Boxes

tylerrrr07

makes soooo much sense now!

the term i mean

MindWorX

Hmm... My collision system is pretty specific to my tile engine.

tylerrrr07

I'm not using tiles :/

MindWorX

Yeah, exactly.

The idea behind mine would work for you, only instead of checking for tiles, you'll be checking for objects nearby.

tylerrrr07

could work!

and really it doesn't matter the context of whats near... its once I know what I'm colliding with how do I deal with it

MindWorX

3:15 AM

But again, my system is very specific to my tile system.

The tile collision stuff starts at line 136: pastebin.com/XDEE1dgB

tylerrrr07

omg readable code :D

MindWorX

It gets possible collisions based on current movement direction.

tylerrrr07

all the examples I find out there regarding "Game Dev" are such garbage variable names imo

MindWorX

Heh, my variable names are pretty verbose since that's what C# encourages and it's what I like too.

Anyways, what I'm doing is checking what way we're moving, and then using the delta position to find possible tiles to hit.

You'd use the delta position to check which objects you'll be colliding with next frame.

tylerrrr07

Yeah I've got that

I collide properly

my problem comes in with diagonal movement

if I have a horizontal wall and I'm moving Up-Left I want to continue moving left

MindWorX

3:19 AM

Ah

Fix velocity instead of position.

You set the velocity to the exact value that would cause it to touch the wall next step

tylerrrr07

I don't understand how that helps?

oh maybe...

ahhhhhhhhhhhh

I need to individually check what will happen after each cardinal direction not what would happen after it moved entirely

MindWorX

Exactly

tylerrrr07

Go post something to that regard

so I can vote up and mark as answer :P

i was about to code and got confused again...

oh I've got it again

I think...

MindWorX

Check lines 172 and 188 in my pastebin.

You can see how I check collision first in one axis and then in the other axis.

You understand?

tylerrrr07

I do. Just not implementing it right yet

hrmmm

ah

ok

Sweet. Got it I think. Needs a little refactoring as I went through the wall when I hit a corner but otherwise I got it.

3 rep! Woot!

Bahaha.... Double checked my level... I went through the corner because there was a gap in my collision box

Trevor Powell

3:52 AM

That's my favorite kind of bug.

MindWorX

Hehe

tylerrrr07

It was actually a glitch with the level editor providing negative values for width / height and I handled it by setting the widths / heights via absolute value

this then flipped them in the wrong direction leaving gaps

Editor needs fixing

Trevor Powell

"It's misbehaving because the level data is wrong" is always very reassuring. Also, often you can fob those bugs off to designers. ;)

MindWorX

Except he might've designed the editor himself. :P

tylerrrr07

Nah... using the new version of Gleed2D which was actually a complete rewrite by someone else. Despite the bugs this version is already much better so I'm using it and reporting bugs I find

This prototype level I put together is working exactly as expected. Now I need to prototype interacting with objects in the level

Then I need to write production quality code... and then I'm probably ready to start writing stuff specific to my game

:D

Trevor Powell

3:59 AM

"Bug #7 Summary: The editor sucks. Component: Editor. Bug reproduction steps: 1. Launch editor. 2. Notice that editor sucks. Expected behaviour: Editor shouldn't suck."

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tylerrrr07

@TrevorPowell lol

ClassicThunder

@TrevorPowell Got mad my MySQL and did that. They were not amused.

tylerrrr07

Any thoughts on how many objects I should be checking for collisions against before I need to implement a grid or some other sort of higher level check?

I don't anticipate too many things to check against on the screen (Bounding boxes for the area, a few items scattered throughout the area that I can't pass thorugh, a few npcs, and a handful of things that could be interacted with)

Then I figure unload the screen and load a new screen for other rooms

Trevor Powell

@tylerrrr07 Implementing a grid or other higher level check is an optimisation. Don't implement optimisations.

tylerrrr07

@TrevorPowell So don't worry about it until I notice that I need to worry about it?

Trevor Powell

4:05 AM

The first rule of program optimisation is don't. :)

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ClassicThunder

@TrevorPowell but... but... optimizing things is great fun

Trevor Powell

Right. And when you notice that you need to worry about performance, you need to profile your code, and work on speeding up the parts that are spotted by the profiling.

tylerrrr07

Makes sense!

ClassicThunder

but then I don't write games I make libs and tool for others to use

so I get to optimize everything :)

tylerrrr07

Tools development is fun

Trevor Powell

4:07 AM

If you're coding for fun, then optimising is fine. As long as you recognise that it's not an efficient use of your time, with respect to actually finishing a product. :)

tylerrrr07

I love the tip.

ClassicThunder

In C# is there anyway to take in a type and enforce that it is a certain type of object or one of its children?

Trevor Powell

Define "take in"

tylerrrr07

check - if (ObjectInstance is ObjectType) ?

ClassicThunder

Such as publiv void SetState(State or any derived typs inheriting from the state base class)

tylerrrr07

4:10 AM

thats automatic in C#

ClassicThunder

I want it to be IDE enforced if possible

how so?

tylerrrr07

public void SetState(State state)

Trevor Powell

That's just basic polymorphism. :)

tylerrrr07

State and all classes inheriting from State would be accepted

ClassicThunder

I want on object of type type not an instance of the class

Trevor Powell

4:11 AM

(I completely flubbed a job interview question about polymorphism, a month ago. Felt so silly.)

tylerrrr07

Can I ask what the question was more specifically?

Trevor Powell

"define polymorphism"

tylerrrr07

ah

Trevor Powell

xD

tylerrrr07

XD

@ClassicThunder could you explain why you might want that?

user4704

4:14 AM

Anybody going to GDC?

Trevor Powell

Opposite side of the planet. :(

user4704

Pff get work to pay for it.

tylerrrr07

@JoshPetrie too expensive :(

user4704

Apparently that's what I did.

user4704

(this is news to me, which is why I'm only asking about it now)

Trevor Powell

4:15 AM

I've had work pay for it in the past. Not this year.

Expensive from this far away, though.

user4704

I've never been, and don't really understand the point. But if it's on my expense account then why not. :D

ClassicThunder

@tylerrrr07 I'm making a farseer contraption builder that steps though states depending on input and I want the statemaching to be extandable and have a clean API

Trevor Powell

Plane fare costs more than the tickets, from here.

Josh: The point, from your perspective, is to meet as many people as possible, and stay in contact with them! Best thing ever from a career perspective. Do you have business cards?

tylerrrr07

@ClassicThunder but what are you going to do with the type object? Why a type and not an object instance? or an Enum?

user4704

@TrevorPowell Yea, I do.

Trevor Powell

4:19 AM

("stay in contact with" means that you send them an e-mail within a week after the conference ends, and then follow up with occasional pleasantries and how things are going for you at your current job approximately every three to six months. I actually put that on my calendar as a repeating 'to-do' item so that I don't forget.)

user4704

Pff I hate people.

user4704

:D

Trevor Powell

True of lots of people in this industry, I've noticed! ;)

MindWorX

Nate Petrie is much nicer

Though he swears a lot.

ClassicThunder

@tylerrrr07 I'm going to use it in the transition tree and to fetch the states out of the factory since only 1 should exist at a time

MindWorX

4:21 AM

Was it Nate?

Nale?

Hmmm.

user4704

I swear frequently

Trevor Powell

Every job I've had in the last fifteen years, I've gotten because I already knew someone at the company. Makes a huge difference. :)

<-- doesn't interview well.

user4704

I took my team out drinking last weekend and they mostly discussed how I am grumpy and swear a lot.

user4704

Just like my brother: youtube.com/watch?v=2B9_-vVRF8U

tylerrrr07

@ClassicThunder I still don't fully understand... for the moment the best I can think of is throwing an exception if the passed in type isn't the type you want... thinking a little more...

user4704

4:25 AM

Having an object that represents a type is useful for reflection -- what methods does this type have, what data, et cetera.

Trevor Powell

I do that in C++. Well, not methods, but certainly data.

tylerrrr07

Yeah its the Type as a parameter I don't get

user4704

How else do you pass it around?

tylerrrr07

Valid point

how do you enforce which types can be passed?

which is @ClassicThunder's original question

Trevor Powell

I know I could do it with my C++ implementation, since my type objects have the same hierarchy as the classes they're referring to. No idea with C#.

user4704

4:38 AM

You could check the type to see what its parent is, or what interfaces it provides

user4704

Or you should just make the code operate appropriately on any type

tylerrrr07

Thats what I was saying... you could check once inside the function that you have the right type but I don't know that you can define the method to only take certain accept certain types as parameters

I think the parameter must be type Type

user4704

You can't (in C# and such). You shouldn't need to.

tylerrrr07

So now you see why I don't understand :)

user4704

Well I missed the start of the discussion anyhow

ClassicThunder

4:50 AM

I have a state machine and I don't want to use the constructor when I call SetState because the state needs metadata that is added inside the SetState function

It also causes the user in their extension of class to have to save variables in the constructor for a later safe(has the metadata) initialization

Trevor Powell

I pre-create states. "SetState" just passes a pointer. Or better, an enum value.

ClassicThunder

I can compile the states at run time so no enum

tylerrrr07

5:08 AM

I know its pretty much impossible to tell with what I'm about to say... but I'm noticing a very slight stutter roughly every 1-2 seconds... Garbage Collection?

ClassicThunder

xbox 360?

tylerrrr07

best guess?

PC but XNA yes

ClassicThunder

probably

tylerrrr07

its very slight

user4704

It's pretty easy to check.

tylerrrr07

5:10 AM

ooo

user4704

Run perfmon.exe and enable the GC counters.

tylerrrr07

how so?

user4704

Or use a profiler like the ANTS profiler from Redgate (which has a free demo and is excellent)

ClassicThunder

Its bad problem with the 360 but the PC can have problems if you're allocating a lot of memory

Trevor Powell

Garbage collection makes me sad.

But I'm a grumpy old coder who remembers the good/bad old days. ;)

ClassicThunder

5:12 AM

Garbage collections usually faster than doing yourself from everything I read

Trevor Powell

Depends on what you're measuring. :)

ClassicThunder

time it takes the code to execute?

Trevor Powell

I like to measure by the number of hours it takes to debug why a block is leaking. :)

user4704

If you know what you are doing, you can achieve excellent performance in either case. If you don't, you can pretty easily screw it up. GC is not a cure-all, nor is "manual memory management."

Trevor Powell

And wow, I'm using an awful lot of emoticons today. Really ought to cut back.

user4704

5:15 AM

Most people who wildly advocate for one or the other being trivially and obviously superior probably hasn't spend that much time working in the bowels of either class of code.

user4704

C++'s approach for example has this obnoxious tendency to be viewed as "close to the machine" (despite being a clear abstraction and spelled out explicitly as such in the standard), which makes people do dumb things.

Trevor Powell

Josh, this is the Internet. You're not supposed to have a nuanced point of view on these things. It's all black or white, and everyone in the opposing camp is an idiot who deserves scorn and ridicule.

ClassicThunder

@JoshPetrie Best thing to do is avoid creating anything significant during the game loop

user4704

C#'s approach has a similar tendency to be interpreted as "doing it for you," which makes people do dumb things.

tylerrrr07

I killed perfmon... gonna look into ANTS XD

ClassicThunder

5:16 AM

@TrevorPowell "What makes a good man go neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality" :)

user4704

@TrevorPowell My camp is smack in the middle, this why I can apply scorn, derision and ridicule to the maximum amount of people.

Trevor Powell

...

user4704

:D

Trevor Powell

Fifteen years in the industry. FIFTEEN. How has that never occurred to me in all that time?

user4704

I had an excellent (and extremely cynical) mentor.

user4704

5:18 AM

@tylerrrr07 ANTS is invasive and so will change the behavior of your application, which may make your stutter go away.

user4704

It's still excellent, just be aware of that. perfmon.exe uses system collectors.

Trevor Powell

All the best mentors are extremely cynical.

(Actually, not fifteen. It'd be fifteen in April. And I'm at least temporarily leaving the industry in February. So close, and yet so far. ;) )

tylerrrr07

holy cow this tool is amazing

user4704

I am too bad at math to figure out how long I've been doing this. And there was that stint in the DoD for a few years too that maybe doesn't so much count.

user4704

I'm only 29 though, so it's not nearly 15 :D

user4704

5:25 AM

This question is a disaster.

user4704

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Q: linker error undefined reference in Base::Class_object FREEGLUT

I have this code /////////////////////////////////////Gnome.cpp file #include "Living.h" class Gnome:public Living{ private: public: Gnome(); void drawObjects(); }; Gnome::Gnome() { spriteImg = new Sprite("graphics/gnome.bmp"); //<-------------this is where it says there is the ...

c++ opengl glut

ClassicThunder

oh well i'm off to bed

later guys

tylerrrr07

ciao

user4704

Not sure if I should edit it to clean up the code or just close it as off-topic / too localized.

tylerrrr07

so interesting item of note... I'm pretty sure performance improved but the numbers for the method I improved got larger

maybe I should figure out what things like "Time%" and "time With Children %" and "Hit Count" mean

user4704

5:28 AM

Hit count is how many times it was called.

tylerrrr07

ah

thought as much

user4704

Time% is the percentage time spent in the function, time-with-children is the time including child calls

tylerrrr07

so I ran the profiler about half as long but the time and time with children are significantly larger

either way this tool is awesome

thanks for the tip

I'll narrow down the troubles no problem

this is probably a purchase for me :D

maybe

$500 is a little steep

$800 for the full deal

user4704

Yea, it's not cheap for a single developer unfortunately.

Trevor Powell

Curses, Josh, you edited too quickly for me!

user4704

5:33 AM

But their memory profiler rocks too. I use them both at work.

user4704

:D

user4704

I mostly nuked it, which is a bit cheating since I knew what the relevant bits are.

user4704

fff circuit breaker tripped

Trevor Powell

I was just clicking on the 'submit' button as the "edited" banner came up.

tylerrrr07

I think the key is to get all of my "new Rectangle()" calls out of my draw call XD

thats what I get for fast prototyping without a care in the world

user4704

5:36 AM

So, Rectangle is a value type and is not likely to generate a collection.

user4704

Assuming we're talking the XNA Rectangle or whatnot and not something you wrote.

user4704

Because, unless you do something unusual with it like box it or store it to a reference type, it will be on the method's stack.

tylerrrr07

herrmmm

are foreach loops dangerous as far as object creation goes? I would suspect it just references the object inside the collection

user4704

Depends, you might have stimulated the creation of an enumerator

tylerrrr07

no clue... working with the objects provided by this level editor

hmm

user4704

5:41 AM

Then it's a fair bet.

tylerrrr07

I'm looping, getting a layer, looping through that, getting an item, casting item properties as a specific type of properties, then drawing the item based on the properties

user4704

Relevant: stackoverflow.com/questions/3259130/…

user4704

I'm off.

tylerrrr07

ciao

thanks for the tips

Trevor Powell

Seeya, Josh!

tylerrrr07

5:44 AM

I wonder if this "stutter" is just an optical illusion... damn eyes

Gajet

@JohnMcDonald AO?

Trevor Powell

@tylerrrr07 http://web.mit.edu/persci/people/adelson/checkershadow_illusion.html

John McDonald

@Gajet Asteroid Outpost (AO)

Gajet

I've played it a couple of times.

John McDonald

Oh cool, so I guess no news is good news when it comes to bugs

Gajet

5:59 AM

I didn't really encounter any bug,

though I had rough time figuring out power mechanism.

John McDonald

Oh yeah... that's one of the reasons I'm working on that tutorial, and I also plan to require that buildings are connected to the grid in order to be built

the tutorial is a must though, I just get bored when I work on that, lol

Gajet

I'm still not sure when do I run out of power

I just kept adding more and more stuff, till I saw nothing was build.

John McDonald

Ah, yeah... I can see how it's not obvious, and there are ways to screw yourself with the current model

Gajet

they I started building power stations. and everything came back to normal.

John McDonald

Solar Stations produce power at a given rate based on their level and can hold a maximum amount of power in their power reserve

Gajet

6:08 AM

I just played a game at kongregate.com which I think has many similarities to yours

John McDonald

If they are dry, they will still be producing power at their normal rate, but anyone who wants power will be either succeed and drain the last drops of power OR be denied power and not be able to do anything

Gajet

I'm looking for it now. you can use their ideas I guess

John McDonald

@Gajet heh, I wonder why? **looks away**

heh, it's because I'm cloning that game

at least for a starting point

The Space Game?

Gajet

it was somehow on a planet were you have to provide power to some stations and scape

John McDonald

Well, here's the one I'm cloning and enhancing: kongregate.com/games/CasualCollective/the-space-game

I have a number of enhancements in mind, but the first of which is coop

Gajet

6:12 AM

it seems I was talking about "creeper world"

it was on their suggestions

by the way I was thinking 20000 lines of code is a bit too much for such a project, don't you think so?

John McDonald

hahah

I donno, that's how many it is. That does include the testing projects, so not just the core code that is required to execute the game

Gajet

well I think if I was going to develop such a game, I would use a gameengine + 5000lines max

John McDonald

well, the "engine" in this case is XNA, so maybe that counts for some of it?

3276 lines are for the QuadTree and testing projects

Gajet

is there really a need for them?

knowing that there is a spitebatch class in XNA that almost do everything you need for a 2d game

John McDonald

A need for the Quad Tree?

No, there's no need for the quad tree at this stage of development. The only reason it's there is because a friend of mine wanted to work on one for his game, so I said "Sure, let's make a quad tree"

Gajet

6:18 AM

:D

that's how I develop stuff too, except with a they ask me to work on their project!

John McDonald

and a need for the 832 line of code in the Primitives2D package that I think I only use for the lasers? no need, it's just easier and there was a development need to be able to easily draw lines and such

So yeah, even without those two packages, it's still 18754 lines for just the core game code, the sprite animation (not including the program to make them), and the UI code

bah, let me remove all testing code from that

anyway, I'm tired, and yes, it takes quite a lot of code to produce something like that.. at least the way I did it

Gajet

I guess I'm not all that easy with you way

my codes are almost always way too compressed.

John McDonald

:/ yeah, mine is usually expanded

and I always have curly braces

It's just a thing I do

anyway, I'm off to bed

Stack Exchange

6:39 AM

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Q: off topic flags could point to sites Other than meta

well today we had a question really suited for Stack over flow in gamedev. But when I tried to flag it I could only suggest it belongs to meta site. I guess we add Other related sites to that list, like SOF, programmers, or maybe mathematics. side note: I just asked on meta.stackoverflow to add ...

discussion

John McDonald

6:53 AM

@Gajet bah, couldn't sleep without doing this first. Here's a summary of all of the files in AO: docs.google.com/spreadsheet/…

Selecting areas will calculate a sum in the bottom right

Trevor Powell

8:10 AM

I'm at about 90,000 lines of code for my game, at the moment, apparently.

(That's only counting source files, not headers)

Gajet

8:58 AM

the largest code I can remember I've ever developed was an OCR project which was about 10,000 lines. the next one is a wrapper for SDL to easily use it's pixel manipulating features which was 1000 lines source + 150 lines header

Trevor Powell

10:40 AM

My 90,000 includes the game engine I wrote. About half of those lines are in the engine.

Gajet

11:26 AM

@MindWorX I've found a bug, but I couldn't create an screenshot!

don't know why but after trying to take an screen shot it was just a gray screen!

anyway, it seems there is a problem with 'm' shortcut. I was looking for a way to return to the main menu (apparently there is no such a thing), and then I discovered there are short cuts for construction options.

each time I pressed 'm' helper circles were somehow attacked to the screen, though the main miner thing wasn,'t placed.

MindWorX

2:20 PM

@Gajet Huh? Did you mean @JohnMcDonald?

thedaian

2:32 PM

hmmm, i used to keep track of how many lines total my code was

but there's no easy tool to count them in my editor, so i just don't care enough

though a quick round of google searching found me this: locmetrics.com

which says i have 13k lines of code

and 73 source files

KlashnikovKid

9,397 here. :P

tylerrrr07

I'm just getting started. I'm sure I'm less than 500 hehe

MindWorX

I'm contemplating how to handle enemies/npcs vs players codewise.

I mean, a player has a bunch of things npcs/enemies normally don't need.

tylerrrr07

ah so you mean like an inheritance structure

MindWorX

Yeah.

thedaian

2:40 PM

i'd say about 3-4k of that for me is xmlparser libraries, and base64 conversion libraries

tylerrrr07

I don't have good advice... but I can tell you that the way UDK / UnrealScript does it is that the player and the enemies share components. For example they both have a "Pawn" which is the physical representation in the game

MindWorX

I'm thinking of making the "player" aspect sort of a wrapper around the npc/enemy class.

thedaian

so we'll go with 10,000 lines of code of my own stuff

i would also go with a base "character" class which the npcs and enemies and the player inherit from

KlashnikovKid

Yeah, it's a good idea to make an entity indifferent to who's controlling it by writing an interface class.

MindWorX

25808 lines of code in Legeria.

More than I would've thought.

And I still haven't readded the whole physics system back.

thedaian

2:43 PM

hmmm, i really don't know if i'm just really good at making small programs, or if i'm missing something somewhere

MindWorX

Oh, I see where I made a mistake.

I included SlimMath

I wonder if I can make it not count that part.

Ah, more sensible, 7633 lines of code.

thedaian

you could count how many lines SlimMath is... oh, that's a lot better. i think.

it at least makes me feel better

MindWorX

thedaian

MindWorX

XML stuff takes a bunch.

thedaian

2:47 PM

yeah

so much for "tiny" :P

MindWorX

The core of my system "TileWorX" takes a chunk which makes sense.

And the client is pretty focused around GameComponents, so it makes sense it takes a good chunk as well.

thedaian

"objects" is where all the game object classes live, so it's pretty big. kind of interesting that the GUI and Engine sections take about the same in my case.

MindWorX

Indeed. :)

thedaian

Engine is the state machine classes for everything.

like, Menu and Map... and that's about it actually (there's an Intro but it's not used)

MindWorX

I'm trying to think of a way where every npc/enemy is a potential target for the player controller, while not making AI completely complicated.

thedaian

2:52 PM

hmm, good luck

MindWorX

Maybe something shallow for input. If the player controls, it's based on keyboard input. If the AI controls it's based on AI logic.

So the entity is coded to react to "left" and it does it's thing.

Then something on top controls when to "left"

Which would be either AI or a player.

So entities never poll for input, it's only passed to them.

tylerrrr07

yeah

you could have a player controller component taht can be based on inputs or AI

So in an Update() call per se, you can either check for input, or react based on AI

which isn't what you said but its what I see in my head...

MindWorX

Yeah, something like that. :)

tylerrrr07

You could have "Controller" -> AIController and PlayerController

all entities have a Controller

That way if you are passing messages for input, you can specifically target the PlayerControllers

MindWorX

Yes! And Controller has events, like BeginMoveLeft, EndMoveLeft and so on.

tylerrrr07

2:56 PM

You got it

MindWorX

So all my entities have a Controller member, which exposes all types of input possible, and it's up to the Entity how to use that input.

tylerrrr07

Seems logical

MindWorX

So a Goomba would need Begin/End-Move-Left/Right, and ignore Jump and other events.

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