The DMZ

Fine, but I have an embarrassing question. I have an email with a PGP signature attached. I use plain GnuPG in command line and I've only ever used inline signatures. How the hell do I verify it?

> This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156)

MechMK1

You mean a detached signature?

forest

7:31 AM

I really don't want to read the whole RFC (they aren't relevant to this anyway).

I have the detached signature. I know how to verify detached signatures of course.

MechMK1

gpg --verify doc.sig doc

forest

The problem is I don't know what "doc" should be. I know how to verify detached signatures but usually I have two files. In this case, I have an email which I can copy paste, but naturally putting the copy-pasted email into a file and verifying that results in a bad signature.

MechMK1

That is a good question...

forest

It seems to me like this is something an email program with an OpenPGP plugin would handle.

MechMK1

That's why you don't put detached signatures over emails

Yes, enigmail does this

If you're unlucky, it may be over some headers too, but not over others

forest

7:35 AM

> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256;

MechMK1

I'd say if in doubt, treat it as not verifiable and ask for a clearsign

forest

Never saw that. I hate email.

MechMK1

Oh, so there is a specific part that is signed over?

forest

@MechMK1 I have a draft reply written up for that if I really have to.

Well, that's from the raw email headers.

MechMK1

I hate e-mail too, because it's a frankenprotocol. With bits of shit attached all over

And every year, new extensions and such come out

forest

7:36 AM

Under that and the other headers is, of course

> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

Oh well. I'll just ask for a clearsign.

At least then the only danger is email mangling the message, and that's easy enough to correct.

MechMK1

One thing I also saw was people trying to generate GPG signatures over rich text documents (e.g. .doc files) by just copy, pasting them to notepad first and then making the signature over that

Also, if you want to entertain yourself, read the comments to this answer:

20

A: Keep password in macro

This is a bad idea. As user mentioned in a comment, anyone with physical access can just press the assigned macro key and the password will be revealed. You also have a high chance of accidentally pressing the macro key, thus typing in your password in places where you didn't mean to. The macr...

forest

-1 since this answer is utterly wrong: password managers are just as vulnerable to phishing as users, except the failure mode is completely automatic without user noticing; with macro keys only the user can trigger it so user knows exactly when they've inputted the password in unwanted places. It also doesn't help if users think the website is legitimate but password manager disagrees, which then the user will "fix" it, so in the end it just introduces a new point of failure. — Voile 5 hours ago

omg

I had to reply.

@MechMK1 As wrong as this guy is, he has a Touhou avatar so I can't hate him.

MechMK1

8:14 AM

@forest He is called Voile, so it's a clear reference to The Embodiment of Scarlet Devil, yet his avatar is Yuyuko is from Perfect Cherry Blossom

forest

So he just likes Touhou and can't decide of EoSD or PCB is better. :P

(The answer is, of course, PCB, although EoSD with the 3rd party sprites comes close)

MechMK1

I was about to say obviously EoSD is better

But that may just be bias since it's the first Touhou game I have ever played

First mainline touhou game. Actually Scarlet Weather Rhapsody was first

forest

First Touhou game I played was HRtP (though obviously not when it first came out).

So I actually played them in order, and only discovered the fandom when I hit the Windows games.

MechMK1

That was PC Engine era, wasn't it?

forest

NEC PC9801, yes.

The first 5 were PC98 games. I love their music.

MechMK1

8:18 AM

I never played PC98 era touhou. To me, it was mostly Touhou 6-9

and 10.5

But man, the soundtrack...

forest

I've played up to... that one with Clownpiece.

After that, personal life issues came up and I didn't have time for games.

(They still aren't resolved ;_;)

MechMK1

Man, I wish I could help :(

Though things on my end are getting better

My girlfriend is working on her insecurities, and I can tell she's taking things serious

Although she still has this irrational hatred for anything related to Japan

forest

Maybe she'll realize that weeb stuff isn't really that bad. :P

damn

MechMK1

When she saw that I wrote that I liked Touhou, we were shouting at each other for hours

forest

Holy shit

MechMK1

8:21 AM

Well, in her mind anything even remotely related to japan is by default degenerate

forest

So by hate, you really mean hate.

MechMK1

Yes, in the actual sense of the word

forest

She saw you wrote it where, here?

MechMK1

The only exception is stuff published by Studio Ghibli

Yes, here

forest

So she reads your chat transcripts lol

MechMK1

8:22 AM

Yeah, which is still...well, things are the way they are

But well, I told her I listen to some japanese music and she just has to deal with it

forest

I could never stand someone who invaded my privacy like that (not that I consider that I have a reasonable expectation of privacy on a public, permanently-archived chat transcript, of course)

What is it about Japan that she hates?

MechMK1

I also told her I'm occassionally on 4chan, which was also a big fight

forest

Well you're on /k/ which isn't a Japanese-related board.

MechMK1

Is your gpg key still valid, then I can tell you the whole story

forest

Not still valid. I'll create a new one. Link to a room to post it in?

MechMK1

8:23 AM

I'll make one

I think you got an invite

forest

Send me your public key and I'll send you mine.

Okay, just a sec

(no need to sign)

still the same key

Public key sent encrypted to your public key.

MechMK1

8:31 AM

Man, now I need to remember my password :D

forest

heh

I don't use a password, since it's ephemeral anyway.

It's kept in tmpfs.

MechMK1

alright, I got it

Now time to write

Rory Alsop

Heh - was just about to delete all Voile's nonsense and Schroeder got to it 32 seconds before me :-)

forest

I was wondering when it'd get moved to chat. :P

MechMK1

Long overdue

forest

8:37 AM

To be honest, I've seen worse nonsense than just a hatred for password managers.

Rory Alsop

Well - I was asleep, and I'm not back on full moderating duties yet...

forest

For some reason, infosec seems to attract people with some very... wrong ideas.

MechMK1

Dunning-Kruger goes Info Sec basically

Rory Alsop

yeah

I think some people understand a fragment of something that the public doesn't, and they think they're special all of a sudden

forest

Plus the high number of misconceptions around security policy.

E.g. SSH security advice (going to sudo after SSHing in instead of SSHing in as root with a public key because everyone says not to allow root SSH? Woot, not I got root because you don't understand privilege boundaries!) Etc. Cryptography has it even worse. Crypto.SE gets weirdos regularly.

Overall, I have to say this is a very fun field, even if only because of the crazies. :D

MechMK1

8:46 AM

Same here. I was so excited to get to 10k just to see the insanity

Finally done writing

Tell me if you decrypted it successfully

OpSec fails episode 7148

forest

ikr

Decrypted successfully.

MechMK1

shred -x to the rescue

It's ephemeral anyways

forest

Not a big deal. I just encrypt public keys because why not.

Strictly speaking, it's not even necessary given RSA is secure.

I just do it out of habit.

MechMK1

Yes, it's not a bad habit either

At least until quantum computing gets going. Any second now...

forest

Crypto.SE has a lot of questions and answers about that.

tl;dr we're nowhere close yet

(but it could come at any time)

MechMK1

8:55 AM

At this point it's just speculation

forest

@MechMK1 security.stackexchange.com/questions/182800/…

enjoy

MechMK1

I remember that one

forest

@MechMK1 It's a fascinating subject. Right now it's very much an issue of creating qubits with sufficient cohesion that can operate for a non-negligible amount of time before decoherence.

MechMK1

OTR, my advice is to try to blacklist the hypervisor first, then patch the encryption routines in the kernel to backdoor the root user. I mean, that's like hacking 101 stuff, but everybody starts somewhere

forest

There are "noisy qubits" which only require nearest-neighbor connectivity, but far more of them are required (like, 10 million rather than merely twice the modulus size).

MechMK1

8:59 AM

Man, I know far too little about quantum computing to know what's stopping progress. I don't even know what a qubit is, physically :D

forest

It can be a lot of things. A trapped ion, a tangled photon, etc.

All it has to be is something that can exist in a superposition and can be manipulated.

I'm sure there's more to it, but that's my understanding.

MechMK1

Too meatspace for me

security.stackexchange.com/a/222257/163495

Another answer where people claim firmware to be infected

MechMK1

10:19 AM

I just love discussions about FLAC versus MP3. One half shouts "Nooo, you can't hear a difference! Stop pretending!" while the other half shouts "I do hear a difference!"

I just use FLAC because mp3 really doesn't offer that much of a benefit to me

Anders

@MechMK1 There is no bigger waste of time than theoretical discussions about empirical questions that could easily be settled by a blind test.

MechMK1

@Anders Yes, the perceived "quality" advantage of FLAC can't be heard by 99.9999999% of people out there

I just like to store data as it comes off the CD. I have several terabyte of storage, so the upside of "lower storage requirement" is not really an advantage for me

Anders

@MechMK1 I remember there was a trend to use black marker on the thin edge around CDs. Apparently it would increase the sound quality.

But you are right, that you can't hear the difference doesn't mean FLAC is useless.

MechMK1

@Anders I don't know why it would do that. CDs store data in a digital format

If the claim would have been "reduces number of reading failures in bumpy car rides", I may have bought it

But since CD data is digital, you can either read the PCM stream in perfect quality, or not at all

Journeyman Geek

@MechMK1 on the other hand...

MechMK1

10:30 AM

@Anders The upside of FLAC is that if you need lossy compression (e.g. to write to a mobile device), you can generate that on-the-fly

Journeyman Geek

^^^

Its a great archival format

and space is reasonably cheap

@MechMK1 though... CDs have robust error correction and stuff

+ at the risk of being that guy

the magic markers were green

MechMK1

Yes, absolutely. And given that it's free, I can be reasonably sure that software able to decode it will be available in decades still

Journeyman Geek

Mocking audiophile bull is a fairly established sport in my chatroom :D

Anders

@JourneymanGeek Off course! Black markers would be ridiculous! How silly of me. :-)

MechMK1

@JourneymanGeek Yes I know. EAC tells me whenever it had to use error correction during a rip

Also, one other advantage is editing

Journeyman Geek

10:32 AM

Don't forget the magic rocks

MechMK1

I can edit a flac file as often as I want and it would not lose quality

Anders

@JourneymanGeek Magic rocks???

MechMK1

Where as if I would do the same with MP3, I would continulously apply lossy compression

Journeyman Geek

....

Dude. How did you not know about the magic rocks?

MechMK1

Tell us the tale of the magic rocks

For I am ignorant as well

Anders

10:33 AM

Please educate me!

Journeyman Geek

Oh god

machinadynamica.com/machina31.htm

machinadynamica.com/index.html on the whole is a great troll

get caught up and let me know. I have stories

Anders

Oh my god. This is a gold mind.

Journeyman Geek

jcat.eu/product/net-card-femto

I found the manual and that's a ... 50 dollar network card with a branded PCB and a heatsink

and unlike MD - this is actually almost serious

MechMK1

Damn, it's as if these people wanted to be scammed

Journeyman Geek

10 000 dollar power cables?

is a thing

its literally a PC kettle style lead with a oversleeve and a bunch of sandblastic media

Anders

10:37 AM

I will quit my job and start selling audio equipment.

MechMK1

Though I have to say, I hear a lot of people dabbing on Tidal. I actually used it to buy Fear Inoculum and it worked perfectly

And regarding that, I have to tell you the funniest comment I have ever read on youtube

Journeyman Geek

Lets consider this

My country burns trash and dinosaur farts, I mean natural gas.

then sends the power through whatever cables the lowest bidder sold

to my apartment, wired with builk cable by an old chainsmoking electrician

and yet

that last 2 feet of cable apparently matters

Anders

@JourneymanGeek Quiet! Your critical thinking will disturb the audio waves.

Journeyman Geek

....

I'm actually shocked no one introduced you guys to the sport of audiophile snark

Meanwhile...

I'm a little picky over my headphones (I love my FA003s and am sad they are no longer in production) - and I do actually have some dedicated audio gear.

MechMK1

Guy One writes:
> My 7-year-old daughter just listened to this track and said "Wow, those two drummers sound really great" and I said "Yeah, Danny Carey is a genius" and she was so surprized it was just one drummer. Now she's in her room and I can hear the album on repeat. So proud of her.

To that, Guy Two replies:
> Yeah, something similar happened to me. I was just listening to Pneuma, when my 3-month-old son came by and said: "You know Dad, I don't want to be *that guy*, but I think we should all give the album some time to unfold before writing overly positive or negative reviews of Fe…

Journeyman Geek

10:42 AM

but seriously, your hearing is not that good

MechMK1

@JourneymanGeek I just recently got myself a pair of WH-1000XM3 and I'm really happy with them

Journeyman Geek

My favourite 3.5mm interconnects?

"Er... they're purple. From DX"

MechMK1

They're comfortable to wear, the battery lasts quite long and the noise cancelling is really nice

Journeyman Geek

though I do subscribe to geek's theory of "If you can beat someone with it, and it still works, its good"

MechMK1

A good way of looking at things

But in regards to Fear Inoculum: I really like the album, especially the first half. The later songs I haven't had as much time to listen to yet, but I like what I hear so far

Journeyman Geek

10:45 AM

Its like food ;p

Some people talk about the nuances - but I just want to have something that makes me feel happy :D

MechMK1

Absolutely. Except that food is (usually) a natural product, meaning that there are always subtle nuances

I can absolutely believe that someone can taste the difference between wine of the same region, of different years

Journeyman Geek

sure but some folks are just so...

uhm

what's the right word

snooty over it

MechMK1

The best thing is when people claim they can hear a difference between 44khz and 88 khz

No, you can't, because your hearing only goes to 21khz AT BEST

And 44khz can replicate those signals perfectly

Journeyman Geek

lol

the 44khz isn't dynamic range

its sample rate

MechMK1

Yes, I know. But sampling rate directly corelates to the highest frequencies that can be reproduced

Journeyman Geek

10:49 AM

eh, a bit.

but also other stuff

MechMK1

As in?

Journeyman Geek

well in theory, how close to analog it is

and y'all probably would get the shannon theorem better than I do

MechMK1

Yes, but let's imagine a simple sine wave with 100 hz

I would need a sample rate of at least 200 hz to be able to perfectly replicate a 100hz signal. A higher sample rate would not give me additional benefits

Nyquist rate

In signal processing, the Nyquist rate, named after Harry Nyquist, is twice the bandwidth of a bandlimited function or a bandlimited channel. This term means two different things under two different circumstances: as a lower bound for the sample rate for alias-free signal sampling (not to be confused with the Nyquist frequency, which is half the sampling rate of a discrete-time system) and as an upper bound for the symbol rate across a bandwidth-limited baseband channel such as a telegraph line or passband channel such as a limited radio frequency band or a frequency division multiplex channel...

If someone were to claim that they could hear the difference between 24 and 16 bit PCM streams, I could believe it more - even though it's probably not true

Reminds me of Colin from CSGuitar, who also likes to make fun of audiophiles with the phrase "DEM TONES BRAH"

Anyways, time for me to eat

Conor Mancone

11:52 AM

So, long rant. Our company's windows server (used as the work machine for all official employees via RDP) got hit by ransomware 121 days ago. This is a system that I have nothing to do with - it is managed by a contractor who is an old school windows sysadmin. Ransomware got in because of an open RDP connection and everyone used 'password' for their password

We had backups but there was still a half day when no one could work

The sysadmin "removed" the virus and called it a day. I used this opportunity to suggest we implement better security policies (password rules, VPN/firewall) and training. The sysadmin responded by setting an 8 character minimum length for passwords and requiring password rotation every 90 days.

I objected strenuously - 8 character minimum is ridiculous because it still allows 'password'. I opted for 12 character minimum and no rotation requirement, citing the NIST. I also suggested banning leaked passwords, which I knew wasn't going to happen.

He responded by setting the minimum password length to 10 and the rotation period to 120 days. The owner was clearly uninterested in further discussion and so i dropped it

Today the head of accounting showed up early to catch up on some vendor payments. His password had expired and he is unable to login, so he reached out to me. Of course I can't help him, so I reached out to the sysadmin and cc'd the owner, politely requesting assistance. I'm sure the sysadmin will respond in a few hours.

All this to say what I couldn't say in my email: I freakin' told you so :p

Sorry, had to say that somewhere :)

MechMK1

12:08 PM

Let me read that quickly

Wow, what a douche^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hn uninformed individual

Conor Mancone

lol

I feel bad for the head of accounting. He's the hardest working guy in the office (except the owner). He showed up early to get shit done, and instead of getting in 10 hours of work, he's going to end up with a 5 hour work day

Not that he'll just sit around. He'll find something to do, he just won't be anywhere near as productive

still no VPN. Fortunately a 10 character password will probably stop this from happening again...

MechMK1

Hopefully

But checking against a list of compromised passwords is really necessary

Conor Mancone

12:25 PM

This is actually the second time the company server was hit by ransomware

it's an expensive lesson to learn even once. I was surprised the owner was not a bit more serious about making some positive security changes...

Third times a charm?

MechMK1

At least you seem to have good backups

Conor Mancone

12:46 PM

Never underestimate the power of backups.

MechMK1

I am so tempted to write a question like "How to make backups correctly?"

But I am afraid it'd be too broad

MechMK1

1:24 PM

@ConorMancone By the way, do you want to see what I am getting for my girlfriend for christmas?

Since we spoke about that not too long ago

Conor Mancone

Sure!

There was a pretty decent backups question recently...

I finally had a couple good ideas for christmas presents for my wife, which I was pretty excited about. I normally have a hard time coming up with even one thing, and she loves getting good presents

MechMK1

Who doesn't? :D

Conor Mancone

Indeed!

MechMK1

Great, now the wobsite doesn't work

Conor Mancone

Ah yes, actually has a pretty good answer

3

Q: How to keep backup servers safe?

I use duplicity on a few Ubuntu servers to encrypt backups and send them to a backup server, which then sends another copy to rsync.net, and then, once a week, give it or take, I download these backups to a local server. The problem I have with this is that to send these encrypted archives to th...

MechMK1

1:30 PM

That seems a pretty good solution

Conor Mancone

I've always been a fan of the "pull" method of backups. I remember a story about a tech company who's entire product line revolved around "100% reliable backup and disaster recovery" only to have their servers get hacked. The attacker held everything for ransom and then deleted their servers and all backups, completely destroying the entire company in one go

So my rule is: off-site backups are a must, and the production server has no access to them

@MechMK1 Let me know when it gets back up!

MechMK1

@ConorMancone games-workshop.com/en-WW/…

@ConorMancone Sounds like they needed some better backups :D

Conor Mancone

@MechMK1 That thing looks sweet. Does she play with you?

MechMK1

@ConorMancone I'm planning on getting my 850 point list done "Any second now"

Realistically, i still need to wait for christmas probably. I need my painboys and also 10 lootas

And I want to paint them all first and not afterwards

I mean, the guy I showed you is, according to the lore, strong enough to slice a tank in two

Conor Mancone

Only two tanks? /yawn

:)

Oh yeah, I forgot you're still in the army building process

MechMK1

1:39 PM

I prefer to paint the "More important" guys before assembling them

Conor Mancone

Is she going to paint that one or are you?

MechMK1

games-workshop.com/en-WW/Ork-Lootas-2018

@ConorMancone She's painting Mortarion

That link is to the "lootas", which are like a heavy weapon squad

Conor Mancone

Sweet, I figured but you never know. It's more fun that way

So I always have to find this story (although it hides) when I think of it because there are so many unfortunate lessons to learn. This is the company that had all their data destroyed by a hacker and closed overnight

dailydot.com/layer8/code-spaces-hacked

MechMK1

I mean, I could paint it, but then I'd just end up with Mortarion like I'd want him

Conor Mancone

@MechMK1 yeah, totally.

From the article, about the company: "Backing up data is one thing, but it is meaningless without a recovery plan, not only that a recovery plan – and one that is well-practiced and proven to work time and time again,” a cached version of their website reads. “Code Spaces has a full recovery plan that has been proven to work and is, in fact, practiced."

They did not live up to their hype, unfortunately....

MechMK1

1:43 PM

That's a

B I G
O O F

Also since we spoke about the "Lootas" before. Their weapons are literally referred to by other Orks as "Deffgunz"

Conor Mancone

deffgunz? as in "so loud they make you deff?"

MechMK1

No, they're called that way "becauz they kill e'rrythin' to deff!"

Conor Mancone

:)

Man, Mortarion is ginormous

I can't even imagine how long that would take to paint

Looks sweet

MechMK1

It really depends on how detailled you want to go

According to Warhammer TV, you can do it in 50 minutes ;)

How to paint Mortarion.

►

Conor Mancone

lol, 50 minutes if you're an expert

MechMK1

1:49 PM

Nah, it's not possible. Shade alone needs like 30 minutes to dry

Let me show you the coolest Mortation ever

> When you want to spread the gifts of Nurgle, but you also just dropped a tab of Acid

Conor Mancone

That is awesome

You gotta love the eyes

MechMK1

It's absolutely surreal

Source from here: golden-demon.com/2019/06/21/…

This won the Golden Demon 2019 in the Category "Large Model"

One of my favourite models is actually from Warhammer: Age of Sigmar:

2018 was another good year for mortarion :D

Conor Mancone

For a second that first one reminded me of Cthulu (because the long robes looked like tentacles). Need a race in Warhammer 40K called "Lovecraftians"

MechMK1

@ConorMancone Well, age of sigmar is split into 4 faction groups: Order, Chaos, Death & Destruction

And most of "Death" is quite lovecraftian

Conor Mancone

Wouldn't surprise me - you gotta pay some homage to the classics

MechMK1

2:01 PM

Let me see who was that guy

Conor Mancone

@MechMK1 Although I'm a terrible person because reading your comment, all I can think about is the Walken Comma

Will forever be a classic

imgur.com/gallery/ljjibpM

MechMK1

@ConorMancone Is that that weird comma that doesn't really belong but somehow it does?

Conor Mancone

Although I don't know if Walken is as well known on the other side of the Atlantic. I assume that Shatner is

Journeyman Geek

age of sigmar is the WH fantasy reboot?

MechMK1

@JourneymanGeek Basically

Except your square bases are not compatible anymore, so please buy new models

MechMK1

2:26 PM

I just noticed that schroeder edited my answer to fix a typo, leaving a comment "I couldn't leave that typo alone" :D

But is "An offline password manager allows you to store your passwords in encrypted form" incorrect? Specifically "in encrypted form"?

I didn't know an article was required there

Anyways, I'm on my way home right now. I'll be available on my phone for the next 30 minutes

See y'all!

Arminius

3:07 PM

@TomK. Oh crap, I thought I had replied. Thanks, that's nice! I'm just not a big conference goer, especially if it entails travelling, heh. And as I see it, conferences are mostly about connecting with peers, and I'm not great at that either.

OakSecurity

3:48 PM

XML question

I have a workflow manager with an export feature.

I create 1 export module per line of XML export. It adds to the same document.

I can also create a header (<?xml version="1.0"?>)

But I get an issue when I send more than one document in the flow.

Since I can only put a static field (no values, unless separator, which breaks formatting) AND because there needs to be a "container" for the tags

I'm really wondering how I can do something (workaround) to make it work.

In other words, my exporter setup is line by line, with one line that does (e.g.)
<main>

and one line after all the tag lines that does
</main>

Works fine for 1 file

but if I send multiple files, it does like:
<?xml version="1.0"?>

<main>
<tag1>tag1</tag1>
<tag2>tag2</tag2>
</main>

<main>
<tag1>tag1</tag1>
<tag2>tag2</tag2>
</main>

So I was wondering if it was possible put a value, with separator, inside the XML brackets.

So I could invoke, say, the ID value of the document

TL;DR:

Is there ANY workarounds for XML brackets to have any other characters other than the root element's name?

< root >

instead of

<root>

Since I can't use values (like ID) except if I use a separator to "declare" it

For example

<tag1> ID12345 <tag1>

Will print out <tag1> whatevertheIDis </tag1>

but I need to use the value inside the brackets

Conor Mancone

4:51 PM

I think you'll have to explain why you need to do something weird. Your example doesn't work because you have multiple root tags (aka more than one main in the same document). The solution to that is simple: but a wrapper around that. AKA

<root>
    <main></main>
    <main></main>
</root>

But I presume there is some reason why that doesn't work?

Regarding your other question, whitespace is ignored in XML, so < root > won't do anything

but of course you can add attributes <root someattribute="yes"></root>

From what I can gather though I think your issue is that you are trying to use XML for something other than its intended purpose, which obviously isn't going to go well

OakSecurity

6:54 PM

I'm trying to use a software's CSV exporter to output an xml instead and tweak settings.

The only issue is, I don't think there's a logical way, based on the features, to make wrapper.

I have feature for "column header" which could stick the
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?> on top at all times

but the way it works is, I need to create 1 export task per line

and if I send 5 documents, it loops, so, it's not an issue with CSV because there's only header that's important

all new documents processed into the flow will just add the selected fields and format into a line

until flow's finished, than it will redo for the next document

so I need to find a way, probably via a sheduler (e.g. each 15m, timed with the other system that would fetch the xml) to add 1 line with the </root> but more importantly, I need to find a way to create a secondary header for the <root> line

Because those are the trouble makers

Also, say this wasnt a problem anymore:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>

Also, say this wasnt a problem anymore:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<root>
## SPACE IS A REQUIRED SEPARATOR TO INVOKE FIELD ID
<ID attrib=" FIELDID1990 ">
<tag1>tag1</tag2>
<tag3>tag3</tag3>
</ID attrib=" FIELDID1990 ">

Is that doable?

>> </ID attrib=" FIELDID1990 ">

Conor Mancone

7:22 PM

No offense, but this sounds like the sort of solution that causes far more problems in the long run than it solves. So why not just read it as a CSV file?

Or do some other pre-processing?

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