The Factory Floor

DaaaahWhoosh

02:31

@AndyD273 I just want to say before I forget, I have been reading The Name of the Wind, and am greatly enjoying it. I wish to thank you for the recommendation.

Worldbuilding Meta

03:31

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Q: Space flight vs space ships?

There are tags for spaceflight and spaceships. Many questions are tagged with both. I think this is confusing; people might use one or the other and questions don’t show up as a uniform category. Many use both; if reaching the limit you’ll have to leave off one. Should they be merged, or what?

bilbo_pingouin

05:34

morning

JDługosz

07:23

Wow, you never know what answer the masses will like, vote-wise! The coconut thing I thought was stupid and answered just to teach how to figure things out like that (read the wikipedia page and do some arithmetic).

BTW I learned how to spell that in 3rd grade: A rat in the house might eat the isc cream! complete with an illustration on the chalk board.

dot_Sp0T

07:43

Hello

Mast

10:20

@DaaaahWhoosh At least you got some spare after you rubbed some.

in The 2nd Monitor, Feb 24 at 15:12, by Pimgd

Green

12:23

@Shalvenay Maybe they have the kind of hydrophobic coating that lotus leaves have. Their scales are so slick that dirt can't even stick to them.

Sky

13:02

I'm gonna throw a small question here as it might not be about worldbuilding. Could magnetism be used in melee weapons? I can't think of any way to have magnetism based close ranged weaponry.

Green

@Sky The only way I could think of it being used is as an electromagnetic accelerator to make a blunt trauma weapon (such as a hammer) hit that much harder. However, this approach requires precise timing and high amperage power supplies.

In the head of the hammer there's a giant coil that induces a magnetic field normal to the face of the hammer. When the hammer sense that impact is imminent, the coil energizes, pulling the hammer towards the enemy armor. Depending on user preference, perhaps the hammer stays attached for a fraction of a second.

This approach isn't possible with typical medieval tech levels. We could build one now, certainly.

Another use of magnetism would be as a fouling agent on enemy armor. If the magnet is stuck across a joint, it may impair movement.

Sky

@Green would the magnetic force add to the force someone placed into swinging the hammer?

Green

@Sky I think so.

Journeyman Geek

You could use it to 'aim' a flail type weapon

Green

@Sky What would be really fun though, is to use induction heating to cook the enemy in their armor. If you're already putting power electronics in your weapons, make a kind of limpet mine that uses induction to super-heat the enemies armor.

Dang, what a gruesome way to go. Cooked to death by your own armor.

Journeyman Geek

13:16

@Green 0_0

or just use it for localised heating, then blow through it.

Green

@JourneymanGeek Yep. That's some proper WB s*** right there. HAAHAH!

Journeyman Geek

@Green wouldn't be more efficient than a chemical heating weapon tho

Green

@JourneymanGeek Wouldn't shaped charges be more useful though?

Journeyman Geek

say something like thermite

Green

@JourneymanGeek That'd be fun too!

Journeyman Geek

13:17

@Green assuming the shaped charges could punch through

Sky

@JourneymanGeek I doubt they won't.

Green

@JourneymanGeek Shaped charges will punch through WW2 tank armor with ease. I'm not worried about the armor that a knight would wear.

Journeyman Geek

@Green there's tricks tho...

maybe a medival version of chicken-wire anti RPG appliques..

or heck, paper armour

the greeks did it

Sky

@Green so someone could conceivable disable all the Knights equipment?

Green

@JourneymanGeek HAHAHHAHAHH!!! Yes, chicken wire would help.

@Sky With simple medieval level tech? Yes, if they were really really careful about it.

Journeyman Geek

13:19

I mean, sure, you would look odd but I'm sure having your enemies laughing so hard they can't see straight

@Green would only really work on iron plate tho

Green

@JourneymanGeek No one was using copper plate or bronze plate. Was anyone using anything other than iron/steel during that period?

Journeyman Geek

@Green well, plate mail was likely for the rich

Sky

Chain mail?

Journeyman Geek

you'd have had people in leather armour, or normal clothes fighting

Green

That's still iron though.

Nex Terren

13:21

Gooood morning!

Green

@JourneymanGeek Ah good point. I was envisioning knight to knight combat, not knight to commoner combat.

Sup @NexTerren!

Sky

Is there even any point in leather armour? I feel like I might as well wear paper

Journeyman Geek

Do not underestimate the sneaky gits.

Nex Terren

@Sky Padding or dull blades.

Journeyman Geek

@Sky leather's actually pretty good in many cases, treated correctly

Linothorax

The linothorax (pronounced /ˈliːnoʊθɔːræks/) is a type of upper body armor used by the Ancient Greek States, as well as other Hellenic kingdoms including Macedonia, from the Mycenaean Helladic Period through the Hellenistic Period. The modern term linothorax is based on the Greek λινοθώραξ, which is an adjective meaning "wearing a breastplate of linen"; the actual ancient term for this type of armour is unclear. The term "thorax" was the word for breastplate during this era and was traditionally made of metal in most contexts. The experiments of "linothorax" were made of linen glued in layers with...

paper armour?

Sky

13:22

Really? I saw a few weapon documentaries where the weapons just teared right through.

Journeyman Geek

and you'd be able to move a LOT more freely in light armour

Nex Terren

I mean assuming we're talking Middle-Ages Europe (since it's often used as a baseline), what part? During the Barbarian era warfare was rather... crude. Dull and chipped blades were certainly not uncommon.

Sky

Ah that's true.

Nex Terren

13:36

I won't continue over there, @Sky (don't want to get too chatty in the comments) but it's true that peace-lovers are too often disregarded in both fiction and real life. In fiction they often don't even seem to make appearances, except in lip service. Of course I don't like it on the other hand where peace-lovers rip those who defend others a new one and then are praised as heroes.

Sky

I wonder if it's feasible to have a javelin that can thrown and returned via magnetism. Is it possible? Something that can pull back that javelin would probably attract every neutral object within a 3 m radius.

Nex Terren

@Sky I'd say that's a good call about the problem with pulling it back with magnetism.

Hm. What else could you do...

Green

@Sky I'd say not really.

Nex Terren

@Sky I saw something to me very briefly but then you deleted it!

Sky

@NexTerren it seems truly impractical to try to have a peaceful world

I messed up my sentence

:D

Nex Terren

13:38

@Sky Gotcha.

Well, we can likely achieve upwards to peace just not reach it entirely. Like reducing automobile accidents to zero; we can't do that (even with self-driving cars) but we can certainly take steps to near zero accidents. As we should take steps.

Of course the easiest way to reduce the accidents to zero would be to remove all cars, but that wouldn't be something we'd want...

Sky

Oh wait. I just realized that the a magnetic hammer might be able to pull the guy in armor towards the hammer as well. That might be diastrous for the poor soul.

Nex Terren

@Sky Quite!

Sky

@NexTerren I once thought that to solve global warming, we had to remove all cars. Then I start using one.

Nex Terren

Guessing you can't handwave it as magic, and you really want/need the hammer to return to his hand?

Sky

No, I was thinking about having some form of magnetic melee weapon but doesn't have to return to the hand. The robot wielding it can probably get an extra one in a few seconds

Nex Terren

13:44

@Sky Well if we can A) build up alternative energy power sources and B) significantly improve battery technology, we can start moving to electric instead of gasoline/diesel. I imagine air traffic will be slower to move (since refined oil has a fantastic energy-to-weight ratio) but that's pocket change compared to cars/trucks, so we won't have to worry about that. Oil will continue to be extracted in some manner for plastics and rubber...

Sky

@NexTerren I read a science book which said we would run out of oil around 2050-2060. I have no hope in the world to turn to alt energy sources until it's too late really.

Nex Terren

So what I've read was that before fracking and horizontal drilling were discovered we were going to run out fairly soon, but with them combined we'll run out in 40-60 years, give or take. Of course if fracking becomes illegal, that number will sharply be reduced.

We need nuclear power sooner than later. It's a shame it's gotten such a bad rap from the few fools who tried it before.

DaaaahWhoosh

who's going to make fracking illegal?

Sky

Well, I won't feel safe if a certain neighboring country of mine tried it on their own. One nuclear meltdown and that would be 1 more country with a nuclear accident and 1 dead island country with no survivors.

Nex Terren

@Sky "You say a medieval world isn't full of crappy political struggles? How nice!" Hahaha, too much Game of Thrones?

@DaaaahWhoosh Well Oklahoma State ordered 31 fracking sites to be shut down just last week after the Earthquake. It certainly could happen.

Sky

13:55

@NexTerren I actually haven't watched Game of Thrones, was that a reference?

Nex Terren

@Sky Game of Thrones (book series and show) are basically the epitome of what you described, almost comedically so. I haven't watched/read them either, but I have heard about them at length.

Sky

@NexTerren I do know what it. Thought part of what I said is due to a biased view

on political stuff and the nobility and royalty thing

Good night people

Nex Terren

@Sky Night.

Take care.

James

14:42

Whats up peoples?

Nex Terren

@James Excited about the podcast.

@James Have a main topic in mind?

dot_Sp0T

hellohoo

Nex Terren

Hello, .0

James

@NexTerren Well the original plan was to chat about what got us all into WB in the first place.

Nex Terren

@James Riiiight, I had forgotten.

James

14:55

And I think I may change the warm-up conversation to "If you had one magical ability what would it be?"

Clearly I would be able to shoot fireballs out of my hand...cause...well...fireballs.

DaaaahWhoosh

telekinesis would be pretty nice

I don't think I'd be able to throw fireballs in my apartment, but there's often things just out of reach that I need to stand up to grab

Nex Terren

Summon Bigger Fish!

AndyD273

@DaaaahWhoosh Glad you're enjoying the book! It's a bit of a double edged sword, since the author is taking way to long to finish the third book. Not GRRM levels yet, but still... I really like the magic system that he has set up for it.

DaaaahWhoosh

@AndyD273 yeah, so far I'm liking how the magic is so weak, you need to be smart to use it well

though I was hoping there weren't going to be sequels...

Nex Terren

15:12

@AndyD273 How about Duke Nukem levels?

James

Whatre you reading?

DaaaahWhoosh

@James The Name of the Wind

good book, so far

James

Is that like Gone with the wind? cause I don't really feel like reading anything like that.

Title wise, Gone with the Wind could totally be a sequel.

Like. She met the wind. And it was a crazy summer of love. But then things get real and her dad gets mad and bans them from meeting, but then the wind is all I'm wind, and its the 1800's so I know your place isn't wind proof so she and the wind decide to run away together and it gets all dramatic where she climbs to the top of a light house or something to meet the wind and her dad shows up with a shotgun...then she jumps off and the wind takes her away

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Nex Terren

@James If you make me laugh like this at work I'll get fired.

James

15:27

Just turn the snorting/laughter into a cough

AndyD273

@DaaaahWhoosh Yeah, basically the inn keeper/main character is telling his life story to the writer over the course of 3 days. The first book is the first day, the second book is the second day, and the upcoming book is the third day and conclusion.

DaaaahWhoosh

@AndyD273 yeah, I just realized that I'm nearing the end and I think it's just about dinnertime. Kvothe must talk really fast

AndyD273

When you get caught up to the end of book two let me know. I really like the story, and I want to talk to someone about a couple things, but no one else I know has/will read it... Being the only real sci-fi/fantasy fan in my group is a bit of a burden.

DaaaahWhoosh

@AndyD273 I can't promise it won't take a long time for me to get there, but depending on how the first one ends I might read the sequel before starting Green Mars

AndyD273

It's fine. I read them several years ago now. I've been waiting this long

And Green Mars is good too. I usually try to break up epic story series just to give my brain a chance to rest.

Nex Terren

15:38

I have now committed to a ~50 hour audio book at the request of a friend. Anyone hear of The Way of Kings?

AndyD273

Yeah. Is that Brandon Sanderson?

I haven't read it yet, but I've enjoyed the other books of his that I've read.

Nex Terren

Mkay, that's good to hear.

AndyD273

I'm currently working my way currently through Charles Stross' "Merchant Princes" series which I'm really enjoying too. Making staining the deck a bit more tolerable. It's one of the few series where I've finished the first book and moved on to the second without a pallet cleanser in between.

DaaaahWhoosh

I think what I need is some one-off books. Pretty much everything I've read recently has had at least one sequel

AndyD273

16:04

hmm... how about something that is in a series that can also stand on it's own?

DaaaahWhoosh

eh, maybe. I guess that's the best of both worlds

AndyD273

actually... Have you read 14 by Peter Clines?

DaaaahWhoosh

nope, you think I should?

AndyD273

It's a stand alone book that doesn't end in a cliff hanger, though there is another story set in the same universe, it doesn't have any of the same characters except for one very small cameo.

Read the synopsis, but it's a otherworldy mystery in the spirit of Lost, with some Lovecraftian undertones.

I liked it, and it gets recommended frequently on the audiobooks.reddit.com sub.

DaaaahWhoosh

well, I guess it'd be as good as any book to try in audio format

I still haven't tried that yet

AndyD273

16:19

Haven't tried audiobooks? It's currently my preferred method of reading, mostly because if I sat down to actually read a book I'd be hounded all over the place by people wanting my attention and for me to do stuff. With audiobooks I can do those things and still get some reading in. Plus it makes dull tasks a lot better. Also commuting.

DaaaahWhoosh

yeah, I've been making some gloves for HEMA sparring, and lately I've had to choose between them and reading, it'd be great to do both

AndyD273

Only down side, figuring out how to spell peoples names. I'd have to look up how to spell Kvothe for instance

James

Data structure meetings are painful...

AndyD273

@James You should try audiobooks. Makes boring things much more enjoyable.

DaaaahWhoosh

@AndyD273 I have the opposite problem, I can spell the names but I don't know how to pronounce them

Kvothe even said how to pronounce his, but I've forgotten

James

16:25

@AndyD273 Yes I am sure headphones during meetings would be well received.

Besides, I am still trying to figure out how to personify the wind.

I am leaning toward naming the wind Eduardo

AndyD273

I was actually going to go with Reginald...

James

Technically there are four winds...so Eduardo could be the south wind, I'd say Reginald would probably be the west wind

AndyD273

If I was ever going to go with a body tech implant, I'd get a wireless bone conductive headphone implanted.

James

and I would stream Brittney spears into your brain until it exploded.

AndyD273

Only if you knew the pairing code, which I'd take to my grave.

James

16:31

that can be hacked

AndyD273

Plus a lot of the time you have to do something to the device itself, and I think I'd notice if you walked up and grabbed my head to put it into pairing mode.

James

...depends on what you are listening to ;)

AndyD273

And I'm pretty sure no jury would convict me for Brittany Spears related man slaughter

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James

I can't argue with that.

dot_Sp0T

alloha

Nex Terren

16:41

Hey, .0

AndyD273

olleh

Nex Terren

@AndyD273 Is that a "goodbye?"

dot_Sp0T

How are you today?

AndyD273

@NexTerren Oh, I thought his was

Like, hey, you just got here, why are you leaving?

Nex Terren

@dot_Sp0T How? Well, it was 27 years ago, some time in the early Spring. As I understand my mother and father had something to do with it.

dot_Sp0T

16:45

@NexTerren You know, there is that song.. First of may... First of may.. Outdoor.....

Nex Terren

@dot_Sp0T I do not actually know this song.

dot_Sp0T

@NexTerren believe me you do not want to

AndyD273

First of May, Jonathan Coulton

dot_Sp0T

I am actually more interested in sth completely different. You lasses and lads here represent some quite broad demographic, thus I wanted to ask what laptop/tablet-computer you would recommend me to acquire

AndyD273

What do you want to do with it?

And what's your budget?

dot_Sp0T

16:49

@AndyD273 the same things I did with my last one: Excessive coding, Terrible drawing with a touch pen, browsing Worldbuilding se, watching movies, using it for class (e.g. designing PCBs), take it anywhere, work on the bus/train, do some writing, some lightweight videogaming, stuff like that

Budget would be no more than some 2.5k

AndyD273

How do you feel about the Microsoft Surface Book? Has pretty much all the features you want, including a (reportedly) nice pen input, and works as a tablet or laptop

Nex Terren

@AndyD273 That is a very, very sexy machine. Overpriced, though.

dot_Sp0T

I'm currently thinking about either the Surface Pro 4 or the Surface Book actually; had previously a Surface Pro 3 which I had a guarantee case on, they can't fix it, got the full original price credited..; Now I need a new device and was hoping for some different angles

AndyD273

digitaltrends.com/laptop-reviews/microsoft-surface-book-review

dot_Sp0T

Also I want to ask a question about Angle Angels now

Like: If Christian Angels were heavily geometric creatures, what would permit them to have more than 3 Angles?

AndyD273

16:55

@NexTerren He has the budget for it, and you're gonna be hard pressed to find a laptop with a quality drawing input for a lot less

Nex Terren

@dot_Sp0T I don't even know how to begin answering that question.

AndyD273

@dot_Sp0T If they were 4th dimentional

Nex Terren

@dot_Sp0T I guess if they were pyramids?

AndyD273

or higher

Nex Terren

Pyramids have 4 angles.

dot_Sp0T

16:55

@NexTerren that IS the most beautiful answer I ever heard

Nex Terren

@AndyD273 Indeed. I mean if you have the cash to burn it's my favorite laptop on the market currently.

dot_Sp0T

@AndyD273 Yeah, either the book or the pro probably

Nex Terren

Even ignoring the pen input.

@dot_Sp0T I don't think the Pro supports drawing-level pen input if that's what you're going for. It's like... 1/4 the number of pressure levels of the normal Wacom drawing tablets?

Book is better, but I can't remember by how much better.

dot_Sp0T

@NexTerren idk that; I mean I had to update the NTrig drivers on the pro3 anyways, but it did the job and I had no need for more granularity

AndyD273

Which is pretty much a requirement of their job. A higher dimentional being would be able to move around outside of our 3+1 dimentions without being observed, unless they want to interact with us.

My main thought is the keyboard, since you mention coding

Nex Terren

16:58

@dot_Sp0T Well never mind me then! This is second-hand from reading tech articles.

dot_Sp0T

Yeah the keyboard is currently an issue; bc the store where I got the money credited only offers QWERTZ

AndyD273

I haven't tried coding on one of the touch cover, but it seems like real buttons would be better if you need to do a lot of typing... THough you had a 3 so you'd know better

dot_Sp0T

and I prefer QWERTY

the surface pro's touch cover is sufficient for coding

the main thing is the size

13'5" is just sweeter than 12"

AndyD273

Where do you find a QWERTZ keyboard?

dot_Sp0T

CH

German speakers :)

AndyD273

17:01

Ah, k

Can they special order you a QWERTY?

dot_Sp0T

I'm about to find out; I mean since I requested QWERTY touch covers for the SP3 two years back they started stocking these and it seems they are bought by others as well

so idk

issue is that the Book is sold with the keyuboard unit, not separately

AndyD273

Hmm, well, I hopefully they can order you what you want. I mean, it doesn't seem like it should be hard if they can get the right kind of touch covers, but stranger things have happened.

dot_Sp0T

Well yeah

Since I started coding it has become pretty normal for me to only use US-Int keyboard. Way easier to use

HDE 226868

17:17

@MolbOrg While I'm flattered to have just received Worldbuilding's first 500-point bounty, I think it might have been better if you had waited a bit to award it. There were still two days left, and other answers might have come - and I've been working on a major edit to my answer.

AndyD273

@HDE226868 You can still post it...

Can you message someone in chat if they haven't been on chat in a while?

DaaaahWhoosh

@AndyD273 mods can

HDE 226868

@AndyD273 Oh, of course I will. I just wanted to point out that my answer wasn't that good yet.

Uncle Tres

What are we talking about?

HDE 226868

@AndyD273 I can mod superping someone for you if it's related to moderation purposes.

AndyD273

17:44

@HDE226868 I don't need to, I just was curious if worked that way. Makes sense that mods can, though I'd love to have a way to send a message to someone in a less public way.

There have been a few times when I've wanted to message something to someone that didn't use chat, but wasn't question related

It could still be visible to mods to reduce abuse

Nex Terren

If we start a private chatroom with them, are they notified in that case?

DaaaahWhoosh

@NexTerren sounds like something that can be easily tested

dot_Sp0T

Private chatroom should notify iirc

Nex Terren

But it has to be with somebody who doesn't partake in the chat.

So it can't be one of us.

So I have to randomly ambush somebody on WB.

Uncle Tres

We need a sacrifice

AndyD273

17:51

Bowlturner? Haven't seen him in forever...

Uncle Tres

@AndyD273 no, he's important. As the top 1% we need to choose one of the weak ones

AndyD273

Do we really need to include the peasants in this?

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DaaaahWhoosh

what about AndreiROM? Haven't seen him in chat in a while

Nex Terren

@AndyD273 Wot, wot. Sips tea

dot_Sp0T

Actually besides Whoosh @ HDE I cannot see anyone from the old guard

AndyD273

17:53

I am kinda getting a chuckle reading the starred comments from bottom to top... almost reads like a story

DaaaahWhoosh

@dot_Sp0T wait, what old guard am I a part of?

AndyD273

I've been around about that long

DaaaahWhoosh

yeah, I think Andy predates me.

dot_Sp0T

@DaaaahWhoosh the pre-graduation bunch

my bad then

AndyD273

I don't really care... It's not like recognition matters... I'm not mad...

Nex Terren

17:55

David Z

I've been watching this with interest and I'm now very curious about just how the ducks are involved

AndyD273

Are those the hacking ducks?

Nex Terren

@DavidZ He speaks!

A week or two ago I was trying to figure out if you actually talked in chat or were a phantom that haunted WBing.

DaaaahWhoosh

@NexTerren well now you've scared him away again

Nex Terren

@DaaaahWhoosh It's a natural result.

David Z

18:01

@NexTerren yeah, I think I noticed that

I only seem to be always here because I run a chat bot that keeps me logged in all the time

Uncle Tres

David Z, the watcher. Fear him or perish at the hands of Glarnak

HDE 226868

@MolbOrg Okay, maybe now my answer's bounty-worthy. But I still haven't addressed the question of how the laser would change things.

Nex Terren

@HDE226868 You have high standards.

Uncle Tres

@NexTerren or you have low standards, Pheasant

Yes, I do mean the bird

Nex Terren

Squak.

HDE 226868

18:07

@NexTerren I've done better.

Nex Terren

@HDE226868 I feel that's a weak argument. Usain Bolt didn't turn down the gold just because it wasn't his PR.

DaaaahWhoosh

@UncleTres I've never seen such a fowl insult in this chat

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Uncle Tres

@DaaaahWhoosh get out

Nex Terren

@DaaaahWhoosh That's terrible and I have no words.

DaaaahWhoosh

I have no egrets

James

18:11

@dot_Sp0T I am probably the oldest regular user, I was in the first group to help define the site on area 51. The whole thing was actually briefly closed by one of the mods over there.

Nex Terren

@DaaaahWhoosh i.imgur.com/OG2hHwW.jpg

@James You old fogey.

James

I know right

also I haven't heard the word fogey in a really really long time.

Nex Terren

@James And technically that statement remains true.

James

heh

Uncle Tres

I go!

James

18:14

@DaaaahWhoosh ugh.

DaaaahWhoosh

this chat needs moa puns

Nex Terren

@James Forgive me if the answer is "yes" but did we decide on a specific recording time?

James

@NexTerren Not yet no,

Nex Terren

@James Mkay.

James

actually does anyone have recommendations for brands of headphone/mic combo sets? I am searching amazon right now.

Nex Terren

18:19

pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2492543,00.asp ? Or is that too expensive/cheap?

Logitech makes decent mics. All I've tested/used have clarity but they sound... cold? For lack of a better description? Not like a studio mic.

I got this for a friend, and he's really happy with it: amazon.com/gp/product/B00JJNQG98/…

But it's a gaming headset that clamps on your head. Don't know if you care about the looks.

Or... let me find the wraparound my father uses.

DaaaahWhoosh

@NexTerren I think I got the better version of that one, and I've been liking it

Nex Terren

Hm. Can't find it.

James

looking

Nex Terren

I had used this in the past, and they have fantastic quality on both the audio in and out, buuut they broke repeatedly.

On the plus side the company provided absolutely no harassment *whatsoever* about returns (they didn't even ask me to justify why it kept breaking), and were really fast about turnaround. Like really fast. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008O515CK/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Well not returns, fixes.

James

I like this one, but it appears I would probably need a power supply as well? Not really familiar with audio work so I am not sure. smile.amazon.com/…

Nex Terren

18:26

Oh wow! A legit mic.

James

@ArtofCode Yo! You around?

Nex Terren

@James It looks like it comes with a cord for a normal power outlet. But it doesn't come with an arm/spit guard.

Sorry, "pop filter."

James

Did you see the price on it...freaking good deal.

Nex Terren

Oh, I lied.

James

@NexTerren I knew it.

Nex Terren

18:29

See the top answer for "Good for a Home PC with an audio card?"

Looks like you need the power adapter. The cord just allows it to plug into the adapter?

dot_Sp0T

@James I use the Razer Megalodon and am Happy with it

James

@NexTerren I have no idea, I was hoping art was around

he does sounds stuff if I recall.

Nex Terren

@James I recall that as well.

James

@HDE226868 Mind bugging him for me?

HDE 226868

@James Bugging who?

Nex Terren

18:32

@HDE226868 ArtOfCode. It's for the site podcast.

James

@HDE226868 What Nex said.

HDE 226868

@NexTerren Sure. @ArtOfCode ^^.

James

Gracias

...I wish there were a font that expressed the sort of dark, ominous, booming nature of Gandalf's voice when he is intimidating Bilbo...I would use that when I entered a room due to someone pinging me.

WHY HAVE YOU SUMMONED ME

HDE 226868

$$\mathfrak{You shall not pass!}$$

James

what about this one: smile.amazon.com/Logitech-Extreme-Gaming-Headset-980233-0403/dp/…

ArtOfCode

18:38

WHO DARES DISTURB MY ETERNAL SLUMBER

oh, it's you lot

hi

James

heh

@ArtOfCode Had a sound equipment question for you

ArtOfCode

sure

James

I am tempted to get this:

smile.amazon.com/…

but I don't really know what else I would need for it to work with my PC

ArtOfCode

PC specs/OS?

James

spec wise...

uh...

ArtOfCode

18:40

oh hang on, you need a phantom supply for that thing

James

lets see here, is it enough to say I don't have a dedicated sound card?

ArtOfCode

which you don't often find outside of mixing desks

What are you looking for, just something that you can connect to your PC for recording yourself?

James

the crew informed me that the sound quality from the headset/mic combo I bought for 12 dollars like 6 years ago wasn't great

So mainly just setting up for the podcast.

ArtOfCode

@James got a sample of it?

James

@ArtOfCode The audio from the podcast? @NexTerren might, I didn't actually record anything

ArtOfCode

18:43

'kay

James

so that mic I linked, you would hook the mic into the power supply and then the ps into the pc?

ArtOfCode

You need a 48V regulated supply for that, which your PSU probably doesn't give you

...and by the looks of it, that 48V needs to come down the same line as audio out

James

So I would need something like this: smile.amazon.com/…

ArtOfCode

so, simple answer: not likely to work

@James in theory, yes, but that takes an 18V supply which your PSU is also not likely to give you, and it only works with XLR I/O, which that mike isn't.

Try something like this: amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01587Y4QA

James

That would just be plug and play into a USB port?

ArtOfCode

18:50

I've used a very similar model to that one for live radio broadcasts, and it's been awesome

@James should be, yeah. The USB is the power supply for it, you also need to plug the 3.5 mil connector into your mic in socket

James

@ArtOfCode that should work...but the other one is so shiny...

stupid function beating out form...

ArtOfCode

@James it's also intended for use with professional grade equipment :)

James

@ArtOfCode ...there's a joke in there somewhere.

ArtOfCode

Honestly, the only expensive mikes you want to be looking at are XLR mikes. Those are mostly decent; those with quarter-inch connections are all too often terrible

@James i.e. of the type that you likely don't have :)

James

gotcha

@ArtOfCode how does this compare to what you shared?

smile.amazon.com/…

ArtOfCode

18:56

@James very similar

James

@ArtOfCode and last question, if I were to be lazy and just get a headset/mic combo would you have a suggestion there?

ArtOfCode

@James those are way more variable

I don't actually have one, so your best method of judging headsets is gonna be reading the reviews :)

James

sweet. Thanks for the help

This chat is awesome...I can get advice on studio sound equipment, writing, coding, wood working...heh

ArtOfCode

Heh

Nex Terren

@James At work, so I can't send it now, but I can later tonight if it'd help.

James

19:00

@NexTerren huh...what?

oh right the audio

(im guessing)

ArtOfCode

@NexTerren sure, that'd be useful

I might be able to do some wizardry with it to clean it up

James

@ArtOfCode were you still up for doing the audio editing?

ArtOfCode

sure, if it's needed :)

just be aware that I'm moving off to university the weekend of the 19th, so most of that week is gonna be pretty unproductive for me :)

James

@ArtOfCode Alrighty. Probably good for us to share the sound test with you anyway then.

ArtOfCode

would be useful, yes

MolbOrg

19:10

@HDE226868 I might forget about it, so I decided to do it now. If you feel to much obligated you might consider it like investment I gave to you, until you will feel that obligation are fulfilled. I personally got what I want from that 'lile experiment. If some one else will post same form and better content - just notice me and I will give another 500 bounty, not a problem at all.

MolbOrg

19:23

reading it now, but for comment you have posted - gravity mechanics, it was like Lawson criterion force*time_it_affects.
Like that graph part, like buffalo.edu link
Overall you are a bit off in direction of you little science work, in therms of OP's situation.
definitely useful answer for those who may look for HS answer in that situation. Hard to expect competition of such answers, so in fact probably it is the best op's could get for free points. Next stop 12 beers and snacks.

AndyD273

@ArtOfCode Since you seem to know some about mics, what are your thoughts on USB microphones?

ArtOfCode

@AndyD273 not as good as 3.5 mil or XLR mikes, but they have their uses

Nex Terren

@James Sorry, yes, you guessed right.

MolbOrg

@HDE226868 and I like that implementing theory and try to show things numerically, applying theory

AndyD273

Interesting. I know with XLR you need to have a mixer. Interesting that just a 3.5 jack is as good.

ArtOfCode

19:30

@AndyD273 it's not - XLR is best, 3.5 jacks aren't quite up to that but they're not bad

MolbOrg

@HDE226868 also might be nice to notice tool you have used in making plot, because it is no obvious if it is pseudocode or real code

MolbOrg

19:46

@NexTerren prefer that duck's story newer to be disclosed))

James

19:57

@ArtOfCode Like amateur podcasting...

Nex Terren

@James Amateur?! Amateur?! I already quit my job for this!

@MolbOrg No promises.

ArtOfCode

@James depends how good you want it to be :P

James

@NexTerren That was a really really good idea. Run with it.

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