The DMZ

David Freitag

00:00

@Simon wat

JukEboX

01:26

@Simon Fort Minor is great. They ha vea ful album coming?

Rory Alsop

04:50

Morning all

Rоry McCune

07:18

@RoryAlsop early start!

Morning All

@Flyk G'Day :op

AviD

08:29

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Rоry McCune

@AviD you're thinking some of the DMZ particpants might be in need of Camomile Skin Care?

AviD

@RоryMcCune well I specificially pinged @Simon for that. Dunno if it will help, but its worth a shot.

Rоry McCune

@AviD BTW the best way to ping @sim is to use @sim these days as that way you can attract the attention of his donut at the same time :)

AviD

heh good point

M'vy

08:55

hi

Rоry McCune

watcha'

M'vy

@RоryMcCune tech intel

Rоry McCune

@M'vy huhwhut?

M'vy

@RоryMcCune what do you meant by "Watcha'" ?

Rоry McCune

@M'vy ah, it's a greeting

M'vy

09:01

oh. I was on "What are you doing" thingy

Flyk

@M'vy just a silly brit being silly

le ros boeuf

Rоry McCune

@Flyk well brits are renowned for silliness...

Flyk

I have no silly in me today

I have overwhelming tiredness in its place

M'vy

@Flyk Rosbif ?

Flyk

@M'vy ja

it's late afternoon and I am going to sleep

nn

M'vy

09:04

@Flyk eventually "boeuf rôti" if you need a literal translation

Rоry McCune

09:22

@M'vy I think @Flyk was referring to this news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/2913151.stm

AviD

@Flyk lucky @Simon is not here, he would have offered to remedy that situation.

Flyk

@RоryMcCune i think flyks brain is so tried its misfiring

i thikn flyks brain is so tired that confusion started

so why cant i sleep

Rоry McCune

@Flyk brain too tired to sleep... can happen :)

M'vy

09:37

@RоryMcCune well after all, you're named after a meal, and AFAIK, we love food :)

Flyk

mmfood

la have filled their resevoirs with plastic playpen balls

how intresting

so im looking fors ome place to eat

never seen a site that classifies places to eat according to whether there suitable for first dates

Rоry McCune

@Flyk down on the harbour is nice, although can be a bit pricey

Flyk

as usual with these ideas ill browse for a bit and then just order a sandwich via room service

i complain i cant sleep, its suggested i take sleeping pills

i look at the side affects of those

might as well have just stuck with weed

Journeyman Geek

10:03

heh. All the time or specifically?

Flyk

what was the question

Journeyman Geek

Oh about not being able to sleep ;p

Flyk

while I'm in timezones that don't match my timezone

Journeyman Geek

ahh that

sleeping pills sound like a horrible idea for that.

Flyk

ive always slept bad but thsi is worse

Rоry McCune

10:09

The best advice I've seen for jetlag is to try and stay up long enough (e.g. at least early evening locally) to get your body back into some semblence of rhythm (of course easier said than done if there's a big shift)

Journeyman Geek

ya

That happens to me naturally. I cannot sleep on planes

Flyk

@RоryMcCune theres only so many times you can do that

Rоry McCune

@Flyk well if you're doing a lot of time zone switching then yeah that could get tricky after a while

Flyk

out of all of available options the is just complaining about it on the internet is best

Rоry McCune

@Flyk well complain away then :)

you could go for a walk round to the opera house, that might help

Flyk

10:11

im on the other side

it would take me the rest of my life to walk to the opera house from here

i am probbly closer to home than i am to the opera house

Rоry McCune

@Flyk hey go up to mindarie if you're near there, then I'll get you an address and you could really freak out a friend of my by saying "rory says hi"

Flyk

i was sent by the rory, bow before his messanger

also do you have any weed

Rоry McCune

see that would be funny

@Flyk actually knowing this friend....

Flyk

also, the statement resulting in #periodsarenotaninsult further destroys my faith in humanity and makes me hate "men" even more

Rоry McCune

@Flyk wrong window for that message?

Flyk

10:20

this is a society problem, its "not all men" but its enough of you that its all mens problems

Rоry McCune

or have I missed some context?

Flyk

oh i have been reading the news

Rоry McCune

ahh, bad plan..

Flyk

i hoped that other people dying would sooth me enough to fall asleep or that id find something cute enough to cause a cuteness overlode

Rоry McCune

@Flyk reddit.com/r/aww/top/?sort=top&t=all

Flyk

10:23

i refuse to use reddit

Rоry McCune

@Flyk imgur.com/r/aww/top

Flyk

u think thats clever but its not

Rоry McCune

@Flyk is that reddit?

Lucas Kauffman

bronies

Flyk

10:42

@RоryMcCune it's content associated with reddit

Rоry McCune

@Flyk by that mark, most of the Internet is associated with reddit...

Flyk

explains my limited internet usage

Flyk

10:56

oh sweden are dropping charges of sexual assault on that rapist assange

way to go, rape somebody, go hide in some embassy

fucking scumbag

Journeyman Geek

You forget "Have good apologists"

Rоry McCune

@Flyk s'that you reading more news then... see I told you no good would come of it.

Rory Alsop

11:18

@Flyk I prefer #trumpisaninsulttoallhumanity

But yeah, what t'other Rory said

No news is good news

Journeyman Geek

lol

Rory Alsop

I prefer the whole no news thing

Journeyman Geek

I'm having a laugh at local pre-election coverage.

(we're having an election, everyone thinks its september, but there's no official announcement yet)

Rоry McCune

Tianjin, China Explosion Synced Up

►

^yikes!

that is not a good thing ..

Rory Alsop

11:44

You are once again mistaken in your description of Security.SE. We cover attack, defence, investigation, intelligence, forensics, threats, risk, compliance, mitigation, vulnerabilities...etc etc etc. When using forensic tools and software, usually you are not "trying to break security" - you are performing a forensic investigation - entirely on topic for Security Stack Exchange! — Rory Alsop 45 secs ago

Kenorb - really doesn't get what Security Stack Exchange is about

AviD

@RoryAlsop I love how somebody else that never used our site gets to decide what we're about

Rоry McCune

@RoryAlsop no, I've been going through their suggested questions, pointing out that most of 'em are on-topic here :)

Rory Alsop

@RоryMcCune heh - good man

AviD

@RоryMcCune actually most of them would be closed here - for not being a not-crap question

interestingly it looks like kenorb doesnt really get what his own proposal is about, either

e.g. a specific question about SQL injection he commented to close as its "not hacking question"

heh, he's also against questions on Blue Pill

this is... weird

raz

12:00

Awesome I can't login to Area 51 either

this is super frustrating

Flyk

good, you don't need to log into A51

AviD

apparently he has his own very narrow definition of hacking.

Flyk

it's full of the worst kind of people

as long as you can log in to chat, everything is fine

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raz

@RoryAlsop Is it possible to redefine the "Trying to break security" Close reason? Because I feel people don't understand what it means.

Rory Alsop

@raz I'm not sure it would help with the rubbish examples kenorb notes

raz

12:05

@RoryAlsop Yeah I just mean in general I think people are too quick to close for "breaking security" when the question is on-topic or could be reworded to be on topic.

Rory Alsop

well - close reasons can definitely be amended, however in a mature site such as this you'd need to get strong buy-in from the community. I'd suggest raising a meta question on this and posting your wording suggestion as an answer

raz

Except I can't log in to Meta sigh

Rory Alsop

aaaaah

:-(

why on Earth is your machine blocking meta

raz

Don't worry, I posted a Meta question on not being able to login to other Meta sites. So at some point it will resolve itself.

It's not all sites

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Q: Currently some Meta sites do not allow me to login

This started happening a couple of days ago. When navigating to the Information Security Meta page (after being logged into InfoSec) I'm greeted with the Sign Up and Login buttons. If I click Login the webpage reloads, but no change to my login status. I seem to be able to go to other Meta s...

bug login auto-login

Simon

@raz Have you tried turning it off and on again?

raz

12:18

@Simon Yes

Simon

Then I can do nothing for you.

raz

@RoryAlsop Actually it seems to be a weird thing with HTTPS Everywhere

lol, sooooo If I have HTTPS Everywhere enabled. I can login to InfoSec, but not Meta. If I disable HTTPS Everywhere I can login to Meta, but not InfoSec. :facepalm:

Rory Alsop

ehwut?

Simon

pls roz

raz

@RoryAlsop Seriously

I've just tried it, hopping back and forth between the two. Using Chrome.

This was not an issue for me before Monday. So either the new design updates to SE are messing with things. Or Chrome updated and handles the extension differently for some bizarre reason.

Rory Alsop

12:24

@raz without httpseverywhere, I can login to all...

:-)

raz

Well aren't you something

Rory Alsop

if only I could get httpseverywhere to work here

:-)

@raz I'd suggest adding this info to your meta post

Flyk

@raz everybody is, if we weren't, we wouldn't exist

@RoryAlsop ffffffffffffffffffff

he added the word "EDIT" into his post

sets fire to @raz

raz

@RoryAlsop I did but I found the problem

Flyk

plzl2se

raz

12:28

@Flyk You prefer not having "Edit"?

Rory Alsop

@raz well - you have found the problem, but you have not yet found the solution

Flyk

Each post is supposed to read as a single post, not a discussion

the word "EDIT" followed by another block of text is not a post, it's a discussion

a year from now, nobody will care that you had to edit the post to add more information

you're just filling your post with useless nonsense

that adds nothing at all to the post

I hope you're happy with yourself for wasting everybody who looks at your posts time with your NEWLINEEDITNEWLINE

raz

I see your point, editted

Flyk

that basically never works

makes notes

interestingly

I can't login to area51

but I can login to area51 discussions

I wonder if Windows Phone 10 has the CSOD

Rоry McCune

@Flyk CSOD?

Flyk

12:36

cerulean screen of death

like windows 8+

Rоry McCune

ahh

Rory Alsop

@Flyk oooh - "cerulean" ... get you and your posh ways

raz

@RoryAlsop The solution is for Meta to use the same damn certificate as every other Meta site.

Rory Alsop

@raz lol

Flyk

@RoryAlsop im confused

information security really feels like the least loved site on the network

Rory Alsop

12:38

@Flyk I assumed cerulean meant something oceanic, or to do with mythical sea creatures

@Flyk really?

Why?

raz

I answered my own question with the relevant URL's and how they differ. Turns out ssl8217.cloudflare.com doesn't match *.stackexchange.com

Flyk

what kind of information security site doesn't have a certificate for all of its subsites?

what kind of site gets the new profile months after everybody else?

what kind of site has a color scheme this ugly?

what kind of site allows avid to be a moderator?

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Rory Alsop

@Flyk I doubt I will even notice the new profile when it arrives

Flyk

I mean the list is huge

Simon

ovid

Rory Alsop

12:40

I don't notice colour schemes

AviD

@Flyk not least loved, just most feared.

Rory Alsop

@Flyk good point

AviD

@raz they can't, duh

Flyk

@AviD you should make them fear you more

rise up! make your voices heard!

Rory Alsop

do we have the new profile now?

Flyk

12:40

take back control from the stack exchange overlords

no

Rory Alsop

If so, what does it actually do

Flyk

because stack exchange dont like you

AviD

@RoryAlsop I agree

Flyk

and want you to look ugly forever

Rory Alsop

(or more accurately - what does it do that I may need)

Simon

12:40

@AviD One time, an outsider was laughing at us, got his IP and totally hacked his face out of the universe.

raz

@AviD They use wild card certificates for all sites. *.stackexchange.com.

Flyk

@RoryAlsop more mod tools

Rоry McCune

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is a good example of a site that has it :)

it looks rather nicer and has some stats and things

Flyk

even the BETA SITES get the new stuff before you

AviD

@raz exactly. meta.*.stackexchange.com doesnt work.

Rory Alsop

12:41

Hmmm - I use that site every day and don't see any of that

Guessing I log in a different route

Flyk

basically, face it, you're hated

Rory Alsop

checking it out now

Flyk

nobody likes you

and there's nothing you can do about it

Rоry McCune

@Flyk IIRC that's 'cause the CSS is the same on all of those, so easy update

Flyk

@RоryMcCune that's what they tell you

Rоry McCune

12:42

@Flyk are you getting a bit overly tired now?

raz

@AviD yeah I see that now.

Flyk

only a fool would believe that

@RоryMcCune im through the tirednes barrier

now im running purely on sugar

AviD

and, before you ask, ..stackexchange.com wont work either.

Rory Alsop

This may sound controversial - but on viewing my profile page on Music - the new profile sucks so badly

AviD

@Flyk I'm not sure @Simon does.

Rory Alsop

12:42

Navigation is a complete pain

Rоry McCune

@Flyk that may not be entirely healthy :op

raz

@AviD I just don't know why it was working fine last week and not this week.

Rory Alsop

If I used my profile page at all I would be totally pissed off with it

Flyk

@RоryMcCune cest lavie

AviD

@raz why are you even trying to log in to meta.sec.se?

Rory Alsop

12:43

What is all this pointless nonsense they have filled it with

Simon

la vie*

c'est*

AviD

just log in to sec.se, and you'll be automagivcally logged in to meta

raz

@AviD What do you mean?

Flyk

@AviD because nobody listens to him in chat and he wanted to be heard

Rory Alsop

I now have to scroll down to see anything useful on my profile

AviD

12:43

20 secs ago, by AviD

just log in to sec.se, and you'll be automagivcally logged in to meta

Flyk

@Simon correcting my spelling right now is definitely bad for your health

Simon

no

Rоry McCune

@Flyk I think it's 'cause he wants to put an answer on my question that the mods are avoiding :op

AviD

@RoryAlsop sounds like a euphemism

raz

@AviD False, it attempts to use the bad HTTPS connection with meta.

Flyk

12:44

especially since ur only correcting the obvios ones and not all of them

raz

it doesn't auto-login correctly

Rory Alsop

Oooh - quick caveat to all of this. It may look very different if I don't use an archaic browser...

AviD

ah wait, so is the problem the logging in, or the HTTPS?

@raz give us a screenshot

Rоry McCune

@RoryAlsop how is IE6 these days?

Flyk

yes, share more information with somebody who cant fix your problem

raz

12:45

@AviD HTTPS

Flyk

hey @raz give me youre account details and i will make sure its not an account problem

Rory Alsop

@RоryMcCune lol - may not be quite that bad

AviD

so shuddup about the logging in ;-)

raz

@Flyk sure! Username: raz Pwd: ` __|__`

Flyk

zomg you use piipe as your password?

Simon

12:46

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Q: Music stops playing when pressing the clutch down

In my car the music of my car radio stops playing almost every time when I press the clutch. It does not always stop, but probably in 80% of the cases. It never stops when I do not press the clutch. The stops have a length between 1 and 10 seconds. I have no clue what this could be. Where should...

vw clutch audio car

Rоry McCune

@RoryAlsop all single digit IE is.... no so good al. BTW I noticed that another EY'er has moved over to $large_bank

Simon

ô_ô

Flyk

oh, you just suck at markdown

raz

@Flyk haha, this is true

lol

Rory Alsop

@RоryMcCune yeah - he sits 25 ft away from me

;-/

and re-sent me a facebook friend request

Simon

12:47

Oh it's a volkswagen, definitely an electrical issue.

Rоry McCune

@RoryAlsop erk!

Flyk

$large_bank ?

what is the name of $large_bank ?

Simon

Yes, sometimes $BIG_BANK too.

Rory Alsop

@Flyk my current employer

yep, that too, @Sim

Flyk

ive never heard of $large_bank

do you have any $large_customers

Simon

12:48

pls no double ping

Flyk

ok @sim

Simon

I'm gonna have to do the whole unicode roro thing if you guys keep going.

Rory Alsop

@Flyk less than before, I'll guess

Rоry McCune

@Simon what @sim you not too keen on your donut finding out about your shenanigans ?

Flyk

btw @sim you could just beat them by renaming to @sim so that @sim is a match for @sim and then @simon's.donut doesnt get pinged

Rоry McCune

12:49

@Simon welcome to my world :op BTW telling people you don't like that will make them do it more...

Flyk

also @sim u could resolve this by renaming @simon's.donut to an acceptable name

Simon

You lads will be sad as F if I do the roro thing.

And still, you abuse the sim thing.

raz

Are you even speaking in words?

Simon

Can't expect some dude who can't even login on the meta to understand what I'm saying.

EEEEEYYYYYOOOOO

Flyk

@Simon i know, what kind of casual cant even log into a website

@raz's technical level is surpassed by most small children

Rоry McCune

12:54

@Flyk a filthy one, that's what kind

Simon

filthy casuals

Flyk

i nearly made a critical mistake

typing exactly the same thing as @sim at exact the same time

would have made us look like we had the same thoguht

whereas obv that never happens

Simon

thoguht

Rоry McCune

Simon

I feel sorry for that dude.

Flyk

12:57

@sim

Simon

He's the ultimate "I'm never gonna get laid" guy.

Flyk

i feel sry for that @sim

Simon

.

Flyk

hes the ultimate "im never gonna get laid" @sim

Simon

Fine, I'll tell my donut to never ever come back.

da fuk was dat

Flyk

12:58

43 secs ago, by Simon

Fine, I'll tell my donut to never ever come back.

@Simon @sim done

Simon

pls moar edits

Flyk

now @sim is a girl I feel sorry for

dating that @sim

poor @sim

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