The DMZ

Iszi

21:00

@RoryAlsop "Principle of Least..." and all, y'know?

David Freitag

I am generally awake for extended periods of time, so 3 or 4 every few hours isn't unheard of for me.

Iszi

@RoryAlsop You've never heard of bawls?

Rory Alsop

@Iszi well - not in this context, obviously

David Freitag

@Iszi Wait- you have?

Iszi

@DavidFreitag Gamer, duh.

Jeff Ferland

21:01

Tasty caffeine drink. Often described as resembling a Shirley Temple in taste.

Expensive and hard to acquire

David Freitag

@Iszi Apparently it's American only. Outside of my friends, I've never actually known anyone who knew what I was talking about.

Rory Alsop

@JeffFerland oh - then I approve

David Freitag

@JeffFerland Check that Amazon link.

Iszi

@JeffFerland Psh. You just gotta know where to look. I think ThinkGeek sells cases of it.

Rory Alsop

I always like guarana in things too. Disappointed they stopped making the Chocolate Guarana Boost bar

Jeff Ferland

21:02

@Iszi Yeah, and after shipping you'll pay over $2.50 / 10 ounces, making it $$$

I guess per ounce it's not that much more then Red Bull, but... grumble...

Simon

I'm trying to find a way to sabotage @Xander's campaign and so far I've only found this: "He did not post an IBC video when he was nominated which shows that he doesn't care about the community".

How does that sound?

Marion McCune

@roryalsop While I see you on - when are you coming up to see us? Midgies will be gone soon....

David Freitag

I bet if you opened a Bawls retailer you'd make money hand over fist. bawls.com/retailers

Thomas Pornin

@ScottPack It is capped at 20.

Iszi

Damn. Can't find the RLC that had bawls at a cookout. Funny stuff.

Rory Alsop

21:05

@MarionMcCune Definitely need to do it soon - I'll try and give a plan of possibles (working around gigs, kids, cats, sacks and wives - well, gigs and kids, anyway)

Iszi

@ThomasPornin Of course you would know.

Xander

@Simon But I did donate $100 instead.

Rory Alsop

@Iszi it says it in the SEDE

> (case when u.Reputation > 20000 then 20000 else u.Reputation end)/1000 As CappedRep,

Simon

@Xander Which didn't do any good to anybody in the community!

Rоry McCune

@RoryAlsop and trips to St Ives?

Iszi

21:06

@RoryAlsop Fine. Ruin my point.

Marion McCune

@roryalsop Your kids would like it here I bet :). River, loch, woods, pine martens - we have it all :)

Xander

@Simon It did in the community of those suffering from the disease. It's not my fault they don't hang our here as well.

Simon

@Xander Oh what now, are you racist towards those who suffer of ALS?

!!!!!

This sabotaging will be much easier than I thought.

Xander

@Simon No, my uncle suffers from ALS.

David Freitag

@Simon No, in fact, he cares more. Which is why he donated instead of pouring cold water on himself.

Jeff Ferland

21:08

We are clearly the small town election of crazy people.

Iszi

Someone's logging this for the debate, right?

David Freitag

@Iszi Yeah, SE is. It's called the transcript.

Iszi

@Simon making fun of @Xander's uncle's debilitating illness? That should tank someone's campaign!

David Freitag

Also @Iszi @Jeff you can by bawls directly from bawls here: shop.bawls.com

estimated shipping of $25 to northeast US

Jeff Ferland

@DavidFreitag LOL. Their only shipping option is $40 Fedex ground.

Rory Alsop

21:11

@MarionMcCune I'll make sure they don't do what they did in Spain then. They made sharpened bamboo spears and spent hours trying to catch fish in the river. Failed completely, but still ...

Jeff Ferland

ThinkGeek has cheaper shipping, at least.

David Freitag

@JeffFerland For which item? I chose the original 24 pack.

Jeff Ferland

@DavidFreitag Yup. West coast shipping is higher, I guess.

Rory Alsop

If only thinkgeek did cheap shipping here. That's the only reason I hardly ever use them.

Simon

@Xander Shit, now I look like an asshole.

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David Freitag

21:12

@JeffFerland That must indicate where their bottling facility is (or at least the warehouse I suppose).

Simon

@Iszi :(

@DavidFreitag Hey, I did both actually!

Rory Alsop

I would hope most folks did both. Then it actually makes a difference

Simon

Yeah, I did the video because it was gonna be fun, not to avoid donating.

David Freitag

@JeffFerland At $50 + $17 for shipping, that's still ~$2.80 per bottle, which isn't too bad. IIRC that's what I payed the last time I bought one from a 7eleven.

Iszi

@RoryAlsop Either makes a difference. One contributes directly to the cause. The other raises awareness, and adds higher probability that others may contribute directly.

Rory Alsop

21:16

Well, yes - I should have said directly :-)

(I'm cooking Bacon - am distracted)

And drinking tequila and guarana flavoured Desperados beer

David Freitag

I'm going to be baking some mapleized bacon tonight.

Rory Alsop

8 rashers of bacon, 6 Scotch pancakes, half a pound of vintage Cheddar. Mmmmm

Simon

@RoryAlsop I'm cooking meat for burritos!

It shows how diverse I am, therefore making me a great candidate.

coughs

Rory Alsop

Lol

Thomas Pornin

@DavidFreitag Does that mean that you are no longer in an hospital ?

Or that hospital safety rules are just a bit lax ?

David Freitag

21:20

@ThomasPornin Yep, they let me out yesterday, I forgot to mention that.

Xander

@DavidFreitag Congratulations!

Simon

@DavidFreitag Wait, how long did you stay there?

David Freitag

@Simon Two weeks almost

No wait

lol

Rory Alsop

@DavidFreitag - excellent

Simon

@DavidFreitag Really? I didn't think it was that bad.

Rory Alsop

21:23

How long will you have crutches?

David Freitag

@RoryAlsop They said a few months, I really only use one though tbh

@Simon They they needed to monitor the break to make sure no marrow was leaking out.

Scott Pack

@ThomasPornin I was noticing that except for rep my stats were very similar to the other guys but my score was significantly lower. I chalked it up largely to reps. Silly reps.

@RoryAlsop THAT LOOKS PHENOMENAL!

David Freitag

@Xander Thanks, I was losing my mind being stuck in there.

Xander

@DavidFreitag Uh, yikes.

Rory Alsop

@Scott - it is! I added maple syrup because David made me think of it

Xander

21:27

@DavidFreitag Yeah, hospitals are not exactly the most positively stimulating environments.

Scott Pack

@RoryAlsop So pan fried ham on top of cheese and something else. What's the tortilla looking thing and what kind of cheese?

@RoryAlsop I also just read what it actually was. What's a Scotch pancake?

David Freitag

@Xander It was mostly because of the butt pain. The bed was super comfortable, but because of my leg and the sling it was propped up into I had no opportunities to flip over. I only really fall asleep with my face buried in a pillow.

I just realized how difficult it's going to be to go to the grocery store with a crutch.

Thomas Pornin

@DavidFreitag Yeah, too much DMZ can have that effect.

Rory Alsop

@ScottPack - also known as drop scones (not drop bears) - same recipe as crepes, but less water or milk gives a thicker pancake

Scott Pack

Yes. Yes!

David Freitag

21:30

Welp @Scott has a food boner.

Scott Pack

Dude.

Smoked. Cheddar.

Xander

@DavidFreitag You should buy yourself a Lil' Rascal.

Rory Alsop

@scott Vintage - extra matured

David Freitag

I will be buying some chipotle gouda while I'm shopping tonight.

Thomas Pornin

@DavidFreitag It may be time to test these Web-based grocery shops. You don't get to choose your vegetables, but home delivery looks like a nice thing in your case.

Rory Alsop

21:30

Mmmmm

I miss our original room topics :-)

David Freitag

@ThomasPornin Not so difficult that I will need to resort to that. My apartment building isn't really well suited to any sort of delivery service

Thomas Pornin

@DavidFreitag With gouda you can do sort-of yakitori.

These are small skewers with gouda in the middle, wrapped in sliced beef

David Freitag

@ThomasPornin Heh, I have no idea what that is. I was just going to shave some onto the bacon when I bake it.

Scott Pack

I think smoked gouda is one of my favorite foods.

Thomas Pornin

Then some soya sauce, and fry it on a pan for just enough time to melt the gouda.

Rory Alsop

21:33

Mmmmm

David Freitag

I enjoy smoked gouda, but after a while it gets a bit overwhelming. Chipotle gouda on the other hand has a very light flavor and a nice kick.

Scott Pack

I forget. Are we supposed to respond to comments on nominations or are we supposed to wait and handle those during the QA?

I basically like any kind of strongly flavored cheese.

I've yet to find a cheese I didn't like. At worst they were boring.

David Freitag

@Iszi I don't know if you saw it, but your nomination poofed.

Thomas Pornin

@DavidFreitag It makes sense, since he does not have a name.

Rory Alsop

I too am a cheese addict, @ScottPack

Food of the gods

Scott Pack

21:35

@RoryAlsop Paris was a pretty nice time for my cheese habit let me tell you.

David Freitag

@ThomasPornin Makes sense. I suppose we can expect @schroeder nomination to disappear on the same grounds then.

Scott Pack

Once I realized that those were cheese shops I was smelling and not blocked up sewers.

Thomas Pornin

@DavidFreitag Mmh, wasn't @schroeder one of the TMNT arch enemies ?

Scott Pack

In most cities I've been to that smell is either a sewer or fermenting dumpster. In Paris they were cheese shops.

David Freitag

@ScottPack For some reason, and I can't put my finger on it, that sounds like a place I would avoid like the plague.

@ThomasPornin No, that's shredder, I believe.

schroeder

21:37

@RoryAlsop ... feet of the angels ...

David Freitag

lol

schroeder

woot! "candidate score 35/40" High score!

David Freitag

I wonder what @ThomasPornin's candidate score is.

Thomas Pornin

@DavidFreitag There's a SQL query somewhere that says I would be at 34 or so.

David Freitag

@ThomasPornin That's what I had you pegged at. I wouldn't figure you for having the moderation/editing badges.

Thomas Pornin

21:41

I am not a regular reviewer. At one point I did review a fair amount of edits, but the endless close/reopen votes just bore me.

David Freitag

In case anyone is wondering, I ported the SEDE query to Sec.SE. data.stackexchange.com/security/revision/336128/434049/…

It probably already exists here though.

I just realized there was a feature to switch sites. Woops.

Rоry McCune

csoonline.com/article/2947377/network-security/… <-- interesting Defcon Talk pulled

I assumed when I heard it was 'cause the kit broke FCC rules, but apparently not

David Freitag

@RоryMcCune AWWW I was really looking forward to that talk too!

Rоry McCune

@DavidFreitag yeah I was too, sounded kinda cool... whilst the conclusion about a national security letter sounds tinfoil hatty, the other obv. reasons seem to have been ruled out

TildalWave

@Iszi You withdrew from your mod nomination?

Rоry McCune

21:50

@TildalWave first scandal of the campaign, paternity tests indicated that he's not @Simon 's dad after all!

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Thomas Pornin

@RоryMcCune But he still could be @Simon's mom.

Simon

@ThomasPornin HA!

Rоry McCune

@ThomasPornin that would explain a lot!

Simon

Coup de théâtre!

AviD

@RоryMcCune yeah their announcement reeeheeelly sounds like that though.

TildalWave

21:52

@ThomasPornin that would make the scandal even worse, since it would involve two candidates, also @ScottPack that had him gender tested :)

AviD

unless thats what they WANT us to think

wow, looks like its gonna be a tough election. no bad candidates.

David Freitag

@RоryMcCune I have half a mind that he withdrew because he couldn't get the damn thing working.

AviD

speaking of which, hey @Simon aren't you running?

;-)

TildalWave

I'd nominate myself but I'm not sure that "I can make cute icons" is a good reference LOL

schroeder

woot! Avid thinks I'm "not a bad candidate!" I claim that as my first endorsement!

Simon

21:54

@AviD I'll probably end up posting an application because I'd love a t-shirt but I'm not expecting to win at all :p

Rоry McCune

@DavidFreitag that would be a good cover...

Gilles

AviD

@schroeder oh! sorry! I missed you there!

David Freitag

@RоryMcCune What? Insinuating that he got an NSL to cover the fact that his device doesn't work?

AviD

naw, that doesnt feel right if its not @Simon.

David Freitag

21:56

I have seen no videos, no code, no schematics, no nothing to substantiate the fact that his device works, so that's what I'm assuming. Most people would be very eager to get something up on GitHub.

TildalWave

@Simon I'd object that. No dounut should ever wear a Sec.SE t-shirt!

schroeder

@AviD dang it! "@AviD thinks I'm not objectionable enough to be noticed"

Simon

@TildalWave I'm afraid that it's gonna be a generic SE t-shirt, though :(

TildalWave

I'd write to CMs to send you the generic SE swag instead :P

schroeder

still an endorsement!

Simon

21:57

@TildalWave Oh, it's not generic for elections?

WOOHOO!

TildalWave

@Simon Is it? It should be Sec.SE, we have design for swag

@RoryAlsop modeled for it :)

Simon

I thought they no longer made site-specific swag but I hope that I'm wrong!

TildalWave

that would be news to me

check chemistry meta

AviD

oo! Then I should nominate, just for the swag!

TildalWave

with new design ... it includes swag templates

Thomas Pornin

21:58

@TildalWave There was sec.SE specific swag (I have two T-Shirts) but then they apparently ran out of it.

AviD

oh oh, speaking of which - what is the current process for requesting conference swag box?

Thomas Pornin

When I got 100k they only proposed generic SE swag.

Maybe they got some new one since.

TildalWave

@ThomasPornin Surely they have some company printing those and can make more? Newly graduated sites still seem to get custom designed swag

Rоry McCune

@DavidFreitag aye

Thomas Pornin

@TildalWave My guess is that they make a batch but don't care for refill queues.

TildalWave

22:00

Plus, they should update ours since we renamed from IT Security into Information Security

AviD

pretty sure they DO have site-specific for conf swags.

TildalWave

also that yes

which could be requested

(if you're organizing a conf or similar)

AviD

yeah, there used to be a form to fill out for requesting conference swag, but I dont think thats still active. @RoryAlsop you happen to know?

TildalWave

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Q: Request for giveaway swag and information for the B-Sides London and 44Con security conferences

I am heading to the B-Sides London security conference on April 25 2012, and the 44Con later on in the year, and as these two conferences attract a good range of individuals who should be members here (everything from penetration testers, technical security architects and implementers through to ...

@AviD link still works

AviD

@TildalWave is that still looked at?

David Freitag

22:03

Seriously messed up. csoonline.com/article/2944732/data-breach/…

TildalWave

@AviD I think so. I've seen someone ask about it in TL not too long ago and Anna posted that link

AviD

ah cool cool. havent been in TL in a while... thanks!

David Freitag

@TildalWave Lol, the comments on that answer

TildalWave

I just go there to complain :))

@DavidFreitag yup that's Aarthi :)

AviD

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Q: 2015 Moderator Election Q&A - Question Collection

In connection with the moderator elections, we will be holding a Q&A with the candidates. This will be an opportunity for members of the community to pose questions to the candidates on the topic of moderation. Participation is completely voluntary. Here's how it'll work: During the nominati...

discussion featured election

ICYMI

TildalWave

22:09

@ThomasPornin I've seen some talk of yours where you wore it. That was a proud moment for me :)

Scott Pack

@AviD ICYMI ?

TildalWave

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