The DMZ

Mark Buffalo

22:00

@l1thal It can be, and it's not allowed here

Rory Alsop

@l1thal generally, yes doxxing is considered illegal

l1thal

Just with U.S. federal law.

David Freitag

@l1thal IANAL, but depends on your/their location and local laws. I would say not only is it illegal but it's also a dick move.

Mark Buffalo

You could get cyber harassment/stalking charges against you

l1thal

Haha true. My friend was asking me.

David Freitag

22:00

@l1thal Yeah well tell "your friend" that it's apocalyptically dumb.

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l1thal

@DavidFreitag I will xD I figured it would be because of some invasion of privacy stuff, but I wanted to know if you guys had any specifics

Mark Buffalo

Well, if the doxxing causes them physical or emotional harm, you will be liable for the damages

David Freitag

@DavidFreitag OH GOD IT'S GOOD

l1thal

@MarkBuffalo What if you're not like.. making a document, but you're trying to find out if someone is lying about who they say they are before you meet them online. Or you're concerned about a friend who's meeting someone and you want to make sure the person they're meeting is who they say they are?

Mark Buffalo

@l1thal That's perfectly reasonable

I've done such

But I don't "dox" them, as in post their details in public for all to see... unless they are a pedophile. And I'd do that anonymously.

Generally.

l1thal

22:04

That's what my friend was doing. He said his cousin met someone online and has been dating "her", But he wanted to confirm the name and age stuff. So he used Whitepage, an IP logger and IP lookup site to check it

Mark Buffalo

Yeah, there's nothing wrong with that.

l1thal

Thanks.

Mark Buffalo

Also, wtf @ "IP lookup site"?

AviD

@Simon pfft. They interviewed me once, a while back, before I knew anything about them. Their, umm, business model, came up in conversation, and I realized that we were, well, not a great fit, philosophically speaking.

since then they've been in the tech news a lot, and not charitabally.

@diagprov what do you mean? the name? It's Cellebrite.

also, jeez louise you guys be chatty lately.

Mark Buffalo

@AviD was about to accuse you of being mossad, but it wasn't funny

@AviD TELL US MORE

AviD

22:08

@MarkBuffalo you're thinking shin bet.

@MarkBuffalo LIKE DOES HE HAVE A CAR

Mark Buffalo

The ISA?

AviD

@MarkBuffalo Microsoft?

Mark Buffalo

@AviD Shin Bet. Israeli Security Agency

Ah, glad you confirmed you're a shinbetter

AviD

@MarkBuffalo oh never heard of it as ISA.

Mark Buffalo

updates blackmail profile

AviD

22:09

I did work on MS' ISA back when, though.

@MarkBuffalo no no, not currently.

Mark Buffalo

:-O

MS = ?

AviD

@MarkBuffalo microsoft

Mark Buffalo

ah, ok

AviD

Microsoft Forefront Threat Management Gateway

Microsoft Forefront Threat Management Gateway (Forefront TMG), formerly known as Microsoft Internet Security and Acceleration Server (ISA Server), is a network router, firewall, antivirus program, VPN server and web cache from Microsoft Corporation. It runs on Windows Server and works by inspecting all network traffic that passes through it. == Features == Microsoft Forefront TMG offers a set of features which include: Routing and remote access features: Microsoft Forefront TMG can act as a router, an Internet gateway, a virtual private network (VPN) server, a network address translation (NAT)...

> formerly known as Microsoft Internet Security and Acceleration Server (ISA Server)

@MarkBuffalo to be clear, I never actually did work for the shinbet, though I have talked with them at various points over the years.

Mark Buffalo

@AviD I have respect for them

they are good at torture

AviD

22:13

@MarkBuffalo you should see their interview process. badda bing!

Mark Buffalo

@AviD You got tortured?

AviD

no...

I was saying that their interview process is torture.

kalina

@RoryAlsop erm

AviD

nevermind....

Rory Alsop

@kalina I get to say it - I married one :-)

Mark Buffalo

22:16

@RoryAlsop :-O

kalina

uhuh

I see

Mark Buffalo

@AviD and HOW DO YOU KNOW THIS?

kalina

is that the only reason?

AviD

43 secs ago, by AviD

nevermind....

Rory Alsop

@kalina :-P

Mark Buffalo

22:16

@AviD updates profile

AviD

lol

David Freitag

Man, I like apples but apples definitely don't like me

Mark Buffalo

@AviD It's funny how everyone suspects you're just a normal guy, but I, of all people, am considered a deviant NSA heathen

kalina

well Apples are inferior technology anyway

AviD

@MarkBuffalo this is true

TildalWave

22:18

@MarkBuffalo who suspects that @AviD is a normal guy?

AviD

see I would never actually agree to work for them though

Mark Buffalo

@TildalWave ...as far as normal DMZers go

David Freitag

@kalina I meant the fruit, not the so-called "technology"

SmokeDispenser

@kalina hu?

AviD

@TildalWave relatively speaking

David Freitag

22:19

@TildalWave @AviD? No way he's normal.

kalina

@DavidFreitag well you don't seem like the kind of person that would eat fruit

TildalWave

@MarkBuffalo there ain't such a thing

kalina

@SmokeDispenser nice contribution, 10 out of 10

David Freitag

@kalina I eat plenty of fruit. However, the apples that I consumed last night were in the form of home made apple juice. About a half a gallon.

Rory Alsop

@DavidFreitag apple juice? Or cider?

David Freitag

22:20

Two 8oz glasses full

@RoryAlsop Apple juice

SmokeDispenser

@kalina Yay! I scored 10 Kali points.

silverpenguin

@kalina my milkshake brings all the boys to the yard and there like its better than yours damn right its better than yours

kalina

@SmokeDispenser that was sarcasm

David Freitag

rekt

Mark Buffalo

@silverpenguin in English?

AviD

22:21

so I m pleased - I have an alcohol delivery service now.

Straight to the house, very good prices (considering)

silverpenguin

@AviD my joke wasnt that bad, wait i didnt say a joke

AviD

packed very well.

SmokeDispenser

@kalina you don't say.

kalina

@silverpenguin your milkshake scares all the people from this steeple because it's like, all lumpy and hard, damn right, it's lumpy and hard, I would mock you, but I have to barf

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@SmokeDispenser no I did say, look:

2 mins ago, by kalina

@SmokeDispenser that was sarcasm

Mark Buffalo

@AviD I subscribe to part of the Rechabite philosophy

SmokeDispenser

22:23

@kalina right, now I see.

silverpenguin

@kalina well ... i have pizza so ner

SmokeDispenser

thanks for that useful clarification, as always.

TildalWave

@AviD you're running a molotov cocktail delivery service?

AviD

@MarkBuffalo I had to look that up. amusing.

kalina

@silverpenguin well now while you're eating your pizza you can think about all of the lumpy and hard milkshake you have in front of you aka cheese

and you're putting that in your mouth

shudders

AviD

22:24

@TildalWave no, not mine, I am a customer.

Rory Alsop

@AviD I thought he meant Cenobite

Mark Buffalo

@AviD Jeremiah 35:14?

Rory Alsop

@kalina mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm - cheeeeeeeeese

silverpenguin

@kalina im very hungry right now so what ever is going i guess

TildalWave

@AviD please google "molotov cocktail"

AviD

22:25

@RoryAlsop heh

@TildalWave i am familiar with the concept >.<

Rory Alsop

@AviD I would be awfully disappointed if you weren't

AviD

@MarkBuffalo yeah I didnt connect that...

David Freitag

Why is it that ubuntu doesn't include build-essential I mean c'mon!

Mark Buffalo

@AviD Jewish history is one of my favorite topics :p

kalina

@TildalWave pls he's former mossad he knows all about molotovs

silverpenguin

22:28

@Simon sorry it took so long to reply, I read everything here in order of importance, so Im sure you can see why it took me to get down to your messages. (this kind of talk is like a fist fighting to us british)

TildalWave

@kalina he's former something else where he'd know all about 50 year old rations of spam

AviD

:-(

TildalWave

which is basically what I was too in teh armez

AviD

actually the IDF stopped using spam several years ago.

around the same time they stopped using me...

Journeyman Geek

spam ain't kosher no?

TildalWave

22:30

cans of beans from before I was born ...

AviD

@JourneymanGeek well, its not REALLY spam. It's spam-like...

Journeyman Geek

unless they lob it at the enemy since it ain't halal either.

@AviD ahh. So generic non porcine spamlike substance?

TildalWave

@AviD you ate all the remaining supplies?

AviD

@JourneymanGeek exactly.

@TildalWave heh. yukk.

kalina

@JourneymanGeek where did The Expanse go

Journeyman Geek

22:31

@kalina first season ended?

kalina

but there weren't many episodes

I need more

this isn't an acceptable delay

now by the time season 2 happens I'll have to rewatch season 1

which is fine but like NCIS is on season 13 or whatever and it starts getting really time consuming

silverpenguin

@kalina watch one piece >>

kalina

good job killing chat

David Freitag

rip

kalina

gosh it's still dead

WHAT DID YOU DO

boils the seaworld tank containing @silverpenguin

SmokeDispenser

22:45

Oh gawd, three people dropped at once

kalina

well fire spreads in an uncontrolled pattern

SmokeDispenser

including @RоryMcCune

kalina

well, that's an unfortunate accident

he'll have to wait until we work out how to reanimate ash

dot dot dot

TildalWave

@kalina you liked it?

kalina

you can't judge sci fi by the first season

less than 10 hours is never enough to explain the premise of any good universe

you can assume that it's leaning in that direction by the fact I am willing to watch another season

TildalWave

22:59

dunno, I found it rather boring and lots of it is quite wrong despite that they try to make it look realistic

kalina

you are almost certainly picking it apart on a deeper level than I

you say "boring" but you can say the same about the first season of breaking bad

and most of the second

TildalWave

meh I try hard not to pick things apart and enjoy what they give me, but there's too much talk and it just didn't draw me in

kalina

I will call it "slow"

TildalWave

I enjoyed BSG immensely more than The Expanse and that one wasn't much accurate as far as physics go either

kalina

I hated BSG

because of BSG SG1 got cancelled

TildalWave

23:04

SG1 probably had it coming, they just abused the whole concept in all the spinoffs

kalina

pls Atlantis wasn't abuse

pls Universe wasn't abuse

pls what

WHAT ARE YOU SAYING?!

SG1 only got old because richard dean anderson got old

curse you, time!

TildalWave

dunno, maybe

I personally think the stories just became old eventually and I lost interest

Mark Buffalo

@kalina SG-1 was the best :(((((

atlantis and universe were both HIV positive though

kalina

@TildalWave most of the stories were relatively weak but carried by the quality cast

Mark Buffalo

atlantis was semi-ok... universe was a horrific abomination

kalina

23:09

@MarkBuffalo pls you obviously don't really like sci fi

must be a star wars fan or something

TildalWave

there wasn't that much scifi to it at all, it was more like vampires ... in space

I don't count vampires as scifi

some stories in Atlantis were still good, but much rarer than SG1

kalina

pls they were a highly evolved parasitic creature

you don't count vampires as scifi but you count telepathy and magic as scifi?

TildalWave

no

kalina

the force?

TildalWave

no lol

that's all fantasy

David Freitag

23:15

@MarkBuffalo What the hell was wrong with Universe?!

TildalWave

there's no science in it

Mark Buffalo

@DavidFreitag it just seemed like it was made for pre-teens :/

David Freitag

@MarkBuffalo You were made for pre-teens.

TildalWave

The Expanse is scifi, Atlantis was fantasy with scifi backstory

Mark Buffalo

Atlantis was ok... I did like most of it

but I pretty much quit universe after the first few episodes

TildalWave

23:17

ditto

Mark Buffalo

SG-1 was great until the Ori crap... oh I hated them

David Freitag

There's something wrong with you two.

Mark Buffalo

also, asgard mass-suicide pissed me off

TildalWave

@DavidFreitag I thought we discussed this

David Freitag

@TildalWave I think I blanked it out of my memory on account of how stupid it is

Mark Buffalo

23:22

@DavidFreitag you're stupid

:(

David Freitag

Wow and now it's devolved to childish insults

TildalWave

@DavidFreitag what is?

David Freitag

@TildalWave The topic

TildalWave

it's OK to have an opinion, right?

David Freitag

uh? sure? do what you want?

schroeder

23:25

@MarkBuffalo Ori was a bad move

TildalWave

well, that's mine... no need to like it or agree with it

schroeder

@MarkBuffalo agreed

TildalWave

I liked SG1 OK enough, Atlantis less so, Universe was bad

David Freitag

@TildalWave No I just meant I have a finite memory space and clogging it with conversations about Stargate isn't going to help anything

schroeder

@TildalWave Universe was "Lost" on a spaceship

except they could call home whenever they wanted ....

and weird-ass conjugal visits ...

David Freitag

23:28

@schroeder wam bam thankyou mam

@RоryMcCune Yeah I think xubuntu is my new goto linux distro

Benoit Esnard

23:42

Hi everyone

0

Q: How to exploit a Use-After-Free vulnerability?

I want to learn more about use-after-free vulnerabilities and found this tutorial. Yet I don't understand it very well and hope for an explanation of how it works.

html and js are tagged here, should we remove them?

Journeyman Geek

@kalina yeah, short season, but that seems to be the case with a lot of scifi's new stuff

David Freitag

@BenoitEsnard Probably. I'd ping @schroeder @RoryAlsop @RоryMcCune and... uh... @AviD I s'psoe.

kalina

@JourneymanGeek yes well it sucks

the concept of seasons should be banished

David Freitag

Sci-Fi isn't included in my channel lineup :[

schroeder

@BenoitEsnard done

Benoit Esnard

23:49

Thanks!

David Freitag

See I knew someone would take care of it.

TildalWave

@schroeder bah you ninja!

I like the old mods better, they're slow not like these new FGITW guys

David Freitag

Virtual Desktop 1.0 Trailer

►

So dumb.

I bet we can expect @RоryMcCune to do that ^ :P

kalina

bored

BORED

schroeder

@TildalWave well, I was summoned, and I am still at work

kalina

23:53

#bored

schroeder

#board

David Freitag

@schroeder Hey I'm at work too! :d

TildalWave

@DavidFreitag can't wait for the in-game self-hack attacks :)

"I thought I was pwning someone in the game, turned out I did it on myself for real"

David Freitag

@TildalWave Is that like @silverpenguin punching himself in the goodie bag?

@DavidFreitag Only thing decently cool about that is the movie theater

kalina

@schroeder no

David Freitag

23:58

But I'm not going to drop >$1000 to do that

kalina

well dropping $1000 isn't really that special

it makes a minor thud and bounces a little

David Freitag

For those of us that have contracts with major producers maybe

or s/producers/labels whatever you know what I meant. grumble

kalina

I didn't actually, I was confused for a moment

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