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14:00
@kalina windows 7 - thought I'd do the free upgrade to 10
so I have since bought 10
and after physically rebuilding it piece by piece I'll see how that does
It's not obvious if my Windows 8 DVD is a "retail" license or an "OEM" license and apparently that matters
but apparently if my Windows 8 license is retail than I can upgrade that machine all the way back up to Windows 10
but in doing so my current machine would suddenly fail activation and start "doing things"
ok
software licensing is bullshit
@kalina True story
Did you ever have to use FlexLM, @kalina?
that was interesting fun too
14:06
no but I have the usual iLok/elicenser/usb stick nonsense
@RoryAlsop IIRC that has a fun remote code execution bug
@kalina yes, I mustn't lose my Cubase one
@RоryMcCune interesting :-)
openlm.com/blog/… <-- handy 'cause no one ever upgrades it and it's bundled with a lot of "appliances"
that end customers can't play with
@RoryAlsop I did that once, that was a panic
was like losing my phone or something
quick, turn the entire house upside down
we're looking for a usb stick
...
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Q: Can I install Windows 10 on my new PC?

FlykI've tried comprehending the various published guidelines but in all honesty they're contradicting each other and not making much sense to me. I should have probably also thought about this before getting to the point where I've already built the machines. :) Here is my scenario: I have what I...

now I'm going to take a break from building PCs to sulk at not considering this point when it was time to
@kalina wonder why you have a downvote already. I upvoted, as I think it's a perfectly valid question.
14:20
because SuperUser
they're probably going to dupe it to a question that doesn't answer my question
Isn't it too localized?
You're asking about your PC and the whole world doesn't have your PC.
@Simon It's valid for that upgrade scenario - which is probably reasonably common
(but I think the answer is that you can't do it that route)
@RoryAlsop Sure but also she added a smiley face in the question.
Downvote-worthy to me.
I would imagine it's a scenario would be quite common over the next year
@Simon oh, good point
14:22
really?
Yeah - definitely downvote-worthy :-)
lol
(drowning man)
:D
the only time you're happy with me showing emotion is when you perceive that I'm raging
:@
^ That was the mad emoticon on MSN.
screw you guys, I would say die in a fire but it's obvious the material your bodies are composed of has already burned out already from the blackness of your heart
14:24
@kalina you can't burn a drowning man
a second screw you guys as an inb4
oh FFS
oh, unless you drown them in petrol, maybe
<hugs>
not burning hugs, obviously
that would not be very nice
@RoryAlsop We could be real petrolhead that way!
(can you tell I'm on a conference call)
@Simon reminds me - need to find a picture. Hang on
@RoryAlsop Did you mute your input to be able to complain loudly about the stupid things that are said?
14:26
...my input is muted...
there we go
getting closed as a dupe of a question that doesn't even ask the same question
rekt
@kalina Lovely.
oh superuser
you so speshul
I like your comment. And I think the answer is no btw.
But I might be mistaken.
I plan on clean installing with just a change in HDD later on
Read that you can do that through a "repair" USB thingy
14:34
well I'll play and see what happens, it's not really a fair comparison if one is running windows 7 and one is running windows 8 though
there you go - petrolhead
that's my eldest
@RoryAlsop Ha ha, awesome!
Hi, there?
i need help :)
?
@DaveMn Hi. With what?
I need thoughts on certificatiom
EWPTx
by elearnsecurity
Any thoughts/reviews?
i asked question on stackoverflow, they redirected me here
:_)
:)
thnx
14:47
I don't know this certification to be hnest
hmm..
Not heard of that cert but I have seen some of their training material in the past and it was pretty good
@Rory McCune Thats nice to hear :)
Whcih cert u have? from elearnsec
?
@DaveMn I don't have a cert. from them I just got a chance to see some of their training labs a couple of years back and thought they were quite well put together
@Rory McCune okay, thanks for ur thoughts :)
14:53
You upset me greatly, and I'm slightly disappointed. You're making a lot of assumptions if you believe that is a complaint, it was a more of an observation since I'm not sure I've ever seen that particular bar with the multiple buttons on it which clearly says "If no, edit your question". Any assumption that you've made that I was mocking you rather than making an observational comment is entirely your assumption and I cannot and will not be held responsible for any feelings generated as a result of your own actions. — Flyk 3 mins ago
@ka
@kalina to me? o.O
what i have done wrong? :-(
@DaveMn no - not to you.
oh you're very new
DO you see the reply button at the right of each post in chat
I'm new one
14:55
that is how you can respond to an individual
@DaveMn no I was linking a comment from superuser.com where they were being silly
ohh! ic
Gotcha! :D
now
so if you want to respond to @RоryMcCune - you need to click on the reply to him otherwise I get pinged :-)
any insinuation that I would use the word "silly" while simultaneously exploding is hilarious
@RoryAlsop nonono it's more fun if everyone just tries to @rory me :op
14:57
@RоryMcCune pffft
@kalina can you see how many close vote you have?
yes
15:20
That question should probably be put on hold or something, generating a lot of "Oh I saw this too!" answers.
@RoraΖ Not on hold, but it needs to be protected, which is exactly what protecting is for. //cc: @RoryAlsop @AviD @schroeder
@Xander Right, forgot about that option.
I just had to flag and downvote five of the six answers. Yikes. It needs to be protected in a hurry.
@Xander Looks like Community took care of it.
@Xander you're supposed to share such flag mines
that's disgraceful
you think because you have a blue name that you're above common courtesy?
absolutely shocking behavior
I am literally speechless
15:31
@kalina Last I saw there were still plenty of answers worth flagging.
I know, I obviously flagged them before I complained
Also, flagging the Q for migration to SU.
@Xander Told you
Google for "qQMphgyOoFUxFLfNprOUQpHS" and we're the third result.
@Iszi yeah it's impressive/scary how quickly google indexes SE sites and ranks them quite highly
you can see why we get spam Question/Answers
15:34
@Iszi Are there any useful results?
@RoraΖ So far just a bunch of people screaming the same questions.
"My touchpad isn't working in Windows"
somebody answers "Here is how you make it work in Linux"
I flag that answer
This is not an answer because it's about linux, but the question is tagged windows – Flyk 2 days ago declined - flags should not be used to indicate technical inaccuracies, or an altogether wrong answer
@kalina Wait what?
should not??
#superuser
But it doesn't answer the question mind explodes
15:36
It doesn't even attempt to answer the question.
Which is smack bang in the middle of NAA
I can't even come to my conclusion because it's too offensive according to my new rule of purposely trying to avoid being misinterpreted as being offensive
Holy crap, what a clusterfuck:
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Q: Weird windows update

executifsThis morning, I noticed that a new windows update was offered to me. It looks very suspicious to me: Here are the update details: gYxseNjwafVPfgsoHnzLblmmAxZUiOnGcchqEAEwjyxwjUIfpXfJQcdLapTmFaqHGCFsdvpLarmPJLOZYMEILGNIPwNOgEazuBVJcyVjBRL Download size: 4,3 MB You may need to restart your co...

Look at all these non-answers!
even though I've already failed since a SuperUser took offense to me being me :/
@kalina hey why are you here, shouldn't you be off building shiny new PCs?
or do you have "people" to do that for you?
@RоryMcCune they're build, I'm waiting for Windows 8 to install
@RoraΖ Damn it, I'm the slow one now.
15:38
and then I'm waiting for Windows 8.1 to install
@kalina ahh that was quick!
2
and then I'm waiting for GWX to start
and then I'm waiting for Windows 10 to install
and then I'm waiting for the Native Instruments control panel to install
and then the whole of Native Instruments Komplete
(which is 100+GB)
and then i'm transferring all of those isos to the other one so I can do my benchmarking
and decide which one is getting sprayed yellow and which one is getting sprayed pink
which will then involve dismantling them again
El Capitan is having a ton of issues with plugins, this will be fun.
@kalina @RoraΖ already shared it. Re-sharing sounds like a lot of work.
after decades of Apple smugly sitting atop their cloud pretending that malware didn't effect macs, suddenly they're getting owned
I like it
@Xander well, even @Simon shared it, come to whatever conclusion you want but in my mind that makes @Simon more awesome
15:42
wat
@Simon it's hardly a compliment, having a blue name costs 100 million awesomes so you basically had to exist to win in that comparison
@RоryMcCune that's what she said... -.-
I don't know you give someone a nice comment about their computer building skills and what do you get.. crude innuendo!
innuenenednedo
@RоryMcCune yes but I never TWSS so that was worth it
@kalina pls
15:46
@Xander 10/10
@Xander pls usage doesn't equal awesomes
@RоryMcCune this supports my "never" statement
Aug 11 '14 at 8:55, by kalina
@DavidFreitag twss
still supporting
15:47
Feb 20 '14 at 8:53, by kalina
@AviD twss
so not "never" then
nice, four times in two years is still "never"
@RоryMcCune Wow, she even twss'd on my birthday.
@kalina Got any linkage?
@RоryMcCune of course it is, "never" means "infrequently"
@kalina for Kalina based definitions of "Never"
15:48
@RoraΖ no, I was just spewing hyperbole all over the place and hoping somebody slipped
@RоryMcCune fogey
@kalina whipper-snapper
that's not an insult
that's what old people say as they're giving up
I whip-snap your mom.
@Simon BURN
sets fire to @Simon
15:50
warms hands
@RoraΖ I wanna do this too, it's fucking freezing in here.
#officeproblems
is "warms hands" a euphemism for masturbation
@kalina neither is Fogey, that's just what youngsters say when lose the argument
what im just checking
@RоryMcCune I don't lose arguments
that is the funniest thing I've ever read
15:52
@kalina Well it sure is now
@kalina said the loser... who lost
@kalina Yes. @RoraΖ got so aroused by you setting @Simon on fire that he could not control his fapping impulse.
oszi pls
@RоryMcCune if you ever reach the opinion that I've lost, this is basically always you getting an assumption wrong, world class misdirection, or you've completely misunderstood something
bla
15:56
@Iszi well I've heard that some guys just gotta when they need to but that's crazy
@kalina If you've think that I've lost, you lost.
Don't think about the game.
@RoraΖ I don't think you've lost, I know you've lost
@kalina I think it's called Pon Farr.
@kalina I wasn't even playing!
@RoraΖ Some losers at College would play this and constantly say "I lost".
15:57
Also, apparently there's over 80 people claiming the same update problem on Microsoft's site. answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-update/…
"I lost so much during Christmas break"
Fucking losers.
Allow me to explain, so you know about Schrödinger's cat, right? Well kalina's cat is on fire regardless of whether you're observing or not. There is only one possible outcome and the only way to win is to not take part
Lunch time!
Even if you think you've won, you've still lost.
War Games
16:00
kinda like my experience installing Windows 8.1
or me and relationships
aw
@kalina Relationships are over-rated for people under 30. Or maybe 35. Maturity does wonders.
@Xander What about people centuries old? Is @RoryAlsop screwed?
@Xander Under 35?!?!? You like dating people who already have had another life? (e.g. kids, married 163 times)
@Simon Pls. I'm married, I don't have to worry about dating at all.
16:56
not sure if boring or kinky :)
@Xander Or sex, for that matter. ;-)
@TildalWave Why can't it be both?
@DavidFreitag If something's simultaneously kinky and boring, you're Doing It Wrong™.
@DavidFreitag Boringly kinky? Is that even a thing?
WEE WOO WEE WOO IT'S THE OLD MEN ARE GETTING CRAZY POLICE
17:11
@TildalWave Someone's obviously never gotten an unenthusiastic handy jay
all pls
@kalina This is the same rule as for cheating your spouse ?
(Just trying to get a baseline here.)
@ThomasPornin rekt
17:36
@ThomasPornin -.-
anyway bbiab
@ThomasPornin I believe this is the same guideline as "Sauf une fois au chalet".
17:59
-4
A: How to recover original excel password

aeribusDepending on the version of Excel that created the file, I've successfully used http://www.freewordexcelpassword.com/ to recover unknown passwords from Excel spreadsheets in the past. The wizard is very easy to use, just select the file, select the type of attack to use (dictionary or brute forc...

I'm not saying it's the best answer, but certainly not a -5 answer.
I agree.
@Simon HUZZAH it is decided
Why are we not mods?
@Simon there's a Quebec Meme site?!? quebecme.me/ZGRmBQN
@RоryMcCune Yes sir.
@RоryMcCune Is it just a bunch of flappy heads?
18:05
@RoraΖ Because the site would be moderated properly if that was the case and obviously SE doesn't want that.
@Simon Scaredy cats
@DavidFreitag no idea what that even is :)
@Simon LMAO
ohnuhnuh pls
that's a good one
18:35
It's so humid that sticky notes are no longer sticky
it needs to fuckin rain already
@Ohnana PLS, all it does here is rain rain rain rain rain and did I mention rain?
@Simon it needs to rain over here
Let me blow dem clouds on your way.
@Simon that's because there is a hurricane on the way
18:38
wat
@DavidFreitag ooh really? what category
Once it's done being a pain in the ass it will stop being rainy
We never get hurricaned here.
We always get the ending of it or whatevs.
Joaquin you're an asshole.
18:39
It's 95% relative humidity
Hum yeah as usual we'll get the end of the hurricanos.
Luckily it's only 24°C
@DavidFreitag Sucks to live in the South
@RoraΖ I live in CT...
Then you're fine
18:41
95% humidity is not fine.
Yeah you're fine silly Dovid.
@DavidFreitag That's just an illusion.
95% humidity is swimming in your own fluids
@DavidFreitag meh, I'm used to it
I'm also used to swimming in @Simon's mom's fluids, AMIRIGHT!?
@RoraΖ Yeah just because I'm used to it doesn't make it suck any less
@RoraΖ have some self-respect man
18:42
@RoraΖ You might want to take a few penicillin shots. And maybe a few tetanus shots...
@Ohnana Why @Simon's mom doesn't, HEYO
@DavidFreitag tetanus isn't an std ya dope
@Ohnana Man I sure hope she doesn't have any metal....
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@Ohnana It is when @Simon's mom is involved...
18:43
well shit the hurricane is going to make landfall the day I have a proceedure scheduled
welp i'm getting a taxi
This was a great opportunity to make a rusty coat hanger joke, but I refrained. I just want you all to know that.
@DavidFreitag it's an IUD you donut
the exact opposite
@Ohnana It can be, if you're Dorothy in a porn parody of Wizard of Oz.
@Iszi NO.
oszi pls
18:47
@Ohnana Rule 34 FTW, always.
Inbox is such crap in comparison to gmail.
@Iszi shove your r34 in your bunghole
rekt
@Ohnana Did you just make a recursive Rule 34?
maybe
18:51
@RoraΖ sometimes... :-)
So I'm going from a 9.8% APR to a 2.89%
On my car loan
noice
And from $373/mo to $200/mo
And my insurance is dropping from $220/mo to $120/mo
YES.
That's a decent $270/mo I get to spend on not starving
Credit Unions FTW
19:10
@DavidFreitag Man, I gotta do something like that. Not sure what my APR is, but probably sucks. Dunno that anyone would wanna refinance me with the miles I put on that thing though.
@Iszi Find a local credit union, they will refinance you, and usually with lower rates than the big banks
And usually it's the insurance companies that care more about estimated yearly mileage not the banks
@DavidFreitag Put it to you this way: Car came with a 3-year/36,000 mile warranty. It's coming up on 3 years old and nearly double the mileage of the warranty.
@Iszi No bank will care about that.
@DavidFreitag I'd think they should - it affects the value they can get out of a repo if needed.
As long as you have decent credit a credit union will refinance you all day
@Iszi Stop thinking and call a credit union.
19:15
Two answers today, neither were first in, and both are accepted. That's 100%. I'm on fire.
@Xander I'll get a fire extinguisher. And some marshmallows.
Outlook is so dumb
If I save an attachment to a USB drive it keeps the drive in use until I close Outlook
office suite in general is awful
That's not true, excel is usable, and so is word
19:33
...
@DavidFreitag Well, wood boats are usable, that does not make them any good for rafting.
@M'vy Name one alternative that is better than products in the office suite
@DavidFreitag libreoffice
@DavidFreitag I'd go with LaTeX. But in a general way, I'm just teasing you :))
notepad++
19:37
@Ohnana Is crap
dreamweaver
adobe reader
@Ohnana Ever tried putting an image into notepad++?
@Ohnana Is ancient
@Ohnana is trolling you
@Ohnana Is so unbelievably terrible
@M'vy Yeah well not everyone is a tex programmer.
but seriously, the office 365 stuff just kills me
i like google docs a lot though
19:38
That's because 365 is shit
Word is a good word processor. Just not worth my time when I can do the same in TeX without thinking of it. Well most of the time. Well sometimes... well yesterday.
@DavidFreitag Word is better than LaTeX anyway. It's been scientifically proven. mappingignorance.org/2015/04/06/… //cc:@M'vy
@Xander No, to me that article says Word is simply "faster" than LaTeX.
@Xander blah. Statistics :)
@DavidFreitag Faster and fewer mistakes. == Better.
@M'vy :-P
19:42
If word processors were knives, Word would be a single-bladed pearl-inlaid walnut-handled pocket knife, whereas LaTeX is a trusty swiss army knife with 30,000 different attachments.
@Xander And I could still argue that for doing specific document again and again, LaTeX is better
@M'vy Yeah, but do you have a study to prove that? :-)
Both are very nice, and both will get the job done, but if all I want to do is turn a stick into a pointy implement of s'more making, I'll choose the pocket knife over the swiss army knife every time.
but the swiss army knife is free
take your pearl inlays and fuck off
So is Word...
19:44
also the knife yells at you if it forgets you bought it
Anyone who actually pays for Office deserves it.
i mean actually free, not 5-finger free
The only people who actually should are the people who actually need to, aka businesses.
The only reason why I prefer Word over docs is that I don't always have internet
I dont have windows so I dont have word either and I can have a life too
nice
19:51
I have lyx for monster document print
I suppose you could use Word Pad, that's like a braindead version of Word, and it comes with Windows.
And I do HTML for everything else
or confluence
but confluence is rubbish
@AndrewSmith No, thanks. I'd rather just open a program and start typing rather than worry about formatting and location etc
I do HTML this way, it looks like it's the best way
Not doing wyswing for documents is not that bad considering good editor or good syntax of the language
It's not the best in terms of time.
19:56
Never tried TeXlipse myself but it looks like it may be something
In WYSWING there are always mistakes which are easy to correct in source code
In word, one can only edit it by hand unzipping the docx file for example
with latex, it is editable like normal html
Like I said, if I were doing anything more complicated than writing a paper for an underpaid english instructor at a college, then sure I'd probably use some flavor of TeX
@Xander Interesting read. And no, it doesn't flat-out say Word is better. It demonstrates that Word is easier to use, and use accurately, for most common word processing tasks. But it also goes to demonstrate that LaTeX is significantly superior in these regards, when the document contains a large amount of mathematical equations.
@Iszi That last part was probably a flaw in the methodology or study design.

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