The DMZ

JukEboX

00:18

BACK!

@simon's.donut OMG A BUNNY! Look slike my bunny!

JukEboX

00:32

@DavidFreitag Where you at?

Ohnana

fukking bunnehs

JukEboX

Hi @Ohnana !!

Ohnana

@JukEboX oh hi

JukEboX

Just you and me here :)

Ohnana

@simon's.donut they're closing sex.se ;-;

JukEboX

00:36

oh noes

Ohnana

it's been up for 13 days and they're killing it

JukEboX

How come?

Ohnana

5

Q: Sexuality SE will be closing on Fri, 8/14

I'm going to be a bit blunt: This site is going to be more distracting and emotionally draining to maintain than your average subject. It is unfortunate; I suspect this is one of those areas we may actually be genuinely helpful, but the subject matter alone seems to demand that we support better...

JukEboX

I can't see it

Ohnana

eh?

it's a stack exchange link

that and I can't really summarise it as the reasoning makes no sense

JukEboX

00:39

I am not a part of that community and it won't let me join

Ohnana

i guess they closed the beta

they said they lack of professionals and the lack of traffic are the major factors

which makes no sense since it's in private beta

JukEboX

Noone can join it because its makred as private. A

Dur

Ohnana

the dude's a stack exchange employee

either there's shit going on i don't understand or he's misinformed

Simon

gud design lads

Ohnana

WHAT

schroeder

00:47

mine, too

Ohnana

where's the people helped?

Simon

So, is that our new profile?

Legit as F.

simon's.donut

@Ohnana well that sucks -.-'

Ohnana

i know right

simon's.donut

and the reasoning does make no sense to me either

Ohnana

00:52

i was excited

Simon

I bet some nurdz at SE couldn't do his work because he had a boner constantly due to browsing sex.se

simon's.donut

guess I'll keep hanging out on biology.se

JukEboX

HI @simon's.donut :)

@Ohnana well it was a good idea. Did the the staff turn into prudes?

Ohnana

01:12

@JukEboX i dunno

TildalWave

@Ohnana Where's how many people helped you? :) I miss that on the new profiles

Ohnana

@TildalWave eh what?

TildalWave

On new profiles (obviously not here yet because they've broken it LOL) you have "x people reached" but no "reached by y people"

Ohnana

that would be cool, but harder to calculate

JukEboX

Testing out this new VPN

TildalWave

01:17

or simpler, just count the number of people that posted answers to your questions

Ohnana

oh hai vpn

@TildalWave that works too

JukEboX

I am really liking the new John Oliver show

TildalWave

Why are they closing Sex.SE? What lack of professionals are they talking about? It's obviously an enthusiast site :D

JukEboX

I never made it in

TildalWave

It would be interesting to know what type of sexuality professionals they're looking for. Like Kinsey, or like Flynt? Or perhaps like Staller?

Ohnana

01:34

lol i think kinsey's fuckin dead

JukEboX

What is a Sexuality Professional??

TildalWave

Dude, I said like him. You really need everything spelled out? :P

Or dudesse, I actually dunno

Ohnana

oooh like researcher types

TildalWave

aye

Ohnana

yeah they don't have funding in the us so fuck that

TildalWave

01:36

That might as well be the reason. Which is kind of ironic. (I'm not gonna spell this out)

Ohnana

i'm to tired to humor

^^ look I just proved my point

TildalWave

Dude, go to sleep, you're not still operating heavy machinery are you? So what's the point of sticking around while being too tired?

JukEboX

Hhaahh

Ohnana

@TildalWave i have homework to do

and i am at home

JukEboX

@DavidFreitag Can't use the VPN. It kills my homegroup

restart br

David Freitag

02:10

@JukEboX that is very odd :[

JukEboX

//

?

@DavidFreitag I was right. When you join the VPN it adds your machine to an outside network

THis would work better if I could connect it with my router

Then everything connected would work

I am going to upgrade my router and if I can't do VPN that way I am to cancel it :/

Lucas Kauffman

05:26

morning gents

TildalWave

06:18

morning @Lucas

gents

Lucas Kauffman

06:44

hows @TildalWave this morning?

Lucas Kauffman

06:56

dat spam for male enhancement

TildalWave

@LucasKauffman Can't complain. Oops, I just did :) How's you doing?

@LucasKauffman You should totally write back if they also offer tripod clothing :D

Rоry McCune

07:38

Mornin' All

Lucas Kauffman

@RоryMcCune A rory morning to you!

Rоry McCune

blogs.oracle.com/maryanndavidson/entry/no_you_really_can_t <-- it's bad when you can't work out whether someone hacked the Oracle CSO's blog or if that's actually a real posting

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Lucas Kauffman

@RоryMcCune yea I read it, my stomach turned

Rоry McCune

if that's real, then Oracle really have absolutely no clue

condescending customer hostility is rarely a winning business strategy

Lucas Kauffman

@RоryMcCune Has Oracle ever been associated with words such as love and kindness? I think Oracle is my image of Umbrella :p

M'vy

07:49

hey

Lucas Kauffman

bonjour monsieur

Rоry McCune

@LucasKauffman no but directly threatening customers for doing security reviews is a step up even for them

Mornin' @M'vy

Lucas Kauffman

@M'vy what do you call a crocodile with a monocle and top hat?

@RоryMcCune especially if the market has shown bug bounty programs work

M'vy

hm

Lucas Kauffman

There are a number of bright minds working at Oracle, I just don't understand why they always respond in this cocky way. Especially if you know there will be a number of people considering this as a challenge to find security flaws in Oracle and throwing them into the open.

Flyk

07:54

and today is finished \o/

victory for the rainbow team

still, I am alone

so much idle

Rоry McCune

@Flyk duff duff duff's suitably mixed?

Lucas Kauffman

I still think plastic dreams by Jaydee is one of the best house songs ever

TildalWave

dude that's so old even I've heard of it

AviD

@RоryMcCune yeah, loved that. It is definitely consistent with her other vitriolic writing.

I remember her beautiful piece on the stupidity of using static analysis internally.

@RоryMcCune really? seems to work very well for their sales team.

Rоry McCune

@AviD amazingly

AviD

08:05

@LucasKauffman this is better than a bug bounty program! You get even more researchers interested, and doesnt cost a dime!

seriously, that is like putting a big bullseye all over Oracle's derriere.

Like their classic "Unbreakable" marketing...

Lucas Kauffman

@AviD I felt bad writing that

even if it's mean satirical

I'd suck at working at Oracle

AviD

@LucasKauffman nah you have good practice at Big4

OH SNAP

Lucas Kauffman

@AviD :o oy you take that back! We're not Oracle!

AviD

@LucasKauffman no, but you could be

you should hire John McAfee. Only difference then would be the drugs and hookers.

and really, Big4 consultants are practically hookers already anyway.

OH SNAP

Lucas Kauffman

@AviD :O

:'(

you hurtz mah feelingz

@AviD although hiring John McAfee would be very amuzing

AviD

08:11

@LucasKauffman oh pleeze, we've all been there.

I used to be the professional equivalent of a daytime hooker.

4

Lucas Kauffman

As of January 2013, McAfee was in Portland, Oregon,[22] but he has since moved to Lexington, Tennessee, where on the 2nd of August 2015 he was arrested for driving a car and possessing a handgun while intoxicated.[23]

classic John McAfee

TildalWave

@AviD Jeez dude we're all hookers in capitalism, where do you live? North Korea? I bend over and get a new Mercedes. They bend over and get another potato. If it's a good season.

AviD

dammit @Rоr'o!

Lucas Kauffman

@TildalWave NORTH KOREA BEST KOREA

TildalWave

hehe

Lucas Kauffman

08:15

I'm actually contemplating on visiting North Korea this or next year

TildalWave

why?

AviD

@LucasKauffman to pull a Rodman?

TildalWave

In a helicopter, equipped with a surf board, listening to Wagner's Ride of the Valkyries?

Lucas Kauffman

@TildalWave because it looks sureal, it's the same for my interest to visit Chernobyl and Prypjat

@TildalWave Nah, I'm saving that for Vietnam

TildalWave

OK then in a jeep, with a golf set and 'Hot Lips' O'Houlihan?

Flyk

08:24

@RоryMcCune mmmh... 95%

AviD

@TildalWave I think you lost him. Remeber, @LucasKauffman is not much older than @simon...

Lucas Kauffman

@TildalWave No I'll be singing Katy Perry's "Firework"

while driving a T90 tank

Flyk

such violence

why can't we all just get along

TildalWave

What violence? We're just talking about movies

Rory Alsop

@Flyk lol - you're starting to sound like a Rory now

Flyk

08:35

psh, I'd never lower myself to that level :P

I'm starting to sound like I'm tired and really don't have the energy to continue

Rory Alsop

That's surely because your work day is complete

now ... rest

Flyk

my work day is completed but it's still light and there are plenty of hours left

Rory Alsop

@Flyk rest in the sunshine

Flyk

after successfully burning the candle at both ends I'm left with the bit in the middle

Rory Alsop

erm...

Flyk

08:37

please, it's not even warm here

I'm not going to go sleep on the beach with it being <15 degrees with 20kmh winds

Rory Alsop

@Flyk okay, duvet smuggling it is then :-p

Flyk

I need a shower but I don't have the motivation/energy/food/care

ooh, room service is here

Rory Alsop

ok - one of your 4 needs taken care of then

which will improve 2 of the others

then you are left with the question: do you care enough to have a shower

how needy is "I need"

lol

Lucas Kauffman

@RoryAlsop depends if your own stink bothers you I guess

Flyk

I don't "stink", it would probably take weeks for me to start smelling off and that could never happen

however being sat around a bunch of men all day in an enclosed space has massive downsides for various internal calibrations

Rory Alsop

08:45

@Flyk "internal calibrations" - I like that

Flyk

in other words, you stink.

and it breaks me but I tolerate it long enough to complete the task I was assigned

your body odor is a subtle as being hit in the face with a train

you're more awful than Megan Fox's acting in Transformers.

AviD

@Flyk Megan Fox acted in Transformers?

when did she learn how to do that?

Rory Alsop

@Flyk mine, currently, is actually fine. Unless you really dislike a hint of "Sartorial by Penhaligons"

@Flyk is she that annoying teenager

Flyk

"that annoying teenager" narrows it down to like 20% of the worlds population

AviD

@Flyk or @RoryAlsop its like 90%

Flyk

09:00

@AviD well no because "teenager" has a specific meaning

AviD

@Flyk yes and relative to @RoryAlsop like everybody is a teenager

it is a joke about @RoryAlsop's age, you see.

I was implying he is SO OLD that even grownups are like teenagers, relative to his EXTREMELY ADVANCED OLD AGE

Flyk

no, there is no relativity involved, "teenager" is a clearly defined age group starting at 13 and ending at 19

AviD

yes the joke was that relative to @RoryAlsop even a 40 year old is like 16

Flyk

your attempt to be funny failed

you're a failure

everything you do is a failure

your face is a failure

just go back to bed

try not to fail at that

AviD

should I continue to explain how jokes work? I dont mind, I get to keep saying how old @RoryAlsop is

Flyk

09:03

I don't need an explanation, I'm chatting with one

AviD

actually, did jokes work the same way back when @RoryAlsop would tell them?

Flyk

oh, that was harsher than intended :/

AviD

nah, @simon doesnt mind

Flyk

Where did @simon's.donut go

she was here briefly, said hi, posted a rabbit and then VANISHED

I think @Simon took her away

wait a minute

surely if @Simon and @simon's.donut with the names they have, @simon's.donut is getting all of @Simon's pings

is that like stalking

that means that if she joins every channel @Simon uses, she can spy on him without any effort at all

AviD

oh wow

CodesInChaos

09:07

@RоryMcCune How does Oracle know their customers are reversing the code? Are they shipping spyware?

AviD

@Simon is that true

Flyk

I can't believe that @simon could manipulate her like that

AviD

@Flyk isnt it the other way around?

Flyk

I thought better of him but then he forced a woman to identify with herself as a donut

CodesInChaos

Identifying as "simon's sock" would be the honest choice.

Flyk

09:10

@AviD no... never in the history of mankind has a woman manipulated a man

AviD

@Flyk wut

SO not saying anythign like

I meant about how @simon's.donut sneakily rootkitted his chatpings

Flyk

well actually I suspect that was @Simon's fault

he just didn't think it through

AviD

@Flyk that is very likely

Flyk

nearly every instance of a woman acting even remotely outside of normal is down to a man

Rory Alsop

I was wondering why I suddenly had six pings...

@Flyk hmmmmmm - not 100% convinced that's true

AviD

09:15

@RoryAlsop ya think???

Rory Alsop

depends how you define 'nearly' I guess

AviD

it's her sexist trolling disguised as neo-feminism.

Flyk

There's no feminism involved here, dismissing my life experiences as feminism or trolling is only going to further contribute to the correctness of the opinions formed from my life experiences

I think the main issue is that even though I also hate my own gender, I rarely voice those issues

AviD

@Flyk trying to generalize a world view based on one person's limited experiences - and their own biased view of those experiences, at that - is not really much else besides trolling.

Except, well, a really good story.

Rory Alsop

@Flyk that could lead to others seeing you as biased...yes

even if you aren't really

AviD

09:23

@RoryAlsop or especially if she is

Flyk

@AviD dismissing anything other than actual trolling as trolling is possibly as bad as hate crimes depending on what is being discussed

you're not contributing anything by accusing a non-troll of trolling other than alienating the individual in question

AviD

@Flyk the fact that you only voice issues based on a specific gender, even though the other genders equally bother you, is precisely indicative of said bias

Flyk

@AviD the actions of men have a direct impact on me, the actions of women have an indirect impact on me

AviD

@Flyk which is a non-negligible contribution, in some cases ;-)

Flyk

and thus you call it bias, I call it priorities

AviD

09:25

okay okay, to be fair I am engaging in a bit of trolling myself right now, but just a bit

@Flyk ah, okay if that were to be true, that would make non-biased sense.

I just find that hard to believe, admittedly based on my own limited experience, which is patently different from yours.

Flyk

If the average man lived a day as a woman, they would find it hard to believe most of the things they encountered during that day

Rory Alsop

@Flyk that may also be true in the reverse

This is the problem - any individual has experiences only they have had

because we are all individual special little snowflakes

except me - I'm a Blizzard!

ahem]

Flyk

I'm not so sure, I've hung around with enough men to know there aren't that many tricks to living life as a guy

Rory Alsop

So we need to try and be aware that individuals are not just what we see, but the stuff we don't ever see

@Flyk maybe I'm just very different to the ones you have met

maybe you have met an odd subset

I dunno

Flyk

you wake up, skip showering, go out in yesterday's clothes and are still socially acceptable, you have no real special needs, in fact the only thing off the top of my head that would even be an issue would be performance anxiety

and armed with that information I know how to ruin the day of any man

Rory Alsop

09:31

@Flyk I'd disagree with every part of that paragraph

except for 'wake up' which I do typically do

Flyk

well it's a good job you disagreed, because if it were anybody else who disagreed I would have disregarded their complaint

Rory Alsop

Can't skip showering - you'd be stinky. Similarly I'd be objectionable in yesterday's clothes (let's exclude camping, festivals etc where standards may lapse)

When I had long hair, that was extra effort - not so much now I'm just fuzzy

And performance anxiety - lol

Flyk

this has far less mass than I was expecting, does it get bigger?

I have chewed on pens with more girth than this

Rory Alsop

@Flyk lol at mass

Flyk

cute, it looks like a little finger

Rory Alsop

09:34

@Flyk that shouldn't be considered performance anxiety, but instead someone being a bit unkind.

Flyk

or my favorite... "get hard or go home"

Rory Alsop

If people were just nice to each other and cared about each other, these things would almost be impossible

(I know, I'm such a hippy)

Flyk

well, if people were just nice to each other and cared about each other, my entire life experience would be literally the opposite

I'm sure that would have a strange impact on who I turned out to be

it's alright saying "be nice" and "people should" and "bla bla bla bla" but that applies the entire way through

and it hasn't, so I'm not

in fact, I feel it's actually getting worse, but that's because of the unfortunate situation I've put myself in where I'm not allowed to react like I would react to certain things

so I have to bottle it all up

like getting asked if I was the tea lady earlier

excuse me, "talent", I'm the person here to arrange and produce the track, if you want a drink, fuck off and make yourself one because if you talk to me like that again I will pump you full of boiling water

whereas what actually happened was a mild glare before getting back tow ork

CodesInChaos

@Flyk What? There are actual people arranging and producing the track? I thought you just sing a bit and then press "Enhance" in the CSI Audio Suite.

Flyk

I know, that's how most people think it works too

the idea that somebody sits there tweaking it for hours until it sounds perfect is completely lost on them

Lucas Kauffman

09:44

@CodesInChaos and then generate a single colored pixel and use their Video Suite to generate a music clip synced to the music?

Flyk

tbh the big thing for me at the moment, aside from my usual man hating, is vocalists

I hate vocalists more than I dislike men

CodesInChaos

@LucasKauffman We're not that advanced yet. You have to draw a couple of stick figures for that and a vague description of what you want.

Lucas Kauffman

@Flyk isn't most hardcore just grabbing movie quotes and putting that to music?

CodesInChaos

Like "Some cool dance moves" and "must be innovative".

Lucas Kauffman

@CodesInChaos the best quote I still find is the one where one of the CSI Cyber people said "I decided to join CSI Cyber when my wife was killed by a Cyber criminal"

TildalWave

09:47

this is not an improvement, right? security.stackexchange.com/review/suggested-edits/57922

CodesInChaos

@LucasKauffman But think of the cyber children.

Lucas Kauffman

@TildalWave needs more improvement

Rory Alsop

@Flyk well, that is perfectly deserved :-)

TildalWave

@LucasKauffman exactly

Flyk

@LucasKauffman sure, who said anything about hardcore though?

Lucas Kauffman

09:48

@Flyk ah I thought you were in the hardcore scene

imagine Flyk is actually Steve Aoki

TildalWave

wanna reject so I edit it?

Flyk

@LucasKauffman nope

CodesInChaos

@TildalWave I think it's an improvement, so I wouldn't reject it.

Flyk

the reason everything you've heard from me is 170bpm was specifically misdirection

TildalWave

@CodesInChaos dude, I just offered to improve it better

Flyk

09:49

it's not like you've heard anything from me that's even remotely mixed, either

CodesInChaos

@TildalWave When you edit you can mark it as helpful or not. I'd consider it helpful.

Lucas Kauffman

@TildalWave It hurts my eyes

@Flyk I've not heard anything?

TildalWave

How do you say "dude" in German? Sein Dudenhoch? :)

Flyk

@LucasKauffman well that's good

Lucas Kauffman

@TildalWave kerl

TildalWave

09:51

@LucasKauffman oh I knew that one LOL

CodesInChaos

@TildalWave Depends on context. "Typ", "Kerl", "Dude"...

You can't really use the first two when talking to them, only when talking about somebody.

TildalWave

but I translated "your dudeness" correctly, yes? :)

Lucas Kauffman

Kumpel

my german is so rusty I really need to practice

Guten Tag Herr CodesInChaos, wie geht es dir?

Flyk

I didn't realize languages could oxidize

TildalWave

@LucasKauffman I thought that a well brushed German is supposed to sound rusty

erm, this could easily be misinterpreted LOL

CodesInChaos

09:54

@TildalWave No. Assuming you're addressing them as a parody of "Your highness", nobody would understand it.

TildalWave

yeah well their loss :P

CodesInChaos

I have some deteriorating French in the basement of my skull. I wonder how long it'll take until it's fully decayed.

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