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1:00 PM
I remember peeling one once (vaguely)...
 
they have a slightly sweet, slightly aniseed taste
you have to peel them and cut out the core, which can be woody
 
They look kind of like white carrots, right?
 
yeah
I honey roast them for the missus at Christmas
 
Not to be confused with parsley roots, though.
 
never even heard of those
 
1:02 PM
Really? How do you make soup?
 
I'm due to make a "winter is here" slow cooked stew. I'll be sure to include parsnips. Maybe turnips too.
 
Parsley or garden parsley (Petroselinum crispum) is a species of Petroselinum in the family Apiaceae, native to the central Mediterranean region (southern Italy, Greece, Algeria, and Tunisia), naturalized elsewhere in Europe, and widely cultivated as a herb, a spice, and a vegetable. Where it grows as a biennial, in the first year, it forms a rosette of tripinnate leaves 10–25 cm (3.9–9.8 in) long with numerous 1–3 cm (0.4–1.2 in) leaflets, and a taproot used as a food store over the winter. Parsley is widely used in European, Middle Eastern, and American cooking. Curly leaf parsley is often used...
 
@Stephie without parsley roots?
do you just mean parsley? :)
I've never hard of parsley root specifically, as a food stuff or otherwise
I despise the plant in any case
 
I'm not a fan of parsley either.
 
tastes like grass
 
1:04 PM
I don't hate it like I hate tarragon, but I never buy it.
 
likewise
 
That reminds me!
 
parsley root does look very similar to parsnip
apparently closely related
 
I bought cilantro last time I was at the store and I didn't get home with it.
 
1:06 PM
damn escaping cilantro
 
Well look at that. TIL about parsley root. Ain't Google grand.
 
@Stephie has gone quiet. I think she's positively sputtering in disbelief of our lack of parsley root knowledge
 
Maybe the mice ran off with it. The other day I saw one go through the vent on my stove, but then he disappeared. I can't figure out how he got out.
 
"aber... aber... aber ... wie?!"
mice can pass through a hole the diameter of a pencil
their bones are very loosely attached
 
I couldn't even find a hole that big.
He should have been trapped in the oven.
 
1:10 PM
I take it rutabaga is more common in the US than parsnip jojo?
 
Did I ever tell you about my savanna monitor, Mister Lizard?
 
it's coming up to St. Andrew's day, you should all make haggis, neeps and tatties
 
Rutabagas are almost unheard of.
 
Really?
weird
 
I can't even picture what one looks like.
 
1:11 PM
must be some massive conspiracy put forth by the Idaho Potato Marketing Board
 
@ElendilTheTall nope, ferrying minor 2 to dance class.
 
THERE IS ONLY ONE ROOT VEGETABLE
The rutabaga (from an old Swedish dialectal word), swede (from Swedish turnip), turnip, or neep (Brassica napobrassica, or Brassica napus var. napobrassica, or Brassica napus subsp. rapifera) is a root vegetable that originated as a cross between the cabbage and the turnip. The roots are prepared for human food in a variety of ways, and the leaves can be eaten as a leaf vegetable. The roots and tops are also used as winter feed for livestock, when they may be fed directly, or by allowing the animals to forage the plants in the field. == Etymology == Rutabaga has many national and regional names...
 
Well carrots too. But that pretty much sums it up.
 
and sweet potatoes/yam
what about beetroot?
 
Sweet potatoes are on the very short list of foods that I actually dislike.
Once I had a really awesome tempura with sweet potatoes, but that's the only time I have liked them.
 
1:13 PM
I love me some sweet potato fries
 
I don't like pumpkin either, which really baffled SAJ.
 
@Stephie how easily can you get hold of Haggis in Germany?
@Jolenealaska the only time I've ever eaten pumpkin was when I bought a can in Boston and made a pie with it on request from my sister
just reminded me of sweet potato/butternut squash
 
For some reason pumpkin pie is a requirement of Thanksgiving. Every year I try a bite, and I just don't get it.
 
do you generally dislike sweet things mixed with savoury?
like, cheese and fruit?
 
I love cheese and fruit. I would say that I like mixing sweet and savory. I really like hot and sweet.
 
1:17 PM
which is why you like Cock so much?
 
Something I'm going to get into this winter is making kimchee.
 
(Cock brand sauce, that is)
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I've never had kimchee
fermented spicy cabbage right?
not a great deal of Korean cooking here
 
I do. I have two bottles of Cock sauce on the counter as we speak :-)
 
it's addictive
and you get acclimatised to it
 
Most kimchee is cabbage, but there are other types. The standard hot fermented cabbage is the one I will start with.
 
1:19 PM
the more you have, the more you need to satisfy the craving
 
@ElendilTheTall that is very true
 
I had an epiphany the other day
 
I have a favorite hot pepper that would blow the lid off most people, and I'm starting to get acclimated to it.
 
I made chilli, and also made two-cheese cornbread muffins to go with it
I was starving, so I took a moist, melty muffin and squirted on some sriracha
it was awesome
then it hit me
make a cream cheese and sriracha 'frosting'
add some intense red food colouring like I have for macarons
 
oooh!
 
1:21 PM
green muffin cases
savoury sriracha cheese cupcakes
 
That would be really cool!
 
Pinterest/Instagram/Reddit would lap that shit up
 
:-)
Internet star for a day
 
I can see the epiphany sequence in my life story now
i bite into the muffin, and then an intricate Buddhism inspired graphics sequence ensues
buddhas holding muffins
mandalas swirling
sitars sitarring
 
You are way too fun at 5 AM.
 
1:23 PM
That's what she said...
 
:-)
My kimchi project should be fun. I really want to replicate that amazing pork kimchi soup from Etawon.
I have been to so many little Korean restaurants hoping for soup that good, but nothing ever has been even close. It was killer hot.
 
I'll take one!
 
yours for 6 grand
 
For some reason Dragon decided that last line meant it should draw the table.
 
Which is even more dollars! I haven't looked at the exchange rate lately, has Brexit affected it?
 
$7330
Fortnum and Mason is the Queen's grocer
 
meh
not my cup of tea as you know
 
I found my recipe. It was the very first Google hit, and it's exactly what I was looking for.
Refrigerate up to one month? no way. I mean I would eat it before a month was up, but you can keep the stuff in your refrigerator for years.
Still tasty doesn't have a listing for kimchi, but it gives open sauerkraut one week in the fridge. Give me a break.
 
1:45 PM
@ElendilTheTall on a scale of 1-10? Perhaps 0.4?
 
@ElendilTheTall do you really eat haggis? I can't believe Dragon got haggis right on the first try.
One of my favorite Chopped episodes was a celebrity tournament. Ann Burrell won the round that included canned haggis.
The face she made when she opened the can was priceless.
 
I think the koreans bury theirs
 
They used to, it's not so common anymore
At least not in the city.
I finally found a brand that I like, but it's way too expensive. The first batch of kimchee that I make will be expensive, but after that it's pretty cheap.
 
intitial cutlery cost?
 
Cutlery means knives to me. Some of the more obscure ingredients will set me back, but not too badly because I know where to shop for them.
 
1:54 PM
ah
heh. This being singapore. We have a korean supermarket chain
 
We actually have a fairly high population of Koreans in Anchorage. We don't have any Korean supermarkets, but we have some great hole in the wall shops.
 
@Jolenealaska why wouldn't I? :)
 
@ElendilTheTall I can't even imagine it.
 
it's just a glorified sausage
 
Well that sounds better than the description I've read.
 
1:58 PM
it's always described as LUNGS AND OFFAL IN A SHEEP'S STOMACH which makes it sound awful
but if you described your average hot dog as MECHANICALLY SEPARATED PIG HEAD AND ASSHOLE IN AN INTESTINE it doesn't sound any better
and at least with haggis you don't eat the stomach :)
@Stephie I can have a haggis to you by the middle of next week for £12
 
We have something similar, one former chancellor was famous for serving it to state guests.
@ElendilTheTall Time for Burns supper again?
 
how about now?
@Stephie no, St Andrew's Day
Burns Night is January
I could give you my Chicken Balmoral recipe
 
I am now severely craving Haggis. I positively love it.
 
it's fucking awesome
 
2:03 PM
What's St Andrew's Day?
 
November 30th
Scotland's saint's day?
 
Haggis is what sausage wants to be when it grows up.
 
Ah.
 
I like haggis, neeps and tatties, but Chicken Balmoral is my preferred haggis delivery method
Chicken breast, stuffed with haggis, wrapped in parma ham/speck, served with a creamy whisky and chicken sauce
ooo, haggis with a dragged quenelle
 
fancy!
Speaking of, I like this food writer I just found:
 
2:08 PM
@ElendilTheTall yes, please!
 
I'll e-mail it
 
Geeeee, this is slooooow. I'm in town, downloading photos on one of those "print here" machines.
@ElendilTheTall thanks!
I need a protective thingy for my mobile and want a personalized one.
 
Only have a sec. In southeast VA and northeast NC we have a variation called a dandoodle. We can get it fresh, cured, or smoked.
 
a variation of what?
:)
 
Haggis.
 
2:14 PM
Most cultures found ways to use the less glamorous parts of their animals.
 
But it's a pig stomach rather than sheep.
 
cured haggis?
odd
the ancient Greeks had a form of haggis
 
OOOH I found a great video for the guy who's asking all of the knife questions.
 
@Cindy like the "Saumagen" I mentioned earlier.
 
2:15 PM
@ElendilTheTall They love smoked, cured, and dried sausage here. I'm not a fan. I like fresh.
You guys reminded me, too, that I haven't had rutabagas in a while.
They will definitely show up on the menu this week.
 
mashed with carrots
yummy
@Stephie recipe sent
 
 
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3:43 PM
@dpollitt I bet you would find this website useful: startcooking.com/video/three-good-kitchen-knives
 
 
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5:55 PM
@Jolenealaska Nice thanks!
 
I"m going to need another knife rack.
 
6:10 PM
wow, I use two knives for almost everything, I cannot compete with that
(do have I think five more, a few spares plus serrated and one more length, but still, that is a lot!)
 
6:44 PM
I use the chef's knife primarily, rarely touch the santoku knives unless I'm plowing through a lot of chopping. I get half sides of beef from the butcher so the butcher's knife, boning knife and cleaver gets a fair bit of use, the smaller knives get frequent use for garnishes.
Don't use the serrated one much, only for crusty bread.
I'm going to set up another area in my kitchen just for butchery, because I have even more stuff I want at arm's length when I come back from the butcher
(I tend to buy very large, cheap cuts with all the fat and skin still on)
 
@Stephie. Thanks again! Made my day, answer updated
@TimPost you don't need guns: if anyone tries burgling your house you can:
* Skin them
* Remove their bones
* hack all meat into large pieces
* cut it into small pieces.
* peel any fruit they're carrying
 
If anyone breaks into my house I give the boning knife to my two year old, point at the burglar and say BIG BIRD! (She hates big bird)
 
What's the machete for?
@TimPost LOL
 
That's not a machete, that's a butcher's knife.
 
Serves what purpose?
 
6:52 PM
You can control the tip of a chef's knife when you pull it, the butchers knife gives you good control when you push it.
 
Aaah!
You're missing a bread knife, though!
 
Nope, it's there, look closer :)
5th from the left
 
Ah! yes!
Needed to zoom in to max to see the teeth!
Good knife rack too! Double magnets!
I looked for 3 years for one just like that.
Most have only 1 strip of magnets. :)
OK, meeting starts. Outta here!
 
I want to get one where the outside is wood, it's easy to knick those santoku knives pulling them off.
 
7:08 PM
What's the least annoying free recipe app for IOS?
 
@TimPost what do you do with the leftovers? (Not that there are many, I guess, with proper butchering and creativity.)
 
7:25 PM
@Stephie Clean chunks of fat go for suet. Meat scraps go for empanada filling which I just melt down in a pressure cooker, not much you can do with silver skin, bones go to the stock pot, marrow bones get broiled and eaten (beef) For pork, excess fat goes to chicharon.
I use fish heads / spines for stock, I usually cook everything else shell-on including prawns.
 
I love it when cooks can use everything.
My pet peeve are those cooks that can handle a tenderloin but have no clue what to do with the rest of the animal.
 
Yeah I hate waste. It's hard because I cook for 3 different diets. My wife doesn't eat beef or pork, my daughters hate anything braised or slow cooked, only I like chili so there's a very interesting selection of leftovers in my fridge at any given time.
 
LOL.
We have only one outlier here, food-wise.
 
Fortunately, everyone loves fresh pasta and pies. I can hide short ribs in a meat pie and my daughters love it, or even use it in pasta.
It's a texture thing, I think.
I'd rather have a medium-rare beef shoulder sliced very thinly than fillet, to be honest.
 
<thumbs up>
My current kitchen challenge are vegetarian main dishes that are kid-friendly, quick/easy to prepare and have no "exotic" flavour profile.
For some reason both of my kids have choosen vegetarian BFFs.
 
7:34 PM
Do they mind chili?
 
Some do. It depends, one absolutely loves chili con carne, the other can't handle the heat.
And minor 2 also hates it, so that won't be on the menu when her friend comes over.
I'm always happy when her second-best friend visits: she has a clear favourite food and has even asked for it.
 
I steam broccoli with one star anise (whole), two crushed cardamom pods, two cloves and a pinch of celery salt in the water. That gives "this tastes good but I don't know why" so I put some cheese sauce or burre blanc with a bit of chili in it to balance it out and that's been picky-kid approved quite a few times.
Green cardamom pods
And then they blame the cheese sauce for it tasting good :D
Good cheese sauce, dad (I don't care, they ate the goddamn broccoli)
 
Lovely! Minor 1 has requested broccoli the other day, I'll give it a test.
 
Throw some cinnamon bark or five spice in it too if they like sweeter things.
(in the water)
 
You are making me hungry!
(Had no supper and it's almost 10 pm here.)
 
7:43 PM
You need to eat.
 
Is it too late for grilled cheese? >.<
 
NEVER
 
I bought that super cute square pan a few weeks ago in London. It's the perfect size for a slice of toast.
 
I love grilled cheese :)
 
It's kind of ironic: I came back from Zumba a while ago and now I'm cooking grilled cheese.
I'll add a few alibi crudités. <rummages in the veggie drawer>
 
7:56 PM
I put a bit of toasted parma ham in mine. But then again, I'd probably be quite happy with a salt lick that folks usually give to hamsters.
 
Now that's quite nice.
 
Lighting abysmal, smell devine ;-)
 
I can't be bothered to go through much fuss when I'm feeding myself. But I tend to go to extreme fuss when I'm feeding 15 - 20.
Which is pretty much every weekend here.
 
Friends & family?
 
8:01 PM
Family. We try to get everyone together on Sundays for supper and movies.
And we have a huge extended family.
 
Do you take turns hosting that crowd?
 
No, I'm the only one that knows how to cook.
 
Wow!
 
Well that's not true actually. All of them can cook, I've just become known for prawns that aren't rubber.
 
Ah. Those cooks.
We have enough of them in the family, too.
<thinks of the annual Christmas goose, shudders>
Unfortunately, some insist to host certain events.
 
8:08 PM
In Asia (where the holiday is observed), it's very common to go out for Christmas dinner. As many get money as a present, they're eager to spend it, so everything is generally open.
What you cook at home is the feast of Christmas eve, served at midnight precisely.
It prolongs my sobriety, but I really love putting food out then. There's no expectations or conventions, I can just cook whatever I want.
 
Christmas here starts on Christmas Eve. Church (optional), light supper, presents. Perhaps midnight mass, again optional.
The 25th is the big family day, often with the roast goose.
And every year I try to salvage the bird, somehow.
There is underdone, just done, really done and dried out.
 
Christmas here starts in October. It's not a marketing thing, people just really love Christmas.
 
My MIL has constantly been moving towards the last stage, reaching it since two years ago.
@TimPost that's two months of Christmas?
Or three?
 
Do you break down your goose? Or just cook it whole?
A goose or turkey, I break it down and cook it in sections.
 
Whole. And always the exact same way, from filling to side dishes.
Every year I fear I will start to scream. Instead, I have another glass of wine.
The years when I was pregnant or breastfeeding were hard.
 
8:21 PM
You're brave :) I break them down and time it so it's all served at once.
 
Ha, I wish. My MIL is one of the worst organized cooks you have ever seen. She's not a bad cook, just has absolutely no sense of timing, order or organisation.
 
But then again on new years I serve a few pork tenderloins drunk on sangria on top of seaweed with muscles and a few dipping sauces. Breaking with tradition was pretty easy here.
(mostly because there wasn't one)
 
New Year or New Year's Eve?
 
Eve. On new year's day I typically cook duck or goose.
Goose is hard to come by here.
Failing that, 4 or so cornish hens.
 
Do you have a party on New Y. E.?
 
8:29 PM
@Stephie Yes. We have a non-alcoholic party occasionally. But it's not entirely non-alcoholic, adults get access to alcohol after being fed at 12 AM so the kids have a nicer time.
 
I must admit, I kind of love the traditions around Advent, Christmas, New Year. And making new ones with the kids.
 
Out of the ~20 people that show up to our 60 square meter condo, half are kids.
So we have to be a tad careful regarding how soon the adults go loopy.
 
I see...
 
Because in many parts of Asia, we sort of bottle it all up, because it's not proper at all to talk about it, and once the wine hits .. out it comes.
That's when I serve pie.
 
You're a wise cook!
 
8:42 PM
You gotta understand your customers.
And make the bottom crust twice as thick. They're drunk, they'll assume it's their fault.
Point is, they chew instead of speaking.
Just have to make the filling worth it, which isn't hard :)
 
And if everything turns out right, they will be full, relaxed and tired - Parasympathetic nervous system taking over.
Speaking of tired: I should really sleep now, alarm is set to 5:40 as usual.
I enjoyed chatting with you! Good night!
 
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