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Watching NCIS for the first time ever. They're tracking a hacker by his "cryptography key." This is awesome-sauce.
@Xander Just until they write a VBscript to track the perp using their IP as they transit the subscriber rail.
@ScottPack Apparently it's a digital signature that follows you everywhere on the 'net, whether you like it or not.
And apparently your secure phone is completely compromised once your teenage daughter's hacked phone connects to your home wifi. It's really amazing technology. Oh, these precocious little hackers are such scamps!
Thankfully, their cryptographic key lets you know exactly what alley they're sitting in, as soon as they connect to the Internet.
You don't have to connect to the Internet. That's just what they want you to think.
01:40
@ScottPack It's like they don't even try. This is possibly worse than a Dan Brown attempt at technology. It's random terms thrown into an ostensibly unrelated plot.
@Xander When i watch anything on television, i always turn the intelligent part of my brain off. Especially for "The Big Bang Theory" which i hate with a fiery burning passion.
Ha! The hacker hacked the other hacker's phone by asking her to watch a hilarious video (that wasn't that funny) in his car with wifi!
@DavidFreitag I love The Big Bang Theory. It's funny.
@Xander It has its moments, but for the most part it makes me want to burn my television.
God, Donna is the worst companion in Dr. Who history.
@Xander Ever watch 24?
@DavidFreitag Wot.
@ScottPack Yes! I own the whole series on DVD, but I've only watched Season 1, the start of Season 2, all of Season 7, and most of Season 8 so far. Great fun. Lots of good handgun-craft.
01:56
The technology bits of 24 are roughly as terrible.
The technology-bits....Become more and more plausible, the more we find out about what the NSA has been doing.
Oh, I never much argued with the capabilities of some of the things they said existed, what I thought were ridiculous was the technobabble they used to do things.
@ScottPack I can't remember how terribly they're scripted. I'm sure it's awful. I only remember the implausible access they had to every electronic system on earth.
And the "Send it to my screen!"
I always thought that was pretty cool.
@ScottPack Ha ha ha. Wouldn't that be nice.
01:59
It's like their entire office uses a single X11 server with Xinerama with MAC extensions.
I was glad to see her leave.
 
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05:48
who's still awake?
Welcome to ... the dead zone.
06:05
It's the new convergent.io ... but better
^---- star that.
06:26
@makerofthings7 so it's what... a browser extension?
07:13
@ScottPack oh yes, I agree. Sorry I missed the donna bashing.
07:45
@AviD - sounds like a @Simon-like euphemism..
morning all - that was another interesting transcript.I quite like the opportunity to get in to work, and over coffee read the burgeoning romance between @Simon and @Kalina. This is better than TV shows :-)
@RoryAlsop s/better than/as crappy as/
hmmm - good point. Although I have started watching Defiance - and I like it, despite its flaws
 
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09:13
What happens when everyone answers a question correctly before the Bear reaches it:
09:56
gizmodo.com/man-forgets-about-buying-27-of-bitcoin-is-now-worth-a-1454150399
 
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11:49
is it correct to say "UDP vs. TCP/IP" when making a comparison?
I would have thought UDP is part of IP too so either you should be saying "UDP/IP vs. TCP/IP" or simply "UDP vs. TCP"
@deed02392 Not really imo... TCP/IP is usually used when compared against the OSI structure.
Indeed
this is a naughty document
@deed02392 Whereas UDP and TCP are merely one of many protocols in the transport layer.
exactly
Also, who gives a damn if I can understand what you mean. :P
11:55
it's not what i've written it's in a doc i came across
and I thought maybe there's something I'm missing then
@RoryAlsop this isn't romance, I'm luring him in before I murder him
@AviD According to LinkedIn, you need an email @security.stackexchange.com. They send you a confirmation email there.
@tylerl Meh. Just like I passed you the first time, I'll do it again. Don't worry :D
afternoon
@LucasKauffman Afternoon, love.
what's up Adnan?
12:09
his face
since the day of his birth
@deed02392 Only if you say UDP/IP as well.
yes agreed @ScottPack
you should say both with /IP or neither
@LucasKauffman Dude, something happened this morning. It's so fucking funny. I'm not sure if I can say it here, though.
@deed02392 And, as Terry said, there are gobs of transport protocols.
Hell, I would be willing to accept ICMP/IP. It's a bit weird in that it's both transport and application, but it helps frame the whole discussion.
@LucasKauffman Other than that, nothing special. My OSCP account expired :(
12:11
i know i literally just thought there was something off about saying UDP and TCP/IP in the same breath, and wanted to confirm my suspicions
"encrypted passwords". SIGH
I'm willing to accept journalistic missteps for comments like that.
@deed02392 You know what. That's not nearly the most outrageous phrase I read in a news article related to IT.
Actually, sighing at this is somewhat ridiculous.
it's the BBC
@deed02392 Still.
I'm paying for these articles
12:25
What I'd find sigh-worthy is when Adobe turn out to be using SHA-1 to hash their passwords
@deed02392 Sorry, still ridiculous.
well you're entitled to your wrong opinion :P
@deed02392 Nobody is expecting the BBC to teach you what a hash function is
If you are, you're just naive.
it's on the technology section
there are plenty of more appropriate words to use than 'encrypted'
@deed02392 Actually, 'encrypted' is pretty alright.
anyway, entertain me, what are the worst blunders you've seen
12:27
I'd also accept 'mangled'
@deed02392 Why? It looked free to me.
obfuscated, secured
@ScottPack Taxes
@deed02392 Exactly. All of that is okay, just like 'encrypted'
@ScottPack I pay taxes for the news channel YLE.
12:28
@Adnan Phaw. If I got upset over every one of my tax dollars that was wasted I would be a blithering pile of rage from sundown to next century's sunset.
@ScottPack Well, it's the U.S. Nobody really expect the government to actually handle taxpayers' money in a good fashion.
@Adnan what are the worst blunders you've seen
@RoryAlsop One day, we'll get married. You'll be invited to the wedding.
@deed02392 But, honestly. You go to the BBC to learn about news. You hear that Adobe was hacked. Good. Then you go to some more specialized blog to read on how the passwords were 'hashed'.
@Adnan :(
@Adnan what happened
12:31
@RoryAlsop Jeebus Rory. How far behind on the twitters are you?
I'm on skype btw
@deed02392 Just a second. I'm still expressing my opinion in your ridiculous opinion :D
@LucasKauffman So. Chatroulette?
@ScottPack what?
Face it, @deed02392. None of us are concerned about that single word.
@LucasKauffman It's a videochat program where you get connected to random people. I'm sure you can guess what it's like.
12:32
I faced it, I accepted it, I've moved on
Life is too short to argue about whether encryption is the right word to use in the context of a random article about passwords.
@ScottPack Oh he knows what it is, he's one of those dudes who goes on it naked.
We could spend the time dissing @Simon instead.
@TerryChia :*
@TerryChia +1
12:33
@TerryChia and :* for that one too
Life's too short to not laugh at me.
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@Simon And by "one of them" you mean "all of them".
@Simon That's what she said about your ahem as well.
@ScottPack Yeah, unfortunately.
@deed02392 Really. You're +1ing @Terry, and you're the one who started it. Jesus!
12:34
what? I tried to end it!
@Simon Except for Ben Folds. Sometimes he would do segments during his concerts where he chatrouletted people and would sing to them.
@ScottPack sausage fest?
@Simon With his llama as well probably.
@ScottPack That's funny. He probably sang to many dicks.
@TerryChia Ewwwwwwwwwwww.
"kann ich dein schwanz sehen" was about as far as I got with chatroulette
@ScottPack at wurk soz
@Simon That's sad. You seriously need to watch it.
@ScottPack Alright, I'll click on it to make it appear in my YT history.
OH, Merton!
I watched his very first videos.
Where he would ask people what song they wanted to hear and he'd play it on his piano.
@deed02392 Viileä tarina, veliseni.
I can believe it. Dude's real fun to watch.
12:37
@deed02392 Now you know more Finnish :D
It's actually a very ridiculous translation from English
真棒
mita vittua kaveri
@deed02392 Well, according to Google, this says 'zen bang'. It must be good.
zhen*
@deed02392 Hahahahahehe!! Who's teaching you those vulgar phrases? :D
minun kulta
12:41
@deed02392 You can use regular spoken language and say 'mun kulta'.
i am aware of this ability
i thought minun was more appropriate for this formal environment
i am trying to exercise a modicum of civility
@deed02392 Then you should have said Minun kultani.
well shit :D
@deed02392 Also, I don't trust people who don't capitalize their I's.
I could almost swear we had a dupe of this one
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Q: What are the risks of setting a cookie to have a more global scope?

KratosIf I have a subdomain, and I set my cookie's scope to be / instead of examp.example.com. How can it be insecure?

you have trust issues
you should pick a better CA
12:45
Oh, somebody posted it in the comments
@Simon Here's another one. I think it's funnier. youtu.be/0bBkuFqKsd0
@ScottPack I want to be cool like that on Chatroulette :(
Anybody here has 10K at English.SE?
13:04
@Scott - I only open twitter if I see a notification icon. It's not something I find easy to use - remember I'm older
@Adnan - nope, only halfway there...
@RoryAlsop I'm surprised you responded to that thumb comment. That was quite a long time ago.
I saw something that had your name. So I clicked on your profile, then scrolled down a couple of pages until I saw it and thought to myself - Hell Yeah! or something similar :-)
@roryalsop TERRIBLY so! I don't even remember life BR (before Rory). ;)
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hahahaha
we miss @Aarthi
@Adnan i've learned finnish from some obscure places
"taysravintoa kisoille"
jAnistA
@RoryAlsop Yeah, she's cool. Although I didn't see her much since I only spend time here.
13:37
13:37 o'clock
@RoryAlsop Is she the one who used to bring cookies & hugs? I miss those.
@Iszi - yep, cookies and hugs, and (ponies and rainbows @kalina)
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Q: Is this a possible solution to the impractical requirements of using a One Time Pad?

SamFor the sake of example, lets say there are two people named, Bob, and Jim. The Problem Bob wants to send Jim a long secret message, and he decides to use a OTP to encrypt his message. Both Bob and Jim know a secret password but it's only 8 character long, so they can't use this to encrypt the...

why do people always think they can solve long standing traditional problems with some simple trick
@ManishEarth wouldn't that imply that we had taste at some point in the past if we are trying to keep it there?
13:46
@AJHenderson I think this every time I see that star
@AJHenderson hahaha
Well, like Iszi said, it's more tasteless than it used to be
I blame everybody else
I am always very tasteful
Then again, once these dudes pinned me saying the penis word. :O
"the penis word"
...penis?
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Q: How to find vurnerability in Google, facebook and yahoo or any other site?

Naresh ChandraHow to find the vulnerability links in the all the websites such as google facebook and yahoo. and all the websites ?

excellent
13:49
@deed02392 I'm not allowed to downvote yet :(
I should submit some edits so I have 125 rep so I can downvote all the things
@deed02392 I disagree with the close vote for "Unclear what you are asking".
It's very clear what he is asking.
@TerryChia What other reason would you choose?
Fuck! "Too broad" is much better.
You're right
@Adnan ;)
i can't see flags
13:54
@deed02392 Get to 3k here. :P
IMPOSSIBLE
@deed02392 nah, they even let me make 10k
@deed02392 Go to Sweden.
still not sure how that happened
heh
Sweden, what?
13:55
though I believe masochism may have been involved
@deed02392 Oh, I thought you said 'fags'.
.. ¬_¬
@deed02392 But, really, to see flags here you need 10k.
Close votes, 3k
Close votes on your questions, 250 (IIRC)
Unless you mean chat flags in which case you just need 10k system wide.
@deed02392 I'm sure 'sun kulta' already told you how everybody in Finland hates Sweden.
13:57
i'm on 813
haha, @Adnan she's actually quite fond of Sweden
@deed02392 Aha! So she's a Swedish-speaking Finn!!
A SPY!!!!
i'm not really with her now anyway
she says 'samma har' a lot
I'll never get more than 1k rep on here
@deed02392 Typical Swedish-speaking Finn!
@deed02392 Did she dress nicely?
no not really @Adnan haha! i feel mean saying that
14:01
@deed02392 Then she's either fat or a Finnish Finn.
and, please, don't feel bad about it. That's not mean at all.
@kalina Not if you continue to never answer or ask anything, no.
@ScottPack I know nothing about the subject this stack exchange is about
@kalina See, that's where you are wrong.
nope
@kalina you are a developer right?
14:02
This mindset will get you tons of rep.
Welcome to the club!
@LucasKauffman also nope
Just ask stupid, obvious questions.
anything related to information?
meh
14:03
It's worked for @Adnan.
@Adnan she is a Finnish Finn, then
I have no problem helping clean and tidy any stack exchange, I just cba generating the reputation required to do it without queues
Our queueueueueueueueueueues are mostly empty.
after being #1 in all queues on Arqade before I had my account deleted, I'm now back in the top 20 in all queues again now
> With Cyclone Apple is in a completely different league. As far as I can tell, peak issue width of Cyclone is 6 instructions. That’s at least 2x the width of Swift and Krait, and at best more than 3x the width depending on instruction mix. Limitations on co-issuing FP and integer math have also been lifted as you can run up to four integer adds and two FP adds in parallel. You can also perform up to two loads or stores per clock.
Dayum.
14:05
blatantly going to steal site first gold badges again
@TerryChia I'm actually so unsure about what this site is for, I wouldn't even be able to ask stupid questions without researching what's on topic here
and using questions to get reputation is a pain in the ass
the only real way to get reputation is answering
@kalina I have seen some net 3k rep from a single question.
Or maybe 2k. Can't remember.
@TerryChia there isn't a single question on the site that meets this criteria
2k there is one question
don't try and tempt me with a statistical anomaly
I personally have a question that if it had been more spread out would have gotten me 2600 rep
but as it was, it was not spread out enough so I probably only got a thousand or so
14:23
reading documentation is SO BORING argh
@deed02392 Take a dive into source code if it's available. Much more fun. :P
hehe yeah I would but to be fair this is for a project with millions of lines
@deed02392 Writing it is even worse.
i've just come from doing that @ScottPack
finished work on one project, wrote all the documentation. now in a new project, have to read about it
@TerryChia I'm not sure that is always true
14:27
So I've just started getting boatloads of vendor emails. Is there a conference just ending or starting?
though I suppose if the code is that bad, the documentation is almost certainly worse
err Google on the 5th @ScottPack?
@ScottPack You mean you're not constantly getting a boatload of vendor emails? Lucky duck.
@Xander I do, but they come in faster just before and just after conferences.
@ScottPack Ah, interesting trend.
14:31
Dat moment where your friend asks you to monitor his laptop which gives you a perfect excuse to program a keylogger.
I'm such a kid, I get excited over silly things.
@Simon curiosity killed the cat
@deed02392 Well, since it's about his gf and considering that I dumped my ex before she would actually cheat on me, I'm all about it bro.
blah blah
if he can't trust her and she can't reassure him, just dump her
invading her privacy is not a solution
That's your opinion/relationship philosophy. Hiding stuff from the other person in a relationship is not ok to me.
I believe that the point of having a significant other is to actually be able to tell him/her everything.
of course it is, but already your friend is not telling her he's spying on her. and since he's not being FORCED to be in a relationship with her, seems pretty straightforward he should just end it
14:45
@Simon So you give out your facebook and email passwords when you start dating someone, I presume?
@ScottPack actually, my wife knew my facebook and e-mail password when we were dating, not first date, but for a lot of the time we were dating.
My spouse has access to all that stuff. It's in my keepass in the safety deposit box with instructions on how to access it.
@ScottPack I think 4 or 5 of my friends know my Facebook password actually...
Does InfoSec reactions have a site for videos?
This is describes firewall I'm dealing with now: youtube.com/watch?v=E34HE-iB4Gw
@TerryChia yeah, I was also going to say, I trust facebook about as far as I can throw them so I have my lowest security password on there. I don't give it out willy nilly, but if the hash file ever leaked, it would be broken in all of about 10 seconds
14:54
(at the 49 second mark)
@AJHenderson My Facebook password is 20 randomly generated characters actually.
I simply trust my friends.
yeah, I simply don't care if someone broke in to my facebook, the worst they could do is spam my friends and none of them would believe it was me
@Simon consider how guilty he will feel if it turns out she isn't hiding anything. what a violation that would have been, and then the hypocrisy in not telling her what he did
and I might or might not be mildly annoyed if they removed all my friends
@deed02392 and there is the real trick of spying. If you have a suspicion, the best bet is just ask about it
exactly @AJHenderson there are no two ways about it, spying on a spouse is totally irrational
14:58
So. Securityonion is weird.
Also terribly documented.
while they may not want to break it to a significant other if they are fooling around, generally if asked calmly about it, it will be much harder for them to lie unless they are truely pathological
it's most often a fear thing
so if you make it a non-threatening question, then they'll most likely get an honest answer
> But if instead of writing code you spend your time drawing pretty pictures of your scalable messaging middleware one more time, I will shove it up your enterprise service bus.
This is pretty funny.
anyone else having bad lag issues trying to use the site today?
I keep getting time outs and even the occasional maintenance page
@ScottPack Not my password, no. If he wants to browse my stuff, she will get access to it.
Holy hell! Bsides Columbus. Killer.
15:06
@AJHenderson Yup. Same.
@AJHenderson Thing is in the real world, people lie.
@AJHenderson Just got dropped for a while.
god damn i can smell gravy again
guy next to me eats gravy smelling crisps every afternoon.
not loving this new desk
yeah @AJHenderson
@Simon but ask the question behind that, why do people lie?
people lie primarily out of fear
particularly when relationships are involved
Of course. If I get cheated on and she wouldn't tell me because she's somewhat afraid that I will break up, it still doesn't justify the lie.
15:12
why does the guy want to lie to his gf about spying on her? because he is afraid. Why does someone cheating generally lie (by ommission) about it? because they are afraid of hurting their significant other. remove that fear and you can get an honest answer generally
what justifies you spying though @Simon
its' generally more a fear of causing hurt than getting a break up
if they are cheating, they aren't happy in the relationship and have another to go to
if they're not cheating, then you're now a hypocrite
@deed02392 even if they are you are
the end result doesn't matter
@deed02392 I'm not ashamed to say that I did look into my ex's stuff (no keylogged or anything that crazy) because she gave me reasons to believe that there was something wrong.
@deed02392 And if they are cheating, you're a winner.
15:14
but especially if they're not, because you can't even really continue an honest relationship, you just ruined it yourself
@Simon That's like saying I should kill every single person I dislike because they might be the next Hitler.
she gave you reasons to address your doubts, but I don't think spying is a reasonable method to address them
@deed02392 it does more harm if they didn't, but it doesn't make you any less a hypocrit
yeah I'll go with that @AJHenderson
@deed02392 Oh and I did ask her first and of course she lied about it.
What was I supposed to do?
15:15
did you ask her and then spy on her
What would be the reasonable method?
@deed02392 exactly, suspicions are something that need to be addressed for a relationship to remain healthy (which coincidentally is why it is good to not get upset if your actions make someone suspicious)
if you didn't believe her you should have just ended it
Sure did, sir.
@deed02392 I did that once I found out there was something wrong, yup.
@Simon I guess the question would be how did you go about asking her? You have to be careful how you go about asking questions like that if you want an honest answer
15:17
you're justifying it with hindsight
you think it's fine because you were right, she was lying/cheating. i'm trying to say you could have been wrong, then you would have been that lying, cheating person
you pretty much have to ask in a way that makes it clear you'd rather be hurt and know the truth than lied to and have your feelings protected and it has to be non-threatening. You have to be prepared to accept any answer without blowing up in their face and be able to sell that.
@AJHenderson Well, I would be selling a lie then.
@deed02392 It was a bet to take and I'm damn glad that I did take it.
@TerryChia You should kill every single person you dislike because you might be the next Hitler -- and thus you need training.
@ThomasPornin How hard can being Hitler be? Step 1) Grow awesome mustache Step 2) Find a few million mindless followers Step 3) ??? Step 4) Rule the world!
15:30
step 3 is sleep with your cousin, for those wondering
wat
@deed02392 Thanks! I would have failed without you!
16:03
Words build bridges into unexplored regions.
@ScottPack If I were in a relationship with you, I wouldn't spy on you.
You wouldn't have to. :(
@ScottPack Why the long face?!?
@ScottPack Bridges in unexplored regions are useless since nobody's there.
@Simon he said he'd build bridges to enable you to explore there, at which point you might find something good
@deed02392 You always ruin my fun, of course that's what he meant.
LAD.
16:22
@deed02392 Let's not forget, kiddos, that quote came from Hitler.
It came from you, silly.
I read that as Hitler's quote being, "You always ruin my fun" - which I kinda like :-)
@RoryAlsop What kind of like "I'd have had the run of this here continent, if it hadn't of been for you darn kids"?
@RoryAlsop So. We're in agreement that Hitler said to Goebbels "You always ruin my fun."?
I think it was "pesky" @RoryM
heh
16:35
oh sorry @Simon :D
@RoryAlsop meddling.
@ScottPack he wasn't really meddling, more just suggesting an alternate word...
@RoryMcCune No, I mean instead of pesky.
@ScottPack really, I would never have guessed ;op
I hate you all.
16:45
@ScottPack we hate you too <3
@ScottPack sorry sometimes I forget that you're american and therefore don't get sarcasm and subtle british humour :)
@ScottPack Even me?
@RoryMcCune I do so appreciate vahst amounts of dry humou?r.
17:18
@ScottPack I thought it was colourful humour
17:36
@ScottPack Don't be so hostile.
18:15
:(
:)
18:36
So i need some help here setting up Bugzilla.
I can access localhost/bugzilla now, but instead of running the perl script and giving me a page, it's just spitting out the perl into my browser.
cc: @tylerl @AviD
18:53
evenin (GMT) all
anyone come across this product before? atomicorp.com/products/asl.html
I'm guessing it would be right up @Simon and @Adnan 's street as the name acronym is ASL :op
@RoryMcCune They write "kernal". Should I need to say more ?
@ThomasPornin good point.
@ThomasPornin That's because it's all the kernels.
It has a pie chart. It must be good!
I wish I had pie.
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