The DMZ

Flyk

12:00

or my default set of keybindings for first person shooters

because Id on't need that information

I used to bookmark things I found interesting

that resulted in me having a collection of 500+ bookmarks Im never going to use again

Rory Alsop

@AviD I make them unboring, where possible

Flyk

and I can't just delete them, because I bookmarked them for a reason

Rоry McCune

@Flyk I use Evernote for that to avoid bitrot getting my links

Rory Alsop

(some exceptions in $LARGEBANK may apply)

Flyk

but there's no way I'm going to look through all of those

Rоry McCune

12:02

@Flyk also Evernote is searchable

Flyk

I would be completely lost without my phone, as well

basically become the device over the last couple of years

Rory Alsop

@RоryMcCune does evernote track valid links? I may need to actually learn it

Rоry McCune

@RoryAlsop you can clip from the browser (plugin for FFox or Chrome) and it takes a full copy of the page (or bit of the page) that you want

Flyk

my phone is also probably my weakest link

Rоry McCune

keeps that in a searchable format

Flyk

12:04

I can't imagine that the pattern would keep it locked for long

AviD

@RоryMcCune you're a searchable format

Rоry McCune

@RoryAlsop also on iOS (and presumably android) you can send pages straight from the browser to Evernote

@AviD s/youre/you're/

AviD

That was a #simon moment. Sponsored by grammar nazis everywhere.

Rory Alsop

your're

AviD

I dont know what you folks are on about.

Rоry McCune

12:05

@RoryAlsop I used to lose a lot of data to sites going dead, which is supremely annoying, so thus evernote :)

Flyk

in fact, what are your opinions on smart phone security?

Rory Alsop

@Flyk it's not great

Flyk

like, the act of securing it

Rоry McCune

@Flyk iOS not bad, WP8 good, Android shocking

Rory Alsop

and sadly android, which I prefer, is the worst

Flyk

12:06

I use android \o/

AviD

and yet, it depends greatly on choice of platform.

@RoryAlsop some platforms are worse than others.

I'm looking at you, Android.

Flyk

and it's locked with a pattern rather than a code

(go ahead)

but it will take your picture and email it me if you try to unlock it and fail once

so my inbox is full of pictures of my face

Rоry McCune

@Flyk gotta keep your screen well polished with those or it's visible from the marks on the screen

AviD

@Flyk ssssuuuure, thats the reason.

Flyk

@RоryMcCune I use an overlapping pattern

AviD

12:07

not obsessively taking selfies of yourself and emailing them to yourself.

Flyk

if you go out of bounds while drawing your pattern and connect the nodes in a particular way, you can overlap and draw an X

@AviD I don't take pictures of myself

AviD

54 secs ago, by Flyk

so my inbox is full of pictures of my face

Flyk

@AviD I didn't take those, though

Rоry McCune

@Flyk helps but with those there's usually only a certain number of valid combos...

Flyk

@RоryMcCune true, but after 5 fails, it nukes the device

AviD

12:08

@Flyk right, thats what I'm saying. I'm insinuating that you DID, and this lock mechanism is a flimsy excuse.

Flyk

@AviD your insinuation failed

AviD

GAWWWD! Do I have to explain every insult to you now?

what are you, @Simon??

Rory Alsop

@AviD that's a good one

Flyk

@AviD yes, the act of forcing you to explain it invalidates any funniness that could have occurred

AviD

@Flyk you're an invalidated funniness.

Flyk

12:10

I don't claim to be funny, so shrug

I wonder if I could get SE to delete my chat account

AviD

no, but I DO claim to be working on that report. So....

Flyk

then I could recreate a new one, and just be me

without any of the history

AviD

@Flyk I could do that for you

Flyk

@AviD no I mean a deletion without data anonymization

AviD

@Flyk you already did that, with @Simon.

Flyk

12:11

like... gone

Terry Chia

@Nוnɛfוngɛrϛ No, we've established that she's Taylor Swift.

AviD

@Flyk "destroy user"

Flyk

No doubt they'd be less than enthusiastic about removing all the messages of one of the most active users on chat

AviD

@TerryChia thats why it would be funny if she was grugq.

Flyk

@TerryChia if I told you that I am not Taylor Swift, would you believe me?

Rory Alsop

12:13

@Flyk but - is that useful? Would you come back in here and chat with us? If so, at some point we'd figure out that newname69 is actually kalina and then we'd have that linkage with the history

Terry Chia

@Flyk No.

AviD

@RoryAlsop not if she kills us all first.

Flyk

@RoryAlsop if there was no history, I could return and it wouldn't matter what name I used

Rory Alsop

@AviD well...that is true

Flyk

sure, you would all know

AviD

12:13

kill off the whole DMZ, get a new crowd.

Flyk

because you'd have nothing to link

Rory Alsop

@Flyk but that isn't - I'm thinking Wayback machine etc

AviD

Kill one Rory, two more shall take it's place.

2

Flyk

@RoryAlsop does wayback machine store chat?

Rory Alsop

Anything once on t'interwebs is always on t'interwebs

Flyk

12:14

@RoryAlsop this isn't actually completely true

Rory Alsop

@Flyk dunno - quick assumption that it or similar will though

Flyk

wayback machine struggles a bit with certain forums

M'vy

The first breach cost you an arm, literally

AviD

huh. actually, is that what happened with the previous iteration?

Flyk

for example

Rory Alsop

12:14

@Flyk I know - but generally speaking it's the best approach. Assume all your mistakes/information etc will be there forever

Flyk

the site I came from before arriving at SE, isn't in the wayback machine

like the front page is

but that's it

@RoryAlsop this is basically the reason I haven't told you who I am

it's less about knowing who I am and more about linking who I am to who I have been

Rory Alsop

@Flyk www.desmoinestruckers.com/home

AviD

@Flyk it's okay, we all know.

Flyk

@AviD now I'm lying on the cold hard ground :/

Rory Alsop

@Flyk that sounds familiar

Terry Chia

12:17

@RoryAlsop Lyrics from one of @Flyk's songs.

Rory Alsop

@TerryChia hahahahaha - had to google it

AviD

Flyk

sigh

Arperum

@Flyk True, but that generally doesn't happen on accident.

Flyk

@Arperum lack of vocal tone transmitted with the text means you missed the deadpan delivery

and the rolling of eyes

and the cheeky little smirk

Arperum

12:22

@Flyk The chance that I would've missed it when I heard it in person is seriously above zero too. I am terrible at noticing such things.

Flyk

I am actually slightly insulted that you think I'm a blonde

Rory Alsop

@Flyk hair colour is transient. While some of my friends are sometimes blonde I don't have hair colour as a descriptor for any of them

AviD

@RoryAlsop ymean "hair is transient"

Rory Alsop

@AviD lol

AviD

and that just means you're not a "colorist"

shuddup. damn grammarists.

Rory Alsop

12:24

Similarly if someone asked about a friend's description, I wouldn't say they have long hair, blonde hair etc. Because it changes too rapidly and unpredictably

AviD

@RoryAlsop that depends on the friends.

Rory Alsop

@AviD s/colorist/colourist

AviD

for that matter, gender, facial hair, belt size, and even cup size are changeable.

Rory Alsop

@AviD Although I have one friend with a massive mohawk. The colours change regularly, so I wouldn't say - the dude with the green mohawk - but he has had it for years so I may point over the crowd and say - HIM!

@AviD but not rapidly

(usually)

Nוnɛfוngɛrϛ

It sounds like all your friends are Jason Bourne.

AviD

12:26

@RoryAlsop could be just a simple operation. One day of surgery, go home and rest.

Rory Alsop

@AviD ... usually ...

AviD

@Nוnɛfוngɛrϛ I have the eye trick thing he does, as does one of my daughters.

Rory Alsop

@AviD what does he do?

I may have seen half the first Bourne film. Can't remember - was distracted

Flyk

@RoryAlsop even when I have blonde and blue hair, I still call myself a brunette

Rory Alsop

Couldn't be bothered watching the others

AviD

12:28

@RoryAlsop his eye colour changes naturally according to e.g. his clothes. It's a subtle, yet effective (according to the books) affect that helps disguise him.

Rory Alsop

@Flyk just to confuse folks

Flyk

@RoryAlsop "No, seriously, look at my roots... look at my eyebrows..."

Rory Alsop

@AviD My youngest has various eye colours. Not predictable as far as we can tell

@Flyk ahem - :-)

Flyk

@RoryAlsop "I don't have any hair there... -.-"

Terry Chia

Half the people in this room are old fogeys with white hair anyway. /cc @AviD, @RoryAlsop, @RоryMcCune

Flyk

12:31

or no hair @AviD

Rоry McCune

@TerryChia hey hey hey silver.. it's distinguished

Rory Alsop

@Flyk -.- indeed

@TerryChia I have no white hair, and judging by my grandparents and parents, I will have dark brown hair forever

Terry Chia

@RoryAlsop You are a couple of thousand years old, I'm sure you use copious amounts of hair dye. ;)

Flyk

I want to invent something

I totally need other people's assistance because it's out of my league

Rory Alsop

@Flyk go on - invent something fun

ahh

Terry Chia

12:34

@Flyk A method to get rid of @Simon? Please say a method to get rid of @Simon.

Rory Alsop

inventing assistance?

Flyk

I want to invent a hairbrush that colors your hair with a temporary dye, that washes out

Rory Alsop

@Flyk interesting

Flyk

yes, I thought so too

I figured it would be a cartridge loading deal where the color inserts into the handle

Rory Alsop

@Flyk I'd buy one, potentially

Flyk

12:35

but that's basically as far as I got with the actual "how it works"

Rory Alsop

once my hair grows longer again

Flyk

so maybe some system where you hold a button and it vaporizes whatever is in the cartridge and releases it through the brush tips itself

AviD

@TerryChia @RoryAlsop invented hair dye

Flyk

you wouldn't be able to go from black to blonde

but you would be able to add blue tips pretty easily

and when the button isn't being pressed, it's just a brush

Rory Alsop

@Flyk that always was awkward. I used to just dip the ends of my hair in a mix of hydrogen peroxide and ammonium hydroxide, and then when they went white (about 25 seconds) I'd rinse and dip them in purple, blue or whatever

Flyk

12:38

@RoryAlsop after the blatant murder on my hair last year, I've been using temporary colors

Rory Alsop

@Flyk I've not coloured mine since May 2001

As I joined EY in April 2001

Flyk

I'm never going that long without coloring

Rory Alsop

well, my hair length has varied between 3mm and 40mm since then

Flyk

ideally, I'd like to be able to temporarily execute a rainbow dash hair do without hours at the salon and months of dead hair

Rory Alsop

hence my stage hair/dreadlocks

@Flyk I knew that was the reason

Flyk

12:40

that is basically the thick and thin of it

raz

@Flyk Wig?

Flyk

@raz no

nothing beats it being your own hair

I wouldn't give up the repeated "what the... fuck... what..." moment I seem to experience the day after I've had my hair dyed like that

as I pass the mirror and look like I've been hit by a rainbow

Arperum

@Flyk I'd buy that.

Flyk

then a hurricane

then a rainbow

right so now I suppose I'd best get a team of people designing this thing, since in my friendliness I have discussed an potentially profitable idea in public

can't patent without a design

Arperum

I want to color my hair in some kind of green or blue, but I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be accepted when I arrive like that at work. Especially since I'm looking for a new job. I'm generally special enough already.

Rory Alsop

12:45

@Arperum I just about get away with my piercings and tattoos...

Arperum

Heck, I actually had a job refused being I'm not enough of a consultant.

@RoryAlsop None of these yet, I do want a tattoo, on my back, so not an issue for work.

Rory Alsop

@Arperum It was actually easier when I was a consultant. Now I'm a permie I get frowned at more

Arperum

@RoryAlsop I also run around in bandshirts all day long. I literally don't own normal no-print t-shirts or anything less casual.

+ beard + long hair + loud = not good.

Rory Alsop

@Arperum Friday is our dress down day. I wear band t-shirts and stack exchange t-shirts

Nוnɛfוngɛrϛ

@RoryAlsop When I was younger I lived in a fairytale world where jobs were all about merit and hard working people got on in life...

AviD

12:48

@RoryAlsop WTH do you wear the rest of the week??

Rory Alsop

@AviD standard corporate wear

a suit

only scruffier

Flyk

@Arperum I used to purposely push the boundaries of acceptable

AviD

@RoryAlsop I'm sorry I dont understand

Flyk

bubbly Q&A tester with pink hair

you know it makes sense

Rory Alsop

@Flyk would not be a strike out in my opinion

Flyk

12:49

management hated me entering the development office because I was too energetic

Arperum

@Flyk I'd do it if I wasn't looking for a new job.

Rory Alsop

@AviD stoppit

Flyk

burst through the doors into the development office

AviD

@Arperum no, you're not. You're only special in your imagination.

Rory Alsop

I can wear a suit. As long as I don't need to wear a tie. And I can wear cheap suits

AviD

12:50

@RoryAlsop heh

Flyk

HEY EVERYBODY HOW MANY BUGS HAVE YOU IMPLEMENTED TODAY?! :D

Rory Alsop

@Flyk Yay! \o/

Arperum

@AviD You're forgetting all these people who meet me.

@Flyk 27!

AviD

hey, I dont knock the suit. I have several. I enjoy wearing them. I just dont associate that necessarily with work.

@Arperum no, no I am not.

Arperum

@AviD I don't like suits.

Terry Chia

12:51

@AviD Kinky.

Flyk

@RoryAlsop before that, I was helpdesk trainee with a differing hair color every few weeks

AviD

@Arperum you'll grow up, eventually.

Rory Alsop

@AviD I prefer wearing a kilt. Or my stage gear. Or jeans and a band shirt. Or anything other than a suit

@Flyk standard :-)

Arperum

@AviD Heh. Keep dreaming.

AviD

@RoryAlsop or a kiltsuit.

Rory Alsop

12:52

@AviD hmmmm - not so much.

Flyk

I've had pink, green (like, acidic ravey green), blonde and blue, blonde and red, red, black, blue, black and blue, blue and pink, black and white

AviD

@RoryAlsop oh cmon that would be sooo awesome!

Flyk

and rainbow

Lucas 'Paul' Kauffman

@RoryAlsop tailored suits with soft material on the inside, it's amazing ^^

Flyk

I've only ever turned up to a professional place of work with rainbow colored hair once

and that was my last day working there

Arperum

12:53

I don't like suits because I feel so locked up in the blasted things, I can't move or breathe properly.

Terry Chia

@Lucas'Paul'Kauffman Someone has high ambitions. ;)

Rory Alsop

@Flyk I don't think I'e had rainbow. But I used to love the excuse of charity fundraisers - "Yeah, I'll dye my hair for a week - for charity"

AviD

@Arperum even suits have zippers in the front.

Rory Alsop

@Arperum I buy mine at Asda - they don't constrict too much, and when they die I get a new one

Arperum

@AviD Doesn't reduce the locked in feeling I have on my shoulders and back.

Rory Alsop

12:54

Actually, they live well. My shortest lived suits have been Boss and other posh brands

AviD

@Arperum oh didnt think we were talking about your back.

Rory Alsop

@AviD heh

Lucas 'Paul' Kauffman

@TerryChia It's nice and wasn't' that expensive considering it was tailored (got it in SG)

AviD

my main problem with wearing suits is the heat. even in shirtsleeves I'm on the verge of sweating through everything. Even in the winter everybody has their heat cranked up. as if it gets actually cold very often.

thats why I like my A/C cranked up and pointed straight down at me.

Arperum

@AviD I ...

Lucas 'Paul' Kauffman

12:57

@AviD yea, that's something I was also wondering about, how do you wear suits in hummid 30°C+ weather?

AviD

@RoryAlsop Boss is posh?

@Lucas'Paul'Kauffman I don't.

well, not anymore.

Lucas 'Paul' Kauffman

@AviD I guess there should be lighter fabrics so you can have like a "summer suit"

Arperum

@RoryAlsop Asda is slightly out of the country for me.

AviD

@Lucas'Paul'Kauffman yeah, thats what I would wear in the winter.

Terry Chia

Not having to wear a suit is a non-negotiable condition for any of my future jobs. :)

Guess that rules out anything Big 4.

AviD

12:59

@TerryChia yeah, anything outside of Big Corporate thats usually a non-issue for hitech.

@TerryChia Big4, Big Banks, etc etc.

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