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Mazura

00:29

"If the gun weighed as much (very important) as the projectile, and was as small (also important), it would. We have an ancient Styre rifle that was shortened at some point, vastly reducing it's weight. Its recoil went from being described as 'unpleasant' to 'grim'."

Q: Why does shooting a handgun accelerate a bullet to deadly speed without injuring the gun user's hand?

Momentum is defined by the product of mass and velocity. Now a projectile out of a gun has to have high velocity to penetrate a human body, as its mass isn't significant. But to reach this velocity, due to inertia/the law of energy conservation, momentum on both sides is to be equal. As there is ...

@Bellerophon It's how good the recoil system is, or intrinsically is because of weight (and shoulder surface area).

Your wrist is a terrible platform for anything that isn't self guided and recoilless.

'how strong you can make the' recoil. Basically about what a .306 puts out in bolt-action rifle with no recoil system in the stock. Or 12 gauge slug, but that's different. Rifle is a quick smack. Shotguns you're wondering when it's going to stop trying to knock you over. .50 BMG : is because there's a giant spring (nvr shot it tho).

The question is how big do you have to make the cartridge. You'd get room for like 5 rounds of .50 in a powerfist. But it'd actually be lethal even with a spring taking the majority of the recoil. You wanna cow-punch dudes in armor? Better make it a fifty (or if you got some Micro Fusion Cells... ;)

Shalvenay

00:50

@Mazura -- one interesting recoil point would be constant-recoil MGs, basically in those, the bolt group stops due to spring action before it reaches its mechanical travel limit, so instead of discrete pulses, all you get when you hold the trigger down is a steady push back into your shoulder

Mazura

Powerfists should require power armor; that's where the recoil goes.

sup slav

;)

@Shalvenay Dad said the M16 just kinda shakes tho

Recoil system in there is pretty slick

Mounted weapons are... mounted for a reason.

Shalvenay

@Mazura M16 is conventional more or less. an example of true constant recoil is the Knight's Armament LAMG

it's something that only makes sense for full-auto rock&roll though, so it's only used on machineguns

Mazura

There's no climb?

re. constant recoil

I've never gone full auto ;( that sounds like the one thing you'd want tho

.223 is a joke tho. I can see why I'd call it a toy. If that's all you'd had ever shot, you'd wouldn't know what recoil even is. Then again i've never fired .223 out of something with no system. If it's only half as bad as a 306 then it's still jokey.

I don't think you can put constant recoil on a retractable cow-killing-cylinder... but you could use recoil to power it up. hmm. sounds unreliably story based ;)

Gryphon

01:23

@Mazura I don't think I've ever heard a gun's recoil described as "grim" before.

Sounds like something I would greatly enjoy watching someone else shoot from a respectable distance.

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Mazura

02:31

@Gryphon went from being described as 'unpleasant' to 'grim'. That's actually a quote my dad found about them on the net. We each fire it maybe once a year just to remember how much it sucks. Ammo's hard to find. We have like 50... and that's a lifetime supply.

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JohnnyApplesauce

14:45

If you're a loyalist running through the colonies, what's a better weapon to carry with you, a wood ax or a poker (assuming you only having those options)?

Yikes, its amazing how inarticulate being in a chatroom makes you.

If you're on the run in 18th century America, and you have the choice between a poker and an ax, which is better to carry around with you?

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