The Factory Floor

Theocles of Saturn

09:03

How do I add new tags?

Hohmannfan

10:13

@TheoclesofSaturn You can add them when you edit a post. When you have a higher rep, you can also edit the tags directly.

bilbo_pingouin

11:32

@TheoclesofSaturn with low reputation, you can't at all. With higher reputation, you can create new tags, by simply writing the new one to one question

Worldbuilding Meta

11:53

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Q: Am I time travelling?

I just could not believe my eyes, seeing a question of mine as got meta post just now. I know that it was one before, but I could not figure out why now? As of this popular meta post, the aspects considered during calculation are: Votes [aka Score] Views Answers Answer Votes [aka S...

support

overactor

12:38

In light of our upcoming design

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Q: A way to turn the design of SE sites

worldbuilding.SE is in the process of graduating. As part of this graduation, it will be receiving its own design. A first iteration of this design has already been presented. The response to this design has been largely positive, but some are concerned that it will stand out too much. (1, 2) An...

feature-request design

nvm, it was a dupe, I just didn't find it before asking

then again, the questions it's a dupe of got wrongfully closed as a dupe itself before getting any answers.

Pavel Janicek

too lazy to click the link

meh

Warning: Troll mode detected in Pavel

I should maybe leave the chat until I feel less trolololo

overactor

12:54

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Q: Switch Stack Exchange site's interface to the beta theme

Is it possible to switch a certain Stack Exchange site's interface (as a personal preference) to the theme used by beta sites? Some sites have flashy decorations or unreadable fonts (I prefer to disable antialiasing on fonts). It would be nice to have an option to see a site with the "beta" them...

feature-request design

I Stanley

Quick question: I've been reading all of the meta stuff re: idea generation and what-if questions and it's become increasingly clear to me that I've only ever assumed I knew what the actual detailed purpose of this board is. Has this been clearly stated anywhere (like a WB charter or manifesto: "This is what we are here for"), or is this a conversation worth starting up? There appears to be a significant grey area in terms of what WorldBuilding actually entails.

Pavel Janicek

I kinda like the proposed worldbuilding style

@IStanley I believe that will be the outcome of current discussion

But I feel that discussion did not end yet

I Stanley

See that's what I was worried about: the current discussions are just talking about the symptoms and how some questions are "Off-topic". Noone seems to be stepping back and clearly defining where the definition of off-topic is coming from

Pavel Janicek

Now I get it

but to me, personally, I am not really sure what should be inside Worldbuilding Manifesto

overactor

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Q: Switch Stack Exchange site's interface to the beta theme

Is it possible to switch a certain Stack Exchange site's interface (as a personal preference) to the theme used by beta sites? Some sites have flashy decorations or unreadable fonts (I prefer to disable antialiasing on fonts). It would be nice to have an option to see a site with the "beta" them...

feature-request design

The original question has been reopened

I Stanley

13:00

@PavelJanicek, look at it this way: There is a list defining what's on-topic in the WB help here: worldbuilding.stackexchange.com/help/on-topic, but that list implies that idea-generation questions are valid

Pavel Janicek

I feel the answer will be> Use custom userstyle

@IStanley There you are wrong. Idea generation is one of close reason

I Stanley

@PavelJanicek, Sure it is, but that help lists "How to achieve a specified effect in a defined world, including by the use of biology, technology or magic, while maintaning in-universe consistency" as a valid question

so If I said "I want this effect on my world, but I don't know how to go about doing it in a consistent manner" it would be a valid question, even through there could be multiple acceptable and wholly different asnwers

overactor

@PavelJanicek But then you have to start installing userscripts on a pc where you don't want stand-out site designs on your screens

But yeah, that could be

Hohmannfan

13:21

@TimB It seems like I lost all my rights to the colour y*****:

overactor

13:34

@Hohmannfan what's your solution?

Green

@MonicaCellio Yay! Feature creep!

Tim B

13:54

Everyone needs to upvote meta.worldbuilding.stackexchange.com/a/3164/49 so he gets his badge for winning the pool and then I'll return your yellow :)

bilbo_pingouin

been there, done that :)

Pavel Janicek

upvoted

Tim B

@IStanley Don't worry, that discussion will be coming Soon[tm] we had a similar discussion early in the beta but the site has grown a lot and learnt a lot since then

We've got some ideas for how to handle it in a more structured way but we're waiting for the election madness to be over etc

I Stanley

@TimB, thanks, just wanted to make sure the point was out there before irreversible decisions were made!

AndreiROM

hi everyone

congrats to our newly elected mods!

Tim B

14:06

@AndreiROM Thanks :)

We need one more vote on meta.worldbuilding.stackexchange.com/a/3164/49

AndreiROM

@TimB - got both your question and Overactor's reply to 10 votes :P

Tim B

@AndreiROM Thanks, good job :)

Hohmannfan

14:25

@overactor Basically to replace the annoying features like unreadable fonts in the style-sheets. That works if you do not necessarily want everything to be like a beta site.

Green

@Hohmannfan How are unreadable fonts getting into themes anyway? This shouldn't be happening with a properly designed theme by a professional UI developer.

Changing themes make sense but the themes should be usable to begin with. ....but every them isn't useable to all people....so, yeah, that make sense to be able to change a theme. </rambling>

Hohmannfan

Personally, I do not like delayed gradual button high-lightning either, but that is less of a problem

But I am already disqualified in terms of having a good taste. I mean, I often use openbox as my DE.

Green

@Hohmannfan It's been a long long time since I looked at Openbox. Crazy minimal DEs...:)

bilbo_pingouin

14:43

I installed OpenBox on my old EEE PC. It's fun :-)

and it scares people ;)

Green

@bilbo_pingouin Holy crap! That machine is so old!

But, in good form, if the software doesn't have high demands, old hardware works perfectly well.

bilbo_pingouin

15:01

the main problem of my eee pc was that with 12 GB, one can hardly get anywhere...

I mean for most web-browsing and such, it's more than fine... anything else is a pain. And OpenBox is a good way to save precious GB

Pavel Janicek

I have one question regarding elections: Once you become elected Mod, you can be Mod as long as you wish

So, is there a way to "rebel" against Mod?

DaaaahWhoosh

@PavelJanicek I assume they can get kicked out if they're doing a bad job

bilbo_pingouin

you mean as if people don't like a mod, can they get rid of it?

Pavel Janicek

In meaning: A person remains as a Mod, but does not really do much (as example). Is there a way to report tem?

bowlturner

If a mod isn't doing their job, or are abusing their privileges steps can be taken to have them removed

bilbo_pingouin

15:05

yes, it has happened... the SE staff can push a mod out

Pavel Janicek

And way to find out the Mod is not doing anything is on Site owners?

bowlturner

The other mods should be monitoring each other too

Pavel Janicek

(I am not planning any rebellion, really. Believe me :) )

Tim B

Elected mod is not for a fixed term

I'm now your friendly dictator for life

Rebellion will be crushed with the iron fist of tyranny

Pavel Janicek

All hail to Tim B! :)

Tim B

15:07

Good man, you can be my chief assistant rabble rouser deputy understudy

actually on a more serious note. Mods can monitor each other and are also monitored by the CM staff. Use of mod tools and access to private information is logged etc so we do have oversight

bowlturner

Remember, remember the 5th of November

;)

Tim B

if the community has a problem with a mod then there's a procedure for raising that as well although I don't know how much that procedure has actually been used ever

James

@TimB Hey DFL (you need to change your profile name) what about fictional-history

Tim B

@James Would people find that if they were creating a new question and went to type in the tag. That's the key thing that makes a tag useful. People need to find that tag when they try to use it

DaaaahWhoosh

15:22

why wouldn't they find history-creation? It should show up if they type 'history'

Tim B

fictional-history would not

or at least might not

basically the tag has to be clear, obvious, and automatically found by most people who want to use it. If it isn't those things there's no point doing any further discussion

I don't see a real need to change the history tag tbh

DaaaahWhoosh

I think history is a problem because History SE exists

we don't want to steal their questions, our history questions should relate to worldbuilding

so, since we don't want people to ask questions just about history, we should add a modifier

Tim B

so? physics.se exists but that doesn't mean we can't have a physics tag

questions about history are fine so long as they are also about worldbuilding

Pavel Janicek

what was wrong with alternate-history tag?

James

15:40

@PavelJanicek alternate history is specifically for altering earth's history (per the tag wiki)

DaaaahWhoosh

@TimB Physics is about laws, whereas history is about events. The only case I can think of where we would be able to use history for worldbuilding would be for finding historical precedents for events, to ensure that they fit a given scenario

If that's what the tag is for, then I guess I'm fine with it too. Maybe I should read the tag wiki

James

@DaaaahWhoosh Sure but like we were discussing the timeframe specific tags are more useful for that imo

Tim B

@DaaaahWhoosh "How many blacksmiths would be in a 15th century medieval village of size X" is on topic for both worldbuilding and history

James

@TimB fictional-history would work, when I search tags and type in history, alternate history pops up

for example

Tim B

So you want alternate-history to be questions about our history modified. history to be questions about our history unchanged and fictional-history to be about the history of an imaginary world?

DaaaahWhoosh

15:44

@TimB I don't know, would that really be on-topic here?

Tim B

you should look at the conlang tabs, that's the closest analogue I can think of now

@DaaaahWhoosh Yep, not even borderline. What criteria would you judge it off topic by?

DaaaahWhoosh

@TimB It just looks like it's about our world, not about building a new one. I've had questions closed before because they were about the future of our world, rather than a fictional future. By that criteria, I would say asking about the real past is worse

I have, like, three closed questions, and I don't really agree with any of them, because similar questions remain open

bowlturner

Then vote to reopen them!

DaaaahWhoosh

well, I guess it's not so much that I disagree, but that I am bothered by the inconsistency. I'd support the closures if the reasons behind them were agreed upon

stuff about our world with nothing changed is off-topic. Agree or disagree?

Tim B

disagree

bowlturner

15:50

To me it depends on how it relates to building your world, but mostly I think they are fine

Tim B

because understanding your starting point is an important thing when building soemthing new

in the next few days I'm going to start a site scope definition process

hopefully we can bring a lot more clarity and consistency to the whole thing

DaaaahWhoosh

@TimB Sure it's important, bur I just don't think it belongs on this specific site

Tim B

just because something can be on topic on another site doesn't mean it's off topic here

is a question about plate tectonics off topic? That's asking about the real world.

DaaaahWhoosh

@TimB If we have a better-suited SE site for it, maybe. I see your point, pretty much every question we have could be on-topic somewhere else too, I just feel like we shouldn't just accept any question that might help build a world

I feel like if we did that, our scope would be just too big, and maybe that's contributing to the other problems

I mean, how often do we migrate questions these days?

bowlturner

I tend to disagree, if it's an answerable world building question, it's within scope.

Well I guess that could be taken to extremes too.

SE answerable might be a little better

DaaaahWhoosh

16:04

It just seems to me like you guys are saying that if I have literally any question relating to building a world, I should just ask it here rather than asking it at a site that specializes in whatever field I'm asking about. That doesn't sound right to me, but I respect your opinions enough to stop arguing about it if no one else agrees

AndreiROM

@DaaaahWhoosh I think the problem is that a lot of the other SE sites take their subject matter very seriously

a lot of questions which might get you a quasi-scientific reply on WB would be outright closed on Physics SE

bowlturner

Well I tend to be more willing to accept questions than most, so I certainly shouldn't be the final word. I expect the line will be more restrictive than I'd accept which is just fine with me.

AndreiROM

not to say that you couldn't try to ask those aspects of a question which relate to a different SE site on those sites, but your odds of getting an answer are still best on WB

bowlturner

Right! there's no uncertainty in physics!

Tim B

@DaaaahWhoosh Good questions are valuable. Why give them away? (Bad questions on the other hand they're welcome to). Yes if a question would be answered significantly better on another site or is off topic on ours it would be worth considering migration. If on the other hand a question is on topic on both our site and theirs and is likely to be answered here then keep that precious shiny good question like the special snowflake it is.

AndreiROM

16:09

@TimB SHINY!

I Stanley

@DaaaahWhoosh It's a question of the required answer if you ask me. A question about the physical viability of something might be answerable on Physics.SE, but you would get a highly technical answer that may not really address your question - would it work within the setting of my world.

Hohmannfan

"The last message was posted 1 hour ago." Does now permanently float at the bottom of this chat. Anyone else?

bowlturner

@Hohmannfan nope, not here, try refreshing?

Hohmannfan

@bowlturner The only thing that is a little annoying about it is that I can not edit my posts because they are an "hour" old.

AndreiROM

sounds like a system's issue. Ctrl+F5 ?

maybe a javascript issue?

bowlturner

16:14

that's what I meant be refreshing...

AndreiROM

some people just hit the refresh on the window, which might not fix a javascript thingamaissue

DaaaahWhoosh

@TimB I like good questions, but I thought the whole idea of migrating was to make sure good questions get the best answers. I'd rather share them with sites that might answer them better than hoard them 'till judgement day.

James

@TimB Well alternate history is already about modifying earth history, and we seem to have plenty of that flavor of question to validate its own tag. But yeah that's pretty much what I was recommending.

Hohmannfan

Back again. I closed the browser and restarted. Issue fixed. There are only one problem in the world: Cache

@James I am a little confused about the proposed history-tag definitions. As I see them now, I could easily have used them wrong. It is not very intuitive.

DaaaahWhoosh

@IStanley I agree with this, if your question is about worldbuilding then keep it. But if it's specifically about some aspect of physics or history or whatever, independent of a world other than our own, I think it should be put somewhere else

I Stanley

16:23

@DaaaahWhoosh, agreed, I just think that in the vast majority of cases people posting asking for hard science answers aren't necessarily looking for the pure science answer, just the pure-enough-for-purpose answer which they wouldn't get on the pure science board.

James

@Hohmannfan I agree, part of the reason I wanted to discuss it

James

16:44

Ok what if we changed the name on the era specific tags to history-ancient, history-medieval, history-renaissance etc etc etc, then add history-fictional and history-alternate

or rather rename alternate history to history-alternate

bowlturner

I'm OK with that. But then my expectations for tagging seem to wrong as often as right...

Tim B

i don't mind ancient-history being that way around. What's the reason for changing it?

bowlturner

they'd sort together?

Tim B

tags aren't alpha sorted anyway

bowlturner

they can be. default is use

BTW I don't have a strong opinion on this one way or the other

James

16:53

standardization is better than non-standardization and it helps people identify that they are similar tags/grouped

I posted an answer to the meta question with my recommendation if anyone wants to voice an opinion there.

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A: What shall we do with the history tags?

Ok I have been thinking about this and I think I have my final recommendation (pending you all slaughtering it with red ink/sheep's blood) Eliminate history it's simply too generic to be useful in categorizing Rename alternate-history to history-alternate to support a new convention (Ill elabor...

Tim B

I don't see how moving history to the start is any more standardised than having it at the end.

Overall I'm ok with the proposal except for the mangling of the names

I commented on the answer though, let's keep the discussion in one place

Jerenda

17:34

I'm contemplating writing an answer to the history tags discussion. How do you make tags show up in a post?

Tim B

do tag:history in square brackets [] history

Jerenda

Thank you!

Tim B

you're welcome :)

Jerenda

18:03

There, @James, I contributed my two cents. :) And now I'm going to propose a new topic challenge because Industrial History is cool.

Worldbuilding Meta

18:27

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Q: Why don't I have the Mortarboard Badge?

This badge is earned by earning an excess of 200 (What are they?) points in one day. According to the timeline on my account, one day I got 212 points, 100 of that because I was trusted on other sites in the community. Is that why it didn't give me the achievement? Note - It's not that important...

discussion badges

James

18:42

@TimB Beginning or end is irrelevant I guess. It just makes more sense to me to have the category come before the specific topic.

@Jerenda Thanks, the more input the better

DaaaahWhoosh

@James I think that only applies if we're imagining the tags in categories. But usually people use them one at a time, so they should be considered separately

James

sure but what I am trying to get to is a set up where if someone starts to type history into the tag field when submitting a question that these all pop-up so they can grab the correct one.

DaaaahWhoosh

that should happen either way

James

@DaaaahWhoosh right. as long as we get to that I am good.

AndreiROM

so guys ... i'd like to ask your opinion

I made this comment yesterday: worldbuilding.stackexchange.com/questions/36067/…

Xandar commented on it overnight saying that I was insulting people's religion by saying "for Christ's sake"

I thought he was joking .. apparently he wasn't.

DaaaahWhoosh

18:53

@AndreiROM Xandar does seem to be easily offended

Samuel

It's not insulting people's religion

DaaaahWhoosh

but the capitalization did stand out to me

Samuel

People with religion are insulted, it's very different

AndreiROM

well .. Christ is technically a name of sorts

hence the capitalization

Samuel

It's a title actually.

AndreiROM

18:53

agreed. Name was a poor choice of word

Samuel

But, I suppose that's part of a name.

AndreiROM

the point being I'm not crazy to think it's not a big deal, right ?

Samuel

Still, I agree you're in the right.

AndreiROM

I very rarely make those sort of comments anyway, I was just very frustrated with the OP's post

and saying "for fuck's sake" seems worse :P

anyway, thank you for the input. Always good to know I'm not crazy

Samuel

It's the internet, not church, there is no requirement to try and please everyone. If you're not being intentionally offensive, then I don't see a problem.

DaaaahWhoosh

18:55

@AndreiROM Yeah, I think the phrase is more insulting because you're trying to be insulting rather than because of religion

James

Well first point, it was a brand new user.

AndreiROM

also, I gleened it from one of his comments of chat posts that Xandar is 13, so yea

James

Cut them some slack

Samuel

However, I do see the comment as overly harsh in tone. As @James said.

AndreiROM

i think I actually said "sorry" to the op later in the comment thread

James

18:56

second its the internet, the usefulness of getting frustrated with people is completely non-existent

AndreiROM

@James while that may be true it does feel good to vent every once in a while

James

so the use of christ aside my problems with the comment were related to the way a new user first experienced the site which we cannot do to new people if we want to continue to grow

DaaaahWhoosh

now that I think about it, I actually am more offended by 'for Christ's sake' than I think I should be

Samuel

@AndreiROM Yeah, I'm not one to speak against that. I mean, did you see the election?

AndreiROM

@DaaaahWhoosh what do you mean?

@Samuel what do you mean, too ? :P

James

18:58

and case in point it appears that the account of the op has been removed/deleted? so we can't be doing that to people.

Samuel

It's now well documented that I'm fairly well hated, and it's probably not for being too nice.

AndreiROM

@Samuel "well hated" might be going too far

James

@Samuel on a positive note its why I find you entertaining

DaaaahWhoosh

@AndreiROM I don't know, it just seems worse than some similar phrases. Like 'for God's sake' seems more like 'man, you should've done this differently', but 'for Christ's sake' sounds like 'there is a man getting crucified right now because of your stupidity'. I guess it's just a less common phrase to me, so it has more bite

Serban Tanasa

@AndreiROM, the comment could be written in a friendlier fashion :)

AndreiROM

18:59

but i do admit that before we spoke in chat I sometimes noticed that your replies were spectacularly sarcastic/critical.

I think you may have been my inspiration to start being a little more blunt/mean to people :P

Jerenda

As a person of religion, I would argue that "for chrissake" might be a better phrase, as it's a step removed from invoking the actual person of Christ.

Samuel

"For christ's sake" I think is a very common phrase here in the States. They say it on television for Christ's sake.

AndreiROM

@Jerenda interesting input

DaaaahWhoosh

@Jerenda I second this, the capitalization makes it sound super-serious

Jerenda

#wordsmith :)

AndreiROM

19:01

technically I'm Orthodox, but actually I'm hard-core agnostic, so to me it doesn't seem bad/mean/evil. Also, in both Romania / Canada saying things like "for God's sake", or for "Christ's sake" is very common, even in polite company

as for the capitalization ... it's just the way I type it

but anyway, point taken

Serban Tanasa

@AndreiROM, perhaps "by Einstein's ghost' might be more agnostic-appropriate?

Samuel

Shall we not say Holy Cow then? Maybe Holicow is less offensive?

AndreiROM

@Samuel Holy bovine

but I think this will be insulting to Indians

Samuel

My point exactly.

AndreiROM

:P

DaaaahWhoosh

19:02

@Samuel I'm just saying don't capitalize it. Holy cow. Otherwise, you'll look like someone who's so serious about God that they capitalize His pronouns

Samuel

Just about Yahweh.

AndreiROM

I just wanted - and got - some feedback

Samuel

One of many gods.

AndreiROM

1) Be less mean to silly new commers - message received and understood

Jerenda

@SerbanTanasa I support "by Einstein's ghost"

AndreiROM

19:03

2) try to not insult people's religion - easy enough

@SerbanTanasa By Einstein's freaky hairdo!

Jerenda

"Holy cow, Einstein!"

AndreiROM

@Jerenda somehow this reminded me of Scooby-do

Jee-wiz, gang!

Jerenda

@AndreiROM I was thinking of Batman & Robin, but sure. XD

AndreiROM

@Jerenda also that? :P

James

good talk :)

DaaaahWhoosh

19:06

I would like to mention that I'm not actually religious. I always feel like I come across as really religious, I think I just like the idea of it

AndreiROM

@DaaaahWhoosh that statement was extremely humorous

no offence intended

DaaaahWhoosh

@AndreiROM I'm so offended right now, I'm gonna downvote all your posts >:(

James

@DaaaahWhoosh Your father was a hamster

AndreiROM

@DaaaahWhoosh not my precious reputation!!!!

bowlturner

and your mother smelt of elderberries!

AndreiROM

19:14

@bowlturner woah there! bringing out the big guns

bowlturner

never bring a gun to a knife fight! it ain't fair...

James

...I think I got that backwards, I think its "Your mother was a hamster"

bowlturner

You might be right. So what were YOU smoking?

James

Crack, its wack

AndreiROM

This is getting weird, fast

Jerenda

19:18

The mother is the hamster, aka a fast-breeding rodent, and the father smells of elderberries, which when fermented turn alcoholic.

James

Bowlturner and I share some regional familiarity...

For example. @bowlturner did you save big money yesterday afternoon?

bowlturner

and sense of humor...

Jerenda

/me pushes up spectacles XD

bowlturner

@James yes, because I covered my eyes when I walked past the tools

James

@bowlturner Sarcasm is is my favorite -asm

@bowlturner I want to buy a router, and biscuit cutter, and a large planer but haven't had the spare $$

bowlturner

19:20

it's cheaper to buy one at a time.

Pavel Janicek

Worst part of the internet is that sometimes you cannot really tell if someone is being sarcastic

bowlturner

Oh and the screws from a kreg jig are HARD and will ruin the blade of a biscuit jointer and cost $30+ to replace

@PavelJanicek that's OK, even in real life people don't know if I'm serious often.

AndreiROM

what. the. heck. is a "biscuit cutter"

I was imagining you know .. a tool for cutting biscuits

for whatever reason

i mean .. i just eat my Oreo's the good ol' fashioned way

Pavel Janicek

Me too

AndreiROM

then I realized it might be referring to something else

might

maybe

perhaps

bowlturner

19:24

While they have tools to cut biscuits I'm assuming he meant a biscuit joiner amazon.com/DEWALT-DW682K-6-5-Plate-Joiner/dp/B00002232S/…

AndreiROM

I'm disappointed that it has nothing to do with actual biscuits :(

Jerenda

Not a piece of baking equipment? amazon.com/RSVP-Endurance-Stainless-Biscuit-Cutter/dp/…

James

Yeah I already have bisuit cutters in the kitchen, I need the kind for the woodshop

man I forgot i need to get a kreg jig too...

and yeah those would break a blade.

AndreiROM

so where are you guys from?

since you speak of the same mystical biscuit tools

James

I'm in Nebraska currently

bowlturner

19:26

these buscuits have lots of fiber amazon.com/PORTER-CABLE-5554-1000-Assorted-Biscuits/dp/…

AndreiROM

when I followed that first amazon link I got flashes of Ron Swanson

bowlturner

Minnesota!

James

room topic changed to Worldbuilders' General Chat: Main chat room for worldbuilding.stackexchange.com [balloon-whales] [bewildered-gods] [mystical-biscuit-tools] [reasoned-discussion]

AndreiROM

we should make a tag for that

James

I may or may not have added mystical-biscuit-tools to the chatroom topic list

AndreiROM

19:28

excellent

Jerenda

Califo-- no wait I moved

bowlturner

it's there. Things seem to keep pushing 'reasoned-discussion' farther down the list

AndreiROM

I live in Ontario

James

I lived in minnesota for a couple years in college as well so I know the twin cities pretty well.

AndreiROM

I shoveled snow for 40 minutes when I got home yesterday

I'm a software developer

shoveling snow is not what I signed up for

bowlturner

19:29

:)

Jerenda

It's good for you

Builds character

AndreiROM

Tell me about it. When I moved to Canada I thought we ended up at the North Pole by mistake

James

And sledding is awesome

bowlturner

Ontario is still south of me! ;)

AndreiROM

I have become an avid snow boarder .. since it's easier to travel on the snow than to shovel it

@bowlturner which part of it, lol

Jerenda

19:31

So your life looks like this, @AndreiROM? youtube.com/watch?v=3t-cd4vMq6E

AndreiROM

@Jerenda can't access youtube :(

bowlturner

@AndreiROM the populated part! ;)

AndreiROM

but we have access to amazon ffs

tells us all a little something about my boss's priorities :P

@bowlturner oh, boy

Jerenda

:( It's the opening song from Frozen, Frozen Heart.

AndreiROM

@Jerenda lol. It's been a pretty decent winter, except the last couple of weeks

but last yr was basically a frozen apocalypse

I used to think that all-weather tires are fine. Now I know why very smart people went through the trouble of inventing snow tires

bowlturner

19:33

@AndreiROM I'm currently in the Duluth area. I think 80% of Ontario residents are about even or south of here.

AndreiROM

and why not all snow tires are created equal

@bowlturner I do not envy you

I'm in the GTA (greater Toronto area) and it's plenty cold down here for me

bowlturner

19:53

For a second I thought that was Grand Theft Auto...

AndreiROM

that's an awesome game

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