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A: Sandbox for Proposed Questions

AlexisRe-open proposal for this question What follows is an attempt to have a former question of mine re-opened. You might want to have a look at it first. Some comments about why the question was closed The question was first commented as too story based, then closed as too broad. The intent of the...

 
12:55 AM
Last night dream involve a convoluted time travel scheme:
A time machine to the past is created
Histiry is changed to some desirable fashion
The time traveler returns to the present
However, the time machine has to be destroyed while it is indestructible
Thus after that, the time traveler causes some event that lead to the grandfather paradoxing of the creation of the time machine, thus negate it from existence
Spacwtime is broken as a result, with the time machine able to temporarily reach to periods before it is first created
And... it gets crazier...
At some unspecified future, miniature grandfather paradoxes were created en mass and concentrated in a region.
 
1:23 AM
These can be moved around as if they are objects. The local instability hence the power of the time machine depends on the local density of these grandfather paradoxes
 
 
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7:36 AM
@Mithrandir24601 It is important. But I strongly disagree to it being the go-to option. I see many questions going around that are not answerable... so yes, that attracts people, yes, we hit the HNQ more often than not. But no, that does not improve the overall quality.
Ideally, what constitutes a good question and what doesn't should be quite clear. For edge cases, some discussion may occur. To define more precisely how that goes.
Refusing to pcik does not really help. To the OP, it says: your question is not really good and might be closed any time. But it can also be fine. So change it without changing it...
 
 
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8:45 AM
@bilbo_pingouin I think much of the problem is that people aren't aware of what should/shouldn't be closed, as opposed to that they're not reviewing correctly - 'if unsure, skip' is quite a fundamental process to how reviewing works
 
@Mithrandir24601 well if they aren't aware what should and what should not be closed is also a problem.
I remember "back in the day", we had a lot of discussion on that topic...
 
@bilbo_pingouin Yeah, it is a problem - I've flagged things that absolutely need closed, only people keep it open, only for it to get closed a week later
 
I can understand that the mood has somewhat changed, but that people active on the site aren't aware... it baffles me.
 
I don't get it [why people aren't aware of what is on/off-topic] either :P
I think it partially does go down to things like HNQ - people pop in on a (likely off-topic) HNQ post, write an answer, get many votes, think that sort of question is fine, rinse and repeat and suddenly they're reviewing
 
Yeah, that's what I'd call the Curse of the HNQ.
 
8:50 AM
Well, they're planning on changing that, at least
 
We all want to get virtual cookies, and HNQ is a great way to get them. But it's industrial cookies, not very tasty... and often leave an after-taste.
@Mithrandir24601 I only saw that some sites opt-out of HNQ.. is there anything else planned?
 
@bilbo_pingouin Oh yes :) (give me a moment to find the post)
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Q: Revisiting the "Hot Network Questions" feature, what are our shared goals for having it?

Tim PostSome things happened yesterday that caused a need for us to (quickly) remove a site's eligibility to contribute to the list of hot network questions. For those of you not familiar with what we've come to call the 'HNQ' list, please visit the link; the list of questions shown as 'hot' on stackexch...

(it's assumed that the ridiculous number of downvotes is because of meta drama related to Twitter drama, not because people like HNQ as it is)
 
who -211 ! I never saw that... ^^"
"They often remind communities to have discussions about scope" that's exactly what should happen for us...
whoa, there's some anger issues in the comments...
 
9:21 AM
A lot to read... IPS is a risky site, to be fair... I have seen curious questions over there... but I did not expect it to trigger that reaction
 
Yeah, there was a thing on Twitter that caused this - someone (who didn't seem to be aware that SE is a network of sites, as opposed to just SO) felt the questions weren't appropriate (in context, fair enough) to appear on HNQ, only, well, things went very badly downhill very quickly
 
yeah, sounds like trying to put off a fire with oil... it might work, but it's more likely to go wrong...
 
Sounds about right :/
 
9:36 AM
I came upon that on TWP, where they are considering opting-out of the HNQ.
But I did not see further where that came from..
 
 
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2:34 PM
If chats were on HNQ, this one would always be the #1, and would constantly have to kick people for jumping in and flamethrowing/insulting when we have our polite political discussions.
 
I don't disagree with any of the top answers there. It basically looks like they threw their users under the bus to please some overly loud, overly sensitive, regressive totalitarian SJAs, looking to divide and destroy all that is not them.
 
FWIW, I think SE is run by a bunch of SJWs.
Like, their welcome wagon on SO: you can no longer link the docs and tell someone to read them anymore.
That's too unwelcoming and rude.
 
3:12 PM
Could be.
Or just need to grow a spine and stop bowing down to the people that want to segregate everyone based on gender and race.
 
3:31 PM
why does microsoft need to have their own version of every flipping thing?!?!?!??!
 
Usually because the competition literally doesn't scale to the size they need.
For example, Git is a great source control system, right?
Unfortunately, it couldn't scale to the size of the Windows team with 100s of commits each day. They had to make several tweaks to improve performance when they were switching to it.
 
3:44 PM
One of the tweaks they made was a bug fix so it wouldn't crash when two people made commits at the same millisecond.
They didn't change Git directly, but they wrote a layer over it that queues them now.
 
@dot_Sp0T Which specific thing are you upset about?
@Hosch250 On a side note, can we stop referring to them as SJWs? What they do isn't justice, it's a lynch mob, and calling them warriors is an insult to the people who defend our freedom, instead of trying to take it away.
Sorry, they kinda rile me up
 
4:50 PM
@AndyD273 in that case the fact that MS rolls their own LCIDs aside from older standards
 
Ah, gotcha. Well, they learned their lesson in regards to web browsers by retiring edge in favor of something built on someone elses technology, so there is some hope
 
I got more respect for Edge after finding out how it got its name. At least they tried.
 
@CortAmmon I don't know if I've heard that story
 
X-UA-Compatible
When new versions of IE came out, there was a strong desire for the old webpages written against the quirks of the previous browser to still work exactly the same way
That's the kind of backawrds compatability MS loves
So they made a meta tag, X-UA-Compatible.
X-UA-Compatible=IE7 say "Render this page against the version of the standard that was current when IE7 came out"
X-UA-CompatibleEmulateIE7 says "Render this page not only against the standard from IE7, but emulate all the quirks of IE7 that we know about"
They did these for IE5, IE6, IE7, IE8
There was one more flag available
X-UA-Compatible=edge
Edge indicated "Use the latest standard that your browser supports, whatever that is."
So the act of naming their browser "Edge" was a pact
They will not have any backwards compatability modes for edge (or future versions if they ever came out) beacuse the name of the X-UA-Compatible tag would collide with their keyword for "use the latest spec"
It was a pact to strive towards keeping up with the specs, and encouraging their customers to do so as well.
Now I don't know if we can give MS credit for this, but it also put them on the path to pick up a WebKit based browser techn like Chromium, because they have declared "no more compatability layers for us!"
 
5:08 PM
Does sound interesting. Might also be related to how much open source stuff they have been embracing over time, to the point where they aren't as scared to use something that they don't completely control top to bottom
since Microsoft is the largest single corporate contributor to open source on Github
 
5:24 PM
@AndyD273 They didn't retire Edge.
They just retired the engine and switched to Chromium's Blink engine.
 
5:55 PM
The biggest news of all of this is that you can officially say, and be 100% technically correct, "use of Google's technology is an edge-case."
 
6:08 PM
heh
 
6:20 PM
@Hosch250 How about "in regards to web browsers by retiring the edge web render engine in favor of something built on someone elses technology"
 
 
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7:57 PM
@AndyD273 What do you think about solving the trouble in the SGR by having the guy figure out enough shadow to free himself and taking off in the middle of the night.
I imagine he'd be desperate enough to do it if he thinks he's going to jail, or more likely, execution.
(Considering medieval time periods, which seem to fit with the story pretty well.)
 
@Hosch250 That is something that could work, especially if they relieve him of his old phylactery, meaning that it wouldn't be interfering with him anymore
 
Then we can say he either a) learned his lesson and leaves them alone, or b) is a bully and needs someone else to share the blame.
 
Sure, sounds like a plan. Maybe a "well, he escaped in the night." "should we go after him?" "No, he didn't take anything or hurt anyone. We'll just set an extra guard and hope he's smart enough to find a place in some far off colony." Or something
 
 
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9:22 PM
I love how the SGR is still going
I will start contributing in about a month again
 
@dot_Sp0T Who knows, may roll out round 2 at that point. There has been talk about trying a different process to allow some plotting for the next one
Anyone seen the new "dark fluid" theory, that unifies dark energy and dark matter into something new with negative mass?
 

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