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07:29
Morning!
Hey
I suggested two tag synonyms a while ago ([infection] -> [virus] and [dbms] -> [database]), but they have so far attracted no votes in either direction. So if anyone wants to vote, please do: security.stackexchange.com/tags/synonyms
Not sure I can vote on them
I just realised that you need to have a score when I tried to vote for your [prng] -> [random]. Hopefully someone with the points comes along and vote.
07:55
he
08:18
I have approved the prng-random one as it already had 3 votes
I'll wait on your ones @Anders - until some other folks vote
@RoryAlsop Thanks!
there you go - starred it so it'll get attention
@RoryAlsop heya - I'm gonna go approve the dbms one, its a clear subset, and a majority at that
btw @RoryAlsop - after approving synonym from the list, you need to perform a merge
08:25
@AviD darnit - I knew that
:-)
I am leaving the infection / virus one though, more votes are in order.
@Simon might want to reserve the tag for his personal questions.
ewww - lol
btw - going offline for a couple of days, taking the family down to the Dead Sea for vacay :-)
Thanks @AviD!
gg gl hf @AviD
08:30
@AviD nice - enjoy
@BarryCarlyon wut?
@AviD cool (well probably hot)
@RoryAlsop weren't you planning to do that once? ;-)
good game, good luck, have fun?
@RoryAlsop ahhhh
08:30
@AviD you said you were going offline for a few days so gg gl hf (Good Game Good Luck Have Fun)
@RоryMcCune yeah, unbearably so
@AviD can't be doing with that heat stuff
@AviD still am at some point - probably once kids are grown up so just the two of us. This year the closest we are getting is Cyprus
we'll only be going outside to go in the sea, and in a river
oh and pre-dawn hike up Massada :-)
wow - definitely take some pics
08:31
@RoryAlsop nice! but I would think your kids would love it too
@RoryAlsop will do :-)
@AviD I'll wait until the risk warnings from our travel folks reduce... :-(
pshaw. I get worse risk warnings from the US embassy about flying to Boston.
well, soon the fascists will be taking the white house, and it wont be safe for anyone, anywhere.
@AviD our work has an explicit "do not go to Turkey" currently, and the warnings for Egypt are almost as serious
LOL I DO NOT LIVE IN EGYPT
heh
/simon
08:35
that's @Simon's propaganda
same thing really though
hehehe
hot place, lots of sand
lol true
pyramids
08:35
havent seen much sand in a long time tho
The NSA has now misinterpreted Avid and put him on a watchlist…
the great pyramid of Jerusalem
@BarryCarlyon s/a/another
@BarryCarlyon pls, I'm on a watchlist because they DIDN'T misinterpret me.
@RoryAlsop swatchlist - shopping list in switzerland
08:36
absolutely
or Claire's watch drawer...
she has more watches than I have guitars
08:51
lol
while for normal people that is a sensible statement, I know you collect guitars like I collect computer components
or like @Simon collects insults
or his mom collects young boys
hmm, I kinda feel like that last one might have been too much. Was it too much?
well this is a serious room for serious infosec discussions
heh
I feel suggestions relating to the matrimonial proclivities of certain members may not be totally topical
room topic changed to The DMZ: A serious place where infosec is discussed PS we don't do hardware/software support (srs face -.-) [crypto] [donuts] [euphemisms] [nono-support] [security] [webappsec]
say that twelve times fast
before or after whisky?
09:05
whichever you prefer
well after whisky I won't care if I get it wrong :P
picked up a conemara in Ireland
kind of interesting, quite peaty
arent those extinct?
well this one will be if I drink it all
lol
but I'll probably keep some for my collection, as I don't have a lot of irish Whiskey
09:08
I think I was talking about chupacabras
even though it is a NAS <shudder>
@RоryMcCune thats pretty cool
@RоryMcCune I keep thinking of that as some type of storage, confusing
then I recall the name
yeah acronym overload
but yknow, I've had some very nice NAS
sure I don't mind the concept of a NAS whisky what I object to is them trying to pass it off as high-end
when most of the spirit is 5 years old
it's a straight up con from the distilleries..
09:12
reminds me of the AMD/Intel fight a few years ago, about CPU "speed"
good analogy
and tbf, they were not wrong.
in that case no
I had a Highland Park NAS, I think it was 10 years. ofc no way to be sure...
but if the whisky companies break the link between age and price they risk ruining their whole market
09:13
@RоryMcCune well still, quality of whisky is not just the age.
sure but that's been a link they've held for a long time
and even for a specific distillery, older != better.
@RоryMcCune not ruining, reforming.
well if you go down that line why bother paying top dollar for older whisky
yknow the more we talk about it, the more I am becoming convinced :-)
@RоryMcCune ah see, older IS older
yeah but then it's just a branding excercise
09:15
I think there should be 3 ranges: very young (crap), very old (almost definitely very good, to some extent), and everything in between - where age doesnt really matter.
@RоryMcCune oh of course it is
they make a cheaper product and use the branding to keep you paying more
like designer clothes
I hate designer clothes, they're not a better product, just a more expensive one
like gucci
and apple
:P apple has functional differences
a Gucci t-shirt is just a t-shirt
@AviD heh, there was a point when apple differenciated a fair bit
with a label
09:16
@JourneymanGeek sure, but not with quality
@RоryMcCune apple is a laptop.... with a label :P
@AviD significantly better displays
@AviD well different OS
@AviD but I was more thinking of iOS
rather than OSX
course, everyone's else finally wised up
@JourneymanGeek thats relatively recent
@RоryMcCune heh, "different"
@RоryMcCune sure thats fair
my point is if they turn whisky pricing into a labelling marketing game purely, they'll lose out (in my opinion) as a lot of people won't pay the money they were willing to when there was a connection to years of effort to create the product
compare to gin, very few people I know pay £50+ for a gin
but many would for a whisky
09:20
sure. but years of effort != better.
for that matter, a lot of "better" is subjective anyway.
but years of effort kind of makes a correlation to price
if you need warehouse space and care and tending for 18 years
e.g. I prefer most peat, my father wouldnt touch it for a buck.
it makes sense that the product is more expensive
doesn't remove the distillery preference element
for example if you like Laphroig and previously you paid top dollar for an 18 year old laphroig, would you be happy to pay the same for a 5 year old NAS Laphroig?
well... as a consultant who is moving away from charging for time, and prefering value-based pricing - I tend to want to say "it doesnt matter" :-)
@RоryMcCune on the one hand - no. but on the other hand, if you "trust" Laphroaig, it shouldnt matter. If you like their 5 year more than the 18 year...
e.g. they have a few different bottles at the same age, quality not the same.
most people like products where there's a clear tie between cost to make and cost to sell
09:23
like their 10 year QA cask is better than their regular 10 year.
vendors of course don't like that
I would take an 8year QA over a regular 12 year...
and you'd pay more for it
even if it cost them less to make?
exactly
sure. What do I care about their cost to manufacture?
you don't like being ripped off?
09:24
I would pay more for a 5 year laphroaig over a 18 year Johnny walker.
I dont like Johnny Walker.
sure but I was comparing laphroigs to laphroigs
still.
if you're happy to pay more for a cheaper product that's fine, I'm suggesting that may be a tricky sell in general
I might take the cheaper one, but thats a cost/benefit analysis.
@RоryMcCune software field proves otherwise ;-)
enterprise sales != consumer sales
09:27
@RоryMcCune people are willing en masse to pay more for a crappy Samsung android, than for a high-quality Lumia.
but that's the Laphroig/johnny walker comparison
materials are higher-quality, more development effort end-to-end (as opposed to relying on pre-made Android OS), overall better... and yet Lumia has no foothold.
a better comparison would be selling a lumia with a slower processor but saying "its faster anyway" and getting people to pay more
well lumia has its flaws atm
@RоryMcCune yeah, back to AMD/Intel...
09:31
@AviD tbh, MS didn't really have a clue what they were planning
and nokia's probably having the last laugh, since they essentially got the naming rights back early and are making nokia android phones...
09:57
loads of transcript...what I took from it: mmm Whisky. Best without stupid pricing :-)
10:07
@JourneymanGeek actually I think the opposite - they had too many conflicting ideas.
@AviD too many ideas, no actual clue?
possible
or everybody had a different clue
they tried throwing it at the wall to see what sticks, unfortunately it turned out to be a screen door and flew right through.
Or a rock hammer and knocked the wall down.
 
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@StackExchange I always know there was something good about SO.
 
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19:18
@O'Niel If you're still here, and trying to deal with TeslaCrypt, you might want to check this out: grahamcluley.com/2016/05/teslacrypt-ransomware-fix

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