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12:32 AM
Morning 🙂
 
Morning
 
@bbaird Sorry to hear about your work situation, but definitely reassures me I wasn't crazy when I went through the same thing (fortunately the people I worked with were reasonable and listened to the facts).
My favorite part of exploring AWS to try to meet our business needs, was very simple business problems couldn't be solved over the course of 3 months between 5 meetings involving about 8 Solutions Architects from AWS. Like they were trying to sell us on technology their SAs had no clue on how to use. 🤐
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6:53 AM
Morning
 
7:30 AM
A chairde - Morning all...
 
 
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8:45 AM
Morning
 
9:04 AM
morning
 
 
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11:24 AM
https://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/app-psql.html#:~:text=--list

| `--list`
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| When this option is used, **psql will connect to the database `postgres`**, unless a different database is named...
but why dot gif
was just changing a testing script from "-c '\\l'" to "--list" to make it more human-readable and got bit by that
 
11:36 AM
Oct 11 '19 at 13:41, by Paul White
chat markdown strikes again
 
12:30 PM
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Unfroze trash. Good we haven't used it for a while I guess.
 
 
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1:33 PM
Why is the SELECT statement the wrong way round?
INSERT INTO <tablename> ( <column> [,...n]) values ( <value> [,...n])`
UPDATE <tablename> SET <column> = <value>
But
SELECT <columnd> FROM <tablename> WHERE <predicate>
Wouldn't the following be more natural (and better for intellisense)
SELECT FROM <tablename> (<column> [,...n]) WHERE <predicate>
 
Or FROM <object> SELECT <columns> WHERE
 
Yeah
 
Yes. Yes it would.
 
I think LINQ works that way
 
NSQL™
Natural Structured Query Language
 
1:40 PM
IIRC Linq does it that way.
 
Ahhhhh I C##
 
It seems like you can't really win this. When you first write it, it's better to have the FROM on the top, but then when you are using it later, it's better to have the SELECT on the top. And since 90% of software's life is in maintenance, I guess that's probably the right choice.
 
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Q: Do any SQL dialects permit the logical sequence of SELECT clauses?

DaiSELECT in ISO/IEC-standard SQL prescribes the following syntactical order for the sub-clauses: SELECT projection-expressions FROM sources WHERE predicate-expression GROUP BY key-expression HAVING predicate-expression ORDER BY ordering-expressions While the logical execu...

 
Just missing an "o" there in the second character position. :-)
 
Naturally-oriented Structured Query Language
 
1:46 PM
NSAQL - Naturally Structured Addictive Query Language
 
There is some useful background to the decision in:
May 11 at 11:51, by ypercubeᵀᴹ
Another related article: HAVING A Blunderful Time or Wish You Were WHERE by Hugh Darwen.
 
2:03 PM
> It is always a struggle to explain, even though I understand the reasons perfectly well, that every appearance of a column reference in the SELECT clause of a grouped query must either be a reference to a grouping column or be inside an invocation of an aggregate operator such as SUM.
...except for PostgreSQL (or was that MySQL?)
 
Interesting read that. Thanks.
 
2:44 PM
@PaulWhite always
 
@J.D. I've decided the best course of action at this point is to give them the finger, spend time finishing our existing solution, then put the onus on them if they want to do anything other than host the SQL Server in a different environment.
Like "hey, this is working, whatever you do will have to do the same or better, and the development costs will have to be less than the cost savings from the different technology used."
 
Careful, you won't get the phone call
 
lol
 
3:49 PM
Yea unfortunately some people's minds can't be changed to see anything other than what they want to see, usually the less technically inclined. Best of luck mate!
 
4:28 PM
@JohnK.N. there are different versions of answer to that question
 
 
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6:48 PM
"As before for this correctly to work, you need an order. onöly ordering it by id_ isn't usually enough to get the job done, it would be terr whenyou can add another order to the hole thing"
Say what?
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A: Difference between rows of a table - MySQL 5.7

nbkAs before for this correctly to work, you need an order. onöly ordering it by id_ isn't usually enough to get the job done, it would be terr whenyou can add another order to the hole thing CREATE TABLE IF NOT EXISTS t1 ( id_ INTEGER NOT NULL, value1 INT NOT NULL); INSERT INTO t1 (id_, v...

 
7:36 PM
perhaps that makes sense if it's translated into German.
 
8:14 PM
Equally clear as the question ;)
 
 
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9:49 PM
Morning
Any of y'all getting odd recruiter emails mentioning old StackOverflow answers? Or even people asking for help? Gotten one of each this week.
 
Nope
I saw someone say they had on Twitter. But people say all sorts of things there
 

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