The DMZ

tylerl

00:00

@AviD amazon.com/VTech-Tote-Laptop-Web-Connect/dp/B004T33JVG

Simon

@AviD It was A Pentium II with 350 MHz of RAM, sir.

AviD

sometimes we'll get crazy and pop one of the kids discs into the car stereo, and then we have to suffer through one direction or the like.

@tylerl haha, yeah!

David Freitag

@Simon 350 MHz of ram? lol think you might want to edit the stupid out of that.

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AviD

@DavidFreitag he cant! it says "Simon" on the side...

Simon

@DavidFreitag OH MY GOD, ROUGLY.

David Freitag

00:02

@AviD Very true. But he could at least try

Simon

We had 256 and added a 128 slip.

NOOBS.

AviD

@DavidFreitag he could try, but it would not work. probably.

David Freitag

@Simon I hope you're kidding. MHz (Megahertz) is not a measurement of memory capacity.

Simon

@DavidFreitag Fuck me.

WHATEVA

AviD

@Simon you keep asking.

Simon

00:02

It was in 99.

FUCKING MEGABYTES

AviD

@Simon yes, but you wrote that in 2013.

Simon

ARE YOU HAPPY NOW?

AviD

there, ftfy. happy?

Simon

wat

David Freitag

@Simon 350 Megahertz was likely the clock speed of the CPU. It may have been the bus frequency of the RAM, but i doubt it.

Simon

00:04

MEGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGAWIENERS.

AviD

woops, fixed it for @DavidFreitag

tylerl

@DavidFreitag Not likely. 33 MHz prolly if it's 1999.

AviD

@tylerl this.

David Freitag

@tylerl What for the CPU or the ram bus speed?

Pentium II

The Pentium II brand refers to Intel's sixth-generation microarchitecture ("P6") and x86-compatible microprocessors introduced on May 7, 1997. Containing 7.5 million transistors (27.4 million in the case of the mobile Dixon with 256 kB L2 cache), the Pentium II featured an improved version of the first P6-generation core of the Pentium Pro, which contained 5.5 million transistors. However, its L2 cache subsystem was a downgrade when compared to Pentium Pros. In early 1999, the Pentium II was superseded by the Pentium III. In 1998, Intel stratified the Pentium II family by releasing the ...

233-450MHz clock speeds bruh.

tylerl

@DavidFreitag I think the FSBs of 1999 ran at 33. then 66, then 100, then 133

David Freitag

00:06

@tylerl Yeah, i figured you meant the ram frequency. Just to make sure ;]

Simon

They see me failin', they nerdin'.

David Freitag

And Wikipedia has Pentium II FSB's at 66/100 depending on the model.

But yeah.

=O youtube.com/…

Really like the opener.

tylerl

03:55

sweet mercy, make that damn gif go away

Aaah.. yay for DOM editors.

Terry Chia

The transcript was.... interesting..

paste

I've been looking at the gif for an hour now.

tylerl

@TerryChia You noticed the little kerfuffle?

Terry Chia

8 hours ago, by Lucas Kauffman

@Adnan and @kalina can both of you please shake the sand out of your vaginas. Either ignore each other or be nice. Stop arguing. Now!

Can this be pinned?

@tylerl Yes, /sigh

@Simon being stupid about Mhz was funny though.

tylerl

@TerryChia It's got a bit more twisted meaning when one of them actually has one.

Terry Chia

03:58

@tylerl Heh.

tylerl

@paste that a new avie?

paste

Yeah, now I'm a cat.

Terry Chia

@paste Now we have two cats in The DMZ. This is getting out of hand.

tylerl

@TerryChia who's the other?

Terry Chia

@tylerl @AJHenderson. He hangs around at times.

paste

04:03

But he's a real cat.

AviD

06:19

@paste tiggers eat cats.

Any d-link owners here?

tylerl

@AviD i've got one here on my desk

AviD

@tylerl time to update...

tylerl

not sure if it's vulnerabile or not, but it's only acting like a local access point (not router)

AviD

or better yet, have fun with it.

tylerl

one of the few APs I own that I haven't soldered anything on to

AviD

06:31

heh

@tylerl youre up pretty early, arencha?

tylerl

you mean late?

11:30p

AviD

ah

heh

tylerl

which makes me think you must be up pretty early

AviD

naw man, I'm UTC+3.

at least till next week.

and I have a smaggle of little kids, so if I get to sleep soundly past dawn it's all good.

tylerl

Mine is one of the few sane localities in teh world

who doesn't change our clocks

AviD

06:33

no, @TerryChia's is - no changing clocks

@tylerl wait, what? In the US??

tylerl

AZ

AviD

I would hardly call that a sane place.

tylerl

oh?

AviD

I think thats the one state that tries hard to emulate Australia, which as we all know, is God's playground for creating weird shit to torment Hell with.

actually never been there, honestly have no idea... :-)

tylerl

Australia?

AviD

06:40

well, neither, actually - only heard 2nd and 3rd hand

tylerl

I'm not 100% certain australia actually exists.

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sounds pretty far-fetched to me

AviD

@tylerl heh, exactly.

Lucas Kauffman

@AviD kill it tiger security.stackexchange.com/questions/44363/…

tylerl

06:56

@AviD booo. Not vulnerable.

AviD

downgrade.

tylerl

this model is missing the backdoor feature

Adnan

09:06

I reeeeallly still want to know who went ape-shit with the flags yesterday.

In the @Simon incident, I flagged one of his messages only once, for fun, because his message contained a mention of flags.

Yesterday, I received more than 12 flags.

AviD

My reaction to the whole incident, for all involved:

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Adnan

@AviD But but but, tigger, this shows me that people on the Internet hate me :(

AviD

...

Adnan

I'm now just like @Kalina and @Simon

@AviD Oh, I was looking for more of a "WTF" reaction.

AviD

btw watching this now:

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just cuz.

> NASCAR is a sport that's easy to follow when you're hammered.

Adnan

09:15

Whoa! We're only 9 tags away from being eligible for the Generalist badge.

AviD

> Young lady, you look more delicious than mayonaaise ooozing out of a spaaaam sandwich.

Adnan

Two of those tags are xss and http

AviD

@Adnan two of the 9?

Adnan

@AviD Yup

I mean to say that those two tags are quite easier to fill than, say, certificate-authority

AviD

wait a sec, what tags needed why? I'm confused.

I remember there is some site requirements before that badge is activated, but dont remember.

Adnan

09:18

@AviD Go to security.stackexchange.com/tags

and check the last 2 rows

All the tags in this page need to have at least 200 questions

We still have 9 tags under 200

AviD

ah, found it. blog.stackoverflow.com/2010/05/generalist-badge-implemented

Adnan

xss and http are only 198 and 197

AviD

> there must be at least 200 questions in all 40 of the top tags before this badge is awarded to anyone

Adnan

So, basically, we're just 7 tags away.

AviD

@Adnan you mean 13.

@Adnan plus one row on the next page.

Adnan

09:22

@AviD God damn it!! I thought each page is 10 rows

TildalWave

good morning ladies!

and @Adnan

AviD

no, they do that just to screw with you.

Adnan

Well, F this, then.

We're still quite far

@TildalWave Morning

AviD

Adnan

Also, I've just checked, it seems that everybody with 10k+ rep is eligible for the Generalist badge.

Ah, I thought it would be more exclusive.

AviD

09:38

@Adnan well, as a site we are quite heavily tipped, rep-wise, towards the top few tags. So any high rep user is likely to have achieved a decent chunk of that rep, in those few top tags. Statistically, odds are good that would be the case, even if not definite.

it would be interesting to see the actual rep-achieved-ratio per tag.

hmm, it should be possible to do on data.se, just not simple at all.

Adnan

@AviD I'll have a crack at it tonight.

AviD

heh, good luck.

cripes, I'm going to have to debug your sql, aren't I.

Adnan

@AviD Yeaap

Actually, I've always wanted to know this. Apparently, up until the last Data.SE update, our site has a total of 2,883,998 rep points.

AviD

how did you calculate that?

per post, or per user?

Adnan

@AviD User

@AviD SELECT SUM(Reputation) FROM Users

AviD

09:44

cool. but that would not be useful in relation to tags.

Adnan

@AviD Oh no, I just wanted to know it

AviD

should probably calc that in relation to posts, but ignore bounties, accepted, rep loss for downvotes, etc.

@Adnan and @Thomas only has 30% of that.

hmm, actually this gets complicated - because you only have the final score per post, but dont know if there were downvotes there, so you cant calculate an accurate rep.

still, it would be interesting information. "the most profitable tags"...

Adnan

How much of the total site rep each of the top users own.

CodesInChaos

I'd subtract 101 from each user's rep

AviD

@CodesInChaos then you would need to subtract that from the total too.

@Adnan scool.

CodesInChaos

09:55

obviously

The whole idea is to avoid 101 rep users inflating the total

AviD

@CodesInChaos so ignore users that have 101 rep from the total.

Adnan

@CodesInChaos Incorrect. You're assuming that 100% of the users here came while having 125 rep on another site.

Many of the users came here and this was their first site.

CodesInChaos

It doesn't matter if it's the first site

it only matters if they have enough on any other site

AviD

@Adnan thought it was 200?

Adnan

> Incorrect. You're assuming that 100% of the users here came while having 125 rep on another site.

@AviD Correct, 200.

AviD

10:00

technically, you should also ignore the myriad of users with only 1 rep, too.

but include those who didnt get the assoc bonus, but gained exactly 100 rep...

Adnan

@AviD Nope. Everybody here started with 1 rep.

AviD

@Adnan I meant, exactly 1 rep right now.

Adnan

@AviD Still doesn't matter.

AviD

@Adnan it would if there were 10000 of them!

Adnan

@AviD Nope

CodesInChaos

10:02

When you exclude the first 101 points per user, the total is only 1246555

Adnan

Give everybody 1000 more rep, recalculate the totals -> you'll still have the same percentage

CodesInChaos

@Adnan It's enough if you earn it later

ManishEarth

@CodesInChaos just count the people with posts

AviD

its not about ignoring the rep, its about excluding those users.

@ManishEarth oh thats good.

Adnan

@ManishEarth You could still have 10 zero-scored posts and have your 101 assoc

AviD

10:03

posts with positive score.

CodesInChaos

I don't want to exclude those users, I want to exclude association bonus

SELECT SUM(IIF(Reputation>101,Reputation-101,0)) FROM Users

AviD

@CodesInChaos then youre excluding users with 65 rep.

CodesInChaos

hmm right

AviD

@ManishEarth's solution is best, and dont exclude the assoc bonus.

Adnan

@CodesInChaos I don't get it. You're still excluding users who didn't get association bonuses.

AviD

10:04

its trivial, anyway.

TildalWave

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Oh... NSFW and all that

CodesInChaos

Filtering assoc bonus roughtly halves the total rep

Adnan

@CodesInChaos Whoa! Query, please. Very interesting

AviD

@CodesInChaos and what is the effect if you filter users with no upvoted posts?

Adnan

Actually, I'd look to know the difference on the percentages

AviD

10:11

@CodesInChaos this could only be true if the number of bonus only users is huge. thus, filtering those, would have roughly the same effect.

and be more accurate (as far as %ages go).

TildalWave

Morning @RoryAlsop ;)

Rory Alsop

@TildalWave good morning

TildalWave

haven't seen you elsewhere (not in DMZ) in a while... you're keeping busy?

Rory Alsop

@TildalWave yeah - has been a bit busy, then I took the October long weekend away with the family - and had very poor connectivity

So I've been getting some modding, and a bit of chat, but not much time to think of answers

Adnan

@RoryAlsop I'd say the last part is a good thing

CodesInChaos

10:16

@Adnan Didn't find a perfect query yet. But some approximations:

`SELECT SUM(IIF(Reputation>=101,Reputation-101,Reputation-1)) FROM Users` returns `1327464`
`SELECT SUM(Reputation) FROM Users where reputation!=101` returns `1758353`

Rory Alsop

Been slowly getting my astronomy rep up though. It is ahead of Area51 now in my rep chart, and catching SF and SO

Adnan

@CodesInChaos The first is quite a huge difference.

TildalWave

@RoryAlsop yeah I don't have as much time either lately, even have a few of my answers marked by myself to rewrite (some questions changed or were later clarified)... one of these days... you know, this decade of thereabouts :)

Adnan

@RoryAlsop Oh, I meant, you know, family, less disturbance, more family time.

AviD

@Simon @DavidFreitag you wanted good music - this is pure awesome, perfect for background music while working. /cc @RoryAlsop

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11th has the best theme.

make sure you listen all the way till the end...

Rory Alsop

10:24

@AviD ten hours?

AviD

@RoryAlsop lol

its on loop

I have it playing off a different machine than the one I'm working on....

Rory Alsop

@AviD me too

AviD

makes me want to climb stuff.

TildalWave

Congrats @LucasKauffman !!!

Rory Alsop

@TildalWave it says there is video proof of beer drinking...?

TildalWave

10:31

hehe yes... we'll ask for our "proof" when he recoups from it LOL

he's now 100% proof himself prolly :)

And I probably landed on all intelligence agencies' lists for this CTF too, but hey ~ 50 points is worth it no? :D

all the countries we managed to send requests in from LOL

Adnan

@TildalWave What was the challenge here?

TildalWave

> This challenge is a special challenge. You can collect some minor extra points here by proving that you are a truly international player. Each time you visit your reference URL from a different country, that flag will be activated and you gain an additional point. You already have 108/222 points.

Adnan

@TildalWave Oh yeah, for loop and cURL on proxylist.txt :D

TildalWave

@Adnan yeah kinda like that... I did it manually tho, I couldn't be arsed to write a loop that would be mostly timeout ridden with dead proxies

ManishEarth

@TildalWave We got 108

TildalWave

10:46

OK semi-manually... I did a loop per each country that I fed it the list

@ManishEarth not all was from me tho, I came in late ;)

AviD

CA sucks.

ManishEarth

@TildalWave ah

in Security.SE CTF Team, 1 min ago, by ManishEarth

@LucasKauffman You may want to add a writeup of the effort that went into the beer vid :>

TildalWave

@ManishEarth So I'm not the only one on the NSA list now :D

ManishEarth

/me waiting for that

Adnan

@AviD Nooo! :O

TildalWave

10:49

@AviD hehe best anti-lawsuit disclaimer ever: "Copyright BBC I Donot own anything"

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