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14:00
Welp, I'm done hatting for today.
maybe just don't wear a hat?
@RoryAlsop how the hell did you get that already? its Dec.15!
@TerryChia no, you could upvote and downvote me on gaming for hat
thanks in exchange for infosec votes
heh, was gonn' say about the TL,,..
good job I screenshotted it
14:01
@kalina Done.
now I have eternal proof to use against a @Rory
I GOT A SEKRET HAT
@AviD I somehow assumed it would only show for mods
d'oh
@Simon yay - which one
@RoryAlsop "Fascinating"
@Simon have you seen @AviD's one
TWSS
inB4
14:06
@RoryAlsop What a damn donut.
@RoryAlsop dammit man! hahaha
@RoryAlsop youre wearing the same one, no?
Yes he is.
@AviD I am now, yes
I plan on cycling through them at random for the next couple of weeks :-)
just to amuse myself
with hats
dabear is so boring that he doesn't wear any hat.
@Simon bears don't wear hats, silly
oh, except Paddington
14:08
Do bears do cryptographt YOU DONUT?
Not fixing the typo.
@Simon well, obviously
@RoryAlsop and what about George? He kept trying to put on the Yellow Hat.
@AviD lol
just don't google bears in hats
trust me
now you know I have to
I have a hat on
it fits perfectly
14:13
user image
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@RoryAlsop OH THE HORROR!!
THE URSINATY!
@AviD different result to what I got on my phone
very different
@ScottPack would have been proud
@RoryAlsop well, google does tailor results to your previous history....
@kalina It also makes you look like a damn turtle.
One more upvote gets me a hat, please and thank you. :-)
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A: Authentication: Username (email) and password hashed together in one database field

XanderAs far as I can tell, this scheme doesn't make any sense. As you've noted, you still need to store the plaintext email address for the user, so there isn't any significant security benefit to using the plaintext email and email + password + salt hash vs just using plaintext email and password + ...

14:14
@Xander Done, upvote this please? security.stackexchange.com/questions/40564/…
@Simon Done.
@RoryAlsop I think its best I leave this mess for you to clean up.
@Xander Cheers.
and I DON'T mean the bears!!
One of the secret hat is to upvote every single of @AviD's answers.
14:16
you think you can bribe me to support this farce?
and without donuts?? You fool!
if you guys have accounts on gaming you could give me some votes on this for necro badge
@kalina done
the answer is correct, it even has a semi official source
because I'm that awesome.
@Simon I don't care if you hate me, I even gave you upvotes when you asked
@Lighty @kalina yeah @Lighty is happy to jump on anything with a necrophila theme.
facedesk
14:19
@AviD heh
@kalina aaaawww
I have 16.6% of all Necromancer badges on Sec.SE.
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@Simon you feel rotten now don't you
@RоryMcCune Well, that might be because of this fart that smells like death.
@Simon TMI
14:21
boys...
boiz b boiz
two more votes until silver badgez
badgers
@ThomasPornin I'll be in QC city around Christmas, you better arm your alarm system.
@kalina silver badger ? This looks like a Ubuntu distribution name.
no, Ubuntu has that silly thing with both words starting with same letter
14:23
@AviD errr.... EW
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@ThomasPornin Now that is a stat to be proud of, I think. Questions which only a bear could answer :-)
I think I have only 1
I think my only vaguely rare badge is "beta"
which (absent time travel or more likely hacking) ain't getting any new holders
@RоryMcCune nice hat!
werewolf?
@RoryAlsop werewolf hunter indeed
dammit - one more upvote needed: security.stackexchange.com/a/58217/485
14:27
@RoryAlsop I see you have the very appropriate frog one :)
I need just two more votes
@RоryMcCune Chameleon, apparently
@RoryAlsop sorry already upvoted that one..
@RоryMcCune "Populist" is not very common either.
@kalina Everyone used up all their votes early this morning,
14:27
@RoryAlsop on gaming
I have no content to vote on here
I've already used all my votes on here though
@ThomasPornin ohyeah, cool :)
@kalina oh - I upvoted that post :-)
\o/
I'm a werewolf hunter!
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@AviD - you may like this:
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Q: Can we have much more complex 2015 Winterbash hats

Rory AlsopWe are only a few hours into Winterbash, and already almost all the secret hats have been found and understood. This is all very well, but it leads to a very rapid spike of posts and votes (not necessarily useful ones) to copy them. As they are all explained at the end of Winterbash anyway, I'd...

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14:36
@RoryAlsop +1
@RoryAlsop dat downvote though
@RoryAlsop you should put the frog attached to his antenna thingy
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@AviD cheers
the google glass attachment
@AviD good idea
hang on
14:38
Bobba Glass
@AviD Boba Tech - I think I called him
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15:38
@AviD How SFW is that vid?
15:50
@Iszi not a vid, its a cracked article.
so, very nsfw, but mostly just text.
So - I obviously fail at twitter. I thought tweeting about this would get me my final upvote on the answer, but no...security.stackexchange.com/a/58217/485
downvoting....
spite is fun!
@AviD pffft
(liar)
if spite was a form of renewable energy, the earth would have infinite power while I remain alive
@AviD lying is fun!
16:01
lying out of spite is fun!
@kalina 's spite station
providing enough power to save the earth
ironic
:-)
By spite, you guys mean donut, right?
bloody hell, end-of-year tax season is such a bugger.
@Simon donut station
@AviD yes. Definitely.
that is one thing that you DO know how it will feel up your butt. And it's not pleasant.
16:03
choo choo all aboard on the donut station choo choo
@AviD and that is how the tax office likes you
@RoryAlsop because my earnings were above their expectations, I just had to preemptively pay 6K$. And thats (local equivalent of) social security, not even the income tax yet.
:@:@:@
:@
@AviD aye - our HMRC does exactly the same thing. And all errors are your fault, even when they are HMRC's fault
@AviD that makes the sound "RAAARRRGH!"
@RoryAlsop right. so I paid preemptively, on the recommendation of my accountant, so that at least I wouldnt have to pay interest on the fines they will hit me with retroactively next week 6 months from now.
@RoryAlsop pretty much, yeah.
16:11
@AviD WHY is your head on a platform, instead of you wearing a hat?
@Lighty wot?
methinks you be needing to look closely
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A: Is it possible the person sitting across from me at Starbucks was trying to hack my laptop?

PiTheNumberNo, you are just being paranoid. You were probably already connected to him over WiFi. There are many attacks he could have run this way without additional devices. Also if he would have wanted to hack you, he would not have thrown his strange hacking device in your face. He would have hidden it...

Should we edit out the last part of the answer?
The made-up percentage are unnecessary imo.
@Simon 68% of all statistics are made up on the spot
16:23
@Simon well, to be fair, 73% of all statistics are made up on the spot.
dammit!
Unless it's @ThomasPornin, then we know it isn't.
Hehe, I'm the one who usually says that :p
@DavidFreitag ever since ninja day I have been ninjad all over the place
@AviD Ninja day? No... I think your age is just catching up to you. All that hipster is taking its toll.
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@DavidFreitag nonohipster!
huh, might be the sick. still not quite over the sick.
but that might be because of old.
16:25
I haven't been properly sick in years
@DavidFreitag Someone loves to jinx himself.
@Simon Don't worry, I knocked on wood.
Phew.
YES!
So it turns out nine hours worth of work was not lost.
damn the thickness of the euphemisms here is getting ridiculous.
16:28
So is the thickness of my D.
one molecule wide
@kalina One neutrino wide
as usual, you take things so far they cease being funny
mean
So the final exam for my differential equations class wasn't nearly as brutal as I was expecting. I would've finished in a half hour, but I still can't do integrals to save my life.
16:38
Integrals, mmmmm. Gud times.
@DavidFreitag no one needs to do that by hand
TWSS
Specifically the integral of e^t^4 * 4t^3
@DavidFreitag I wanted to murder the teacher when I saw those.
@Simon Normally I can just punch it into my Nspire, but this lady banned anything above a TI-84
16:40
Did she ban Wolfram Alpha?
During exams? Uhh... yeah...? Unless you got that new chip that allows you to surf the net when you close your eyes.
@DavidFreitag cybernetics integrated into my spine
so that I could play EVE and still have a life
@kalina You have a life? Man I wish I had one of those...
I do
I'm jelly.
16:43
@DavidFreitag Don't feed her.
I like jelly
@Simon after midnight?
I turn into a gremlin after midnight regardless of food
@AviD Yeah, otherwise you become fat like me (140 pounds)
nobody could be fat like you
even the Michelin man
16:44
wow, really? that went over your underaged head?
@AviD I got it!
c'mon give me a gold star for getting something that's older than me
@kalina well of course YOU did.
@AviD I got it too.
16:44
you're intelligent.
I was so in the middle of typing "and what exactly is that supposed to mean?"
Do I have to say that I didn't get it?
@kalina its only 20 years old....
@AviD uhuh
oh man, 30?
THIRTY??
owww owww owww
16:46
I was going to say something about the water reaction
Hehehe, you're old.
Once, @AviD realized he's old.
@AviD lol you did that to yourself you know
and I started the sentence as "getting me wet also results in gremlin like madness"
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@DavidFreitag hehe, you're a poor student.
;-)
16:46
-.-
wait, was that too mean?
@AviD Poor as in broke or poor as in I'm dumb? Perhaps both...
@kalina haha, nice. want to work something about light into that?
At any rate, I don't pay tuition, so I'm not living in a cardboard box.
@DavidFreitag STOP DEGRADING YOURSELF, THAT'S MY JOB.
16:49
@AviD No, it's alright. I know how cranky you get without your mid day nap.
@DavidFreitag true. I'm looking forward to my evening nap now.
@Simon you have a job degrading yourself? Why am I not surprised?
@AviD Because you see yourself in me.
I don't understand napping. Of course that could just be because I sleep for 18 hours at a time...
@Simon ...TWSS...?
@AviD hm?
16:52
sunlight
LOOK AT MA HORSE
MA HORSE IS AMAZING
GIVE IT A LYK
sunlight? I don't like sunlight... I'm a creature of the night
@DavidFreitag e^(t^4)
ma name is le bear i do le maths for le fun cuz le nurd
Excuse my poor grammar, it should have been "l'bear".
16:55
too much "the"
God donut, markdown broke that link.
I prefer markwahlberg.
This just in: @Simon would ride Mark Wahlberg if the offer was made.
wat
oh Marky Mark, what is that?
It's just a good vibration!
I'll get my coat
16:57
Keep your fantasies for yourself.
he's way too old for me
That's what they all say.
I draw the line at +/-30% of my age
@kalina isn't the official formula (1/2 your age) + 7 as the lower limit
as if you've ever known me to do what everybody else does
shame on you
16:59
@RоryMcCune That means @Simon can date a 7 year old? That's messed up.
WOOHOO
wat
raz
raz
@Simon is zero years old?
@DavidFreitag what @raz said
Ok, fine 7 and a few months.
Wait, how old am I now?
17:01
@Simon the pi-th root of pi.
Over 9000?
@DavidFreitag I think he's more of a doughnut man
HALF DONUT, HALF MAN, HE'S THE SAVIOR OF THE SUN
@RоryMcCune I think the root of a donut is an imaginary number.
I'm too lazy to get wolfram to take the pi-th root of pi.
17:20
Ok. I got a secret hat. How'd I get the secret hat?
@Iszi It's a secret you donut.
My ex-dad is slow, I'm glad that I got rid of him.
17:40
@AviD Oooh, apparently they're finally putting our proxy to use.
18:02
@Simon Well, I found out its secret. So there.
He's slow and a liar, dayum.
@kalina Sounds familliar
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18:24
evening all
So, @kalina is winning winterbash in Sec.SE
with me second and @TerryChia third
ahh - I have figured it out
ignore me - I was looking at the overall leaderboard
raz
raz
I was going for the Gold Badge for 100 consecutive days visited. I was at 92, didn't get a chance to login on Saturday sigh
@raz That sucks. I had the same thing happen to me at around day 75. Not quite as bad, but I still know the feeling.
raz
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Also, how is the term "air gap" ambiguous?
@Iszi - It tends only to be remote desktop or citrix that is allowed through. Also, while I tend to agree with your definition of "air gap" not everyone does. — paj28 1 hour ago
@raz And you'll get it next time. After my little mishap, I managed to log in for 517 consecutive days, before I intentionally took a day off. Then 115 after that, before I took another day off just a couple of weeks ago.
raz
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Yeah, I just got distracted by a brand new TV so I wasn't doing anything on my laptop.
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18:37
@RoryAlsop u suk
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Q: Torrent "bad seed" attack by Sony, how does it work?

DanielSony recently saw a large amount of data stolen. In order to prevent the stolen data from being spread using torrents, they are doing what was called a bad seed attack. What is this attack? Is this a known attack or some term they coined for what is happening in this specific case? Here's an exc...

Does anyone know anything about this?
raz
raz
Yeah
Seeds use hashes to tie everything together. This is a fake seed with a fake hash that matches the torrent for the stolen data being spread.
The idea would be to corrupt the downloads.
At least that's the impression that I get.
You're an impression.
@Simon Your face is an impression
@Lighty LEAVE ME ALONE
@Simon NO, LOVE ME
18:48
wat
19:09
Well, that escalated quickly.
As late as I am, I jsut read that the sidney hostage situation from today has ended
I commented "Counter-Terrorists Win"
too soon?
Yeah, too soon to misspell something SO SIMPLE YOU DAMN DONUT.
@Simon The pot calling the kettle black..
wat
It's spelled doughnut you donut.
19:11
You fake American, get out of here.
raz
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@Lighty Your mom's face is an impression
@Simon What, so only American's are allowed in here?
@raz U W0T M8
@DavidFreitag Fake Americans and fake Dutchies are not allowed.
@Simon what about fake canadians?
19:13
@Simon I never said I was American. I do, however, live in America.
@RоryMcCune There's no such thing as a fake Canadian.
@Simon hmmm you've told several people to "get out" in an abrupt manner without saying you're sorry... sounds like a fake canadian to me
You also never say eh, eh.
I'M GONNA STUFF DONUTS IN MULTIPLE BUTTHOLES
19:17
That was a bit too far past the line, even for you.
You're a you.
I wouldn't want to be anything other than me.
Accept maybe bacon. For obvious reasons.
Accept?
YOU DONUT.
20:07
@Simon ACCEPT BACON
ALL YOUR BACON ARE BELONG TO US
I could swear I've seen mention that newer versions of PsExec don't send passwords in the clear, but I can't find it now. Anyone know when that started - link for reference?
@Simon God donut. I always make that mistake.
@TildalWave - I saw you tried to help, but that was going to attract all the usual scum and dross
Does anyone think this might fit somewhere? I don't want to migrate it if it will just get rejected, but it's getting no love here.
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Q: Roboo HTTP bot mitigation vs alternatives (senginx, possible others)?

Dmitri DBI've been tasked with working out a bot mitigation facility here. So far this seems to be what pops up in google for "HTTP Bot mitigation": https://github.com/yuri-gushin/Roboo I've been perusing this as an option, but I want to know if there's been anything that achieves the same goal but whic...

raz
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Maybe the Networking Se?
20:21
@RoryAlsop I just wanted to complete the review for the hat :)))
raz
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Network Engineering*
social networking engineering?
@raz that could work. Thanks
hadn't thought of them
raz
raz
@RoryAlsop No problem :)
@TildalWave Your face is a social networking experiment
yey! my face is social :)
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raz
raz
20:24
@TildalWave That's yet to be determined, we're still experimenting on it.
ahhh DMZ I missed it
wat
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Man @Simon you don't seem to get much around here do you?
If I had a beer for every time you said "wat" I'd die of alcohol poisoning.
I'm not entirely sure this isn't spam. It is clearly one of the worse answers ever, but also looks suspiciously like some of the better blog spam out there that tries to add non-spammy content to confuse filters.
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A: Trace facebook user ip. Is it even possible?

Jonathan MwebazePeer-to-peer (P2P) is a decentralized communications model in which each party has the same capabilities and either party can initiate a communication session. Unlike the client/server model, in which the client makes a service request and the server fulfills the request, the P2P network model al...

20:34
wat
@LucasKauffman lol
raz
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@Xander I was curious about that one too
@LucasKauffman lies, it should be English (bastardized)
raz
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@AJHenderson No that's Canada, they can't pronounce anything right.
@raz yes, but what are you going to do aboot it
20:42
I'm violent today.
raz
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I take offense to that
Flagged
You don't.
You haven't.
raz
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I did
not.
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@Xander Why was it just protected by the community?
20:44
@raz 3rd deleted answer posted by a <10-rep user
raz
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@Gilles I guess I thought protected meant that it was useful. I suppose it could be protected against nefarious acts.
I really love this song:
Thanks to whoever unsuspended.
I always miss the best bits
raz
raz
@TildalWave Sounds like her first time.
20:50
So I'm being a touch American tonight... My advent calendar has supplied me with a "Rock Town Arkansas Bourbon Whiskey"
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raz
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Couldn't afford the good Kentucky stuff huh
@RоryMcCune BLASPHEMY
raz
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Had to settle for Arkansas...
@raz you're on a roll today
@RоryMcCune the Japanese produce the best whisky apparently
20:51
@raz it'd down to what the advent calendar provides of a day :)
raz
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@RоryMcCune So are they like... open up the calendar and there's a mini bottle of whiskey in it?
Because that would be awesome.
@LucasKauffman hmm that's a trendy "whisky of the year" thing, I'll bet they feel compelled to go with more unusual stuff... not that I've got anything against japanese whisky, not tried it yet..
@raz that's exactly it, just a dram a day but still
raz
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Wow that's kinda amazing
@raz the missus got me it as a surprise present :)
@RоryMcCune honestly, I have a bottle and it can really compete with the Scottish single malts (I'm just pulling your leg, scottish original is still the best)
but they're bloody expensive
like even more expensive that Scottish single malts
20:53
@LucasKauffman yeah I'm meaning to try some in the new year, but it is pricey stuff
@RоryMcCune I've got a bottle of Taketsuru
can recommend it
@LucasKauffman nice
@RoryAlsop I'm sorry you had to see that
@Adnan
you rang?
@LucasKauffman Yup, I'll be there in 15. Free then?
20:59
sure

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