I just thought it would be fun to turn up, win at hats, and then disappear again until next year

something trivial and mundane, where I don't have to make huge decisions every day

I'm going back to bed

@kalina huh whut? I was referring to the fact that information is an addictive substance nothing to do with hats..

@kalina Look, I'm sorry if I've been too harsh about the whole leaving thing. But especially with the last few months, I'm rather irritated by the fact that this is now the only place I can hope to catch you at all. What with how I'd rather not be here in the first place.

> NEED. MOAR. INFOOOO

hmm. actually that was "INPUUUUT".

@AviD yeah like at the moment I'd love to know how passwords in ODC file connection strings are encoded/encrypted

@RоryMcCune odc?

yknow, if only there were some site where you could ask your questions...

@AviD Office data connection. Connects Excel to MS typed analytics services

@RоryMcCune ahhh.

embeds a password in the connection string in the file

which is interesting

was curious about whether it was the main users password in some way encoded.

so, now that I have my gaming vm working.... DOTA2, any good?

@kalina any other low-budget recommendations?

by "low-budget" I mean "free", since I'm an unemployed bum I'm skint.

@user98085 yay - very pink! Took a while for my cache to update.

lol

I'm currently saving my pennies for the next steam sale

@user98085 are we that bad? :-(

Tho by then I won't be an unemployed bum, hopefully

@RоryMcCune ask it

@user98085: IM, email. carrier snail....

on a site

somewhere

@RoryAlsop It's not you, it's the rest of the damned network. Not much to keep me here.

@AviD don't even know what it stands for. But Destiny is good

@RoryAlsop I did think about that but it's more a product question than a security question, so I thought some evil mods might shut me down if I put it on the wrong site (the grinches!)

@user98085 boo hoo, I'm so sorry that somebody on the internet disagreed with you and that you took it so personally. I'm sorry that me doing my thing gets in the way of sitting around chatting on the internet. I don't want to fall out or for you to be angry.

@RoryAlsop: not free and console tho ;p

@user98085 what about all the drama? you've got to love the drama.

@RоryMcCune Grr - them mods

@JourneymanGeek I have it on PS3

OH

think it was cheap

actually - maybe Hamish bought it

@AviD The drama is why I'm leaving in the first place.

@AviD: Path of exile if you like diablo-alikes.

so it was free

:-)

I do think it's a little self centered that you think you're the person losing out here, when in fact I have made many sacrifices to achieve what I'm trying to achieve

@RоryMcCune no, thats not a "how do in a product" or even "some niche product that nobody ever heard of"

@user98085 but you love the drama! you brought it with you!

@RoryAlsop cool, thanks

@RоryMcCune If the question is 'how is the password encoded in the connection string?' then I think that is a perfectly reasonable question

@RoryAlsop there's only one game I really want to be finished up work for the year for.... Elite Dangerous! I've heard a rumour that Santa is bringing me a new PC so that'll be my 26th Dec entertainment sorted

@kalina That's not what I'm saying. I've been asking you to figure something out that's convenient for you for quite a while - because I know you're the one who has the tighter situation here.

@RoryAlsop cool :)

@RоryMcCune it's brilliant - santa isn't likely to bring me an oculus rift though

@JourneymanGeek cool cool, thanks

And I need to update my joysticks

(not starbait there at all)

@kalina drama? is what you're trying to achieve, "drama"? I bet it's drama.

@AviD: and oh. I have a copy of terraria spare, if you have stream

@RoryAlsop no, me neither, so I'll need to settle for the 27". I've got a HOTAS style joystick though so all good on that front.

@user98085 why does it always come back to that? Have you not considered that meeting up with somebody off the internet for casual conversation is quite far down my list of priorities when you consider some of the other things on said list of priorities?

I am so sorry that I have not acted in a timely manner to your demand to meet up

@RоryMcCune There's many ladies out there who would be overjoyed to have 27" ;p

@RоryMcCune which one did you get? I think you did tell me but I can't remember

@JourneymanGeek thanks, have stream, never heard of that game though

@JourneymanGeek I have a feeling that joy would vanish once they came across it...

@kalina I didn't even mean that, for god's sake. I mean simple communication. You want to avoid Steam, so what should we do about it?

@AviD it seems like a 2D Minecraft knockoff

@AviD: its a bit like 2d minecraft.

preeeeety much

hehehe

@RoryAlsop amazon.co.uk/gp/product/… 'cause it wasn't too pricey and got decent reviews

@RоryMcCune cool - thanks. I might just get that as a self-present from Santa

I haven't actually played it. I got a 4 pack cheap, tried it a while, and got distracted by the rest of my pile.

> "ThrustMaster"

@AviD why am I not surprised that you'd pick up on that :op

funny, @kalina is buying one of those, but from a different department

it does look similar though

Oh - I did get myself a present.Just need to figure out how to get it transported to me: a 7 string BC Rich Warlock - to replace my 6 string BC Rich Warlock as my pyro guitar

@RoryAlsop yep I've got 100CR and a Cobra mark III at Lave station to start from in the main game :) will be fun

@RoryAlsop all the cool kids are playing 9 strings by now

Do they still make force feedback joysticks, or is that a noughty thing?

@RоryMcCune would you rather I would have commented on your "HotAssX" ??

@JourneymanGeek yea I think so

Ahh

(though I had a vibrating mouse. Actually managed to pull it out and get it working on an XP system)

@RоryMcCune you play FSX?

@RоryMcCune and the Q&A there.... its like somebody was doing it on purpose!

@LucasKauffman what's FSX?

@AviD I can't

I tried

> Yes it does twist, you can use the paddle on the throttle too,

@RоryMcCune Flight Simulator

@RoryAlsop ha, congrats!

@LucasKauffman ahh no, just Elite:Dangerous :)

@RоryMcCune Ha I got that too

@LucasKauffman just waiting to have some free time and that's my plan...

@RоryMcCune +1 need to study as well :(

@user98085 I don't think you're getting it - you think I've been "avoiding you" for the last year or whatever, I have basically not been on the internet for the entire time.

@kalina it was about a year wasn't it - jeez

ladeez be busy, ladeez got bizness

and after I finish collecting hats, it will be another year

betta' get wit' da plan

I'm thinking I should not bother with hats and just get back to it

no no, stay, we are all loving the drama.

@kalina No, I don't think you've been avoiding me. It's not about finding time to talk. It's just about having any means of talking at all. Because between you not using Steam any more and me quitting SE, we're lacking that. And I've been asking you to come up with ideas because I know that you're busy, and that's why it needs to be convenient for you.

okay, new DMZ contest!

lets see who can mess with the warring lubbirds the most.

bad advice, uncomfortable comments, embarrassing secrets - it's all open game!

winner gets a secret hat!

oh crap, I just ensured that @kalina will self-destruct

@AviD are you one of those people who has to touch the fire before you realise it's hot?

@kalina no, I'm the guy that sees a fire, and shows up with hotdogs and marshmallows on a stick.

@AviD actually you can't really deliver on that promise

of course I can.

the hat is a secret.

OK so this is the DMZ equivalent of Embarrassing Bodies? How quaint! :)

"quaint"... this drama has basically made my top 10 worst moments of 2014

I was trying to be sarcastic, damnit!

you fail at sarcasm

and life

and everything...

So? Wanna help?

sure, why not

already been called a whore today

might as well live up to expectations

@kalina not by me

whos going starwild?

@kalina I was not being serious. I'm sorry if it came across like that.

@AviD someone that wants the "star 8 people in chat" hat

@Noordung hasn't everyone got that

apparently not

but hey we're mods we can always stage a DDoS (Distributed Denial of Stars)

hello

@kalina Look, I apologize for bringing all this up. I shouldn't have.

well you did

@Stefan hello

@user98085 you know you guys can get a private room, thus avoiding all this heckling

there's no such thing as a private room

besides, I'm not leaving any of the main rooms, whenever I have my own room on SE I get banned or threatened with being banned for one reason or another

Wait, don't you need an account on the parent site to get the Sumo Judge? :P

@kalina I know. I'm not gonna try justifying it.

@kalina you know what I mean - sure, anyone could look - I was meaning more for the relatively noise-free environment it would bring

@Noordung dunno

@RoryAlsop he wanted to do it in public, if I went off into a private room to have this conversation after it started in public, you'd all end up looking out of curiosity anyway

well I'd think so because the hats show where you got them ... surely if you don't even have an account on that site you can't get the hat, no?

@kalina oh, I dont think so. Reeeeheeeelly not

anyway, I'm bored of this conversation now

not as much as the rest of us!

wow, I'm really being mean today, arent I?

meh, screw it, @kalina and @user98085, why dont you just go watch Twilight together.

hallo hallo hallo hallo hallo

can someone tell me what mariaDB is?

Hmmm, I can't sorry

@Stefan open source fork of mysql

@Stefan I bet its a hipstery NoSQL non-database. But its web-scale.

did I say open source

I meant non-Oracle controlled

because Open Source doesn't mean shit anymore

xD

wow @kalina you're on a roll!

Thanks!

:D

Can someone look at this question? stackoverflow.com/questions/27523799/…

@AviD your sarcasm wounds me

@kalina actually, for a change, that was not sarcastic at all, but genuinely appreciative.

'course, you can be excused for not being able to tell the difference, that's on me.

well you know what they say

if you throw enough random over generalised statements out there, eventually one of them will actually be legit

@Stefan uhh, I think this is the wrong room for that

@Stefan: It was posted 3 minutes ago.

oh

sorry then

@Stefan it's a nasty question, needs more punctuation and formatting

allright

@Stefan There are StackOverflow chat rooms. This room is for Security (not that you can tell this morning)

@M Zeinstra alles goed?

@RoryAlsop Can you ever?

@Stefan No spaces in pings, these do not ping people.

@Stefan Jahoor :D

@A r p e r u m why not? :(

StackOverflow is about building tall stacks without them overflowing

@Stefan Because that's how the system works.

InfoSec is about playing Jenga with those stacks until they fall over, and then pointing at the stack builder and laughing

The question is now really nice! stackoverflow.com/questions/27523799/…

@kalina Wait, I thought InfoSec was about stopping people from playing Jenga with your stack?

Jenga?

whats up with jenga

@Arperum no, that's pretty much the role of a network admin but with two stacks, one for software and one for hardware

@Stefan Why are you pushing it so hard? What reason do you have for ramming that question through our throat?

I take offence to people ramming things down my throat

@kalina Nah, that guy has to hold the software stack and try to place it on top of the hardware stack, while both stacks are actively being modified non stop.

What is a 'anonymous account' ?