The DMZ

kalina

13:00

I am seriously seriously addicted to cake

I was feeling all sleep deprived from the weekend and then I had cake

which made me no longer sleep deprived

Lucas Kauffman

@Polynomial (u'AJ Henderson', 2), (u'Kisunminttu', 2), (u'Karthik Rangarajan', 2), (u'strugee', 2), (u'Iszi', 4), (u'Scott Pack', 6), (u'R\u043ery McCune', 6), (u'Lucas Kauffman', 6), (u'Rory Alsop', 7), (u'TildalWave', 7), (u'FEichinger', 9), (u'David Freitag', 10), (u'kalina', 17), (u'AviD', 19), (u'Terry Chia', 27), (u'Simon', 159)

Polynomial

@kalina s/cake/crack/

FEichinger

@kalina Who are you and what have you done to the real @kalina? The real @kalina would split that into "addicted to" and ten minutes later "cake!" for trolling!

kalina

@Polynomial no, crack is really bad for you

Lucas Kauffman

@kalina MDMA

kalina

13:01

I did crack once

Rory Alsop

@LucasKauffman I've got 7? THat's terribly disappointing

FEichinger

@LucasKauffman I shall now proceed to kick myself for being in that list.

kalina

well, multiple onces repeatedly over a 8 month period

@LucasKauffman I do like MDMA

Polynomial

@LucasKauffman I also wouldn't want to take any drug named Moderately Disgusting Monkey Anus

FEichinger

@Polynomial But it's only moderately disgusting!

kalina

13:02

@FEichinger I don't troll

you already sound like a moderator

Lucas Kauffman

god I love elasticsearch

FEichinger

@kalina What do you call it, then? "deception"?

Rory Alsop

@LucasKauffman when I run the search, I get 0 results for me...

kalina

@FEichinger ...?

Polynomial

@LucasKauffman Is that what morbidly obese people use to find their genitals in their sweatpants?

FEichinger

13:03

2 mins ago, by FEichinger

@kalina Who are you and what have you done to the real @kalina? The real @kalina would split that into "addicted to" and ten minutes later "cake!" for trolling!

What would you call that, if not trolling?

Lucas Kauffman

@Polynomial :O best database ever!

kalina

there could be plenty of reasons why that situation would occur

Polynomial

@FEichinger Suspense!

kalina

for example, being interrupted mid sentence

suspense

for comical purposes

FEichinger

sigh

kalina

13:04

star baiting

Polynomial

extreme asthma

Simon

@TerryChia At least I got the balls to pour a bucket of ice/water on my head and don't feel the need to make up a lame excuse instead of doing it.

Polynomial

@Simon I'd just donate money to a different charity out of spite for the stupid viral thing.

FEichinger

If you're proud about dumping the ice water on you, you're doing the challenge wrong.

Lucas Kauffman

> Nooooo - not YOLO. YOLF!
@TerryChia encrypt-tag yolo makes no sense, but hash-tag yolo does, according to @Simon
@TerryChia shuddit you! @AviD - can we kick @Terry? "HR manager" is his "#yolo"
@Simon - I didn't hear a single 'yolo' in that vid. You may need to redo it :-)
My mother in law wanted to get the kids wristbands which said yolo on them. My middle child quite rightly countered with "nonoyolo - it's the law"

Polynomial

13:06

maybe to MIND, because you're all mad for doing it.

@FEichinger The whole thing evolved a bit. The original thing was to only do it as a forfeit for not donating. Now it's a "donate a bit and do the challenge, or donate more and don't do it".

it's still stupid, imo.

Simon

Hey you donuts, by actually pouring the bucket on your head, you get to nominate 3 people which equals more donations.

Lucas Kauffman

@Polynomial if you haven't worked with Elasticsearch you should give it a go, it's incredible fast at searching text. It's built on top of Lucene and even CERN is now using it to index data from the hydroncolider.

Terry Chia

@Simon Right, because donating instead of pouring water on myself because I'm not feeling well is stupid.

Simon

@TerryChia I did both...

I was fucked up all week because of gastroenteritis and did it anyway.

Lucas Kauffman

@TerryChia Terry why you no throw ice bucket over your head?

Polynomial

13:09

@Simon Gastroenteritis == fucking awful. My condolences.

@LucasKauffman Surely in his country the ice would melt before he even picked the bucket up?

Simon

@Polynomial It was worse than the pain after my appendix surgery, it is indeed awful.

Terry Chia

@LucasKauffman Having a cold recently. Plus doing it in this weather will just make it a heck lot worse.

@Polynomial Hey, it's not that hot.

Polynomial

@Simon I got it once right as I was moving house. I couldn't even stand up. Had to get people to do most of the work for me :/

Lucas Kauffman

@TerryChia It is for European people

Polynomial

@Simon I actually slept on the floor in the new house while other people put stuff together.

Lucas Kauffman

13:11

@Polynomial poor Poly :(

Rory Alsop

@LucasKauffman ahhhhhhh - I thought your search was for the f-word. :-)

Scott Pack

@RoryAlsop Frankfort?

Lucas Kauffman

@RoryAlsop let me check for the f-word

Polynomial

@ScottPack Felching

Simon

@Polynomial Haha, yeah it sucks that much.

Lucas Kauffman

13:12

@RoryAlsop nothing

Scott Pack

@Polynomial Fungible

Rory Alsop

@LucasKauffman correct

Terry Chia

@LucasKauffman Hard to believe. :P

Polynomial

@ScottPack Fabricated.

Scott Pack

@Polynomial Fiduciary

Polynomial

13:13

ooh, good one

@ScottPack Felicitations

Scott Pack

Ooo...that one has a nice mouthfeel too.

7

Simon

wat

Terry Chia

@ScottPack TWSS

Scott Pack

@Polynomial Foraminate

Terry Chia

@LucasKauffman Do "TWSS"

FEichinger

13:14

... What the fuck?

Polynomial

@ScottPack Feckless.

Scott Pack

@Polynomial Fagin

Polynomial

@ScottPack floccinaucinihilipilification

Lucas Kauffman

@TerryChia (u'Scott Pack', 8), (u'Polynomial', 8), (u'Gilles', 10), (u'Simon', 11), (u'David Freitag', 12), (u'ManishEarth', 14), (u'Rory Alsop', 16), (u'TildalWave', 28), (u'AviD', 67), (u'Terry Chia', 76)]

Polynomial

I had to google the spelling of that one! haha

Scott Pack

13:16

@Polynomial Now you're just getting silly.

Terry Chia

@LucasKauffman Hehe. That's less than I expected.

Lucas Kauffman

@ScottPack You're face is silly.

Scott Pack

Although it was quite the followup to feckless.

@LucasKauffman Those stats actually make a lot of sense and seem to follow my expectations.

Polynomial

@ScottPack This game does certainly remind me of Mornington Crescent.

Scott Pack

@Polynomial flagellomania

Polynomial

13:18

@ScottPack fuliguline

I have no idea what purpose that word serves.

one day someone thought "hmm, I need a word for 'like a sea duck'..."

Simon

@Polynomial It sounds like a disease involving fungus.

Scott Pack

@Polynomial For what it's worth...phrontistery.info/f.html

Polynomial

@ScottPack I'm certainly not on that page shifty eyes

Well, this entire thing is rather fustian.

I'd rather be furnicular than continue.

Scott Pack

Polynomial

FWIW, it did give me a good term for @TerryChia: frigolabile

Terry Chia

13:21

@Polynomial Hehe.

Simon

#classicsmorning

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FEichinger

If #Simon's liberal usage of hashtags in SE chat ever leads to an implementation of hashtags in SE chat, I will rain hell on him.

Simon

I don't think I've ever used hashtags on twitter or FB.

AJ Henderson

@Polynomial you keep using that word, I don't think it means what you think it means

kalina

what are these dotted lines in chat?

FEichinger

13:30

@kalina Catch-up.

kalina

why do I have so many of them, surely they should only appear where you last read up to?

FEichinger

I think there should be three of them max.

AJ Henderson

@FEichinger based on how many other features we wish we had, I think we're probably safe there for a while anyway

FEichinger

@AJHenderson Considering the bot spam we had earlier, nothing is "safe".

AJ Henderson

besides, I like to hope the SE devs are smarter than Simon

FEichinger

13:31

@AJHenderson Have you seen the -2 spam?

Simon

What the fuck do any of you fucks know how smart I am?

Jesus fucking Christ.

AJ Henderson

@FEichinger come again?

FEichinger

Terry Chia

@Simon Mostly because of the things you type in here?

Lucas Kauffman

translate es: cheese omelette

:(

@LucasKauffman Still ded.

Simon

13:33

@TerryChia Right, because I'm fucking around most of the time here, it means that there's no chance I can be clever.

It makes a lot of sense, ladies.

AJ Henderson

@Simon you also seem to have issues with gender recognition ;)

FEichinger

@Simon Hint: It's the same logic you apply to calling people fat and lazy.

Terry Chia

@Simon That makes absolutely zero sense.

Simon

I give up. I fucking give up.

AJ Henderson

@FEichinger also the same logic as kalina uses for setting people on fire

FEichinger

13:34

@AJHenderson No, she has a ... system for that.

Terry Chia

@AJHenderson Isn't that just a RNG?

AJ Henderson

@TerryChia is it really random when it always returns 1

Terry Chia

@AJHenderson Well yeah, she always sets people on fire. The person she sets on fire is random though.

AJ Henderson

@Simon and besides, I was just referring to the fact they wouldn't want to make gratuitous use of Yolo and hashtags

kalina

@TerryChia I haven't set anybody on fire in ages, so I don't know what you're talking about

FEichinger

13:36

Aug 10 at 13:02, by kalina

sets fire to @TerryChia

AJ Henderson

that must explain why Simon is feeling so cold

Terry Chia

@FEichinger hahaha!

FEichinger

Jun 30 at 13:25, by kalina

sets fire to @FEichinger

kalina

@FEichinger more than 2 weeks ago

FEichinger

@kalina You were barely even here in those two weeks!

Terry Chia

13:37

@kalina What's "in ages" to you? Yesterday?

kalina

@TerryChia well, it depends on what happens during the period of time between occurrences

AJ Henderson

@TerryChia well it is if you ask a YEC

kalina

for example, I slept for 14 hours last night, if I had set fire to somebody before sleeping it would have seemed like a short period of time

Terry Chia

@AJHenderson YEC?

kalina

whereas the last two weeks I've been in 5 different countries

so yes, ages in this instance is >2 weeks

FEichinger

13:39

@TerryChia Young Earther.

AJ Henderson

@TerryChia young earth creationist, silly language joke, the word used most often translates as age, but they take it as 24 hour day

Terry Chia

@AJHenderson Ahh.

Simon

How about you donuts go listen to some real music?

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Rоry McCune

@Polynomial that was a very bad joke :op (I Approve)

Polynomial

@RоryMcCune hehe

@Simon EXCESSIVE VOMIT

AJ Henderson

13:44

@Simon impossible, his hair isn't nearly long enough for that to be real music

Simon

@Polynomial COME ON

Polynomial

@AJHenderson yeah, basically if their hair is shorter than Dobbin from Smeg & The Heads (young Lister's band from Red Dwarf) then it's not real music.

Simon

They're too emo to have really long hair.

(My Chemical Romance that is)

Polynomial

almost anything from Nuclear Blast Records is acceptable.

example...

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Terry Chia

@RоryMcCune Where have you been old man? That was ages ago.

Polynomial

13:47

listen, and wait for the chorus.

and tell me that doesn't make you want to bang your fuckin' head

Simon

@Polynomial The chorus has a lot of energy, indeed.

Polynomial

@Simon it's actually a dubstep drum pattern.

Terry Chia

Dumbest vendor response to security problem award 2014: blogs.comodo.com/comodo_news/…

Simon

@Polynomial It's pretty neat.

Polynomial

or if you wanna go full on batshit crazy

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definitely my favourite ABRB track

saw them live a while back, the bassist did the crazy little jiggery bit after the second breakdown and fistbumped me right at the end. was awesome.

Simon

13:53

I linked the first song to the gf to see what she has to say about it.

She used to listen to that stuff a damn lot.

Polynomial

The lyrics are actually really good too in the first one. It's all about stripping people of rights in a world full of surveillance, and has a lot of play-on-words stuff with the German national literature.

Rоry McCune

@TerryChia :op New job man, got stuff to set-up

Simon

@Polynomial Yeah, I caught all that. COUGH COUGH.

Terry Chia

@RоryMcCune Ah right. When are you starting again?

Rоry McCune

@TerryChia today :)

Terry Chia

13:56

@RоryMcCune Oh cool! All the best!

Remember to boss @deed02392 around.

Rоry McCune

@TerryChia heh

Polynomial

@Simon "Here there is no freedom, because freedom does not exist. There is no equality, but you don't want to be the same. Here there is no freedom, because you don't want to be free. There is no equality, but you don't want to be the same."

Simon

@Polynomial I dig that.

Polynomial

that's pretty rough translation btw, it'd sound better if someone that properly speaks German translated it

@Simon the first verse is something along the lines of "Are you afraid of freedom because it demands work? Did you fear that you'd be eternally enslaved? You're held by the chains that seduce you daily, yet you still wish to hold the chains that enslave others."

Simon

@Polynomial Now, that explains the whole video.

Polynomial

14:00

last bit might actually be "You're seduced by the chains that hold you daily"... I can't work out which way it is

and automated translation butchers it horribly

my German sucks tbh.

Simon

It's ok, mine sucks more.

Polynomial

here's something a little more accessible (and epic):

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Simon

@Polynomial Yeah the ABRB one you linked was kind of too fast.

Polynomial

Now that the music industry's ill, we're the fucking antidote!

All you ironic pop-rock fucks, DON'T YOU FUCK WITH METAAAAAL!

I'm gutted they split before I even heard of them, would've been amazing to see SYL live.

Arperum

@Polynomial I like. The ABRB one is good too.

Polynomial

14:04

almost all of their lyrics are just massive pisstakes on the metal scene and music industry.

Simon

@Polynomial I like that.

Polynomial

their best one for headbanging like hell is "Love?"

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*There is no external way to tell when a woman is ready to conceive*...
...
MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRCH!

Simon

I still don't understand what happened to me to somewhat enjoy metal now.

AJ Henderson

@Simon you grew up a little?

Polynomial

you acquired some good taste?

;]

Simon

14:08

lulz

Hardstyle has opened my mind to all genres, weirdly.

And to faster stuff, since most of the tracks are ~150 BPM.

kalina

once you can listen to something at badly damaged as hard style, you can listen to anything

Simon

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

Go spend 5 minutes on your kick-drum to make it good to go, you donut.

kalina

5 minutes? I just template everything

Deadmau5 gets away with it, why can't I?

Simon

lawl

kalina

just load up the last track, change the melody, release it under a different name

NP

Polynomial

14:10

I've got a rather eclectic set of tastes. Everything from ABRB and Gorija to Eminem and LMFAO to Venetian Snares and Noisia.

@Simon To be fair, try 5 minutes on the drums for an ABRB track and you'll have much much fitter ankles!

Simon

@Polynomial Oh I believe ya.

I still hate my parents for not making me pick up an instrument when I was a kid.

AJ Henderson

@Simon that's why I plan to make my kids take up the Kazoo

or perhaps the glockenspiel

or if they are very ambitious, the triangle

Simon

lulz

Arperum

@AJHenderson Hey, I've seen a triangle solo on a festival stage before!

Polynomial

my friend used to be the guitarist in a band called Martyr Defiled, and I helped them with stage gear a few times... watching the drummer from the back was just insane

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AJ Henderson

14:14

@Arperum I actually mentioned glock because I know a musical comedy duo where one of the guys sings and plays glock

Polynomial

it's weird seeing them in a music video

jump to 1:08 for an example of epic kick bursts

I now get to be the hipster guy who says "I knew them back when they played gigs in the back rooms of pubs to a crowd of 8 people"

Arperum

@AJHenderson I completely forgot what band it was though with the triangle, I'm not even certain where I've seen them anymore... Or it was The Black Tartan Clan, or some band I completely forgot the name of that played on Metaldays 2012, on the second stage.

Polynomial

@Arperum potentially Eluveitie?

they have some batshit weird instruments... they played a bagpipes solo in the middle of the first gig I saw them at

AJ Henderson

@Polynomial is it sad that things like that don't even phase me anymore

Arperum

@Polynomial No triangle. Bagpipes for sure, (BTC has bagpipes too)

deed02392

14:17

@RоryMcCune congrats! See you on IRC soon?

Arperum

@Polynomial And they have some other super old instrument that I don't know the english name for. (Draailier in Dutch)

AJ Henderson

@Polynomial bagpipes totally could work for metal, they are a pretty badass instrument

Polynomial

@Arperum Hurdy Gurdy (stupid name, I know)

Arperum

@Polynomial Worst English name ever.

Polynomial

@Arperum it's technically a kind of Loon, I believe.

AJ Henderson

14:19

the bagpiper at the wedding I shot a couple weekends back could totally have been in a metal band

Polynomial

I saw Eluveitie for the first time when them and Behemoth supported Slayer.

AJ Henderson

and actually @simon, I've changed my mind, I shall make sure they learn to play the Theramin instead

Arperum

I'm going to see BTC + 8 other bands friday. BTC is basically bagpipes + metal.

Polynomial

Eluveitie were on first, and Behemoth came on stage early by accident while they were moving around

Simon

@AJHenderson The hell.

Polynomial

14:21

so they ended up doing a mashup set

was epic

AJ Henderson

@Arperum this I must listen to

Arperum

@AJHenderson Yes, yes you should.

AJ Henderson

@Polynomial and this is why festivals are awesome

Arperum

@AJHenderson play.spotify.com/track/6oft5MGta1D3coYkwW35YL

AJ Henderson

@Arperum I'm a google play music guy, what's the song name?

Polynomial

14:23

@AJHenderson this was just a little gig at Rock City in Nottingham

AJ Henderson

@Polynomial ah

Arperum

@AJHenderson Na Fir Dileas, played by The Black Tartan Clan.

Polynomial

you know what band are wholly underrated? Machinae Supremacy.

AJ Henderson

@Polynomial and I suppose either way that's a lie, what I really like about festivals is hanging out backstage with the bands

because that's how I roll

Polynomial

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AJ Henderson

14:27

oh yes, and not having to pay to be there

Polynomial

rock + chiptune + gamer/metal lyrics = win

AJ Henderson

and occasionally even being paid... miss having the free time for that

which is also part of why it no longer feels weird to see people I know in music videos

Simon

I miss the donut I threw away.

Arperum

@AJHenderson Not having to pay is awesome. It doesn't happen all that frequent for me though (I had a free VIP-ticket at metaldays 2012, and friday I have a free press-ticket for some festival here in Belgium).

AJ Henderson

@Arperum I do A/V stuff, so I used to frequently either be working with the sound, video or photography

and when you realize musicians are normal people (and generally they realize it too), you can actually have pretty cool conversations with them when you act normal around them

Polynomial

14:32

@AJHenderson I keep meaning to build my own DMX controller.

considering the proper ones are insanely priced (at least in the UK)

AJ Henderson

but since I started as a software developer, I just haven't had time to hit up the festival circuits anymore

Polynomial

and I can basically build one with an Arduino Mega2560

AJ Henderson

which makes me sad

Polynomial

a sad panda?

AJ Henderson

@Polynomial um, you can get DMX controllers for single universes for under $100

Polynomial

14:34

@AJHenderson in the USA. in the UK they're expensive.

and I can basically build one for about £30.

AJ Henderson

@Polynomial ah, you guys really get screwed on the A/V gear in general

Polynomial

and learn more about how DMX works in the process.

AJ Henderson

but I don't feel bad for you guys because your laws make it so I can't record more than 29:59 of video on my DSLR without having to use a third party firmware hack

Arperum

@AJHenderson I'm just your average metalhead. No special things for me :(

Polynomial

@AJHenderson all hardware. basically any price you'd pay for PC gear in the states, in dollars, pay the same plus maybe a bit more in pounds (exchange rate is ~$0.60 to £1)

so essentially double the price.

@AJHenderson wait, what? O_o

AJ Henderson

14:36

@Polynomial EU law classifies anything that records 30 minutes or more of video as a video capture device

Polynomial

I've never heard of a UK law that says you can't record >30 mins on... anything at all.

AJ Henderson

and charges a 15% tax

Simon

@Polynomial What would you use it for anyway?

Polynomial

ohhhh, bloody EU product laws.

AJ Henderson

so all the DSLR manufacturers gimp their products

and most don't bother making EU specific models

Polynomial

14:36

@Simon you can buy DMX lighting quite cheaply, it's the controllers that cost a fortune.

Simon

@Polynomial I see but I mean, would you host a show or something?

Or is it only for teh lulz?

Polynomial

@Simon Oh, not really. Just for fun.

Simon

kk

Polynomial

we're running a disco thing at EMF Camp so I've been looking into it

but it costs too much to get DMX stuff running in time

AJ Henderson

@Polynomial well, depends on what kind of lighting you want, you can also spend a bloody fortune on DMX controlled lighting

Terry Chia

14:38

Oh @Polynomial, do you know @DavidFreitag since you have been missing for a bit?

AJ Henderson

DMX itself is pretty simple though

Polynomial

@AJHenderson oh definitely, but the basic stuff (RGB light arrays) are relatively cheap

Terry Chia

He shares your interest in hardware stuff. :)

Polynomial

@TerryChia he's been around way longer than I've been missing ;]

AJ Henderson

@Polynomial ah yes, and then you get in to all the various DMX color mixing schemes

Terry Chia

14:39

@Polynomial Ahh cool. I'm starting to lose track of who became a regular when.

AJ Henderson

RGB8, RGBA8, RGB16, RGBA16, etc, etc

Polynomial

yup, though I'm familiar with those concepts from driving lighting arrays myself, and from doing raw image processing stuff in software

R3G2B3 is a common 8-bit encoding.

AJ Henderson

and then you get in to the crazy number of proprietary DMX alternatives and things get all kinds of fun

Polynomial

I kinda don't want to even consider how mental the protocol must get for laser projectors

considering the number of different things they can do

AJ Henderson

yeah, I haven't had a chance to work with them

I'd like to work with them and pyrotechnics at some point

Polynomial

14:42

I know pyro is more complex than it seems

in terms of driving from DMX, at least

since often you can't just have a "fire" command

AJ Henderson

I'd hazard that lasers probably are still taking a basic x/y position protocol, it just has to update far faster than DMX does

Polynomial

you need to do stuff like priming or heating

@AJHenderson kinda, but with multi-laser or different physical front-ends it becomes complex.

AJ Henderson

@Polynomial and then some effects may take time to fire

@Polynomial yeah, but that's more the controller's job than the protocol

controllers for those things do things like exclusion zones and stuff too

Polynomial

kinda. the one I was looking at a while back has three separate prisms and four different lenses that can be swapped mechanically.

AJ Henderson

so that you can easily adapt a show to not shine the lasers in people's eyes

Polynomial

14:44

so you can get different warps and splits

which makes things a bit more complex, because it's not just a beam at an x/y

AJ Henderson

@Polynomial right, but those would work just like gobos and color wheels on robos

Polynomial

probably

it looked confusing :P

AJ Henderson

that's just a matter of having the proper personality for the fixture

and a controller that actually understands the personality

Simon

You guys remind me of that dude who made a choreography with the lights on his house.

AJ Henderson

@Polynomial it isn't that confusing, but then again, I've also been doing it at various levels for over 15 years and have worked on troubleshooting problems with guys that tour for a living with international artists, so I suppose "simple" is a relative term for me at this point

@Simon which one

lots of people do that

Polynomial

14:47

@AJHenderson the burden of experience ;]

Simon

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AJ Henderson

my favorite one was working with a light tech for 4 hours before we realized the idiot of a light supplier had given us a cable with the polarity reversed on it

the robos were just freaking out doing bizarre things and I ended up noticing it seemed like the values were getting reversed

Polynomial

best movie scene ever:

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AJ Henderson

and finally managed to find the documentation on the protocol they were using and identify the problem

needless to say, we didn't use that light supplier again

@Simon there is actually a guy who hooked up his christmas lights to the internet and let people remote control him. The first time he "did it" was actually a hoax, but then the second time around, he did it for real

Simon

@AJHenderson That's pretty damn cool.

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