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05:25
Some here play Ingress, right?
^Spans most of India. Executed by some folks I know :O
06:12
@ManishEarth nice, yep @RoryAlsop is a pretty active player for the enlightened.. I've played in the past but there aren't really any portals near me so don't now..
 
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11:43
Quiet on here today
ssshhhh
@AviD hangover?
no. too damn hot.
can't wait for this heatwave to blow over.
also, our independance day weekend is starting tonight, so there's that.
yes yes, I know, middle of the week....
looks like wednesday it starts to cool off, then we'll get a few weeks of gorgeous weather.
@AviD ssshhhhhhhhhhhhh
@TerryChia @avid brrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
11:55
heh
@RоryMcCune brrrr?? what, you're cold?
So they say it's only 31C, but it feels like 32C.
that's my week
that said I'm mostly doing tests this week so apart from the odd walk won't affect me too much :)
I want to say it feels like 36C, but truthfully at that level it all just feels the same.
It's like goddamn Crematoria.
yeesh that's too hot
In JavaScript, everything’s an object…apart from when it’s not and it’s just pain.
@RоryMcCune yeah, our A/C works overtime. pretty much on for 4 months straight.
12:03
@AviD air con.. that's like central heating for hot places right :op
hehe
acutally a problem in UK hotels is that the air con is usually shockingly bad, so when it's too hot there's nothing you can do
bigger problem london where they tend to have rooms with windows that don't open..
yeah, and since I like it cold I'm always trying to get them to just shut it off, better air from outside.
@RоryMcCune ah yeah thats true.
12:16
Oh neat, the release candidate for RHEL 7 is out. Not long now.
@TerryChia that's like the old-guys version of arch right?
@RоryMcCune Pssssh.
12:35
@ThomasPornin Hey Thomas, are you aware of any protocols out there that use HKDF's expand stage only? The RFC mentions that being an option but I was wondering how widespread it is.
@RоryMcCune ah the health and safety regulations, yup I've seen ground floor travelodge rooms where windows don't open so you don't commit suicide by jumping those 10 inches down :)
they never seem to consider how many people wanna kill themselves exactly for being fed up with stupid regulations tho
@TildalWave Of interest perhaps: sophia.estec.esa.int/socis/?q=about
@TerryChia I'll push it forward, sadly I'm no longer a student for the last 20 years or thereabout :)
good times ...
@TildalWave Heh. I know that. Was assuming you would want to plug it on space.se.
@TerryChia I will, cheers!
13:00
@TerryChia are you sitting on the edge of your seat? Do you have a Red Hat-hat on?
@LucasKauffman I don't own a Red Hat hat so no. :P
damnit my drunk comments are still on the wall :(
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@LucasKauffman That's the idea.
that's not nice
@LucasKauffman Welcome to the DMZ.
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13:05
@TerryChia I'm getting back to singapore between 15 july and 15 august, fancy some black pepper crab?
Please prevent yourself from writing nonsense — Savakh 57 mins ago
hahaha owww @LucasKauffman :D
@TildalWave yea indeed :p
the man doesn't know me
@LucasKauffman why didn't you VTC the question?
@LucasKauffman Cool. Work stuff?
@TildalWave It's not bad question
13:07
@LucasKauffman Sounds like he's describing you real well actually.
@LucasKauffman it's too broad
@TerryChia I'm trying to get something work related going to get them to pay my tickets, but so far just holidays
instead I get to go to china for a week though
@LucasKauffman Which part? The food in Beijing is pretty good.
@TerryChia we aren't actually sure yet, it might be Shenzhen
@LucasKauffman Ahh, never been to that part. It looks pretty close to HK though, and HK is awesome.
13:10
@TildalWave you left an excellent comment. Modhood really suits you.
@AviD shuddup!
heh, no seriously
@AviD You mean there's more to being a mod than kicking @Simon from chatrooms and pinning @LucasKauffman's drunk posts?
@TerryChia not much, no.
those are the important ones.
last weekend was bad, local pub had beers at half price to get rid of the stock
13:13
@AviD I just learned to use those help link shorthands ... e.g. [About], [Ask], [Answer], [Help] ... and noticed that the comments are better received when I use them. If nothing else, it gives them plenty to read before they reply with the next protest LOL
I think I managed to drink about 8 pints, 1 whisky, 1 chimay, 1 la Chouffe and 2 imperial IPAs
@TildalWave heh, yeah
@LucasKauffman you better steer clear of my country then, we're "trying to get rid of the stock with one half the normal price in Belgium" all the time :)))
@TildalWave Memo to myself, plan liver transplant after coming back from Slovenia
@TildalWave btw hows that friend of yours?
has she found a new job?
@LucasKauffman neah Belgium didn't work for her, she's back here now
13:20
@TildalWave ow :(
not really the fault of the country, just that she was screw'd up by her "friend" there
(not it the sense that some might be thinking of :P)
especially @Avid with his perverted mind!
13:38
@LucasKauffman heeeeeeey
14:01
Interesting. So, if you want to see what people are buying (or at least thinking about buying) on Amazon, just check out #AmazonCart & #AmazonBasket on Twitter.
Amazon now lets you shop through Twitter http://vrge.co/1nizfBW
14:21
spam as a service?
@TildalWave yeah that or in London where they're (potentially legitimately) worried about people nicking your stuff...
14:36
@RоryMcCune Haven't thought of that, I never really leave anything of value in hotel rooms, tho they could use some bars then (designed a bit so they don't look like prison cell). They didn't open at all in Travelodge, not an inch.
And that was in Wimbledon, I honestly wouldn't think there's many thefts there
(I could be wrong tho)
@TildalWave yeah definitely lower floors need security down there.. I sometimes have a laptop which goes in the room safe. Not that I think the safes are much cop but from an insurance/hotel payout perspective it makes sense...
@TildalWave hmm not sure about wimbledon specifically... don't think it's one of the dodgier parts of london..
@RоryMcCune on the other hand, this one does look suspicious: goo.gl/maps/d7hpY :)) joking, of course
@TildalWave heh
interesting that Google didn't blur her ...
@TildalWave yeah algorithms obv. not flawless, perhaps googlers only used staff for models and don't have any oldies!
14:45
@RоryMcCune it's a bit offensive tho that some google software though that's not a face
@TildalWave yeah one way trip to tabloid headline there!
or maybe the software is smarter than we think ... thought to itself "does this woman look like she could find out? hmmm.... no, move on" :)
it's becoming self-aware!
Or maybe that's not a real woman.... Google knows it's an android, disguised to look like an older woman....
@AviD That in London outskirts, it's more likely it's a Dalek :)
14:49
@TildalWave Daleks don't use disguises
@AviD ya say that...
@TildalWave sounds saasy
@AviD they can hack the google streetview car tho, threaten it to replace the image with an elderly
@AJHenderson :)
14:50
that's not a disguise, thats like a virus
church of the papal mainframe were disguised daleks
</geek>
and even so, Tasha Lem was able to overcome the Dalek impulses.
</even more gekk>
The theory that she is really an incarnation of River Song would have been awesome, if only the timelines could have worked out.
@AviD she did , but the others on the mainframe (AFAICR) didn't
and when the doctor came aboard they were disguised daleks ;op
@RоryMcCune true. still not a disguise, tho
@AviD dalek... looked like human (or silence)... how is that not a disguise....
actually the answer is they weren't daleks
14:53
no, they ARE human. human-infected dalek something or other.
they were just converted people with bits of dalek tech
but hey I'm close
eggsovereasy.
@AviD oh and sarcy person :OP
for someone coming into the whovian universe relatively late, I know it pretty well.
@AviD <simonstyle>NERD!</simonstyle>
14:56
indeed, admittedly so.
hey @LucasKauffman how would you spell ghent? with an h or without?
I should stop looking a the new gTLDs for funny combinations, I'll just end up wasting money on it..
is anyone watching Fargo (the new 10 part series)?
latest one I found intelli.gent
@RоryMcCune It's "NURD"
Bad spelling is part of simonstyle as well.
@TerryChia isnt simonstyle the type of bad music that @simon listens to?
15:06
@tildal - planning to. PVR'ed.
I also now have series 1to 3 on my Sky box. So will probably watch it
Morning pretty birds.
Heh. This almost sounds like it might belong on Programming Puzzles & Code Golf.
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Q: A tiny version of wget (51 bytes?)

lorenzogOn this ISC article on DVR compromise the author talks about the compromise of an embedded system. In particular, the attacker executes a series of echo commands on the remote host, and: The first echo writes 51 bytes to "/var/run/rand0-btcminer-arm" and the second echo returns "done", indi...

15:40
@RoryAlsop I just noticed MetalTech doesn't have a bio on Spotify. Is that something you guys are planning on putting in at some point? Or does that require some extra-special relationship with Spotify?
another pointless available cool domain name hyperl.ink
@RоryMcCune Getting into the business of cyber-squatting are we?
whats cyber-squirting?
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@AviD Pervert.
@TerryChia more seeing if there's any potential use for all these new gTLDs . only person I saw using one was a joke one. He regiestered fart.academy
15:51
@RоryMcCune You mean besides lining ICANN's pockets?
@TerryChia yeah the guy who came up with "each word in the latin or other script should be worth $185k" is a genius! I hope they gave him a massive bonus
aww man... foo.bar is available
I must be able to think of some reason I need that
@RоryMcCune you mean "... is a total douchebag. I hope they shoot him in the testicles."
@RоryMcCune for presentation demos, of course.
@AviD from their point of view he's a genius !
@AviD oh yeah test apps on foo.bar
@RоryMcCune and what does that say about them?
@AviD they're scum sucking molluscs?
15:55
@RоryMcCune "they are total douchebags. I hope someone shoots them in the testicles."
@RоryMcCune I didn't know @AviD worked at ICANN. ;)
@TerryChia hey, there might be some things I might agree to suck, but scummy molluscs ain't one of them .
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@AviD TWSS
16:18
@RоryMcCune gent
@LucasKauffman I wonder why we english-language types add in an h...
@RоryMcCune Well the english form is Ghent, but the Dutch form is Gent. Mostly because you have a different pronounciation of the 'g', for us it's a soft toned vowel, which would sound what your g and an h combined should sound like in English
ɣ̟ɛn̪t̪
@LucasKauffman and there's the answer :)
that's how we pronounce it
@LucasKauffman so are all people of Gent gents?
16:33
@TildalWave no fortunately not
in Ask Ubuntu General Room, 1 min ago, by Lucio
Disk Encryption Algorithms:
  0. AES
  1. Blowfish
  2. Serpent
  3. Twofish
@LucasKauffman how do you call G(h)ent people then?
so... which should I tell him? AES seems popular
@TildalWave Gentenaren
@Braiam I use AES because you can make use of the AES-NI instruction on your cpu
16:35
@LucasKauffman That's in Dutch or also in English?
JFK once called the people of Berlin as Berliners :)
Actually, himself LOL "Ich bin ein Berliner"
@TildalWave Dutch
I had Metaltech playing on my headphones before I got on this telecon and just left it running. Heard "Burn Your Fucking Planet" come on. Was really tempted to just put the headphone up to the mic and scare the crap out of the whole telecon.
Oh, "Wasted"... another good one.
17:01
@AviD It's what I made your mom do in IRC last night.
17:18
wow
@AviD Did you install the 8.1 Dev Preview? I'm seriously considering it.
oy Rory's cc @RоryMcCune @RoryAlsop can you explain this?
:)))
@TildalWave I think he lives in Portland.
17:33
@ScottPack he drives on the wrong side of the street then
@ScottPack Oh, I think that after Portlandia, everybody knows that.
I'm saying "he" but I'm really only judging by the knee quality :)
@TildalWave Driver in the background is sitting to the left side of the car.
Looks like it's outside the UK to me
@Adnan how do you know that's a driver?
@TildalWave Fuck.
@TildalWave I assumed it's one person in the car
17:35
@Adnan ROFL
Here you go, I'll shamelessly plug myself.
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A: A tiny version of wget (51 bytes?)

AdnanThe author had made the mistake of being ambiguous and confused the readers a bit. I must admit, like you, I was confused at first, until I saw the PCAP dump. First of all, the box indeed doesn't have wget The attacker didn't use that one echo statement, he used a series of echo statements. I...

@Adnan Do they shot that guy in Portlandia?
@ScottPack Not exactly, but they show a lot of people of his kind.
I've only seen the first episode. It didn't really do it for me.
Herm. I think google docs just went down.
Really not a good time since i have an 8 page essay due and now i cant access it :[
17:50
@DavidFreitag Access is via Drive.
@DavidFreitag I'm doing that right now
@Adnan Yeah, well either way I'm pretty fucked right now.
Looks like only some of my documents will open but my essay wont.
@DavidFreitag Just freaking download it with Drive and open it locally
@Adnan Won't connect
Weird. I click on a document -> 502. Right-click download -> works
18:04
I tried downloading it, but the download went at 0.5KB/s then timed out
@DavidFreitag Hmmm.. could be an EU/US datacenter thing.
@Adnan FUUUUUUUUUUUUU
@DavidFreitag If you really need the file, share it with me and I'll mirror it for you on Dropbox immediately
Somehow i knew using google docs for my school work would bite me in the ass
@Adnan I'll keep trying to get it, but if i can't I might take you up on that
@DavidFreitag Change the privacy and send me the link to my email (you already have it. If not, it's in my Sec.SE profile).
The download is now working for me, who knows what's gonna happen in 10 minutes.
18:13
@Adnan Aight. Just in case it never works for me.
> Word Count: 1116
@Adnan Oh god it didn't save any changes
@DavidFreitag I have 3.5 pages
@Adnan Yeah it didn't save any of my edits that i made today. That was how i left it a week ago, but that's better than nothing i guess...
@TildalWave USA people mis-understanding Scotland :)
18:18
That's it, after this I'm making a Docs script to autosave documents locally.
@DavidFreitag Oooor, just use Libre/Microsoft office.
@DavidFreitag Hehehehe... export isn't working.. :D
@Adnan Meh, i like docs better. A lot more simple.
Fuck
If docs isn't fixed by the time class starts i can demonstrate my inability to access my files and hopefully the instructor will have mercy
I had to use a lot of trickery to get to open, so it's kind of disfigured
Okay, I found a way to improve it a bit.
I sent you the new link
18:24
I bet gdocs is stored in xml of some kind. If you can just get the file to me i can probably strip out the raw text
Confirm when you have it so I can remove it from my dropbox
@Adnan Got it thanks
You should read that btw, it's quite funny.
The instructor is practically in love with Obama
So i wrote that with utmost praise. It's kind of sickening but i know I'll get an A.
@DavidFreitag We all know what education is all about, getting all of the A's
Well, back to bashing my face into the keyboard...
@Adnan Thanks much :D
Afternoon all!
@Iszi Dunno - will go and check just now...
@TildalWave Surely no explanation needed - Darth Vader's Scottish half brother, on his unicycle, firebreathing the bagpipes to call the unwary to their demise.
18:33
@RoryAlsop watcha'
@RоryMcCune how's it going? It's been a bizarrely good weekend here - today was a bank holiday, and I'm still not used to them
and I have tomorrow off to look after the kids, as they don't go back till Wednesday, so mostly just been annoying the Edinburgh Resistance
We took back most of Edinburgh yesterday, despite there only being 11 of us out :-)
@RoryAlsop heh, nice. yeah we're just winding up for Scottish Ruby Conf next week, we're doing a workshop on web app testing for developers, which should be fun
@RоryMcCune where are you doing it? Edinburgh?
@RoryAlsop cool, I must remember to try some more portal submissions, tried a couple but didn't get in..
@RoryAlsop crieff. the conf is at the hydro
@RоryMcCune Just keep retrying - I improve the description each time
@RоryMcCune nice - 3 portals there
ahem
one of them got me my 150 day badge
18:38
@RoryAlsop ahh what sort of stuff do you put in descriptions? Just factual text or "ambiance" stuff?
BTW was going to ask is your bro' still at RBS in the unix team?
@RоryMcCune It seems to be best if description, and any historic story. The data ends up going into Niantic's other projects - their tourist guide thing, and now this awesome looking game
@RоryMcCune Factual plus some historic stories - it ends up going into Niantic's other projects; the tourist guide thing, and this awesome game:
@RоryMcCune yes - still there. Sits one floor below me :-)
For Endgame - first big prize is 1 meeeeellion dollars!!!!
@RoryAlsop My brother-in-law is starting tomorrow as a contractor with Oracle, so may well run into him... tell him to keep an eye out for Neil Ellis
@RoryAlsop shiney!
@RоryMcCune ahh - well Craig is a contractor with Oracle, so will definitely run into him
@RoryAlsop that's v. interesting that Ingress is coming out for iOS
surprising given that they're part of google...
@RоryMcCune they have been talking about it for months, but it looks like it will meet the planned date. Gets more folks in...
18:44
@RoryAlsop they just need a windows phone port and I can persuade the missus to play :)
@RоryMcCune And me.
They haven't mentioned windows, I'm afraid
It's ok. I'll probably be too busy playing with Cortana for awhile to be worried about any games anyway.
Having fun with these two websites. Interesting and slightly useful: shipais.com and heavens-above.com
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@Iszi :-)
I gave in to the overwhelming anticipation and just decided to install the Developer Preview. Data migration from the first update is in progress now. One update & migration to go after that, and I should be set.
18:51
@Iszi my missus did too, but she's been having some crashing problems since updating..
@RоryMcCune Which model?
thought it might be down to the alarm app oddly...
Nokia 1020
@RоryMcCune Yikes. Let me know if you get that cleared up. My wife wants to do the update, and she's running a 1020 too.
@Iszi yeah, she's turned off the alarms app so we'll see if that fixes it....
I'm on a 920 myself. I told her to let me kick the tires for a week or two before she should go ahead with it.
18:52
@Iszi good plan..
Have you found any reliable (or at least reliable-looking) walkthroughs for rollback? I know it's not supposed to be simple, if at all possible.
@Iszi hmm I'll ask the missus, it's more her bag than mine :)
This data migration feels like it's taking forever. I think I need to trim the fat a bit.
@Iszi so crashing apparently is still happening on the 1020 with the alarms app off and missus hasn't seen a way of rolling back
all that said her windows profile is so complex it could well be something specific to her that's causing the crashes :)
she made the error of having a windows live account login name with the same e-mail address as a office365 login and it's caused all sorts of havoc
with the latest bit being that oddly the windows 8.1 metro news app just won't work for her.
Interesting.
@RоryMcCune It just silently crashes and reboots, right?
18:59
@Iszi nope crashes hard and needs some variation of power+vol-up or down (or both) to bring it back to life
@RоryMcCune Ok... Crashes hard as in no display?
@Iszi yeppers
Generally when she's not looking?
For all the metalheads on here, have you seen the current line-ups for Download and Alt-Fest?
Holy smoke - it's going to be an awesome summer
@Iszi yarr
19:02
@RоryMcCune Sounds like what my wife's phone does sometimes, and she doesn't even have 8.1. It also occasionally reboots itself (usually overnight) after which point the volume has mysteriously been adjusted.
@RoryAlsop I'll be at a gig at the time of download but a slightly different type of music... oran-mor.co.uk/whats-on/…
@Iszi that is odd..
MS store just says do a factory refresh and see if that helps. Of course, she'd rather avoid that.
@Iszi I used to avoid that with my android, but recently had to do it repeatedly (weird problem with charging which appears software related), think I'm going back to iPhones or win phone later this year..
@RоryMcCune What android device did you get?
@DavidFreitag Xperia Z , nice phone waterproof is v.useful in the UK but I hate the bundled sony stuff and it's hard to get rid of without mucking about rooting/installing other ROMS on it
tryed cyanogenmod at the weekend, but both 10.2 stable and 11 nightly seemed to crash on boot
19:06
@RоryMcCune Yeah that's why i stick with Nexus devices. Vanilla is always the best way to go.
@DavidFreitag yeah I did almost go nexus but then was seduced by the idea of a waterproof phone as a hill walking GPS
@RоryMcCune I never like Cyanogenmod, I've been particular to Bugless Beast, but he stopped releasing updates a while ago.
@RоryMcCune Has the Mrs. had any issues with battery life post-8.1?
@RоryMcCune looks good
@Iszi don't think so...
@RoryAlsop yeah I was surprised that their world tour hits Glasgow!
will be interesting to see if they bring the flaming saxophone guy or the 7ft clown
19:07
@DavidFreitag I tend to go slight variations on cyanogen - nice and stable, but worth tweaking to get slightly better functionality
@RоryMcCune hahaha
Did you see the lineup for the steampunk stage on that alt-fest link?
@RoryAlsop @RоryMcCune have you Tried AOKP? They are very good so long as you don't mind a few pink unicorns.
@RоryMcCune And she uses Cortana? That was kind-of one of my worries, and I think I've seen some reports of it. Since Cortana is always keeping track of you, it would make sense she could be a battery hog.
@RoryAlsop looks awesome!
I'm trying to work out how to see all these great bands. There may be some clashes. This is just my must see list:
Avenged Sevenfold
Linkin Park
Aerosmith
Rob Zombie
Fall Out Boy
Alter Bridge
Steel Panther
Killswitch Engage
Powerman 5000
Bowling For Soup
Joe Bonamassa
Richie Sambora
Buckcherry
Offspring
Status Quo
Trivium
Bad Religion
Twisted Sister
Wildhearts
Flogging Molly
Tesla
Monster Magnet
Skid Row
Chevelle
Seether
Phil Anselmo
Sepultura
Opeth
Behemoth
Dillinger Escape Plan
Black Dahlia Murder
Dan Reed Network
ZebraHead

VNV Nation
Marilyn Manson
The Cult
Fields of the Nephilim
Gary Numan
Killing Joke
@RoryAlsop Aw man that is an awesome list. This is officially me super jelly.
19:09
@DavidFreitag I've not....
@RoryAlsop Holy crap... How long have you been building that list?
@Iszi AFAIK cortana is US only at the moment...
@RоryMcCune Oh, that's right. And she didn't bother messing with the localization settings I take it?
@RоryMcCune Definitely worth a try. I used them on my Galaxy Nexus when Bugless Beast stopped coming out. Great features and way more stable than Cyanogenmod.
@Iszi don't think so :)
@DavidFreitag coolio, might give that a try , ta :)
19:11
It's ok. She probably wouldn't understand y'allz's accents anyway.
@Iszi this is true...
@Iszi about 1 minute - I just went down the list of bands in these 2 festivals and ticked all the ones I like
heya
@M'vy evenin
@M'vy watcha'
19:12
Welp I'm off to another physics test. See ya later.
@DavidFreitag I'm guessing that's not a fun one, like the LHC being turned on?
:-)
good luck
@RoryAlsop No more like conservation of energy + momentum
@RoryAlsop Thanks, I'll probably need it.
@RоryMcCune well new home, new job
New stuff
@M'vy cool (well the new home one tends to be cool once it's all over :)
Yeah. 63 meters sq
with new Tv and new sofa :P
19:16
nice :)
I'll put some pics on my G+ eventually :P
19:42
@RоryMcCune You've got me going through Scott Bradlee's video channel...again...they are rather good
 
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20:59
@RoryAlsop heh yeah I end up there quite a bit, amusingly there's quite a few modern songs that I've only ever heard the Scott Bradlee version !
21:17
Love their version of What does the fox say?
The wife and kids knew every one of their songs - I knew a couple :-)

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