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@Adnan I put a bounty on security.stackexchange.com/questions/44849/… : The current answers do not contain enough detail.
Gak, I forgot to enter the bounty comment
C'mon guys what's going on here? You can't give it to @Gilles just because he cares, can you? And I don't think he should be expected to wear gloves while asking to better our approach to handling stuff of us here either, do you?
Bye @Simon!
00:30
@Gilles Really? You're doing that now? Justifying your personal statement with something I said after your personal statement?
He went there
My gf does that in almost every argument.
Now that I think about it, mothers usually do that too.
and teenagers.
My grandma did that to me once
F$*&ed up
@TildalWave Go back to your Sex.SE.
Is that a thing?!
00:34
@Gilles Oh, in that case.. hello my dear friend, Gilles.
@Adnan please, just drop this
@TildalWave Drop what?
The f*** are you talking about?
You know...
00:35
@Adnan you're now telling me off for asking of everyone here to be a bit more courteous
@TildalWave Oh yeah, because you know, when I tell you "Go back to Sex.SE", I really mean it.
Just like we really mean all the f***ed up stuff we say.
Please, @Tildal.
What happened to that group hug we were talking about earlier? Is that still on the table?
@Adnan I know you don't but it could be easily misconstrued by others, couldn't it? Especially given the tone of previous messages
@TildalWave Duuuude! There's no hard feelings towards @Gilles. I even jokingly mentioned my greed and desire to get the bounty.
3 mins ago, by Adnan
@Gilles Oh, in that case.. hello my dear friend, Gilles.
Jesus! Talk about who needs to drop it.
@AbeMiessler I don't like dogs.
Who the f@#$ said anything about dogs?
Don't lose it on me....
00:39
@AbeMiessler Oh, your avatar picture confused me.
oh lol
i get it
yeah they are over rated
Now, let's forget our differences and laugh together at this security.stackexchange.com/posts/45324/revisions
 
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01:52
No Trinity! Don't kill Rita shes the only reason i watch this show!
Goddamnit.
This is why i can never watch 3rd Rock From The Sun again.
 
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04:57
/cc @Simon
05:23
Does anyone know if its possible to add/create an account with NT\SYSTEM that has domain admin permissions (i've popped a shell on a PDC but am unsure if this is possible??)
I've made an account via net user /add and net localgroup administrators /add
which works fine, but yeah, can i elevate that to domain admin?
From memory i can, but for the life of me i can't remember the commands... :(
05:36
Hi guys and girls, I don't know if someone's awake. I have a ""simple"" question about cascade encryption. :)
@D3C4FF Sorry I can't help you on that question... :(
@JeremyDicaire Bummer! I can't really help you on your crypto question either... :(
Hahaha!!
@D3C4FF @D3C4FF @D3C4FF @D3C4FF @D3C4FF @D3C4FF @D3C4FF @D3C4FF @D3C4FF @D3C4FF @D3C4FF @D3C4FF @D3C4FF @D3C4FF @D3C4FF @D3C4FF
@paste :D I see you've embraced felininity :P
@copy @paste @copy @paste @copy @paste @copy @paste @copy @paste
No problem..
Wow 3 peopl's awake!!
05:39
@copy is sleeping :(
But I am a cat.
@paste , Nice nickname you got there!
Meow
bark! bark!
@TerryChia We protest when something need to be done ;)
@paste Hence the felininity comments. :D
Whats news?
@JeremyDicaire might be a good idea to post your question up on crypto.se or sec.se depending on what it is :)
yeah Im going to do it.. :) thanks..
05:46
Nothing, work, uni, exams, interviews...
(depending of the community, some prefer when ppl ask questions on chat before making a question ... it's quite confusing
@paste Whatcha working as?
Sysadmin intern
06:07
@paste Cool. Better than flippin' burgers :D
Yeah, I'm going to quit.
@paste Got another job lined up?
Shit.
Gotta bail. Soz!
:(
Have fun
 
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10:06
@Adnan who the smeg is Rory McCaine?
10:51
@RoryMcCune No idea! Now that I know how to say your name, Rory McCaine sounds so weird.
 
2 hours later…
13:01
@RoryMcCune @Adnan seems to indicate your name is pronounced strangely. Is it "kyoon", "koon", "kuhn", or something else?
@ScottPack it's like Tune so of yours I guess Kyoon is the closest. Just as well I don't have the gaelic spelling of my first name (ruaridgh) or who knows how people would try to pronounce it ....
13:14
@RoryMcCune In the US tune and toon (as in cartoon) are the same sound.
Seriously. I just updated the kernel on my Ubuntu box yesterday. Why is there another one?
@ScottPack there's always a new kernel in ubuntu-land! and sometimes they randomly break full disk encryption which is super fun if you're out on customer site!
But but LTS
heh nice one
Apparently Ubuntu is the new hotness for server installs. That surprises me.
@ScottPack I don't think so, at least, as far as i have seen, there is a huge amount of Ubuntu documentation around. Not to mention anyone i have ever met that has ever liked Linux has used Ubuntu.
13:29
@TerryChia The way Québec is described is pretty accurate.
@Simon What, "People who talk funny"?
On the left of that.
Maple Syrup?
Ya
We dug up an old ad from 1988. What's funny is we are still pretty much using this same technology.
13:34
@DavidFreitag In the Linux server space we've pretty much always had RHEL and it's children, with Ubuntu taking market space in the desktop. I suppose I shouldn't be, spending as much time on SF as I have, but it still surprises me that you would want to use a desktop OS as your server.
@ScottPack Ubuntu server is where it's at (no GUI)
It's very quick to setup.
@ScottPack Well, people learn it in the desktop environment. If i was going to make a server, i would choose the OS i had the most experience with...
Not that i have any comparison to make, Ubuntu server really pretty much configures itself automatically, so for a novice user it's really a dream come true.
But i could see why, from an expert point of view, that might be a bad thing.
Yep
Novice and lazy users.
@Simon Sometimes i will load LXDE, but i won't start it unless there is something i just can't figure out how to do from terminal.
Well. Physics.SE was quoted on Randall's What If.
13:37
@ScottPack Link?
@DavidFreitag Ah. I always find le way to fix everything in terminal (unless I do have access to GUI)
@ScottPack You look splendid today.
@DavidFreitag The best business case I've heard for it is in environments where technology is driven by the developers.
@Simon What about setting up WPA2 Personal?
@DavidFreitag EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
spaces out
Now that I think about it, I was always wired in.
@Simon It's doable, but fucking annoying as shit. And if you don't have google at your side, it's pretty much impossible.
13:39
Oh I absolutely have Google with me.
@DavidFreitag The RHEL-kin tend to lag behind in software versions and you have to pick up a broad spread of repositories to get more esoteric stuff. In some cases you can't even find a repository that has a package for what you want. Most of the rpms I build are for perl modules from CPAN.
@DavidFreitag Ubuntu tends to be much faster with updates and by including Universe you get a shitload of stuff.
@ScottPack heh, i know a bit about building perl modules from CPAN. It took bugzilla's perl dependencies nearly ten minutes to build from CPAN.
@DavidFreitag In one case you're purposely holding back on adding new features so you can better support the whole. In the other case you're getting all the new hotness right off.
l'hotness
@ScottPack Yep, and both sides of that coin have their positives and their negatives.
13:41
In the Security Office we do quite a lot of perl work. As the guy who manages our systems I also would rather spend the time writing a SPEC than telling our guys to go to CPAN.
I just don't understand how building a few perl modules could take that long. I mean sure, it's a pentium 4, but still, it shouldn't take ten minutes.
Manage my heart.
@DavidFreitag Quite right. In the general case I lean more towards the stability side, but there are certainly business cases to be had for both. It just seems as though the business case most often heard is, "I used Ubuntu on a VM once to see what this whole linux thing was about so now it's a server cuz linux."
@ScottPack Yep, Ubuntu is Linux for humans.
@DavidFreitag Building rpms is a very sequential process and depending on the build environment it can take a while just to set things up.
I use mock to do all my stuff which sets up a chroot minimal build environment for the target distro and arch.
13:43
Although i imagine for anyone who has a huge infrastructure, keeping up with the updates that get pushed out for Ubuntu would be... staggering.
For most things less complicated than snort there's more time spent setting up and tearing down the build environment than creating the package.
Awww yeah, free nuts at the office. My day can't go wrong.
OM NOM NOM NUTS
Oh, @DavidFreitag. what-if.xkcd.com/71
@Simon Unless you suddenly found out you were allergic to nuts.
@ScottPack Thank you kindly.
@DavidFreitag I had some yesterday so it would be surprising. I love nuts man.
13:45
@Simon Are they salty?
@DavidFreitag Yes!
@Simon Don't forget to search your teeth for hairs later.
wat
These nuts are hairless, they're respectful.
@Simon Shaved? Nice. Always good to see some manscaping.
om nom nom
13:48
Well. This conversation took a turn for the awkward.
@ScottPack It's me and @Simon, what could you have possibly expected.
I'm definitely gonna tell girls that I'm into nuts on the first date.
They gotta know.
@ScottPack I didn't mean to scare you.
Man, this whole getting to work before 11am thing is getting really old.
wat
@Simon Eh?
13:56
@ScottPack I'm so sorry.
@Simon I don't usually get to work until almost 11:30 usually.
@DavidFreitag Dayum, that's late.
There's the Canadian we've been waiting for!
@Simon Meh
Fuck.
13:57
Out of nuts?
Yes but no, I fuck'd at what Mr. Pack said.
Man that nut was HUUUUUGE.
Did I put it in my mouth in one go? Yes m'am I did.
NUTS NUTS NUTS NUTS
@ScottPack Wanna meet up?
@DavidFreitag Can I get a warning next time before I click?
@Simon I'm sorry, did i cc you?
14:03
@Simon You're too far north.
@ScottPack But he does have a car.
LE CAR
Of course, it would take a while to get here between all of the apologies.
Oh nah man, I'm a beast on the road.
I get very angry.
An angry Canadian? That's just about the most contradictory statement i have ever heard.
14:08
nou
@DavidFreitag French Canadian.
@ScottPack Yes, but still.
Now that I think about it, French and Canadian is a paradox.
@Simon Welcome to Canada, eh.
le thanks
@DavidFreitag Loooooooooool Dexter noob
14:15
@Simon Every time i see that episode i get uncontrollably angry.
It had to happen though.
I'm not really sure why.
I haven't seen a single episode past that one. She was literally the only reason i watched that show.. and that I'm also not sure why.
Yeah that's weird because she doesn't do much as far as I remember, lulz.
14:30
This place is a damn ghost town again this morning.
'afternoon
mornin'
@Stephane +1
@Simon -1
@DavidFreitag @ScottPack Back me up here m8s.
@Simon -1
14:34
@Simon eh?
.
Silly Americans.
indeed :)
@Simon I'm sorry, who is trying to spell with numbers?
wat
o
It is, in fact, morning.
14:35
@ScottPack Thank you sir.
9:35ish.
@ScottPack Not outside my window
But I'll admit it's a question of perspective
For instance, if you're on the ISS, you can be morning about once every two hours
@Stephane I refer you to the accepted convention of EST5EDT being accepted as the canonical time zone for all things chat.
@ScottPack I certainly wouldn't refer to that
Gotta love form validators with no null checks. Lets have all the exceptions!
14:40
@Stephane Violate standards at your own risk!
convention != standard
Oh yeah? Well... your face.
@Stephane Useless use of pedantry.
@ScottPack Possibly. Yet, in this case, relevant
So's your face.
14:43
My face is the prettiest though, I think we all agree.
aaaaaand an unsurprising lack of agreement.
:(
At least I'm glad that everyone agrees that it's morning right now.
It's afternoon, though
@copy You're a terrible person.
14:53
^^
@ScottPack Put it this way there's one place in the world with a big "this is the reference point for time" going through it... and that's greenwich
@RoryMcCune No, it's America.
@Simon +1
With all the gravitational force generated by us Americans, we are the center.
Such a narrow view of things...
@Simon I'm afraid your government disagree en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenwich_Mean_Time
Canada: Interpretation Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. I-21, section 35(1).[
14:55
@Stephane Americans? With a narrow view of the world? Don't be silly.
@RoryMcCune You would say that. The English Empire is over and done with son.
@RoryMcCune IIRC, my government is against abortion. He's not a reference.
@ScottPack well there's never been one of those... the british emipre tho' :op
@RoryMcCune Revisionist history.
@ScottPack not so much as you'd notice, act of union 1707, before most of the empire stuff got done :)
15:00
@ScottPack Let's start a revolution. Our goal: make the rest of the world use our timezone.
@Simon Yeah, you'll definitely need someone non-Canadian to get that one done.
@DavidFreitag Well duh.
15:21
Hmm sore throat. Better chug a few gallons of orange juice at lunch...
Never a good sign.
ahahahaha.
Margin="168,11,184.061,0" in a wpf Border.
Because that extra 0.061 is going to help something.
in b4 it actually does
That probably isn't even one pixel of movement on a 1920x1080 display.
@DavidFreitag Tell me if you like this: youtube.com/watch?v=vRarKA_Gm4k
15:26
According to Microsoft the units are a device-independent unit (1/96th inch) measurement
@Simon This is what i am listening to right now. Not much can measure up. youtube.com/…
That's Hard Trance. The beginning is very Hardstyle-like because he's a Hardstyle producer. The climax is missing the kick which makes it not Hardstyle at all.
@DavidFreitag Yeah, that's pretty fast.
@Simon That's slow for those guys though.
@Simon Nupe can't stand it. It might be because I'm not in the mood for electric.
Could be.
That song, however, is one of their long ones. 8:16.
le long
15:29
Lé awesome.
That's what she never says to me :(
>_< sigh
TIL installing the Android version of the @WindowsAzure MFA app from Ti Backup ruins activation and prevents reactivation.
Morning @RoryAlsop @AbeMiessler
@ScottPack hahaha! That's great.
Hahahahaha - afternoon <correct canonical timezone ftw>
15:30
nooooooooooo
We just went through this about an hour ago!
Morning
How did you sleep @Simon?
@ScottPack Is that this application? play.google.com/store/apps/…
@AbeMiessler Not enough, as usual because I'm silly. How about you?
@DavidFreitag I think I had about 3.5 hours of log review and research in before thinking, "I installed this app from my backup set. Maybe I should just reinstall it fresh."
@DavidFreitag Yeah
15:33
@ScottPack So, it ruins the device's activation?
Where's @copy and @paste?
@DavidFreitag Yeah. I had activated the app and then reinstalled my phone restoring most of my apps from the backup set.
@ScottPack Rooted?
in The Observatory, 2 mins ago, by Realz Slaw
@Undo where is Redo :P
@Undo Hi @undo
15:34
@DavidFreitag Whenever it tried to invoke the second factor I never got the notification. Thinking something got borked there I deactivated it both client and server side, and then attempted to reactivate.
You can't undo me, however
Oy @copy :)
That wasn't working so I started the troubleshooting process. We don't have a significant population of users using the app yet so it was largely just me.
@DavidFreitag Then, just before contacting support, I wondered if the restore missed something else and did a fresh install.
@ScottPack So, let me get this straight. You are talking about losing your contract activation? Or does this have something to do with the Azure MFA side of things?
@copy I hope you do realize that without @paste, you are useless and that @undo has the ability to completely wipe out everything that was @paste'd.
15:37
@copy At least, not on Linux.
@DavidFreitag Just authenticating my own user account. The app is effectively a soft token.
@ScottPack Ah, i see. I thought you were saying you lost your activation from Verizon. That would be seriously nutty.
@DavidFreitag Ah, sorry no. Activation is the Microsoft Azure Multi-Factor Authentication (née PhoneFactor) terminology for enabling the soft token phone app for your account.
@ScottPack I knew you were French.
@ScottPack I have noticed quite a lot of application specific apps that break pretty hardcore when you try to restore them using Titanium backup.
15:41
@AbeMiessler y u no le sleep well?
Are you using the free or the paid version, @ScottPack?
@DavidFreitag In the past I definitely noticed that. This time this is the only thing that's borked on me.
Well, hopefully this will inspire you to do more regular backups with clockworkmod :p
@DavidFreitag Paid. You don't get access to the mobile app with the free version. At least not when using it on premise. I don't know about if you're using it with an Azure instance.
@DavidFreitag Clockwork just does the nandroid backups, yes?
@ScottPack I meant titanium backup, sorry
@ScottPack You can do a full backup iirc
15:44
Oh, no, just the free version of Titanium.
> CWM backups are full system backups, so they restore it to exactly how it was when you took a backup. Everything including apps, settings, preferences, even call log is saved.
I actually have Ti set to backup twice a week and then nightly an rsync job copies the sd contents over to my file server.
CWM is a charm.
Generally when I'm restoring it's because I've switched ROMs in which case I just want apps and app data.
@ScottPack You may want to invest in the paid version. iirc, there are places that Ti free won't backup unless you pay them.
15:46
It doesn't back up the kernel though, right?
Besides, the $6.58 is totally worth it.
@Simon Everything.
Probably, but the only thing I've seen that I want and the paid version gets me is more than twice weekly backups.
@DavidFreitag I wouldn't mind to pay $6.50 but $6.58 sounds a bit pricey to me.
@Simon Well, it makes sense. It's 138818.26 dong.
@DavidFreitag Best currency ever.
15:50
"dong" you say?
@AbeMiessler Vietnam
Yet another reason to visit
@AbeMiessler I'd be the asshole who laughs every time he pays.
1 USD is 21097.00 VND
15:52
dongs are pretty much worthless
They're pretty cheap, yeah.
Lé me paying for a sandwich: I'll just unload this box truck for you.
Yeah seriously.
You could probably eat the paper it's printed on and get more nourishment than you could buy with it.
Also, I almost created a file named: rptDong.php and I'm not kidding.
15:54
unless they have like 20000 VND notes or something...
I remember seeing a newspaper from post-WWI that showed German children making forts out of stacks of money because inflation was so bad.
Something like wheelbarrows of cash to buy a loaf of bread.
Luckily counterfeiting was much easier back then.
I'm giving @Simon's mom 20,000 dongs for xmas
15:55
@AbeMiessler I'm sure she'll appreciate it.
@AbeMiessler Again?
Enough to buy a sandwich or something
Well, that's going to need some context.
Aw man, you mean i can't overclock my Logitec Revue? Pfft.
What is this "QOTW Author Selection"?
@copy @paste@undo - where is @cut ???
16:02
@AbeMiessler Question of the week
And @redo?
AKA ignore it.
heh, got it
Oh hai, @Undo
Please don't undo me. :(
@paste Wouldn't dream of it.
I love finding the album that you are in the perfect mood for.
16:19
bitcoin miner arrived today
this'll be interesting/depressing
lul
in other news, it turns out women have a thing called an eyebrow brush. I was updated: uk.movember.com/mospace/4957109
Wouldn't a full beard and forehead covering eyebrows be a survival trait for an Orky?
Nah - they'd get blown off
wind trumps rain
Furrymuff
Can I presume you people saw this?
Rammstein style coding :-) http://t.co/gedhDlPLUI
16:42
Just caught Thor. Great movie!
Catching a super hero sure sounds like it would be a great movie.
the second one @TerryChia?
@deed02392 Indeed.
rimshot
@ScottPack haha, nice
16:48
I only managed the first few minutes of the first one. It was so phantasmagorical I couldn't get into it
I guess I need to know more about Marvel stuff to appreciate it
@deed02392 Fantastic game.
@deed02392 Frankly, I don't follow the comics.
The first one wasn't that great, but the second one is awesome.
One of the top marvel movies imo.
The Cinematic Universe has it's own continuity and canon.
@TerryChia I'll have to watch the second one then.
Does anyone here know anything about XAML?
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