The DMZ

Simon

00:05

MY DONUT'S BUNNY BIT MY THUMB BECAUSE IT SMELLED LIKE GRAPES

BUNNY BIT MEH

AND THAT REALLY HURT

Scott Pack

03:08

@RоryMcCune Pictures of your home adjacent walks make me somewhat jealous.

TheJulyPlot

06:17

Some excellent pictures @RoryAlsop

The typhoon is a fantastic aircraft to see in display.

AviD

06:47

@Simon your donut's bunny pit smells like grapes?

oh nevermind.

shuddup me.

#selfsimon

Lucas Kauffman

mornin guys

Rory Alsop

Morning

Thanks @TheJulyPlot - I only have another 8000 from those two air shows :-)

M'vy

07:15

Morning!

Rоry McCune

Mornin' All

kalina

07:45

it was too cold to run this morning but I did it anyway and now my legs are cold

Rоry McCune

@kalina was lovely and chilly for a walk

lots of sunshine too

kalina

it's 10 degrees here

that's basically freezing

one of my male friends is totally overhyping his latest conquests on skype as well

why do guys do that

it doesn't make me respect you more, it makes me feel sorry for her

brb resolving heat issues

TheJulyPlot

My day has started with gas leak, currently sitting in my drive waiting for gas people to come and fix it.

Rory Alsop

@TheJulyPlot that sucks

TheJulyPlot

It does. Making Monday morning a bit more interesting though.

kalina

07:49

plus it's a good environment for an explosion, which is always good

Rоry McCune

@kalina t'was 6 degrees this morning here, up to 7 now!

kalina

that's not even a valid temperature

Rоry McCune

@kalina I have no idea, it doesn't seem like a clever thing to do

@kalina s'perfect walking weather...

kalina

if I wake up in the morning and the temperature is in single digits I go back to bed until the world stops messing with me

Rоry McCune

hoping it'll hold up for next week

when I'm doing a walking holiday

TheJulyPlot

07:50

Yeah..doesn't help that my stop value was in the off position according to the label, so rather counter intuitively I have moved it to the on position.

Rory Alsop

@RоryMcCune 7 here too - it's lovely. Clear skies, sun and a little dew on the garden

Rоry McCune

@RoryAlsop yeah is gorgeous here, clear and cold

TheJulyPlot

Sounds like a perfect autumn day. :)

Rоry McCune

yarr which is surprising 'cause the summer here was shocking

Barry Carlyon

Morning all.

Rоry McCune

07:52

mornin'

Rory Alsop

morning @Barry

kalina

the summer here and most of the other places I've been has been lovely

Barry Carlyon

Hope everyone is well! dives back into hacking the checkout flow

kalina

granted it's called "winter" in Australia

and consisted of rain and wind

but the rest of it was ok

Rоry McCune

In scotland there wasn't anywhere that had more than 6 days of over 21C all summer

kalina

07:54

oooOOOooo over 21C

that's almost... acceptable

humans are powered by the sun, they should live in sunny climates

Rory Alsop

Have seen some beautiful pictures of the Falklands from over the weekend - really heavy snowfall there

Arperum

08:08

Morning

Rory Alsop

@Arperum ello there

kalina

@Arperum o/

heat issues resolved by getting fully dressed

now... to the thing to do the stuff

in this instance I think thing=steam and stuff=Galactic Civilizations

Rory Alsop

@kalina hahahaha - need a t-shirt that has this

because it is always correct

kalina

makes notes additional merchandising opportunity "to the thing to do the stuff"

M'vy

@kalina That's one of my reason for preferring cold weather. You can do something about it without too much investment.

Rory Alsop

08:21

@M'vy exactly ^

If it is too hot I just get myself in trouble

Apparently nudity gets frowned upon in various places - who knew? ;-P

M'vy

@RoryAlsop and does not always solve the problem

Stephane

^morning folks

Rory Alsop

@Stephane morning

Stephane

Ah, my favorite security metalhead is here. Howdy ?

kalina

@M'vy if I ever get too hot I may change my mind but this isn't a scenario I run into frequently

M'vy

08:38

@kalina Well, I don't feel good when temp is > 30deg celsius. Guess I'm not really used to maybe.

kalina

I've had two proper crashes on Windows 10 recently

like, complete lock ups

I haven't experienced that in years

apparently it doesn't like playing a movie while exporting a track in cubase and running GTA5

but I don't see why not

so I watched four movies lastnight and didn't like any of them

but now I've finished watching all the movies I didn't watch in 2014

today I think I'm going to binge watch house of cards

M'vy

four movies in one night?

kalina

yes

M'vy

seems like a lot

or you have small nights :))

kalina

not really, I only gave them at most 35% of my attention

and I did complete an entire game of galactic civilizations while I was watching movies

there were too many guns in lastnight's movies though so I need something more complex

M'vy

08:50

@kalina yeah, been rewatching Firefly and Dollhouse this week-end.

kalina

problem with Firefly is there are so few of them I could just recite them as required

M'vy

@kalina yeah... I know.

kalina

the time before the last time I moved house all I had set up before the internet was connected was a PC with a copy of Serenity on DVD so I just played that on loop like 18 times

since then I have made great strides and now store all of my media on external hard drives rather than onedrive

M'vy

Only the film ? 18 times ? wow :)

kalina

that's not the worst, the time before it was the first transformers movie

and it took them ages to connect up internet access that time as well

I have seen the first transformers movie far too many times

M'vy

08:57

Eeeeek. Don't know why, but I can't stand this film...

kalina

definitely outside of the boundaries of sanity

no, me either

CGI was pretty decent at the time, I guess

M'vy

@kalina yeah sure.

kalina

I only really have one memorable "wow" moment caused by CGI though and that was the star trek reboot, where the CGI was so good it was obviously awesome while watching a cam rip

that might be a lens flare addiction actually

it had a similar aesthetic when it came to lens flares as mass effect

one of "fuck it, what this scene really needs right now is a massive lens flare. ACTUALLY, let's just replace the entire scene with a lens flare."

lensflare trek

M'vy

hum

lens flare are so ... not real to me.

Especially in some movie, when they thing they have to add one because it's cool or whatever...

kalina

rule of cool overrides scientific sanity

nobody cares that the shrapnel from the explosion would have ripped you apart because you looked fantastic walking away from it in slow motion

M'vy

09:07

yeah. I guess so

but, though lens flare can be really cool, I don't thing they are a mistake when you are shooting a film as a pro

kalina

the way the blast wave which would have burst your eyes and left blood pouring out of your ears wizzed past you and made your hair flick in that awesome manner

when the spaceship passes a star and there is a massive lensflare even though in order to have a lensflare the shot would have had to have been recorded by an individual in a camera and thus breaks the fourth wall

but nobody cares because that lensflare is 100% awesome sauce

M'vy

@kalina it does indeed

kalina

theoretically no movie should have a lensflare in it since it's supposed to be showing you scenes from specific points of view and none of those points of views involve you being stood behind a camera filming the movie

M'vy

unless you're seeing it from a CCTV camera PoV ?

Rory Alsop

@kalina this. And also, having done too much lens flare when demoing Alias|Wavefront back in the day, I just think it looks artifical

M'vy

09:20

@RoryAlsop the worst is when they CGI the lens-flare.

Rory Alsop

@M'vy yarrp - exactly

M'vy

Funnily enough, I like lens flares when they are made for the purpose of showing a lens flare

Like art photography

kalina

@RoryAlsop let's be fair, lensflare in movies, even when real lensflare, is still out of place because of my last statement

Rory Alsop

@kalina That is why I was agreeing with you :-)

kalina

well don't agree with me, it makes me feel like I'm being set up for some brick joke later in the day

Barry Carlyon

09:26

throws a brick into the middle of the chat room

Rory Alsop

@BarryCarlyon clonk - brick sits there...being brick-like

Barry Carlyon

@RoryAlsop Good Job Brick. I would love Brick. But Brick loves Lamp…

kalina

my stomach is making the rumblies

M'vy

I feel like déjà-vu

Rory Alsop

@M'vy what, again?

kalina

09:29

what does déjà vu feel like

Barry Carlyon

@kalina Something like a thing that you think you have felt before but you haven't felt before

kalina

does it feel like a-zig a-zig ah?

Rory Alsop

@kalina crunchy, but chewy at the same time

Barry Carlyon

facepalms

kalina

if you wanna be my lover...

...you gotta get with my friends

Barry Carlyon

09:30

Gotta get with my Friends

kalina

because friendship based orgies make friendship that never ends

Rory Alsop

@BarryCarlyon yep - that's deja vu right there ^

Barry Carlyon

\o/

kalina

coz tonight is the night when two become one

these lyrics mean that someone's going to die tonight

gonna stab you in the chest babe

had a little blood, now I'm back for more

some line that isn't the last one

set your spirit free, it's the only way to be

Rory Alsop

@kalina best line ever, that one!

kalina

09:39

so take a look you've done

'coz baby now we've got bad blood

OH MY GOD HE PUSHED ZOE IN FRONT OF THE TRAIN

Barry Carlyon

WHAT A BASTARD

kalina

shit just got real really quick

@RoryAlsop mad improv skills

my stomach has similar properties to a black hole this morning

I keep eating and I still feel hungry

TheJulyPlot

Temporary prader willi syndrome

feeling the computation to eat all the time

kalina

the only learning difficulty I have is that I can only learn things I like

the only growth difficulty I had was I stopped getting taller once I reached 5ft5

and the only eating disorder I have is today I've already eaten like half of my day's worth of food

TheJulyPlot

sounds like a fun disorder

kalina

09:52

I'm not allowed to discuss my fun disorder in public as it scares most normal people

it was either I refuse to discuss it or spend my life in an insane asylum for chronically awesome people

Adi

@RоryM Is Marion around?

kalina

morning to you too, @Adi

Adi

I have a Windows Phone question for her

kalina

I might be able to help with a Windows Phone question

not that I've actually charged mine for the last week

since I just went back to Android

or you could just ignore me, that's fine too

Adi

NavigationService.Navigate is being used to navigate through an application

Is the navigation history stored somewhere?

Is it accessible by other apps?

kalina

09:55

I actually don't know the answer to that question

Adi

No problem

kalina

seemingly there is a NavigationService.GoBack so there must be some history someplace

plus a RemoveBackEntry

Adi

Yeah, I thought they're in-memory kind of entries

But I want to verify they're not stored somewhere

kalina

I don't remember seeing anything in the UI that looked like a list of everything I had been to using every app I had been in recently

and a quick google by a non-dev seems to indicate each application has its own navigation history but who knows

there is probably a file somewhere that stores it just because because why not

the back button on Windows Phone was one of the things that just doesn't behave how it does on the other phones

protip: inhaling coffee is bad

lots of coughing

TheJulyPlot

10:23

uncontrolled coughing, random spasms, eyes watering and the look of someone whose puppy has just passed away, while trying and failing to look composed..never a good thing

kalina

sounds like me during my first pass of a mirror on a daily basis

I'm using the internet to read an article about the internet

I'm using the internet to read a discussion on the internet on an article about to the internet on the internet internet

TheJulyPlot

internet inception

kalina

so meta

TheJulyPlot

funnily enough I was just looking at some of the earliest registered domains

suspect one may be compromised

kalina

that's a good idea

that seems like a really useful way of learning a bunch of useless stuff while satisfying my curiosity

Adi

10:37

@kalina Jepp. Looks like it's done that way. Good enough for me

TheJulyPlot

watch out for mcc . com

looks like some funny redirects are happening

AviD

@Adi I dont think its stored anywhere, since none of that is remembered after shutting off / turning on the phone.

then again, might be a telemetry thing.

kalina

One day I will realize that you can't go dancing for 16 hours over the weekend wearing boots and then expect to be able to walk around

Arperum

@RoryAlsop I know of a couple bonus songs/extras added to limited editions that are complete songs like that.(Ensiferum has one called "Bonus Song", and Edguy has one, but I forgot the title)

AviD

hey @TerryChia, I just got SMS spam, trying to relocate me to Singapore. This your doing?

kalina

10:45

I need a method of gaining many cms in height without wearing heels

Arperum

@AviD Probably aimed for @LucasKauffman

AviD

doubt it, it was in Hebrew

Do you speak Hebrew, @LucasKauffman?

TheJulyPlot

platforms, stilts and.or pogo sticks..instant tallness

kalina

er

Lucas Kauffman

11:04

@AviD עם שם כמו שלי

מה אתה חושב

סופגניה

Journeyman Geek

@kalina do a Boudicca.

Lucas Kauffman

kundi

Rоry McCune

@LucasKauffman כן, אבל כל אחד יכול להשתמש באתר תרגום

AviD

@LucasKauffman pfft

yes, your secret google translate skills serve you well

@RоryMcCune heh, yknow its really funny seeing you guys write hebrew

Rоry McCune

@AviD it's weird writing it 'cause I literally have no idea what it says past what google tells me it says, could be anything :)

AviD

11:10

@RоryMcCune yes, sometimes subtitles and menus are very amusing.

kalina

"You're like cholesterol, always messin' with my heart."

"I'm just so happy I could burst! But don't worry... I won't."

Rоry McCune

@kalina Doctor Chat Up Lines?

AviD

@kalina you're so cute I could just bite you! But don't worry.... I won't.

...much.

Terry Chia

@AviD No, who wants to be in the same country as you?

AviD

@TerryChia hey now, what are you implying? I wouldnt even touch your mom!

Lucas Kauffman

11:14

@AviD oh yay, then we can drink together :o

is your family coming too or just you?

AviD

check out this guy, thinks he's @Simon...

@LucasKauffman huh? to @Terry's mom?

Lucas Kauffman

@AviD no when you move

or is it just a question

AviD

@LucasKauffman I AM NOT MOVING

Journeyman Geek

Is everyone moving to singapore? ;p

AviD

lol geez

Journeyman Geek

11:16

(this is clearly a plot to make me more social ._.)

Rоry McCune

given that some of us can't survive above 25C ... no

Lucas Kauffman

@JourneymanGeek elections on friday, PAP giving a free holiday I heard :o

@RоryMcCune @TerryChia promissed I'll get used to it

AviD

@RоryMcCune thats what a/c is for...

Rоry McCune

@AviD doesn't work outdoors

Journeyman Geek

@LucasKauffman: I'm voting. By which mean I take an elevator down, vote at my void deck, and go go stalk people in cardboard boxen the rest of the day

AviD

11:16

@RоryMcCune yeah, we dont go outdoors for a few months.

except to the pool / beach / etc

Journeyman Geek

/me is excited. FIRST VOTE IN 27 years in my area!!)

Rоry McCune

@AviD well we kind of avoid it when the Midgies are about..

so different reason same effect

Journeyman Geek

@LucasKauffman: voting day is ALWAYS a public holiday

and its always during a weekday

typically a friday

Lucas Kauffman

@JourneymanGeek I didn't know that, but in all honesty, the opposition doesn't seem to make a lot of sense to me (from an outsider's view)

Journeyman Geek

@LucasKauffman: depends on the party

SDP actually does a decent job of being a UK style opposition

Lucas Kauffman

11:20

the one thing I saw was CPF payback and 500 dollars per singaporean

extra

Journeyman Geek

and WP's enough of a threat the government's playing a bit dirty.

Lucas Kauffman

and i was calculating

and was wondering where they will get the money

Journeyman Geek

@LucasKauffman: CPF is a big issue

and its our money anyway

Terry Chia

@LucasKauffman Yeah that wouldn't work at all.

Lucas Kauffman

@JourneymanGeek in all honesty I don't understand why comparing it to our system

Journeyman Geek

11:20

thing is how its invested is entirely opaque

Terry Chia

Some people just don't have the basic maths skills.

Lucas Kauffman

it makes a lot more sense

@JourneymanGeek Who invests it? Temasek?

Journeyman Geek

@LucasKauffman in theory, the CPF board

but they may or may not invest it in temasek. Or elsewhere

Lucas Kauffman

it wouldn't surprise me if it was temasek considering who owns temasek :p

one thing I'm scared of is a party which wants to kick out the foreigners

well that's because it influences me, I guess, not necessarily you :p

Journeyman Geek

Singapore first?

Arperum

11:26

@LucasKauffman Oh like we have some morons like NVA and VB here in Belgium?

Journeyman Geek

Naw, the real issue is the model of population growth to maintain economic growth.

Also xenophobia here is wierd.

TheJulyPlot

All the 'phobia's' are weird...apart from arachnophobia.

kalina

@TheJulyPlot I hate spiders

@RоryMcCune no just lines from Fallout Shelter

which I've basically completed

TheJulyPlot

same

kalina

since the maximum number of dwellers you can have is 200 and I have 199

TheJulyPlot

11:34

we have something in common now

kalina

and there really hasn't been any content in... quite some time, since the fundamental mechanics are pretty easy to grasp

M'vy

@kalina spiders eat mosquitoes :)

However they are banned from the bathroom

kalina

spiders are icky

evil creatures with eight arms that capture their pray in an unescapable doorway where you'd least expect them and then EAT THEM ALIVE

although I obviously have to admire their methodology just because of how ridiculously evil it is

if I wanted my pray to have time to comprehend exactly how fucked they were before meeting their doom, a web would be how I did it

Journeyman Geek

Prey.

kalina

on the scale of evil spiders > hitler

Lucas Kauffman

11:41

@Arperum NVA in all honesty, is doing a good job

kalina

nothing worse than opening the door to the shower only to be met by a spider

that's like fuck that shit I'm just going to dry shampoo my hair

Lucas Kauffman

@JourneymanGeek yea I know, I feel like certain people are disliked more than others

@Arperum if you have to clean up the SPA mess ...

Rоry McCune

@kalina what about being met with @Simon surely that'd be worse!

kalina

that depends

if it's a tiny spider sized simon then I could just stamp on it, and if it's a full size simon it's called neutralizing a trespasser with excessive force

namely by smashing the shit out of the shower and raining glass down upon him

Lucas Kauffman

@Arperum the best example is the whole thing with electricity prices

Rоry McCune

11:44

@kalina I can see you've given some thought to what happens if you meet a shower intruder

kalina

@RоryMcCune I have given thought on neutralizing threats in every room of my houses

I avoid killing spiders, I just wish they'd ask before entering so I could say AIIIIIIIIIENOOOOOOOOOGETAWAY

Stack Exchange

Careful mathematical analysis demonstrates small-scale irregularities in Gaussian distribution

M'vy

@kalina I have rather a "do not disturb policy". If they mind their business, they can stay. And by mind their business, I mean : stay out of the bathroom. Not complying result in complications (usually for the spider).

kalina

merely seeing a spider is disturbing

M'vy

Well I guess I have a higher tolerance threshold

kalina

11:55

they're like hostile alien invaders

sometimes the only solution is fire

M'vy

Well I usually go for an accurately tensioned magazine. Or a shoe.

kalina

deoderant can and a lighter

AviD

@M'vy I prefer screeching in a high pitched voice and running out of the room. I immediately and bravely retrieve either my wife, or one of the little kids who are too dumb to know better, and courageously send them in to take care of the critter.

2

M'vy

Careful, back-fire's a bitch .

TheJulyPlot

I lost a fringe to deodorant can an lighter once

kalina

11:59

I've never had that issue, I suspect one day I will be caught out and melt my face off

TheJulyPlot

lets hope no spiders jump on your face when you armed with a deodorant can and a lighter

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