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Phrancis
Phrancis
1:26 AM
Monknight
 
 
1 hour later…
Phrancis
Phrancis
2:27 AM
@bazola this looks pretty badass
 
bazola
bazola
2:47 AM
Thanks. You mean my code?
 
 
2 hours later…
Dagg Nabbit
Dagg Nabbit
4:52 AM
@bazola answered
 
Phrancis
Phrancis
@bazola yes
@DaggNabbit your answer reminds me of the idea of SQL stored function (in principle) though in practice it looks like a more complicated version. But I think good answer :D
Compile the code once, then just pass shit arguments/parameters to it and it does most of the work for you
This could be a tremendously easy way for modders to create the cards for their mods
Just as an example 
ScriptIAmMaking = createClass({"newCard"},
  {name = "'Warrior'",
  Strength = 3,
  Health = 2,
  Cost = 2,
  Attribute = "Poke"}
)
(yes my indentation sucks, live with it) 
ScriptIAmMaking = createClass(
  {"newCard"},
  {
    name = "'Warrior'",
    Strength = 3,
    Health = 2,
    Cost = 2,
    Attribute = "Poke"
  }
)
Gods, indentation is hard lol
Almost as hard as naming things... -.-
 
Dagg Nabbit
Dagg Nabbit
5:32 AM
lol
@Phrancis the great thing is you don't even need to require them to write it like that, the script can just return a plain old table and you can do the createClass thing later
 
Phrancis
Phrancis
5:55 AM
Guessing the table could just as easily be passed to SQL for long term storage as well
Just pass null on fields not specified
 
Dagg Nabbit
Dagg Nabbit
probably, yeah
 
Phrancis
Phrancis
I like Lua, seems like it bridges gaps between languages not easily compatible otherwise
 
Dagg Nabbit
Dagg Nabbit
it really does
Lua and C(++) is pretty much a powerhouse combo
C for low-level stuff, Lua for high-level stuff
 
Phrancis
Phrancis
It seems the PL makes thing easy for data storage/retrieval... imagine...
Lua: Here is `class "'Warrior'"` table
SQL: Cool, I like tables!
*later...*
Lua: Hey SQL, I need `class "'Warrior'"`
SQL: Cool, here's a table!
So much for formatting, you get the idea though
C is over my head right now though... take this from the stack, put that back on the stack I understand very little of it
I can stack Poker chips and understand, take this from my stack
 
Dagg Nabbit
Dagg Nabbit
6:16 AM
@Phrancis that's probably the C Lua API you're thinking of... it is very much stack-based and is probably tricky to get the hang of, even for seasoned programmers
normally the barriers with C are memory management, no classes, no OOP, no namespaces, etc
C++ fixes all of that besides memory management
 
Phrancis
Phrancis
I've heard the acronym API but I've never used one (on purpose)
 
Dagg Nabbit
Dagg Nabbit
lol
 
Phrancis
Phrancis
I'm interested but I know nothing about most of it... SQL is pre-compiled and doesn't feel like real programming
 
Dagg Nabbit
Dagg Nabbit
sql is just... different, it's a domain-specific language, not a general-purpose language
 
Phrancis
Phrancis
I'm slowly learning Java... I can maybe write 'Hello, World!' but not on a Friday night
 
Dagg Nabbit
Dagg Nabbit
6:20 AM
I think the problem with Java is once people learn it, there's no room left in their brains to learn anything else
 
Phrancis
Phrancis
lol
 
Dagg Nabbit
Dagg Nabbit
there is just so much... stuff in Java
 
Phrancis
Phrancis
It does seem very broad
 
Dagg Nabbit
Dagg Nabbit
like there are probably dozens of different types of collections, where for example in Lua you just have tables (and you never really need anything else)
consider this article, this is just page 1: javamex.com/tutorials/collections/how_to_choose.shtml
with Lua you can just say "use a table," end of story
 
Phrancis
Phrancis
High level Lua seems a lot more useful, for common stuff
I don't know how good it would be at messing around with threads and stuff (maybe it is)
 
Dagg Nabbit
Dagg Nabbit
6:27 AM
it's actually not bad at it at all
 
Phrancis
Phrancis
This Javamex website must not be "official"
 
Dagg Nabbit
Dagg Nabbit
lol no, but that article is a good example of the thought process required for someone new to Java just to choose which type of collection to use, and the stuff a seasoned Java guy has to remember
^ that is a really good blog post
a Java programmer's experience with Python
most if not all of the Python stuff there applies to Lua
he weighs the pros and cons of each
 
Phrancis
Phrancis
@DaggNabbit can/should Lua be used for storing game/player/card data while a game is not going on? I know we talked about storing some data in SQL for easy storage/retrieval but I don't really know the scope...
Coool, I'll give it a read
 
Dagg Nabbit
Dagg Nabbit
I think that would be stored in SQL
 
Phrancis
Phrancis
What kind of data do you think should not be stored in SQL?
(except data generated in the course of a game, Lua handles that)
 
Dagg Nabbit
Dagg Nabbit
6:34 AM
i think anything that persists between games, and changes, could be stored in SQL
 
Phrancis
Phrancis
My dilemma is between could and should
 
Dagg Nabbit
Dagg Nabbit
well, i see no reason to store it anywhere else ;)
so i guess it should
 
Phrancis
Phrancis
So I guess anything that's persistent between games should be in SQL DB?
I'm thinking of mostly keeping I/O / packets to a minimum, I think get a packet before game starts and send one after game ends, and refresh occasionally from SQL during idle time may be best...?
 
Dagg Nabbit
Dagg Nabbit
yeah i don't even know if it would need to do anything during games, just before and after
 
Phrancis
Phrancis
If Lua can hold the data during game, then no SQL connection should be needed, methinks
 
Dagg Nabbit
Dagg Nabbit
6:41 AM
that's what i'm thinking too
except maybe weird corner cases like if the game server crashes and the database server doesn't, and something happened during the game that would need to persist... idk what that would be though, something like a card got permanently destroyed or someone got a new card somehow
 
Phrancis
Phrancis
Sounds like something we would patch... later ;)
 
Dagg Nabbit
Dagg Nabbit
yeah definitely ;)
 
Phrancis
Phrancis
Jay and I discussed some GUI design tonight, I'll make a PowerPoint image and post to Q&A..
 
Dagg Nabbit
Dagg Nabbit
that's awesome, looking forward to seeing that
 
Phrancis
Phrancis
Speaking of which... This needs more input
 
Dagg Nabbit
Dagg Nabbit
6:44 AM
been trying to picture how this would look on my phone
@Phrancis i have trouble expressing my thoughts about designs
 
Phrancis
Phrancis
It would look tiny ... ;)
 
Dagg Nabbit
Dagg Nabbit
not really qualified to do it either
 
Phrancis
Phrancis
Opinions are OK too :)
 
Dagg Nabbit
Dagg Nabbit
yeah i just don't want to sound like an ass picking it apart
 
Phrancis
Phrancis
I'm undecided between top-left and top-right
Bottom one... for a brick&mortar game would look great on a box or board, but not on a card IMO
 
Dagg Nabbit
Dagg Nabbit
6:47 AM
do you think Cyborg Chronicles should be in title case?
ahh, i wouldn't use these for the backs of cards at all... i think it would be too busy
 
Phrancis
Phrancis
IMO it looks good this way... kind of looks like... well... code formatting
(cyborg chronicles) ^^
Please, do post something on there, Jay is trying to make us a great logo but hasn't got much feedback
Personally... given the choice, I would pick top-right... but... in game maybe would not look as good... would look killer on a website
Maybe in game could just be the 3 cards in hand and 4th different colour and looking like a C, and leave out the rest of the writings?
 
Dagg Nabbit
Dagg Nabbit
i'm writing up something now :)
and posted
 
Phrancis
Phrancis
Perfect. I sent him a message on Fakebook to let him know
I'll fire up PowerPoint (blech) and illustrate some of my ideas too
 
 
3 hours later…
skiwi
skiwi
10:03 AM
Monking
@DaggNabbit I found a Java MechanizeAgent library, will try to replicate syborgs code with it
 
 
4 hours later…
skiwi
skiwi
2:07 PM
It's not so busy right now though
 
Dan Pantry
Dan Pantry
I am here now, we can get shit started
 
skiwi
skiwi
Our goal is to make an open-source TCG that uses JavaFX 8 for client side, and internally a mix of Java 8 and Lua
it should be moddable, hence Lua
 
Dan Pantry
Dan Pantry
I have no idea what javafx does though it sounds familiar
I thin ksomeone here mentioned it a couple days back
As for moddable - why are you tying yourself to Lua? You should use the ScriptEngine API Java has
and/or you could use other JVM languages like Groovy, too
I mean Lua is great and all ;-)
 
skiwi
skiwi
JavaFX 8 is the successor of Swing
Lua is great, the idea is that everyone should be able to code something with it
 
janos
janos
what's tcg?
 
skiwi
skiwi
2:11 PM
trading card game
I'm gonna need a favor... my bot needs 20 rep to talk
I'll go make an answer somewhere on SO if 2 people would mind upvoting it
 
Dan Pantry
Dan Pantry
sure thing
bugger
yeah I need a vm for ubuntu
ssh is screwing up on windows
 
skiwi
skiwi
Let me find some question
 
Dan Pantry
Dan Pantry
i have a few unanswered
0
Q: Aptana require not finding file in project

Dan PantryHhey guys, I've been trying to pick Ruby recently and apparently Aptana is one of the better IDEs for use (I am spoiled by .NET and Java's IDEs). So, I picked it up (having not want to splash out for RubyMine - RubyMine's IDE is based off of NetBeans which I never liked anyway) - and I'm having ...

ruby aptana
the problem was that I was using require instead of require_relative and that my scripts weren't on the build path
ify ou just make an answer with that in i'l accept it etc
 
skiwi
skiwi
0
A: UnsupportedOperationException: Not supported yet. in jframe

TCG ChatBotThis means that the constructor of your UserSignUp class (somehow) throws an UnsupportedOperationException, either by itself or via a method call. If you want more help than this, then post more code.

An answer ;)
 
Dan Pantry
Dan Pantry
 
bazola
bazola
2:15 PM
brb and hey @DanPantry
 
Dan Pantry
Dan Pantry
o/
 
skiwi
skiwi
 
Dan Pantry
Dan Pantry
for the card effects
as something that seems to be problematic
you could use a strategy pattern w/ components
 
skiwi
skiwi
need one more for upvote on that
and not gonna do it with my own :P
 
Dan Pantry
Dan Pantry
interface IEffect {
    void execute(IExecutionContext ctx);
}
interface IEffectContainer {
    void add(IEffect);
    void remove(IEffect);
    void disable(IEffect);
    ICollection<IEffect> getActiveEffects();
}
that way you can deal with the whole "removal of deathtouch" mechanic
 
skiwi
skiwi
2:21 PM
I do honestly have no clue right now though were one more coder would be useful... we gotta figure that out
 
Dan Pantry
Dan Pantry
well the way I see it is
some cards have mechanics
some don't
some have mechanics that influence other mechanics
you can't really tie down the mechanic to an enum
so make a strategy pattern
sometimes mechanics can be removed i.e silenced - so make it so you can disable() an effect
 
skiwi
skiwi
Ah, for that part we will most likely be using Lua mostly
The fun thing we have here though is that our Lua objects can be backed by Java objects, thanks to the luaj plugin
 
Dan Pantry
Dan Pantry
that's irrelevant :P it's still the same concept in Lua
 
skiwi
skiwi
The Lua code actually gets compiled to Java bytecode
 
Dan Pantry
Dan Pantry
JIT?
or precompiled?
 
skiwi
skiwi
2:23 PM
Yeah... we're not really sure how we are goign to get all working yet
 
Dan Pantry
Dan Pantry
Haha :P
do we have some kind of redmine up?
That would be useful I think
in addition to the q/a
 
skiwi
skiwi
I'm not exactly sure about that part, I think it gets compiled JIT to Java bytecode
we have the whole Q&A site, which has lots of stuff
and @DaggNabbit has some random gists currently I think, but not yet an overall design
 
Dan Pantry
Dan Pantry
i noticed that, but it doesn't have syntax highlighting it seems
redmine is pretty useful, we use it in work, you can make it be backed by a git repo too
(or even a github repo)
er.. wat
 
skiwi
skiwi
@DanPantry wat
 
janos
janos
@skiwi I edited your bot's answer so I can upvote with clear conscience ;)
 
Dan Pantry
Dan Pantry
2:26 PM
https garbled the english i guess
 
skiwi
skiwi
Awesome, cool @janos :) 
@Override
public void start() {
    loginOpenId();
    System.out.println();

    loginRoot();
    System.out.println();

    loginChat();
    System.out.println();

    String fkey = getFKey();
    System.out.println("Found fkey: " + fkey);
    System.out.println();

    postMessage("this is a damn awesome test", fkey);
}
 
Dan Pantry
Dan Pantry
give it a whack
 
skiwi
skiwi
It would be so cool if it would work in one try here. 
null
<html>
 <head></head>
 <body>
  You must login to post
 </body>
</html>
:(
 
Dan Pantry
Dan Pantry
 
skiwi
skiwi
At least I am logged in to OpenID.
 
Dan Pantry
Dan Pantry
2:29 PM
So there's a GDD somewhere?
 
skiwi
skiwi
It's mostly in our chat room history I'm afraid for now
 
Dan Pantry
Dan Pantry
[INFO] -------------------------------------------------------------
[ERROR] COMPILATION ERROR :
[INFO] -------------------------------------------------------------
[ERROR] No compiler is provided in this environment. Perhaps you are running on a JRE rather than a JDK?
[INFO] 1 error
[tag: here-we-go]
OH REALLY
 
skiwi
skiwi
I also logged into the site root
Then I'm blaming the chat login
Hmm
No referer was present - this may be due to a browser setting
 
Dan Pantry
Dan Pantry
eclipse is crapping itself because I used my quick-fix hotkey on a class that didn't exist
oops
 
skiwi
skiwi
I need to figure out what the referer was
 
Dan Pantry
Dan Pantry
2:33 PM
check the referer header
what compliance level are we running at?
 
skiwi
skiwi
Java 8
 
Dan Pantry
Dan Pantry
awesome
I'l get that jdk then
 
skiwi
skiwi
Problem is that when I try to manually check stackexchange.com/users/chat-login in the browser, it auto redirects :P
 
Dan Pantry
Dan Pantry
lambdas yay
you can check
the referrer header
from the response & request
it's a http header
or you could use POSTman..
 
skiwi
skiwi
maybe my redirecting fails
or perhaps not
 
Dan Pantry
Dan Pantry
2:36 PM
yup, redirects me
but it's not a http redirect, postman would show that
it's http 200
you said you wanted the game to be moddable
I assume you mean server-side
 
skiwi
skiwi
yes
We've got to figure out a system at some point to allow easy distribution of mods, but we do really want all clients to run the same code and not have an OP client that has modded damage values ;)
 
Dan Pantry
Dan Pantry
the client imho should be a dumb terminal
the only mods allowed should be interface ones
otherwise you come up with the issue you just suggested
 
skiwi
skiwi
I would send a referrer with my request... If I knew which one
 
Dan Pantry
Dan Pantry
in other wrods, you can modify the interface and the look of some card backgrounds sure
but you can't modify damage values of cards
unless you mean to say you want the client and server to be distributable, and players to potentially mod their own servers to have their own card sets
 
skiwi
skiwi
indeed, we haven't considered a moddable GUI on the client side yet, but that's an option as far as I see
 
Dan Pantry
Dan Pantry
2:40 PM
in which case you could allow for a card list file that generated a sha hash on each card.
 
skiwi
skiwi
The server will also be distributable I think
 
Dan Pantry
Dan Pantry
if the card the player uses has a hash that isn't compatible with the servers, it is rejected as an invalid card
 
skiwi
skiwi
but players should not run it, only a few players that want to manage their own server, on which they can install whatever mod they want
 
Dan Pantry
Dan Pantry
yeah
like Minecraft
in which case, yeah I can see a solution of how that would work
Server has an internal card database, so does the client
client sends a card list of it's own card to the server with generated sha hashes of each card
or md5 or whatever
if not all of the hashes match, the server tells the client it's outdated or incompatible
and the client cannot connect
 
skiwi
skiwi
Yeah, somewhat like that
 
Dan Pantry
Dan Pantry
2:42 PM
if we end up getting this nailed down
 
skiwi
skiwi
Do you meanwhile have any clue about how I will find out the referrer value? :)
 
Dan Pantry
Dan Pantry
really should put up a kickstarter
Erm, unfortunately, no
you could try checking the http headers of the request
HTTP referer
HTTP referer (originally a misspelling of referrer) is an HTTP header field that identifies the address of the webpage (i.e. the URI or IRI) that linked to the resource being requested. By checking the referer, the new webpage can see where the request originated. In the most common situation this means that when a user clicks a hyperlink in a web browser, the browser sends a request to the server holding the destination webpage. The request includes the referer field, which indicates the last page the user was on (the one where they clicked the link). Referer logging is used to allow websites...
if it's nto there, then I don't know
Fuck me I'm being throttled cus I'm talking so much
 
skiwi
skiwi
Hmm it might open up the global-fallback login, which does need the referrer, but I don't see that in my client
 
Dan Pantry
Dan Pantry
erk
eclipse isn't finding my runtime
 
skiwi
skiwi
What Eclipse are you using?
I heard only newest version has beta Java 8 support?
 
Dan Pantry
Dan Pantry
2:45 PM
it's possible it's out-dated
but it wwasn't recognizing my jre7 either
which was working fine on my own projects
example
 
skiwi
skiwi
Strange, lots of red there
 
Dan Pantry
Dan Pantry
well yeah there's no java runtime library attached
log: 
SLF4J: Failed to load class "org.slf4j.impl.StaticLoggerBinder".
SLF4J: Defaulting to no-operation (NOP) logger implementation
SLF4J: See slf4j.org/codes.html#StaticLoggerBinder for further details.
[INFO] Scanning for projects...
[INFO] ------------------------------------------------------------------------
[INFO] Reactor Build Order:
[INFO]
[INFO] cardshifter
[INFO] cardshifter-fx
[INFO] cardshifter-core
[INFO] cardshifter-module1
[INFO] cardshifter-server
[INFO]
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skiwi
skiwi
Strange
 
Dan Pantry
Dan Pantry
basically it's not finding my jdk or jre
fixed that
now it's complaining about package paths sigh
and the tests are failing because they are using junit 3
I should just use intellij idea huh
 
skiwi
skiwi
or Netbeans ;)
 
Dan Pantry
Dan Pantry
2:54 PM
i hate netbeans
 
skiwi
skiwi
don't :(
 
Dan Pantry
Dan Pantry
:p
 
TCG ChatBot
TCG ChatBot
this is a damn awesome test
 
skiwi
skiwi
OMG!
IT WORKS!
 
Dan Pantry
Dan Pantry
gj :)
what's that for then?
 
TCG ChatBot
TCG ChatBot
2:57 PM
this is a damn awesome test
 
Dan Pantry
Dan Pantry
git commits?
 
skiwi
skiwi
yes
 
Dan Pantry
Dan Pantry
10/10
now to just get a redmine on an amazon ec2 serve
r:D
 
skiwi
skiwi
I can use @Simon's server ;)
time to read up on github post hooks now
 
Dan Pantry
Dan Pantry
wtf
intellij won't open my solution
 
TCG ChatBot
TCG ChatBot
3:09 PM
this is a damn awesome test
this is a damn awesome test
this is a damn awesome test (boot test)
 
skiwi
skiwi
I might want to disable that one
 
TCG ChatBot
TCG ChatBot
this is a damn awesome test (boot test)
 
Dan Pantry
Dan Pantry
lolol
 
TCG ChatBot
TCG ChatBot
this is a damn awesome test (boot test)
 
skiwi
skiwi
Yeah yeah... I know it now, I disabled that ;)
 
bazola
bazola
3:17 PM
@skiwi grats on getting it working
 
skiwi
skiwi
@bazola thanks
 
bazola
bazola
@DanPantry have you designed any games before? we have many decisions still to make on the actual gameplay of the TCG
 
Dan Pantry
Dan Pantry
@bazola I'm 19 what do you think
I have not designed a game, no, I'm just offering opinions on the programming decisions behind the game :;p
 
bazola
bazola
just curious
 
Dan Pantry
Dan Pantry
I know a little about the general idea of making them ie ui/graphic thread should be separate from everything else
and fwiw I play both magic and am playing HS literally right now
 
bazola
bazola
3:21 PM
i am an avid hearthstone player as well, very fun game once you have most of the cards
 
Dan Pantry
Dan Pantry
eh i just need bloodmage thalanos to finish my deck
 
bazola
bazola
that was the first legendary i got if you can believe it
but i have like 20 decks that i like lol
 
Simon André Forsberg
Simon André Forsberg
Hey @DanPantry. I have tried to convince @DaggNabbit of using Entity-Component-System, I haven't really succeeded in that though. Do you know of the ECS pattern?
 
Dan Pantry
Dan Pantry
i do know of it
I don't think there is any need to have a full on ECS
But I certainly think that with the cards that we need some kind of removal/disable/add system
on their effects
Artemis, right?
 
skiwi
skiwi
Hey @SimonAndréForsberg
 
bazola
bazola
3:28 PM
@DanPantry when you put the code above regarding the effect manager thing, that looks very much like ECS to me?
 
Simon André Forsberg
Simon André Forsberg
@DanPantry Artemis is an ECS Library, yes. I did not use that one though but instead made my own. Making the systems and components for ECS can be a bit of work, but I do find that it's pretty much Single Responsibility Principle at it's fullest.
 
Dan Pantry
Dan Pantry
@bazola Artemis is a lot more full-blown than that very contrived example though
@SimonAndréForsberg agreed there
 
skiwi
skiwi
Now I am trying to get an url registered in Spring MVC... and failing 
@Controller
public class HookController {
    @RequestMapping(value = "/payload", method = RequestMethod.GET)
    public void payload(final String jsonString) {
        System.out.println("test /payload: " + jsonString);
        Store.INSTANCE.getChatBot().postMessage("test /payload: " + jsonString);
    }
}
This should work?
 
Dan Pantry
Dan Pantry
-shrug-
 
Simon André Forsberg
Simon André Forsberg
@skiwi Just saying, Spring does have an excellent way of doing Dependency Injection... Store.INSTANCE, ugh. As for whether or not it works, don't know, it's been a while since I used Spring
 
skiwi
skiwi
3:34 PM
@SimonAndréForsberg Well I did read a bit on the @AutoWired, but haven't figured it out exactly yet
You must still be able to remember how to make a Hello World app? :)
 
bazola
bazola
@DaggNabbit thanks for your answer to my question. I will mess with your code snippet and see if I can get it to produce the same results. Definitely it is a lot cleaner. I do like the idea that @Phrancis was talking about though where a user might be able to create a card script by a simple command to Lua, that could be something awesome to explore
 
Dan Pantry
Dan Pantry
What can I get started on in this projet, then?
just about anything?
 
skiwi
skiwi
I think the Lua/Server part is currently a bit locked in by @Simon and me, to keep it a bit non-chaotic
having more devs without a plan is probably not a good idea ;)
 
Dan Pantry
Dan Pantry
exactly
that's why I suggested a redmine :p
I think I might clean up some of the code that's already there I mean
public Game(InputStream file)
ouch
 
skiwi
skiwi
I'd kindly ask you to not mess with it yet, as horrible as it looks :)
Because I'm also on refactoring the current code already
 
Dan Pantry
Dan Pantry
3:40 PM
Haha not even on my own branch and fork? :p
Aha, OK, fair enough
 
skiwi
skiwi
It would be a bit too messy to have two people refactoring on one piece of code ;)
 
Dan Pantry
Dan Pantry
anythign I CAN do then? :P
 
skiwi
skiwi
I'm not sure as of now
we really need to write up a document ;)
 
Dan Pantry
Dan Pantry
idd
I'll leave that to you because i don't know enough :p
 
skiwi
skiwi
I'm still trying to figure out why I cannot get my Spring MVC call to work
 
bazola
bazola
3:44 PM
@DaggNabbit one thing I was wondering, is it possible to read specific lines from a script and save them as strings? So that I could grab a specific function from one script and literally write it into another script, possibly altering it or changing the order of operations etc
 
Dan Pantry
Dan Pantry
erm
I don't think that's possible
Nor should it be because Lua can contain more than one statement per line
 
Simon André Forsberg
Simon André Forsberg
@DanPantry On your own branch I think you can do pretty much anything you want. I can't promise anything about whether or not we'll end up using it though.
 
bazola
bazola
i am sure that it is possible to read in lines from a script, but I need to be able to read in specific lines
 
Simon André Forsberg
Simon André Forsberg
I'll push some server implementation today
 
Dan Pantry
Dan Pantry
@bazola exactly, I don't think that's possible because there is no notion of "read X from Y line"
you would have to read in the entire file and then seek to the lines
opr at the very least count the number of carriage returns/new lines
 
bazola
bazola
3:46 PM
well that might be a potential solution, it doesn't matter if it is difficult as long as it can be done :) and I will be writing the scripts that have the functions I want to grab
really what I want to do is take a function and convert it to a string, I do know that functions can be passed as arguments in Lua
 
Simon André Forsberg
Simon André Forsberg
@DanPantry The script must come from somewhere, must it not?
 
Dan Pantry
Dan Pantry
@SimonAndréForsberg true
erk
ConfigClass myClass = ConfigClass(this.getConfig());
"why does my code not work hur durr"
FYI ConfigClass is a class, not a method
 
Simon André Forsberg
Simon André Forsberg
sigh Why am I not surprised?
 
Dan Pantry
Dan Pantry
in the same thread 
   class MyClass {
       public static MyClass instance;
       void enable() { instance = this; }
   }
 
Simon André Forsberg
Simon André Forsberg
I think many Bukkit plugin developers are entirely new to Java, perhaps new to programming in general. And even if they don't, they just don't know how to... debug problems.
 
Dan Pantry
Dan Pantry
3:57 PM
They are, I learned Java through it
But, still, there's one thing being wrong, and another not knowing the basics
 
Simon André Forsberg
Simon André Forsberg
@DanPantry The singleton / public static pattern is way too common there
 
Dan Pantry
Dan Pantry
"Singleton? Only way to call methods on another instance of an object!"
;---;
i haven't used a singleton in nearly 2 years
 
Simon André Forsberg
Simon André Forsberg
Same here I think
Don't miss it one bit
Tell, don't ask
 
Dan Pantry
Dan Pantry
Only reason i DID use a singleton was because the system I was working with at the time had so many singletons it was practically the only way to add to the object graph
it was C++ as well which was even worse
 
Simon André Forsberg
Simon André Forsberg
Heh
Oh well, time to start Eclipse
 
Dan Pantry
Dan Pantry
3:59 PM
I have the new eclipse installed just waiting on instruction for where I can start :')
until then, League of Legends!
 
Simon André Forsberg
Simon André Forsberg
Ugh, no cursing here please!
 
Dan Pantry
Dan Pantry
fix'd
 
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