The DMZ

AviD

13:00

@Adi hey cmon!

@Adi oh whew, I assumed you meant me

Ohnana

@Adi yo why do you have an axe to grind

AviD

@Ohnana two handed axe. he got it from a dead goblin.

silverpenguin

@Adi why? do you dislike him ?

AviD

@silverpenguin I think it's because he wants to spend more time with him IRL.

okay whats wrong with me today? Did @Simon hijack my account without telling me?

silverpenguin

@AviD what is love baby dont hurt me

Adi

13:02

@Avi security.stackexchange.com/a/117511

Could you please undelete that one and delete the comment?

It's a good answer that was downvoted for no reason

OP is an idiot who doesn't understand his own problem

The answerer should have probably explained that, but he probably didn't think OP is that stupid

Simon

OP used "xD" at the end of his comment which tells a lot about him.

AviD

@Adi hmm, I agree with you, but the answerer deleted his own post.

I am not often inclined to go against one's wishes.

Adi

@AviD Do you think I should post my shit as answer?

AviD

actually wait, that answer was 90% you?

Simon

@AviD hahaha... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... hahahahaha breathes deeply HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

AviD

13:05

@Adi sure

@Simon "often". you are the exception.

Adi

Poor answerer only deleted it because shitty OP made fun of him

I really feel bad for the dude

I wanna somehow tell him his answer is correct

Simon

Oh!

AviD

meh. Actually the question should be closed as shopping.

Simon

I was wondering why you went all bananas on the guy, I can't see anything deleted.

@AviD NO FUCKING KIDDING.

Adi

@AviD Nope

Simon

13:06

Sigh.

AviD

@Adi no?

Adi

It's not about "gimme tool"

It's about "which technique"

This is a common problem and people (like stupid OP) don't know how to approach it

AviD

@Adi well your answer gives the technique answer, but the question is about "gimme tool".

your answer can legitimately save it from the hammer.

Adi

@billc.cn Your MiTM answer is correct. OP is an idiot. You know your shit.

Ugghh.. I guess that ping can't reach him

AviD

@billc.cn Your MiTM answer is correct. OP is wrong, you know what you're talking about.

@Adi SUUUUUPEEERR PIIIING!!

diagprov

13:08

@AviD Is that a @@?

Adi

:O :O :O :O ÖÖÖÖÖ

AviD

@diagprov yep

diagprov

Sometimes I miss blue powers.

Adi

THAT SUPER PINGGG!

Simon

@diagprov Are you a @@?

Adi

13:09

@AviD I like how you niceified my message :D

Rory Alsop

@Adi lol

AviD

anyway @Adi i think yes, you should go ahead and put your answer in (unless you wanna wait for bill), and fix up the question accordingly if you feel like it

@Adi :-)

Adi

@AviD I'm conflicted it about it

On one hand, I think it's a good thing for people to learn

on the other hand, F the OP

AviD

@Adi hehehe

Matthew

@Adi Yeah, that user is annoying...

Simon

13:11

I really wonder what has been deleted now!

AviD

you're right though - the question he didnt ask is a good one.

Adi

@Simon Check my comment under his question

AviD

if you dont answer it - I will hammer it.

Matthew

I was just writing a comment on one of his other answers...

3

Basically Yuriko already told you the answer to this question. Complex passwords are dead for some time already. In fact, I get really mad when some service forces me to use some complexity because it's just useless. You always end up either forgetting the password or with very similar passwords...

Simon

Oh wow, what an asshole.

Matthew

13:11

Specifically "No one would be able to guess any of those passwords with any cracking tool."

Adi

Anybody plays FPS games?

Simon

ohnuhnuh plays TF2 I think.

I used to play a ton of FPS back in the days.

Both console and PC.

Adi

I have a free copy of the game Insurgency

If anybody wants it, let me know

Ohnana

@Simon i do

diagprov

@Matthew the other answer defines entropy incorrectly too

Lighty

13:17

@Adi wanna trade it for a copy of Killing Floor 1?

Matthew

@diagprov Yeah, I didn't upvote any of the answers, but already capped for today, so thought I should let someone else write a proper answer (also, day off, so lazy)

Adi

@Lighty I'm giving it for free

Simon

Why do you get a day off in the middle of the week you donut?

Lighty

@Adi I'd feel bad if I took something for free from someone I know xd

Simon

@Lighty But if it's someone you don't know, it's all fine?

2

Burglar alert.

Lighty

13:19

@Simon Depends on the situation

Simon

No wonders why bikes get stolen in NL.

Lighty

@Simon then get a bike chain you derp

TildalWave

@Lighty oww man it doesn't look like today is your day :)

Adi

@Lighty Got an email/contact form/whatsapp/facebook/twitter?

Lighty

@Adi I haz a public whatsapp that I could email to yah xd

Simon

13:21

@Lighty Is your last name van Dief?

Adi

@Lighty My email is in my Security.SE profile

Lighty

@Simon just as much as your last name would be VON KRANKENWAGEN

Simon

goes to Google translate

Ambulance?

TildalWave

ambulance vehicle

Simon

wat

Lighty

13:22

"im from finland!"

spells "at" with "ät"

claps

diagprov

@Matthew I'm not getting involved in that question at all.

TildalWave

@Lighty that's actually reasonable because most email scrappers wouldn't anticipate that but they would "at"

Lighty

@Adi sent.

Adi

@Lighty Anti-harvesting

Oh, I see @Tildal already commented on that

Matthew

@diagprov Probably sensible. There is a 101 point user arguing with a 23000 point user. And they're wrong...

Adi

13:26

@Lighty You pooped up something.

I didn't get the email

TildalWave

told you it's not his day LOL

Simon

fkin lol

Classic Lighty.

Adi

My obfuscation techniques are too advanced

Lighty

@Adi did it again o.o

2 mails from my address

Adi

Got them

The WA number wasn't really needed

I can send you the code over email

Simon

13:34

lulz

diagprov

@Matthew the problem for me at least is the entropy one.

TildalWave

@diagprov second law of thermodynamics one? :P

getting old is nothing to be ashamed of :)

Simon

Yes it is.

Rоry McCune

@Simon well, you'd know

TildalWave

exactly

diagprov

13:42

@TildalWave exactly. I object to the constant increase in entropy. Well above pay rises in real terms! I shall be writing to my MP right now.

TildalWave

young people are in relative terms getting older a lot faster than old ones

Simon

My back hurts so does my stomach. Hell, what's next, the ween will start sucking?!?

AviD

yes, you are getting old

Ohnana

lmao

TildalWave

@Simon there's pills for that

silverpenguin

13:43

clearly we are all a bad influence onf @AviD

Ohnana

other way around

Simon

Oh yeah, I forgot that old people take 37267462342 different pills every day.

l1thal

Good morning, boyz

TildalWave

and nappies once your undies start getting unexpectedly soggy :P

Simon

Better start getting good at swallowing soon.

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l1thal

13:44

For those of you who reside in the U.S.,..

Arperum

@Simon You take 37267462342 identical pills every day?

Simon

STARBAIT'D

TildalWave

@l1thal and the rest are way ahead of you :P

diagprov

@Arperum no he eats a single, massive donut.

Simon

UNSTARBAIT'D

TildalWave

13:45

hehehe

Simon

RESTARBAIT'D

DESTARBAIT'D

WHAT THE FUCK'D

Arperum

@Simon FAIL'D

GODDAMMIT PEOPLE

Ohnana

@l1thal yes

l1thal

I'm the only 'murican, hm?

Xander

Oh good, I'm arguing for weak passwords now. And I'm actually right.

TildalWave

13:46

why do we have to wait till November for the 2016 presidential elections

silverpenguin

Ohnana montana is murica

Xander

@WorseDoughnut Nonsense. In a perfect world, all risk mitigations (including strength of authentication controls and credentials) would be commensurate with the risks themselves. A control should be no more complex or expensive that the information being protected dictates. — Xander 57 secs ago

Simon

Yesterday I ordered tires, they said it'd take about 7-10 days until they get them. This morning: "We received your tires".

Those were the fastest days of my life.

Matthew

@Xander That question is becoming a bit of a train wreck...

Adi

@Lighty Sent. You should find it in your junk mail

Xander

13:49

@Matthew Yeah, well, it's not a great question. Its effectively "How do I choose a strong password."

l1thal

@Simon ayy, I ordered tires yesterday too. They should be in today as well. xD

Simon

@l1thal I bet you got shitty tires.

Matthew

@Xander It probably ought to be reworded as something like "Are there any differences in choosing a password for a password manager compared to a website?"

l1thal

@Simon tirerack.com/tires/…

these are similar to the ones I got. Goodyear Wrangler tires

Arperum

@Simon I got my phone which had a delivery date of 3-6 weeks in about a week. That was pretty fast too.

Xander

13:51

@Matthew I'm thinking of just finding one of our existing password questions that's similar and closing as a dupe.

Ohnana

@TildalWave because that's how that shit works son

Xander

@l1thal To go on a Jeep Wrangler, I hope.

l1thal

@Xander Mustang

Rоry McCune

@Ohnana pls they should just skip the boring stuff and get on and coronate President Trump now

TildalWave

@Ohnana very anticlimax ... just like @Simon's ween

Rоry McCune

13:53

I mean its obvious he's going to win

diagprov

@Matthew 2 upvotes for the entropy = combinations answer :(

l1thal

@Xander but I don't think the tires in the link I sent are quite what I bought. They're much too big in that picture.

Ohnana

@RоryMcCune do ya think canada will let me apply for asylum

Arperum

@TildalWave You went looking for it?

Rоry McCune

@Ohnana you should ask @Simon if he'll sponsor you

Ohnana

13:54

or maybe europe, i'm a white person, they like white people

TildalWave

@Arperum please, like I don't have better use for my scanning electron microscope

Matthew

@diagprov Yeah... It's not going well for this "community produces good answers" theory

Arperum

@TildalWave How do you know how much of an anticlimactic experience it is?

TildalWave

@Arperum it hasn't given me any pleasure?

Arperum

@Ohnana Don't underestimate our right-wing idiots.

Ohnana

13:57

@Arperum oh man.

diagprov

@Matthew I feel a blog post coming on :)

Ohnana

@diagprov i think i have some aspirin for that

Arperum

@Ohnana Yea. It's pretty bad over here too.

Matthew

@Xander I say, OP should just make a few different accounts on services like that, and make their initial Keepass password the bottom-most layer; passception. — WorseDoughnut 6 mins ago

l1thal

Anyone here want to work on a Python 'computer research' project with me?

silverpenguin

14:03

@l1thal im listening

l1thal

@silverpenguin Is there any way we can communicate more privately? This project is kinda something I want to keep out of the eyes of the general public.

silverpenguin

@l1thal hmm trying to think, I think all chat rooms on se are google listed :<

l1thal

@silverpenguin I mean.. I've got Skype, TeamSpeak, etc..

kalina

@Adi I must be more tolerant than you at spinning

silverpenguin

@l1thal sorry man I dont know you well enough yet to reveil my secret identity

l1thal

14:07

@silverpenguin That's cool. Maybe some other time then. xP

silverpenguin

straightens tin foil hat

l1thal

lol

I prefer to work with people who I can speak with

Helps to keep everything lined out on projects

Xander

@Matthew Yeah. I can't even...Not going to bother.

Simon

@l1thal da fuk do you drive? A Jeep?

Xander

19 mins ago, by l1thal

@Xander Mustang

Simon

14:12

wat

l1thal

xD

Simon

This can't be the OEM size.

l1thal

Well yeah. That's why I was thinking that the ones I bough were smaller

because in that picture they look pretty big

Xander

@l1thal The problem here, is that @Simon hasn't read anything you've said, except for the one post.

Simon

HEY I WAS GONE

Xander

14:14

@Simon AND NOW YOU'RE BACK, AND TALKING NONSENSE.

l1thal

STOP YELLING

Ohnana

WHY ARE WE YELLING?!

Simon

ROOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRR

I'M PRETTY SURE WRANGLER ARE TRUCK TIRES

ARE YOU SURE THAT'S THE MODEL YOU GOT YOU DONUT?

l1thal

I'M NOT SURE

Xander

MY CAPSLOCK KEY IS STUCK. i SHALL YELL FROM HERE FORWARD.

Simon

14:14

YOU SUCK

YOU BUY TIRES AND DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THEY ARE?

l1thal

I JUST KNOW THAT THE GOODYEAR GUY TOLD ME THAT WRANGLER TIRES WOULD BE GOOD

Simon

COME ON YOU PEASANT

l1thal

I'M NOT A CAR GUY, DAMMIT

Ohnana

@Xander that's a lowercase i dude

Matthew

stop shouting!

Simon

14:15

YET YOU DRIVE A MUSTANG

Rоry McCune

@Simon pls you don't even know about Pirellis

Simon

WOW.JPG

Xander

@l1thal OF COURSE HE DID THEY'RE GOODYEAR TIRES AND HE WORKS FOR GOODYEAR.

Simon

@RоryMcCune I didn't know about the specific model you gave me you donut.

Xander

@Ohnana whoops.

l1thal

14:15

@Xander RIP ME THEN

Ohnana

@Xander get REKT

are you using a phone keyboard?

Simon

NO HE'S JUST USED TO CAPITALIZING THE "I" SO HE PRESSED THE SHIFT KEY WITH CAPS LOCK ENABLED

l1thal

Nah, I'll send you guys a pic of them whenever I get them put on today

Rоry McCune

Mar 9 at 13:54, by Simon

@RоryMcCune I don't know shit about Pirelli.

Xander

@Simon This.

@RоryMcCune I have Pirellis.

Simon

14:17

MY TEA INFUSED FOR TOO LONG

THIS IS ALL YOUR FAULT

l1thal

Just got the call

My tires are in!

Simon

@RоryMcCune WHATEVS

Ohnana

@Simon nnooooooo

Rоry McCune

@Xander well exactly, it's just tyre newbs like @Simon who know nothing about them :D

l1thal

@Simon #FirstWorldProblems

Rоry McCune

14:18

@Simon #Tyre-Rekt

Xander

I also got to hear a Pirelli explode once. I was in their testing center, and they were testing to failing that day. It was...Energetic.

Simon

@RоryMcCune Oh please. There are plenty of other good tire brands to know about.

l1thal

Okey, well I'ma go put these tires on. Have a nice day!

Simon

You too you donut.

l1thal

thx.

Ohnana

14:19

@Xander re: your answer about beer + ice cream

Rоry McCune

@Simon yeah but pirelli are the tyres F1 use...

Ohnana

ice cream will foam in the presence of CO2 no matter what you put it in

Simon

@RоryMcCune Because Pirelli is paying a shit ton, probably.

Hang on, let me ask a m8.

Xander

@Ohnana Ah, makes sense.

Rоry McCune

@Simon 'cause they're a major tyre brand... it'd like knowing about supercars but not knowing what a Ferrari was

Ohnana

14:20

things like coffee and such, melting the ice cream will cause air trapped in the ice cream to foam in the melted portion, and a fizzy drink like beer exacerbates it

with coffee it's less pronounced, and it creates a thick, hot foam

Simon

@RоryMcCune See that's where you got it all wrong. I said I know the brand, just not any specific model.

Name me 5 Pirelli models, roro.

Xander

@Ohnana Interesting. That, I need to try.

Rоry McCune

5 mins ago, by Rоry McCune

Mar 9 at 13:54, by Simon

@RоryMcCune I don't know shit about Pirelli.

Simon

Not knowing shit does not mean I don't know the brand ffs.

Ohnana

if you use ice cold (literally) beer, you won't get quite the same effect until it warms a bit

Affogato

An affogato (Italian, "drowned") is a coffee-based dessert. It usually takes the form of a scoop of vanilla gelato or ice cream topped with a shot of hot espresso. Some variations also include a shot of amaretto or other liqueur. It is considered one drink, not a combination of coffee and ice cream. According to the Oxford English Dictionary, "affogato" entered the English language by 1992. == See also == Macchiato (disambiguation) Coffee portal == References... ==

10/10 would reccomend

Xander

14:22

@Simon Not sure how you have managed to get this far in life without hearing about Pirelli, but wonders will never cease, I guess.

Simon

OK MY TEA IS FINE AFTER ALL

Rоry McCune

@Simon ya didn't say "I don't know shit about <tyrenamex>" you said "I don't know shit about <tyrebrandx>"

Simon

@Xander I HEARD ABOUT PIRELLI I JUST DON'T KNOW SPECIFIC MODELS FFS

Xander

1 min ago, by Rоry McCune

5 mins ago, by Rоry McCune

Mar 9 at 13:54, by Simon

@RоryMcCune I don't know shit about Pirelli.

Simon

@RоryMcCune BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW THEIR MODELS IN GENERAL

Oh for fucks sakes, hang on, I'm buying multiple plane tickets to kick everybody's ass.

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Rоry McCune

14:23

inb4 @Simon rage-quits the DMZ

Ohnana

@Simon does this mean we get to have cheesesteaks and poutine?!

Simon

Just poutine.

I'm willing to share the secret recipe.

Ohnana

bullshit

i need all the heart disease.

Xander

@Ohnana Go add an answer.

Ohnana

@Xander yeah let me just casually start answering questions about beer when i'm not legal to drink

good shit

Simon

14:28

lulz

Xander

@Ohnana You're legal in most of the world. Perhaps you've had a vacation to The Great White North?

Ohnana

@Xander haha, i went to europe

Xander

@Ohnana There ya go.

Ohnana

damn europeans and your fancy mineral water. tap water is perfectly fine

Simon

It tastes like anus.

Xander

14:29

Do they have ice cream in Europe? I'm not sure they've invented refrigeration or electricity over there yet.

Simon

o lawd look at this Trump cultist laughing at Europe.

Arperum

@Ohnana In some cases tap water tastes terrible though. Same goes for certain mineral water brands though.

Or in the case of certain old buildings using tap water is not advised because part of the piping systems are still made from lead...

SmokeDispenser

@Xander, nah, you're right. We drink our (real) beer warm;)

Lighty

@Adi it worked, thank you ^^

Xander

@SmokeDispenser Which, I must admit, is in fact the proper way. I still haven't figured out America's obsession with making beer as cold as possible.

Simon

14:34

I drink alcohol as a refreshment, not to wake me up in the morning.

SmokeDispenser

@Xander, because it tastes bad then. theirs, at least;)

Adi

@Lighty Happy to hear that

Xander

@SmokeDispenser This is true. But one would think that one would prefer to simply make beer that doesn't taste bad, rather than settle for a competing over who can do the best job of masking the bad taste.

kalina

@Simon poutine is not a secret

SmokeDispenser

@Xander, well. Don't ask me, I supposedly don't even know about electricity;)

silverpenguin

14:37

I wonder how many people actually protect their $_SERVER requests in PHP

Simon

@kalina That was the joke, miss everything flies over your head because you're short.

kalina

WHAT

Simon

YEAH YOU READ THAT RIGHT

Ohnana

@Xander it's refreshing

SmokeDispenser

By the way, I got frustration-driven over here from SO.

Ohnana

14:38

@Simon O LAWD

silverpenguin

@Simon she cant hear you from down there, send a messenger

kalina

I may be short but at least I'm not rolling back and forth of the floor crying "ow my balls"

Xander

@Ohnana Yes, but so is a proper beer, consumed at a proper temperature.

SmokeDispenser

so, Hey everyone:)

Xander

@SmokeDispenser Ha

Ohnana

14:39

@Xander that's true

@SmokeDispenser hi hi, we're the chat room for CoolKids.SE

Journeyman Geek

@kalina You are somewhat unlikely to do that, even if you weren't a halfling

kalina

@SmokeDispenser we are not currently accepting refugees from SO

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silverpenguin

@JourneymanGeek she has big hairy feet?

kalina

@JourneymanGeek you'd be surprised

I have zero issues kicking somebody there.

silverpenguin

@kalina cruel

Journeyman Geek

14:40

I mean you rolling back and forth on the floor crying "oh my balls"

kalina

@silverpenguin evolution designed it to ensure that women could de-escalate any situation they wanted at will if they were pushed hard enough

Journeyman Geek

@silverpenguin that's hobbits.

kalina

@JourneymanGeek well, ok yes that makes sense

silverpenguin

Simon

What is Smeagol doing here?

kalina

14:42

you're looking in a mirror

Simon

pls wtf

kalina

ya you read that right

SmokeDispenser

@kalina Damn:)

Ohnana

@kalina this must be an example of the feminist biology i keep hearing about :P

wait, is everyone gonna go apeshit cuz i said the f word

Journeyman Geek

naw

kalina

14:44

@Ohnana it's fine I've accepted my role as a second class citizen in a room full of men

SmokeDispenser

@kalina Maybe rethink? The Q to my +16 accepted security answer was deleted from meta rage on off topic questions. That's close to political refugee;)

Ohnana

0

Q: Can i eat 1kg of raw beef?

My friend bet me to eat 1kg of raw beef, can I do it without falling ill or any other affects?

Simon

It's ironic that the new F word refers to people that get literally no old F.

Ohnana

er wha

@kalina come down off the cross dearie, we need the wood

SmokeDispenser

@Ohnana how is 'raw meat' on-topic for 'cooking'?:)

kalina

14:45

@Ohnana religion has nothing to do with this

Ohnana

@SmokeDispenser they accept questions on food safety

kalina

keep your crucifix to yourself

AviD

@kalina this is true, but has nothing to do with your gender. ;-)

Simon

Is it safe to eat a dozen of donuts

silverpenguin

@kalina if it helps you have bigger balls than most of the men in here

SmokeDispenser

14:45

@AviD :D

kalina

@silverpenguin yes they're so large they're attached to my chest

Ohnana

safe is a relative term with personal definitions

AviD

if it makes you feel better, there are a few others also second class citizen.

kalina

@AviD it doesn't

Simon

in b4

kalina

14:46

also I don't feel bad so I'm unsure where you got that impression

AviD

and @Simon is a third class citizen

Simon

in after

So predictable.

kalina

:28289738 wow

such appropriate

much wow

silverpenguin

@kalina self censored realised that was probably to far

kalina

I still saw it

AviD

14:47

ooh! we're getting somewhere.

Rоry McCune

@silverpenguin even though @AviD is a mod that doesn't necessarily make him a role model for chat behaviour

Arperum

@silverpenguin juuust a little

Simon

@RоryMcCune SHOTS FIRED

AviD

@RоryMcCune true story

Xander

@AviD And it's about time!

silverpenguin

14:48

@kalina sorry e_e'

Ohnana

@RоryMcCune OH DAMN

Simon

I always forget to star posts.

kalina

apologize more, I enjoy being the center of attention... not

Simon

fkin_lol_remove_da_not

kalina

even if you remove the not it's obviously sarcasm

Simon

14:50

On the Internet, sarcasm is not an existing concept.

silverpenguin

I was just saying sorry :P i thought it was funny, but i should have thought you probably wouldnt have... my brain delayed in thought process

kalina

@Simon so does that mean that everything you post to chat is just nonsense instead of sarcastic nonsense?

Simon

It means whatever you want it to mean.

Just like the pls dance.

AviD

@Simon your mean

[sic]

Rory Alsop

@Simon you rang? (some time ago...)

Simon

14:52

lulz roro

AviD

ruh roh

Simon

I didn't think a roar would bring all the roros to the yard.

Rory Alsop

@Simon Only Pirellis and Bridgestones for Subaru...

Simon

pls I got the Ventus V12 Evo2 for mine.

Also, my mate was running Michelin Pilot Super Sport on his 400 hp STi, it was doing allllll fine.

Rory Alsop

@kalina favourite line of the day

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