The Factory Floor

Shalvenay

00:21

hey there @sphennings

Shalvenay

01:23

hey again @sphennings

Green

01:40

@James for reasons I can't quite explain, got remind me strongly of Samuel Vimes from Discworld. It's a very entertaining thought.

@Shalvenay hey!

Shalvenay

how're things going?

Secret

04:05

Simple machine

A simple machine is a mechanical device that changes the direction or magnitude of a force. In general, they can be defined as the simplest mechanisms that use mechanical advantage (also called leverage) to multiply force. Usually the term refers to the six classical simple machines which were defined by Renaissance scientists: Lever Wheel and axle Pulley Inclined plane Wedge Screw A simple machine uses a single applied force to do work against a single load force. Ignoring friction losses, the work done on the load is equal to the work done by the applied force. The machine can increase the amount...

One can draw some interesting philosophical connections of these with mathematics. For example, Wheel and axle work as they do because of the mathematical properties of a circle

Green

05:27

@Shalvenay I'm up entirely too late rereading on of my favorite books, "Thud!" by Terry Pratchett.

HDE 226868

14:04

Let it snow, let it snow, let it snow!

Pleiades

Haha, I wanna get home before it starts doing anything here lol

God, the weather here has been weird. If anyone needs a world with bizarre weather patterns, just look at the Midwest for examples; it literally jumped from 57 F to 10 F in a span of a couple hours and then started snowing.

dot_Sp0T

@HDE226868 the cold never bothered me anyway?

HDE 226868

@dot_Sp0T groan

kingledion

14:27

@HDE226868 We got an inch or so down in Virginia, the super light fluffy stuff

@dot_Sp0T I'm pretty sure that is 'let it go'

HDE 226868

@kingledion That's roughly what we've gotten where I am, although we might get up to 3".

kingledion

@HDE226868 Good lord, I;m reading the transcript between you, Bellerophon, Sphennings and Future Historian from yesterday

That guy

He needs to get out and talk to people more; I can't imagine what his interpersonal dialogue is going to be like

sphennings

@kingledion If you feel that I'm being too harsh on him please call me out on it.

kingledion

I bet he needs to do more research at a bar, and less at Stack Exchange

@sphennings Nah, he needs some truth telling, otherwise he'll just get spun up working out back details for years and never write anything

Which probably won't make him a happy person in the long run; you are looking out for his long term happiness @sphennings

sphennings

@kingledion That's a very diplomatic way of saying I'm tired every plot point getting fielded to chat.

kingledion

14:38

And correct me if I'm wrong @HDE226868 but he's been on chat pretty regularly for a year at least

If he's still going over plot like this....he's never going to get anything done

HDE 226868

@kingledion No, that's about right.

kingledion

We should collectively decide not to talk to him until he publishes something :)

My mom's husband has been writing a book for about 15 years now

Green

@kingledion Not hard to agree. I couldn't take his style of questions so he's on mute to me.

kingledion

He still hits me and my wife (both Navy officers) up for plot points because its some sort of Tom Clancy style military thriller

But let me tell you, the ship he was writing about has been decommissioned, all his technical data is out of date, etc

Thats going to be future historian if he doesn't publish and move on

He's going to end up writing about countries that don't exist any more

sphennings

How do we communicate to users, that worldbuilding/detail/scientific accuracy won't make their story better?

Green

14:43

@kingledion perhaps we might introduce him to the Done Manifesto. medium.com/@bre/the-cult-of-done-manifesto-724ca1c2ff13

sphennings

While bad worldbuilding/details/scientific accuracy will greatly detract from it.

kingledion

@Green I need to adopt that manifesto for my thesis which needs to move to the state of completion in about 3 months.

Green

@kingledion It's done wonders for me.

sphennings

@kingledion Are you aware of this blog?

kingledion

@sphennings I hadn't seen that one

That blog has a pretty good breadth

sphennings

14:49

I saw it and thought it was right up your ally.

kingledion

Yeah I'm actually having trouble tearing myself away from all the awesome urban planning stuff, and into boring old feature selection.

Although I did write up a nifty feature selection algorithm last night, so that was the first good work I've done on my thesis in a month

Speaking of urban planning and rails, who is interested in subways? @HDE226868 @Green

Because if you are I have a place just for you

area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/105759/…

Railways Stack Exchange, I'm going to single handedly make it a thing

HDE 226868

@kingledion You've piqued my interest. Go on.

Green

@kingledion I'm down with subways. What's the question?

@kingledion :smile:

kingledion

So its a Stack for railroads. I read a good deal of transportation blogs like pedestrianobservations.com and thetransportpolitic.com about various aspects of design and cost of rail transit

In the US, I think it is important to work on good political arguments for urban transit, if you are a person who likes cities and doesn't like global warming

So a good Q and A site would be a net good thing for the world for spreading ideas on how to get efficient cheap public transit (i.e. European) as opposed to corrupt, broken public transit (i.e. the US)

So come participate! Need about 140 more people.

area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/105759/…

HDE 226868

15:04

I'd be interested.

Future Historian

Hmmmmmmm.

Gentlemen? One vs one tank battle: T-62 vs M60. Winner?

sphennings

@FutureHistorian That depends a multitude of other factors. You can write it so that either tank wins if you wish. Which tank needs to win for your plot to progress?

Future Historian

@sphennings. It is for fun. It is not meant to be a story thing.

kingledion

@HDE226868 Well, commit away then.

Future Historian

Besides, I just wanted to ask for the fun of it.

kingledion

15:09

I've invited a bunch of bloggers, I wonder if any of them will join?

Future Historian

@kingledion? Who would win in a tank battle: an M60 or a T-62?

Green

@kingledion That'd be cool if they did.

Future Historian

NOTE: I am purely asking for the sake of fun.

It is not for a story.

No......it is to see how the tanks compare and how they would fare in a 1 v 1 battle.

@Green? Who do you think would be reduced to scrap metal first? T-62 or M60?

Hmmmmm.

Does anyone remember that question I had for a Cold War Gone Hot scenario?

This one, I mean:

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Q: If the Cold War went hot in the early 1970s, would the Warsaw Pact be able to reach the Rhine River?

So, let us go back in time to the year 1973, specifically around October of 1973; the time frame of the Yom Kippur War. In our timeline, the conflict almost became WWIII after the Soviets threatened to intervene on behalf of Egypt after the ceasefire began to break down. After the American Sixth ...

HDE 226868

@kingledion I have. I think that puts me at three commitments at the moment.

sphennings

@kingledion I'm especially interested in being able to ask people about various about different signaling systems. Most of the testing I was doing was on the TWC section of track and the dispatchers were too busy to explain it to me.

kingledion

15:24

@sphennings I invited this guy Alon Levy from pedestrianobservations.com He has a ton of technical knowledge about the relationship between operating costs and signaling systems. You might find some interesting posts on his site.

Hopefully he will participate

HDE 226868

Speaking of Area 51 proposals, if anyone wants to commit to Technical Communication, that'd bring us close to 200. We just need 2 more.

Future Historian

So, @kingledion? T-62 vs M60 = winner in a one v one tank battle?

sphennings

@HDE226868 Got a link?

Future Historian

Hmmmmm. So much for fun.

Oh well.

Back to the drawing board.

kingledion

@FutureHistorian I don't have any special knowledge of 1960s MBTs

They probably shot at each other in one of the Arab-Israeli wars of the 1960s/1970s, why not investigate that?

HDE 226868

15:27

@sphennings Give me a second.

@sphennings area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/101439/…

Future Historian

Hmmmmm. Good point.

In fact, I had the 1973 Arab-Israeli War/Yom Kippur War/Ramadan War once set the stage for World War III.

Besides, the Yom Kippur War had two different armies with different degrees of competence.

I am looking at how an American M60 tank would fare against a Soviet T-62, not an Egyptian/Syrian T-62 vs an Israeli M60.

sphennings

@FutureHistorian There are 2 types of people: those who can extrapolate from insufficient data....

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Future Historian

I should probably.......wait a minute.

Let me check which models were available in 1973.

Aka: when the Yom Kippur War broke out and (in this timeline) spiraled out of control.

kingledion

@HDE226868 It needs one commit from someone with 200 rep!

sphennings

@HDE226868 Thanks.

kingledion

15:33

I'd do it but I really don't know if I'd ever post on that site

HDE 226868

@kingledion Well, 2 before sphennings committed.

@sphennings Cool. Thanks/you're welcome.

Future Historian

@sphennings. One second. I will do some R&D now.

HDE 226868

I used to love model railways. There's a place called Northlandz we went to a couple of times when I was a kid. It's pretty spectacular. Maybe I can summon the same enthusiasm for real railroads.

Future Historian

Well, the M60A1 performed admirably during the Yom Kippur War......at least when manned by competent crewmembers. Initially, the T-62 and T-54/55 did manage to cause significant trouble against the IDF M60A1s. Not sure about the M60A2, since.....well, complicated maintenance, intense training required and complex operation of the tank.

HDE 226868

Also, I'm going to have some questions about subway systems in NYC and Boston, I think. Subway cars in Boston are pretty cool, compared with what I'm used to in NYC.

kingledion

15:42

@HDE226868 Subways are awesome. There are so few places in the country where you can use intra-city rail as your primary means of transportation

Future Historian

So, I am getting the feeling that American M60A1s and M60A2s, without competent crew, are most likely doomed against T-62s under the Soviets. So, assuming equally competent crews, an M60 would be smashed against a T-62.

kingledion

Really only four cities: NY, Boston, Chicago, DC

Future Historian

At least in a one on one engagement.

Green

@kingledion I've got a question that will surely go high on Google when the Red Line freezes up in the winter. "Why do Red Line trains have such trouble in the winter?"

Future Historian

@sphennings? What do you think of that conclusion?

HDE 226868

15:43

@kingledion Have you by any chance gotten to use some of the elevated trains in new York? Going out into Queens from Manhattan, a few lines rise up above the buildings, and you can see for a long ways. It's beautiful.

Future Historian

That American M60s, unlike the Israelis, would be easily crushed by the Soviet T-62s, assuming crews of equal competence?

kingledion

I've used the L in Chicago a lot more. I went to undergrad at University of Illinois and visited Chicago semi-often

I like L trains, I think those have a big future. Modern ones are so quiet; and they are much much cheaper than digging tunnels

Future Historian

The only reason the Israeli M60s succeeded later on was thanks to local upgrades and the incompetence of the Syrians and Egyptians.

HDE 226868

@kingledion Chicago's the only one of those four I haven't used. It sounds nice.

Future Historian

The M60A3 is still not a thing yet, plus the Americans were still conscripting troops, not to mention demoralised after the Vietnam War debacle.

If the M60 is doomed against the T-62 in one v one, imagine entire tank companies facing off against each other along the Fulda Gap.

@kingledion? After doing some digging, I am going to guess that the T-62 > M60, assuming equally competent tank crews.

Soviet tanks cross the Fulda Gap and roll into West Germany

kingledion

15:51

Sounds good @FutureHistorian

Future Historian

Given that, expect the Americans to have a really bad time fighting off the Soviets in Germany.

Sure, NATO has naval and air superiority (the latter is possible if PACT forces have no means to keep NATO from exploiting its advantage and the former is not apparent at first, since.......well, Soviet submarines would be harassing NATO) but the PACT forces would steamroll Germany by the time reinforcements arrive and NATO would be forced to nuke the PACT forces along the Rhine.

@kingledion. One more thing......have you ever heard of the plan called Seven Days to the River Rhine?

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Days_to_the_River_Rhine

NOTE: This plan was developed later in the 1970s, so I am not sure if the plan is applicable to the early 1970s.

kingledion

16:07

@FutureHistorian Friends don't link friends to mobile wikipedia! And I have heard of the plan

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Future Historian

Oh.

Well, I wonder if the same plan would have been executed in 1973 or if that was more for the 1980s.

Green

@kingledion Oh man. I remember JDlogz (spelling. Sorry) yelling at me about that once. I always made sure to remove the .m. from my wikipedia links ever after.

kingledion

Hehe

Future Historian

17:36

So, question: which is worse: Nazi-dominated Earth or extinct humans?

Besides, I want to see what happens if humanity is attacked by ET either during WWII or the Cold War (the Worldwar series and Xenonauts aside).

Bellerophon

17:54

Yay, I got my first weird hollow star on the starboard.

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Secespitus

@Bellerophon Congratulations

kingledion

@Secespitus Did you see JonSkeet hitting the million? stackoverflow.blog/2018/01/15/thanks-million-jon-skeet/…

I calculated it out the other day, he has averaged 265 rep per day since site launch

Future Historian

18:12

Hmmmmmmmm. So, @Bellerophon. Remember that mockumentary called The Great Martian War?

Because I had an idea.

.............Or nevermind.

Bellerophon

@FutureHistorian No.

Future Historian

It was basically a mockumentary about What if War of the Worlds happened during WWI.

:P

It is basically too similar to our WWI and realistically.........good luck trying that! Humanity would have been realistically wiped out in any realistic scenario involving hostile ET.

Secespitus

@kingledion That's crazy ....

HDE 226868

@kingledion I just read that. I wonder who the Jon Skeet of Worldbuilding is/was. I suppose it's changed over time, come to think of it.

Secespitus

@kingledion I never had that per day

Future Historian

18:26

So, I have to wonder if there is any actual contingency plans for hostile first contact.

Or if humanity is completely caught off-guard.

sphennings

@kingledion My record is 296 which I only reached because I got the association bonus on a day that I almost rep capped.

paj28

Hi World Building, can I get some advice on editing this:

-1

Q: What is life like in an Intersteller Colony within the Laws of Physics

Consider a future humanity that has highly advanced technology, but cannot break the laws of physics as currently understood. Specifically, humans can (at great expense): Build spaceships that can go up to 0.5 light speed. Cryo-hibernate humans for a reasonable period. Communicate between star ...

space spaceships

Would it be enough to remove the "sub questions" section

or is "What would life be like" inherently too broad?

HDE 226868

@paj28 I think that would be a start.

sphennings

Hi @paj28 "What would life be like?" is a very broad question. Think of how you would answer "What is life like?"

Future Historian

@HDE226868? Would asking about real life contingency plans (official or not) be a good idea?

For extraterrestrial attacks?

kingledion

18:30

@HDE226868 Wait did you seriously just ask me that....funny I was just doing research! (Not just, it was last week)

HDE 226868

The problem with asking "What would life be like?" is that there are so many possible settings. Space stations orbiting other stars, domed colonies on planets without atmospheres, etc. Each one will have different tech, cultures, etc. So you need to pick a specific colony scenario.

Bellerophon

@FutureHistorian Off-topic.

kingledion

I am horribly compelled to spill the details, but on the other hand I did that research for future trivia of the week posts

But you know, the trivia thing hasn't gotten a lot of run, so I don't know how compelling it would be

Future Historian

After all: if the Americans have some real life contingency plan for ZOMBIES of all things, where is the official Hostile ET contingency plan?

HDE 226868

@kingledion I suspect that after Sescepitus picked the right three, the excitement died down.

kingledion

18:32

Yeah I guess so, good guessing @Secespitus

sphennings

@FutureHistorian There aren't any zombie contingency plans. Zombie preparedness was used as a marketing strategy to get people to think about actual disaster preparedness.

Future Historian

Oh.

kingledion

@HDE226868 I'll make it harder next week

Future Historian

Well, do we still have any ideas of what to do in case ET start knocking on our doorstep?

kingledion

Maybe it will be 'who are the jon skeets or worldbuilding?'

paj28

18:33

@HDE226868 - Ok. If I limit it to domed colonies, am I realistically going to get any useful input.

HDE 226868

@kingledion I'm looking forward to it.

paj28

Or should I just give up now?

Future Historian

Say....any preparations under x assumptions about how to deal with y hostile extraterrestrial species?

paj28

(cos initial feedback aint exactly encouraging)

HDE 226868

@paj28 I'd say yes. Because you've established tech levels already, which is useful.

You could ask about a specific facet of life.

Future Historian

18:34

@HDE226868? Would it be a good idea to ask about how a realistic scenario would play out in a hostile first contact situation?

Or not really?

HDE 226868

@FutureHistorian I'm trying to talk to another user. Please don't interrupt me.

Future Historian

Say....how would Earth's national armies respond and perform against a potential hostile extraterrestrial species?

Oh, sorry.

:(

sighs

Secespitus

@kingledion Yeah, I am awesome :D

Thanks

Future Historian

Well, I am trying to think of a good question.

kingledion

@paj28 The biggest thing is you have to pick something to ask about. If you just say, 'What will life be like?' then I can answer telling you all about the wonderful advances in pet care. But do you really care about pets? If not you need to narrow your topic down

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Secespitus

18:35

@kingledion Looking forward to it ;)

@kingledion Cort and Will

kingledion

@Secespitus Ahem

Secespitus

@kingledion Sorry :D

Couldn't help it

kingledion

What user has the most in a single day, week, month and quarter? :)

Future Historian

NOTE: I am going to post a reality check question, if you do not mind.

paj28

@kingledion - Ok, maybe I should just delete. I'm not sure quite what I'm asking, but I don't GAF about pet care

sphennings

18:37

@FutureHistorian How about you post it in the sandbox first.

HDE 226868

@paj28 I should also add that we have a sandbox for once you have an idea for a question. You can write it up and post it as an answer, and hopefully you could get better feedback.

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Q: Sandbox for Proposed Questions

In order to make the Sandbox easier to use, a new Sandbox question will be posted when the old one becomes too full. This Sandbox is currently active. You can check here for the full list of past and present Question Sandboxes. What is the Sandbox? This "Sandbox" is a place where Worldbuildin...

discussion questions sandbox

Future Historian

Well, just checking.

Secespitus

@kingledion I'd suspect all of that to be Will, except for daily. I think the amount of answers just made him surpass Cort in many aspects, but he doesn't get a lot of bounties, he just puts out lots of questions.

kingledion

@paj28 Exactly! So tell us what you are interested in! Thats why your question got closed, it was too broad.

sphennings

@paj28 You don't have any answers yet so you can edit it as much as you want.

kingledion

18:37

@Secespitus Actually...its me

Ho HO!

paj28

From a quick look at the sandbox, the first one I clicked doesn't have a specific question either

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Q: A post-apocalyptic industrial revolution

It's been a couple of thousand years since humanity bombed itself back to the stone age. Most places are now safe to travel through but there's barely any sign of the old cities, new ones have sprung up in their place. The population is recovering, the forests are being cut for fuel and ship buil...

society technology post-apocalypse industrial-age

sphennings

@paj28 If you care about arbitrary internet points, you'll be better off by editing the question rather than deleting it.

Secespitus

@kingledion Ah, you meant this month, this week, ...

Thought you were talking about all-time again

Future Historian

I am trying to post in the sandbox, but I cannot decide between "How would national armies perform in the event of an actual invasion of Earth?" vs "How would humanity prepare itself for hostile first contact?".

kingledion

Nope, all time. I have the single day, week, month, and quarter all time high

And I'm bragging, dangit, I told my wife I would stop taht

Secespitus

18:39

@kingledion Oh, didn't expect that. Congratulations. How did you manage to surpass Cort and Will?

paj28

Thanks for your input guys

kingledion

@paj28 Well on that one you linked, the specific question is: did we mine out too much of the stuff to have another industrial revolution?

Which is a pretty specific question, and can be answered in a fact based manner

@paj28 So tell us here, what aspects of life are you interested in? Transportation? Food? Industry?

@Secespitus Anyways, I think my question is going to be, name all users who on any day have had the highest rep earned in the last x months, where I think x will be 3.

That is only going to be 5 or 6 people

sphennings

@paj28 You may find that in the process of editing your question to make it a good fit for this site, that you have answered the question or the answer becomes just a matter of simple research.

paj28

I think my question is just inherently too broad so I have deleted it

I'd just like to ask one thing informally here:

How realistic is cryo-hibernation?

I'm coming to the conclusion that it's highly likely to be possible in the future. Can't see any show stoppers

HDE 226868

In the near future - say, within a century - I don't see anything stopping it. We've made progress in cryonics insofar as we can freeze people. The real problem is unfreezing them, which hasn't been successfully done. If we can conquer that. . . shrug Our odds are good.

kingledion

18:49

@paj28 Here is a question on the topic:

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Q: Realistic cryosleep with short or no wake-up protocol?

I read that our current method of cryonics involves replacing blood with other fluid and keeping the body submerged in liquid as well as on ice (these things being done to the dead, for now, instead of intergalactic explorers and such), and that the process of waking a person up from this sort of...

science-based technology science-fiction cryogenics

Future Historian

Done!

HDE 226868

To put it one way: The hibernating's fine. We got that. It's the waking up that's the problem.

Future Historian

Is it good or fail?

@sphennings? Another epic fail or....did I get one right this time?

Please tell me I got a good question this time.

gulps

sphennings

@FutureHistorian Before I offer any advice I want you to go over the on topic, and the don't ask pages and see how your question fits into the criteria.

Future Historian

HDE is still busy, right?

Feeds

18:53

0

A: Sandbox for Proposed Questions

How would Earth's combined military forces be able to defend against a full blown Invasion of Earth? So, I am trying to see how a real life military response would play out in the event of a hostile first contact when asking this question, so...first some context. The year is 2019, and the Jame...

sphennings

@FutureHistorian Also give your question an once over based on this checklist and see how your question ranks.

Future Historian

Oh.

sphennings

@FutureHistorian You've been around here long enough that you should be doing this before posting a question to the sandbox.

Future Historian

Oh.............oh.........

facepalms

HDE 226868

@FutureHistorian I'm going to say this once, as a mod, RO, and user of this room: When people are talking, please do not interrupt. paj28 asked a question or two; people have been discussing it and some side matters. It's annoying when someone keeps interjecting, and just because someone's not saying "Sorry, Future Historian, I don't want to talk about X" doesn't mean that they want to be pinged, or to talk about it.

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Please keep this in mind.

. . . And I didn't mean to kill the conversation. Sorry about that.

Bellerophon

19:02

@HDE226868 Mod and RO. Does that mean you can use your powers twice as fast?

Green

@Bellerophon No, it means he has two hammers.

To beat you twice as flat :)

HDE 226868

@Bellerophon It means I have Mjolnir, and a backup. I could take Thor any day. :-)

sphennings

@HDE226868 Would a backup Mjolnir be Rinlojm?

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HDE 226868

@sphennings . . . Excellent. You found a word that's harder for me to pronounce than "Mjolnir".

dot_Sp0T

@sphennings took me way too long to realize that's just Mjolnir spelled backwards

Green

19:10

@sphennings Rhin-lo-y'm. That's not too hard.

sphennings

It would need to be a tiny jeweler's hammer on a gigantic shaft.

dot_Sp0T

@Green but it should be quite hard acting as a backup to Mjolnir

kingledion

@dot_Sp0T Its not that hard to be worse than Mjolnir

Bellerophon

I never understood why the handle of Mjolnir is too short.

Couldn't the dwarves just remove the handle and make a new one?

sphennings

@dot_Sp0T Not at all. Unlike Mjolnir, Rinlojm doesn't return after it's thrown.

@Bellerophon Since it's Norse mythology it's a safe bet to just blame Loki.

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Bellerophon

19:13

@sphennings In fact, if you hold your hand out for it it will fly further away.

kingledion

@sphennings Also, with Rinlojm, everyone except Thor is worthy. Its like the hammer in Soviet Russia. Its probably the one on the flag.

@Bellerophon Did you think Thor got those forearms by wielding a well balanced hammer?

sphennings

Rinlojm the modhammer has a nice ring to it.

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James

19:35

agreed

Green

19:46

So apparently, Rinlojm is a real thing. At one point Thor was a mummy and had a different hammer (or some junk).

marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Thor_Odinson_(Earth-666)

James

@Green ok thats weird...

Green

@James Marvel Universe is a very very big place.

James

20:29

Apparently.

AndyD273

21:09

Stories get hard when you have to keep them going year after year for 56 years.

James

@AndyD273 No doubt

AndyD273

21:25

I'm kinda looking forward to the Marvel phase 4; retiring some of the current heroes and bringing in new characters to build stories around. I like the current heroes, but eventually they'd have to replace the actors, and that would be sad.

James

I mourn the day that Robert Downy Jr won't be able to play Iron Man anymore...he seriously makes those movies...

HDE 226868

22:29

@James The man is immortal! The franchise must never end.

(Actually, I haven't seen any of the Iron Man movies.)

dot_Sp0T

@HDE226868 oh boy, you're in for an amazing treat, believe me

HDE 226868

@dot_Sp0T That's what most of my friends tell me.

dot_Sp0T

@HDE226868 the first one was and is very very good, and the others follow up amazingly good as well

HDE 226868

Good sequels? I'm impressed.

dot_Sp0T

@HDE226868 I mean, especially for the fact that they are sequels.

Usually they milk the franchise, but in this case the sequels added to the franchise even

HDE 226868

22:43

Do they share the same story arc, or do they stand on their own?

dot_Sp0T

well, that's a difficult assessment for the marvel franchise as it has become of late. They do a really well job doing the good thing comics did. Thus:
There is one big story-line over all marvel movies
There are story-lines for each character/component (such as Iron Man, Thor, The Guardians of the Galaxy)
There is, so far in my experience, a closed story-arc in each movie. So it's not like e.g. LotR where 3 movies make up one story - it's rather 3 movies, 3 stories that progress the character
There are, in the meanwhile, a number of mashups that started with The Avengers movies and have no…

that's the best I can do to answer that Q

HDE 226868

@dot_Sp0T Nice answer. Thank you.

dot_Sp0T

I gotta admit that I am biased because I like comics and they did a very good job on making films based on comics compared to the old attempts at X-Men, Spiderman and The Incredible Hulks back in 2k by Vox (and co?)

Shalvenay

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hey there @kingledion @sphennings @James

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