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In that case, forget giving Sikes prior combat experience; he is probably just getting new recruits into shape back in Camp Horno before the Invasion anyway.
At least when he gets the rank of Sergeant.
There are marines fighting ISIS. Could he not get combat experience in a conflict like that.
Well, he could.........except:
Special Purpose Marine Air-Ground Task Force – Crisis Response – Central Command (SP-MAGTF-CR-CC) is a Marine Air-Ground Task Force that is based at an undisclosed location in Southwest Asia. It is a self-mobile, self-sustaining force of Marines and sailors, capable of responding to a range of crises. The unit is specifically trained to support U.S. and partner interests throughout the United States Central Command area of responsibility, to include embassy reinforcement, support to noncombatant evacuation operations, tactical recovery of aircraft and personnel, humanitarian assistance, and disaster...
And he is with the 1st Marine Regiment. Specifically, 2nd Battalion, 1st Marines.
Hmmmmmm. Wait one moment.
Hmmmmmmm.
This task force appears to be constantly rotating between units.
Who knows? Perhaps Sgt. Sikes' 2nd Battalion, 1st Marines is among the lucky ones.
:P
21:27
Lucky to fight or lucky not to?
Lucky to end up joining on the shooting ISIL in the face fun.
:P
Considering how long it takes to get up in rank, he could have served in the Middle East fighting the Taliban in Afghanistan and Iraq.
That makes sense.
So your on the 'war is a glorious and worthwhile endeavour end' of the scale then?
No.
Of course not.
If anything, the point is basically to give him EVEN MORE PTSD on this scene than he already has.
The kinetic bombardment part, that is.
21:34
Given how much you ask about how to make it happen that is a little surprising, heh.
Well, the PTSD from his earlier years is actually not as severe by 2024.
By that, I mean, he can manage it.
Then.....well, the Invasion happened.
:P
So, @FerretCivilization? How many tours do you recommend for this one?
Three? Four?
What?
Hmmmmmmm. I wonder if at the age of 51, someone is already a little too old to keep on fighting in the Armed Forces.
In general, not just the American one.
@FerretCivilization? Too old at the age of 51 by 2034 or not really?
First question, that is the average so sure it would work.
Second question, for the US, depends on when they enlisted. But if they were still fit there would not be a problem if they got in before the cap.
Well, he enlisted just two months after 9/11.
:P
So, does that mean he is a little too old by 2034, even though America no longer exists?
He enlisted at 15?
Or has his birthday not happened yet.
Never mind, I can't do maths.
No.
He was born in 1983.
So...........sort of.
Sorry. I decided to retcon the original birth dates.
Date of Birth: 19th of September of 1983.
So, he was already 18 days after 9/11.
I am thinking he probably lost his uncle in the 9/11 attacks, which sort of.......served to motivate him.
:P
Well, he and his parents lived in San Diego, but....you know. His father's brother moved to New York City and when 9/11 happened........well, RIP.
And the last time he saw his uncle was in 1999.
Probably him getting a new job at the World Trade Centre and cut short by 9/11.
21:52
How bad was 9/11 at the time?
For him?
Well, 3,000 dead.
His uncle being among them.
Were many people directly affected or was it mostly the shock of it that made it famous?
A bit of both.
On the one hand, 3,000 people lost their lives, many of which had families but on the other hand.....it was the long-term psychological blow.
Sikes' uncle is among the dead.
So, I have two versions of what happened to Sikes' uncle. #1: United Airlines Flight 93 and him dying in the crash. #2: Him getting killed in the South Tower.
I am leaning towards the South Tower death, but at the same time, United Airlines Flight 93 death is also an interesting one for his nephew's backstory.
It depends what you want Sikes' motivation to be. Revenge, protection of his family, or trying to love up/inspired by his uncle.
Out of interest, who is your target audience?
Well, generally speaking, mature audiences.
:P
As in: this is NOT meant children.
22:05
Obviously, but are you aiming adult or young adult?
Especially when describing scenes full of blood, gore and other kind of things such as the smell of decay from human bodies when parents read this stuff.
Not to mention the occasional human rights violations by both the Resistance and the GPI in the series.
Especially the deliberate targeting of civilians by some Resistance groups.
And the massacres of non-GPI settlements by GPI forces.
Meh, human rights violation and political commentary is trendy in young adults books. It lets the authors think they're being clever and original.
As in: shoot everything in sight, and basically, I actually had them involving the murder of young children and even infants, and possibly a rape situation that will be implied.
So.........
Either that or just go ahead and describe that scene.
Still, NOT a recipe for young adults either when it comes to such scenes.
Still, these should ALL have meaning.
So, if a rape scene is there, it has to affect other characters in the process.
Probably not a young adults' book.
For example: I actually had planned out for Pillay to witness some GPI soldiers raping a prisoner post-interrogation, which is possibly not a good sign for his future as part of Section 15.
gulps
@Bellerophon. Precisely my point.
I am NOT going to appeal to young adults like every trendy author does these days.
Trend =/= eternal.
22:11
Sounds like the Vietnam War with aliens.
About that.
:P
@Bellerophon. Kind of a mix of some other conflicts.
But mostly Vietnam and possibly Afghanistan, but with extraterrestrials.
Hmmmmmm. I wonder if the Soviets in Afghanistan committed similar or worse atrocities.
No idea. I would guess yes because everyone commits atrocities but I don't know.
Vietnam is pretty much the limit of my pre-2008 conflicts knowledge.
The Soviet–Afghan War lasted over nine years, from December 1979 to February 1989. Insurgent groups known as the mujahideen fought against the Soviet Army and the Democratic Republic of Afghanistan government, mostly in the country's rural countryside. The mujahideen groups were backed by the United States and Pakistan, making it a Cold War proxy war. Between 562,000 and 2,000,000 civilians were killed and millions of Afghans fled the country as refugees, mostly to Pakistan and Iran. Prior to the arrival of Soviet troops, the communist People's Democratic Party of Afghanistan took power after a...
Found it.
:P
And..........it is worse than I thought.
Typical army. Murder, rape and pillage. Any realistic army should take part in at least two in a widespread way.
Well, at least the massacres part on the Soviets' end was not as systematic as the GPI's, which meant HUNTING DOWN ANY SURVIVORS FROM SETTLEMENTS.
:P
As in: they literally exterminated entire settlements and left them empty of human life.
If anyone survived such an attack, they would have to know to hide VERY carefully.
And orbital dominance makes that difficult, hmmmmm?
22:19
Hide under corpses is usually the best chance you have. Insulates your body heat. The only problem is if they burn the corpses.
This conversation has gotten quite dark.
I'm hoping no new users have arrived, read this and run away.
Same.
:P
@Bellerophon? So, traffic jam + kinetic bombardment = how hard is it for a Ford F-150 to move?
And NOTE: I was thinking that during this scene, he takes the exit from the I-5 N Bypass and then gets hit by a California National Guard Humvee, and regain consciousness when the dust clears above San Diego and Visitor forces descend on the city.
22:38
In a city it would be likely be slower than running. On motorways maybe a little quicker depending on traffic.
Just before the rods fall, these are his coordinates: 32.92692,-117.24.
@Bellerophon? So, around that location, you think he can take the exit and just as he is about to turn, get slammed upon by a passing Humvee?
NOTE: It has to impact him in a way that knocks him unconscious, BUT keeps him alive for the moment.
I have no idea. I've never visited the area.
So, is that scene plausible within a real world context or.......?
I mean, car crashes happen so I guess yes.
It is California, no way he is moving fast on the Highway, natives to the area know this, heh.
22:45
I know. But that is the thing. I need to know if he can get out of there in the first place during the panic?
@FerretCivilization? Just how hard is it for him to get slammed by a California National Guard Humvee during his attempt to try and get off the I-5 N?
Or even get out of there anyway?
If he took the highway no.
Well, he is in the bypass anyway.
And next to one of the exits.
So.......you think he could get out of there on an F-150 or will he have to get out by foot?
So, how hard is that?
I'd consider the bypass part of the highway, it is just a crowded most the time.
And as the kinetic rods fall.......let me guess: even worse than usual?
Because that traffic jam was before that.
What happens as the rods fall and people start to panic?
Besides the "panic" part.
Probably, and death for the most part.
22:55
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@FerretCivilization? Plan B for getting Sikes out of there?
Simply take the back roads out of there.
Well, he is already on the highway, so from here, how to get out?
Hmmmmmm.
Wait a minute.
Nevermind.
If he was already on the highway he would pretty much have to take whatever happens.
Well, there is an exit nearby.
Oh wait.
Right. Traffic jam here is worse than normal at this point.
gulps
Well, time to find a way to knock him unconscious somehow.
Without killing him, that is.
23:12
Why not a car crash?
I did go with a car crash.
But since a Humvee will not do, then fine.
I will find a different car to slam onto him.
I'd say an over pressure wave being close enough to blow in the windows on him would do the trick for him and most people on the highway.
Just say a car hit him. No one will care what car it is.
Unless you plan for the car to come back as a plot point later.
True.
@FerretCivilization? How much in kPa to knock him unconscious?
Because I am not sure 1.7 or 6.9 kPa is enough to knock him unconscious.
Within the 6.9 to 13.7 to blow in the windows and pass out from that, not the pressure wave alone.
23:19
Oh.
That makes sense.
It would be the same force as getting hit by another car that would cause someone to pass out from a thing like whiplash.
Thank you!
And question: about those windows getting cracked, can he hear the impact before that?
Also allows you to say there is a traffic jam yet avoid somehow having a speeding vehicle on the road.
And no, the impact and the windows blowing inward happen around the same time.
23:33
Now, how long before he wakes up?
Or do you think a V-22 passing by would wake him up early?
Mainly because.......well, at least the drones can handle them, since the Marine Corps Air Station in Camp Pendleton does not have any fighters.
They do have attack helicopters, though.
But again: they would get easily shot down anyway.
Maybe when it comes to being knocked out and waking up for anything it is all variables.
Well, I will see if a passing V-22 will wake him up.
And......how long for those drones and transports to finish their descent through the atmosphere anyway?
How fast do they descend?
Well, remember: drones = Mach 8.
Transports, somewhere around Mach 9 - 12.
And that is just while in the upper atmosphere.
:P
And the Visitors can survive being dropped that fast? In that case.
23:38
No.
This is just transports making reentry.
Besides, most of the initial force is just.......well, robotic units.
@FerretCivilization? I just realised something.
Mach 8 is for the drones.
Most Visitor forces in that initial wave are robotic, with the exception of commanding ofifcers and SpecOps units, and possibly a few regiments of regular infantry.
@FerretCivilization? How fast do you recommend those transports to begin descent on the planet?
500 seconds for a Transport to go from 1,500 km to 0 km sea level at 9 Mach.
366 seconds for it to go from the same heights at 12 Mach.
And are those transports like fully reusable versions of the space shuttles or are they just drop pods?
Because the drop pods are for Special Forces. The shuttles, I was thinking is most of the Visitor force.
So, how fast can they REALLY land?
As in: how much delta-v do you think they will have before reentry?
@FerretCivilization? Just how much delta-v could a realistic fully resuable shuttle have?
I am going to make those engines dual mode as well, and use a similar system as the drones.
:P
Well take the base time and add to it for acceleration and deceleration.
And as much as you want?
The Lockheed Martin X-33 was an unmanned, sub-scale technology demonstrator suborbital spaceplane developed in the 1990s under the U.S. government-funded Space Launch Initiative program. The X-33 was a technology demonstrator for the VentureStar orbital spaceplane, which was planned to be a next-generation, commercially operated reusable launch vehicle. The X-33 would flight-test a range of technologies that NASA believed it needed for single-stage-to-orbit reusable launch vehicles (SSTO RLVs), such as metallic thermal protection systems, composite cryogenic fuel tanks for liquid hydrogen, the...
Is this possible to convert into a manned version?
And one capable of carrying troops from orbit and towards a planet's surface?
If you want to.
23:47
Fair enough.
I am just wondering about specifications.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
@FerretCivilization? Which works as a more plausible model for a transport spacecraft capable of delivering troops from orbit, to the surface of a planet and back up again?
You have:
The Boeing X-37, also known as the Orbital Test Vehicle (OTV), is a reusable uncrewed spacecraft. It is boosted into space by a launch vehicle, then re-enters Earth's atmosphere and lands as a spaceplane. The X-37 is operated by the United States Air Force for orbital spaceflight missions intended to demonstrate reusable space technologies. It is a 120%-scaled derivative of the earlier Boeing X-40. The X-37 began as a NASA project in 1999, before being transferred to the U.S. Department of Defense in 2004. Its first flight was during a drop test in 2006. There have been five X-37 orbital missions...
The Rockwell X-30 was an advanced technology demonstrator project for the National Aero-Space Plane (NASP), part of a United States project to create a single-stage-to-orbit (SSTO) spacecraft and passenger spaceliner. It was cancelled in the early 1990s before a prototype was completed, although much development work in advanced materials and aerospace design was completed. While a goal of a future NASP was a passenger liner capable of two-hour flights from Washington to Tokyo, the X-30 was planned for a crew of two and oriented towards testing. == Development == The NASP concept is thought to...
And this as alternate proposals for a base model.
@FerretCivilization? Your recommendation for the base model?
Seems like even though the Rockwell never saw existence, at least the base planned for passengers. The Boeing there would need more to change to make it work.
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