The DMZ

Simon

12:08

@Adnan wat

IT'S HAPPENING AGAIN, @ScottPack IS NOT HERE THIS MORNING.

Scott Pack

@TerryChia Yup, I finished my upgrade about 8ish hours ago.

@Simon Dude.

Simon

<3

Scott Pack

@TerryChia The annoying thing is that I can't figure out how to actually update Xcode. All it's trying to update is the documentation. Lame.

deed02392

Hello

Scott Pack

Yarr.

deed02392

12:14

How's it going

AviD

@ScottPack no, the annoying thing is @Simon.

Simon

@AviD beech pls

Scott Pack

@AviD Ok yes. Also that.

Simon

@ScottPack And you agree?!? Wow.

deed02392

What are we talking about?

It looks like people are referring to things I can't see?

Scott Pack

12:16

Well. This is frustrating. Other blokes told me they couldn't update Xcode 5.0.1 until after they upgrade to 10.9. Clearly I did it before. Inconsistency is the one truism.

Simon

@ScottPack Go MIA some more, you broke my heart.

Scott Pack

I was busy being awesome.

deed02392

Is this just a chat room a la IRC

lynks

@deed02392 nah just replying to old messages

deed02392

Oh all right

Cool :)

So like, airplane foo

d

How 'bout that

Scott Pack

12:18

Very much like irc, except a better interface and google indexed.

deed02392

And it ain't blocked at work

hooray

lynks

@ScottPack better interface? What client do you use?

I find chat.se pretty cumbersome

Simon

Great. Why nobody told me before that all the stupid shit I say is indexed?

4

Scott Pack

@lynks For irc I use irssi.

deed02392

@ScottPack hardcore

lynks

12:19

@Simon in a couple of weeks, googleing "stupid shit" will show Simon as a result.

deed02392

lol

Simon

@lynks That'd be quite awesome.

AviD

@lynks like when you look it up in a dictionary.

lynks

@ScottPack This is where we differ, irssi is a great interface, way better than this bulky web crud.

Xander

@Simon You're on the Interwebs. It should be obvious.

Simon

12:20

@AviD Start the photoshoping now because I want some proof.

@Xander Well, yeah. At least I'm not using my last name too because that'd be awkward.

kalina

@Simon oh yeah, chat gets indexed

just another reason I'm so secretive

Scott Pack

@lynks I think what I really like about this is that it's not me rejoining a session isn't as dependent on my SSH connection staying up, you can explicitly reply to specific messages, responses don't get lost during inactivity, and you can edit.

Simon

@kalina My wiener also gets indexed.

deed02392

but CLI > *

Simon

There we go, I'm doing it again.

I'm so not giving my SE profile if someone asks me for it in a job interview.

deed02392

12:22

yeah give up simon

Simon

@deed02392 LAD, I NEVER GIVE UP.

kalina

@Simon strange, I was under the impression google didn't bother with such trivial things

deed02392

Thing is about using stuff you've posted online with an employer

probably half of what you've said, you no longer agree with anyway

Simon

@kalina Dayum.

@deed02392 Oh of course but it is part of me anyway.

deed02392

My God I don't like how new comments come up bright green, that looks horrendous

completely screws with my eyes

kalina

12:24

what do you mean "bright green"

that only happens when you post new messages

deed02392

you don't see it appear in green then fade to black?

kalina

and it indicates attempt to confirm the message was received

lynks

@ScottPack yeah replying is good, that was always missing from irc. use screen to help with your ssh issues, and you can script irssi to do whatever you like, including say, appending responses to a file.

Simon

It lasts a second.

deed02392

well that's unfortunate because I'm posting a lot of new messages

kalina

12:24

they stay green if the message fails to send

well, sounds self inflicted to me

Simon

^

kalina

OH GOD IT HURTS SO MUCH WHEN I STAB MYSELF IN THE FACE

"stop doing it then"

Simon

So rude.

deed02392

Or, make the knife a paint brush and let it tickle instead?

kalina

what? Stabbing myself in the face?

deed02392

12:25

is there no way to prevent it showing green

kalina

It's my face, I can stab it if I want

Simon

@deed02392 Yes, building your own client.

kalina

@deed02392 probably something in the stylesheet

deed02392

this is bs, i'm modifying the css

Simon

I prefer my solution.

kalina

12:25

I prefer my unmentioned solution

Simon

Please.

kalina

"stop self inflicting harm on yourself"

lynks

@ScottPack ossowicki.com/?p=102

kalina

ie: stfu

Simon

What if he likes pain?

deed02392

12:26

you're so self-gratifying kalina

Simon

@deed02392 lulz

deed02392

so I enabled pretty print on the css with the chrome debugger

and it went from 1 line.. to 1 line

kalina

why yes I am, I have no choice, nobody else is skilled enough

Simon

@kalina Even though you seem to like harder stuff, please tell me that you RECOGNIZE that this melody is way too good: youtube.com/watch?v=lETmskoqh30

Auto-starred.

deed02392

that must make you hard to please in a relationship

kalina

12:28

relationship? is that one of those things where I give up lots of things I like to do and he gives up nothing he likes to do?

deed02392

argh, I said that after your last two lines

Scott Pack

@lynks I do use screen, but I don't like having to ssh back into another machine to start it back up whereas the webbased nature of this Just Works.

deed02392

probably kalina

if you're a cynic of the male species

Simon

LOL

kalina

also: stars denied

Simon

12:29

Bitch.

kalina

@Simon flagged as offensive

Scott Pack

Oh, woah. 10.9 puts the menu bar on both displays

That's...that's kind of cool.

Simon

@kalina Cool, we'll get kalina#2 in here.

kalina

@Simon there is only one kalina

lynks

@ScottPack what did you upgrade?

Simon

12:29

@kalina Nah. Like I said, you really sound like my ex.

Scott Pack

@lynks OSX 10.9 was released yesterday.

Simon

A lot.

kalina

@deed02392 I'm not a cynic, I'm realistic about the situation I find myself presented with

I expect nothing from men, because men can't do anything

Simon

@ScottPack My m8 wants to sell me his Macbook Pro for 800$, i7 8gb of RAM.

It's a legit as hell price.

lynks

@ScottPack ah. also, eww closed source os...

deed02392

12:31

i don't think it's possible to consider every variation you might find in a partner

lynks

@kalina you appear to have terrible taste in men

deed02392

similar to how you might say you're the smartest person in the world, when you don't know everyone maybe?

Simon

@deed02392 How's the queen doing?

deed02392

@simon stalker

kalina

@lynks men are just terrible

Simon

12:31

Haha.

kalina

however they're fun to set fire to

and I am perfectly ok with that

Simon

@kalina You just keep saying that because you hope that one day some dude will be like "oh le no-, is not le true-, me am le man-".

kalina

@Simon what do you mean "one day"?

lynks

@kalina I'd like to think my gf would disagree

Scott Pack

@lynks I've found it to be the most pleasant desktop OS for me to use. Closed or open doesn't really come into it.

kalina

12:33

I've already convinced plenty of guys that they should just kill themselves

Simon

Jesus.

kalina

none of them have ever actually carried it out

because that would make me feel bad

Simon

You're such a downer man.

deed02392

i'm not sure then it's defined as convincing them

kalina

but it certainly got rid of the attitude

deed02392

12:33

if they don't go through with it

Scott Pack

@Simon That sounds pretty not bad. I could upgrade the ram, just to git 'er dun, but it'll be ~100ish

lynks

@ScottPack I am super jealous of the trackpad gestures on my GFs air. Two finger swipe to go 'back' in safari is extremely smooth.

deed02392

you're a failure @kalina

kalina

@deed02392 I'm immune to your negativity

Simon

@ScottPack For 8 GB or 16?

deed02392

12:34

yet you felt the need to respond to it

lynks

And when you actually use the 'upside down' scrolling for a few mins, it starts to make perfect sense, dammit apple.

Scott Pack

@lynks I really think Apple has done the laptop right. The battery life is good, and they last a long time. The trackpads are simply amazing.

Fuck Natural Scrolling. First thing I change.

Simon

@kalina I'll let you know if I ever want to kill myself, I'd appreciate one of your speech to feel good about it.

kalina

@deed02392 IMMUNE

deed02392

muahahaha

oh what how many apple fans do we have in here

yuck

Scott Pack

12:35

@Simon Up it to 16. There's almost no reason not to. The price of ram is low enough and you'll probably actually get use out of it.

lynks

@ScottPack I am in two minds, but it goes well with the horizontal swipes.

kalina

@Simon Oh in your case I'd talk you out of it, I think the life long torture of being you is better than my momentary gratification from pushing you over the edge

Simon

@ScottPack Yeah, 8 GB is plenty.

deed02392

I'm still happy with 4 and I run a few VMs

kalina

@deed02392 I am not an apple fangirl

Simon

12:35

@kalina Haha. Translation: I like you.

Alright, alright.

kalina

I do own an iPad though

but I also have a HTC One

Scott Pack

@Simon I'm using 5.6GB right now with just Firefox running.

kalina

and I run Windows 8.1 on my main PC

Simon

@ScottPack Whoa, how many tabs?

kalina

LET THE MOCKING BEGIN

lynks

12:36

@Simon I run 8gb desktop-gui machines with no swap and no problems.

Scott Pack

@deed02392 I am not an Apple fanboi.

deed02392

ok this is good news @ScottPack @kalina

Scott Pack

@Simon ....bunches.

deed02392

i only have an iPod, which was a gift

Simon

@lynks Yeah. My laptop has 6 with Ubuntu and it's plenty.

Scott Pack

12:36

@Simon For whatever reason OSX has always used way more RAM than you think it should.

deed02392

i'd never part with my cash for an apple product

Simon

@ScottPack Surprising, I didn't know that.

kalina

All apple fanbois/girls need to realise that macs are basically pcs these days, so fundamentally they're retarded for purchasing a pc at a 150% markup

deed02392

given there isn't a product they do you can't get better value elsewhere for

Scott Pack

I like Apple as a desktop computing platform, but that's about it.

kalina

12:37

might as well brand all of them together though

Simon

Fuck, I think I really wanna buy the Macbook.

kalina

@Simon it's like being accepted into a group for the first time for you isn't it?

deed02392

you're wrong simon

Simon

He's the type of dude who always puts a sheet of paper under his phone if he puts it on a table.

lynks

I think a certain level of OS enlightenment occurs when one realises that OSs are tools; you pick the right one for the job. Same goes for programming languages. I use VMs a lot for this reason.

kalina

12:37

@Simon is the person who is going to make owning an Apple device "uncool"

Scott Pack

@kalina I've gone back and forth with work and the Macs are always usable about twice as long as the PCs and the OS is nicer to deal with.

Simon

@kalina Being accepted into a group? Oh, I form the groups my lady.

kalina

@ScottPack Windows 8.1 is fine

Simon

lulz windows

kalina

go ahead, mock

Scott Pack

12:38

@Simon I sit my Galaxy S3 on something soft, but that's just so that the vibrate doesn't loose the bolts holding the table together.

@kalina I really didn't like the Metro interface when I used it.

kalina

@ScottPack It's one of those things that you get used to, like the shift from Windows 3.x to 95

Scott Pack

@kalina I'm an old neckbeard, I didn't want to have to learn PS just so I could have a functional terminal either.

kalina

There is nothing actually wrong with metro

Simon

@ScottPack It vibrates that much? A girl I know gave me hers with a broken screen, maybe I should replace it and use it.

Scott Pack

@Simon It's damn near obscene.

Simon

12:39

Haha.

deed02392

woah

52.376552, 5.198303 on google maps

shows some guy dumping a body in a lake

kalina

while we're on the topic of things that vibrate...

deed02392

don't be obscene @kalina

Scott Pack

Go ahead. Try to shock me.

kalina

shock?

I don't do shock

Scott Pack

12:40

@deed02392 Oh yeah, that old gem. It's been disproven.

kalina

I was just going to say my htc one vibrates quite intensely

deed02392

oh really, what was it then @ScottPack?

Simon

@kalina Poor phone.

deed02392

my sgs2 vibrate is actually pretty broken

Scott Pack

@deed02392 A couple with a dog.

deed02392

12:41

what about the blood trail?

Simon

I own a SGS2 too.

lynks

@deed02392 I didn't know dildos had part numbers.

kalina

@Simon it's fine, it has a decent bumper wrapped around it, completely moisture proof

Scott Pack

@deed02392 You mean the wet wood?

Simon

@kalina COME ON.

deed02392

12:42

nice

AviD

I leave the room for a few minutes, and come back to find you lot discussing intensely vibrating items??

kalina

@Simon what?

@AviD no we're talking about phones

Simon

@kalina Even I wouldn't go that far.

kalina

get your mind out of the gutter

you sick sick people

deed02392

@AviD wtf

jeez

AviD

12:42

@kalina heh, well, you lot do set the expectations quite low.

Simon

Dayum.

kalina

@AviD I am so innocent that I can't express it in words

I was merely pointing out that the first time my phone vibrated I wasn't expecting it

Simon

blablabla

kalina

It's not like @Simon here, where the first thing he said after I said hi involved his penis

5

Simon

Awesome, I didn't know that.

deed02392

12:44

it was probably a statistical certainty anyway @kalina

Simon

Also, this will get indexed. Awesome.

@deed02392 HOI LAD, let's have a tea.

I'm mocking you but I like Brits.

Top Gear UK rocks, Top Gear USA is a piece of shit.

Scott Pack

@Simon Troof.

deed02392

i have no interest in cars

so top gear is boring

Simon

Oh lawd.

Scott Pack

Your face is boring.

lynks

12:46

Top Gear doesn't have a great deal to do with cars.

deed02392

unless we're talking about securing cars from bluetooth exploits

well i ain't in the market to impress you @ScottPack

so that's just fine

Scott Pack

@lynks Yeah, it's mostly about beautiful cinematography and 3 guys cocking about.

deed02392

all trying to give the impression it's not completely scripted

and doing a terrible job of that

Simon

Well, there are some times where it definitely can't be scripted.

e.g. The trip in Africa.

deed02392

jeremy is very annoying too

he just oozes annoying

Simon

12:48

Oh c'mon.

kalina

BORED

Simon

@kalina LISTEN TO SOME MUSIC, IDIOT.

deed02392

anyone here work in cyber security?

or information security/assurance

Simon

I do. I make sure that you're really talking to a girl online if she states that she is one.

AviD

@kalina I knew I liked you for some reason. Well, perhaps "like" is too strong a word.

Scott Pack

12:50

@AviD and I are both in zer cybers.

AviD

"willing to not set fire to... right now."

kalina

@AviD this is both a nice thing to say and you acting like a douche

in a single sentence

deed02392

seems to be a lot of hostility in here

Simon

@kalina Let's shuffle.

deed02392

faux hostility

kalina

12:52

this isn't hostility

deed02392

i wonder if it's all the sexual tension

lynks

@deed02392 older than time.

and false.

Simon

@deed02392 You're a faux French.

kalina

Simon is certainly sexually tense

deed02392

faux francois

kalina

12:52

just like all first timers

AviD

@kalina heh, I know, I'm talented, right?

Simon

@deed02392 Exactly.

@kalina Oh lawd.

deed02392

haha ouch @kalina

AviD

besides, if I were any nicer in this room, it would be incongruous.

deed02392

insincere

anyone know any good infosec quizzes online?

Simon

12:54

infosecquizzesonline.com

lynks

@deed02392 quizzes?

Simon

And there's infosecquizzesonlineforbrits.com

deed02392

also who designed the ad for this room?

lucida console is my favourite font ever

Simon

nurd

deed02392

derp

AviD

12:55

@deed02392 strange to ask that in here....

deed02392

ask what @AviD?

lynks

yeah...the answer is most of us.

Scott Pack

@lynks At one time it was the minority of us.

Simon

@ScottPack And now I actually am the minority.

QQ

deed02392

i'm talking about online multi choice questions or something

Simon

12:56

@deed02392 Did you know what we both have the same queen?

deed02392

like, which of these processes look dodgy

Simon

I bet you didn't.

lynks

@ScottPack I forget your memory spans aeons us mortals can hardly imagine.

kalina

@Simon you are a minority?

deed02392

malware has injected itself into a running process, what's its next step

lynks

12:57

@deed02392 don't know of anything like that. but there are plenty of 'hack me' things available.

Simon

@kalina A minority of awesome dudes.

Scott Pack

@lynks Old joke? Seriously.

kalina

Since I am rainbow dash, I am at least 20% more awesome than any of the rest of you individually

deed02392

rainbow dash? what

Simon

Die.

AviD

12:57

@ScottPack yeah, ha ha you are so old its funny... umm....

lynks

@ScottPack Immortality joke actually. That's a thing.

AviD

@lynks no, that's @RoryAlsop. There can be only one.

Simon

Alright, I'll give you guys a break. I have some things to get done.

See ya.

kalina

@deed02392 Yes.

^ rainbow dash

Scott Pack

She looks like a hipsters.

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