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Swapnil Das

1:35 AM

Good morning.

सुप्रभातम्

Huh so early.

@SwapnilDas 🙃 🙃 😉😉

2:20 AM

Laman || Bhole Baba || Official song || Folk Himachal || Shiva kailashon ke || Shankar Sankat Harna

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Beautifully sung by Laman 🤩🤩

@SwapnilDas @HinduKid सुप्रभातम्

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6:34 AM

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Q: What is the story of Rishika Vagambharni who had reached the stage of identifying herself with Devi through her Saadhana?

While chanting Devishukta of Rigveda (10.125) in recently past Navaratri time, I came to know about daughter of Ṛṣi Aṃbhṛṇa, named Vāk (also known as Vāk + Aṃbhṛṇa = Vāgāṃbhṛṇi). It is said that she sung this sukta in the exalted state of realizing identity with Devi. Similar thing is mentioned...

TheLittleNaruto

7:12 AM

@epic_math Welcome to Hinduism chatroom.

@Twinkle Will you join tonight's event?

epic_math

Hello!

TheLittleNaruto

Are you also a user on HSE?

Saw you in chatroom first time :)

epic_math

No, I haven't logged in yet.

I would login soon.

TheLittleNaruto

great :)

Any texts have you read already? @epic_math

epic_math

No... I started reading the Shiva Purana but couldn't continue.

TheLittleNaruto

7:17 AM

Oh that's great.

epic_math

I really like my religion.

TheLittleNaruto

So you're a Sanatani as well. :)

@epic_math When you join the site; please consider answering this question: hinduism.meta.stackexchange.com/q/967/647

hanugm

8:35 AM

@TheLittleNaruto what is the secret about Siddhasana?

baby did you die?

TheLittleNaruto

@hanugm Hi

hanugm

Hello

TheLittleNaruto

Hang on a second; I shall share a picture

hanugm

Yeah sure...

TheLittleNaruto

Hope you read the messages

hanugm

8:40 AM

Wow, great pics... I never recognise it...

Yeah....

@epic_math hello....

TheLittleNaruto

@hanugm Hope you have your answer now. :)

There is a secret meaning of that posture, but I'll leave that to you to figure out.

hanugm

Yeah, true... @TheLittleNaruto

Oh....

TheLittleNaruto

Hint: Sometimes experience is needed to learn something; theory alone won't be much of help. @hanugm

There is one more picture which will give you more clarity. But I would encourage you to experience it.

hanugm

Oh... @TheLittleNaruto I will try to decrypt it...

TheLittleNaruto

Experience the power of mother parashakti.

hanugm

9:04 AM

:-O

Swapnil Das

11:50 AM

Good evening.

HinduKid

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Swapnil Das

2:05 PM

Get ready guys.

TheLittleNaruto

@SwapnilDas ready for?

Swapnil Das

Event lol.

TheLittleNaruto

oh ok

We will discuss on verse 3 and 4 from Ishavasya Upanishad tonight.

Swapnil Das

Yup

@TheLittleNaruto 8 ppl have registered woah.

TheLittleNaruto

@SwapnilDas Really?

Swapnil Das

2:10 PM

yeah see.

TheLittleNaruto

That's nice

Swapnil Das

@TheLittleNaruto only when they come haha.

TheLittleNaruto

@SwapnilDas :D

Hope you're prepared for the event :P

Swapnil Das

@TheLittleNaruto Not at all lol. Have been sick all week, relying on you :P

@TheLittleNaruto Let your towering intellect shower the divine nectar of spiritual wisdom on us xD

TheLittleNaruto

@SwapnilDas @@

Not acceptable

Swapnil Das

2:13 PM

Why not.

TheLittleNaruto

@SwapnilDas Are you talking about the tower which gives correct navigation to landing flights in airports?

@SwapnilDas You'll have to start

Swapnil Das

@TheLittleNaruto No no I'm talking about the tower which is the abode of Garuda who resides near Vishnu.

TheLittleNaruto

@SwapnilDas oh ok ok! guess my mind is not elevated enough to understand your spiritual talks. :(

Swapnil Das

@TheLittleNaruto This is pure English lol.

TheLittleNaruto

BTW Did you try mustard oil thing I had suggested?

Swapnil Das

2:16 PM

@TheLittleNaruto Yes, it's working.

TheLittleNaruto

Superb

Swapnil Das

Yeah thanks.

@TheLittleNaruto Bhai Beijjati ho jaegi today you start no :P

TheLittleNaruto

Oct 29 at 16:41, by Swapnil Das

@HinduKid Say something bhai :P

I hope @HinduKid will participate this time

;)

@SwapnilDas Okay will do. :)

Swapnil Das

@TheLittleNaruto Yeah maybe he can give some insights on Tantrik Commentaries :P

TheLittleNaruto

@SwapnilDas lol

Swapnil Das

2:19 PM

Till I die I'll remind him of that comment lol.

TheLittleNaruto

@SwapnilDas We are not sure of @HinduKid gender, so use they/she for them.

Swapnil Das

@TheLittleNaruto I guess it's he. But anyway we'll ask 'them'.

TheLittleNaruto

Yes

Swapnil Das

@HinduKid Bro you are boy or girl? My bet is on boy.

TheLittleNaruto

@SwapnilDas lol you said "Bro" at the start. :D

Swapnil Das

2:25 PM

@TheLittleNaruto Which is why I bet on boy, simple :P

TheLittleNaruto

@SwapnilDas Okay! But just for your general knowledge; on internet since we won't know others gender, also it's not good to ask such personal info. So in such cases, "she/they" or "her/them" should be used.

Swapnil Das

@TheLittleNaruto Sure :)

TheLittleNaruto

@SwapnilDas :)

Swapnil Das

My Rahu again got me in trouble lol.

TheLittleNaruto

What happened now?

illness?

Swapnil Das

2:29 PM

No no. Not following internet rules haha.

TheLittleNaruto

Oh that's fine. We learn every day. :)

Swapnil Das

Yeah, but anyway, no sign of anyone except us here.

TheLittleNaruto

They will join at right time.

Swapnil Das

Hope so.

Swapnil Das

3:51 PM

Ding Ding.

@HinduKid One work for you. If you participate, please make the effort of copy pasting the Shloka with its English meaning. Kinda makes life easier.

HinduKid

Who am I?..
Im atma, Gender Less

😂 😂

Swapnil Das

@HinduKid Oh, Upanishad mood.

HinduKid

🙃 🙃 Im here, as Listener.. I dont know anything..
Ill just listen..

@SwapnilDas 🙃 🙃 😂

Swapnil Das

@HinduKid Arre Google search Isha Upanishad 3rd and 4th shloka, lazy fellow.

Whatever is there on earth paste it lol.

HinduKid

@SwapnilDas 🧐🧐🧐

Swapnil Das

3:56 PM

@HinduKid This way we can give you closing credits, and you'll get name fame power and authority xD

HinduKid

🤣 🤣 🤣

Baby Live

Swapnil Das

Haha.

TheLittleNaruto

4:09 PM

@HinduKid baby died. There won't be any reincarnation.

@SwapnilDas I'll be back in 20-30 minutes.

@SwapnilDas 😆😆😆😆😆

HinduKid

@TheLittleNaruto ☹️ ☹️ 😢 😥 😭 😭

Swapnil Das

4:27 PM

Hari om tat sat.

Namah Shivaya, let's start the event.

HinduKid

🙏 🙏

Swapnil Das

@HinduKid Do it, your majesty :P

HinduKid

असुर्या नाम ते लोका अंधेन तमसा वृताः।
Asûryâ nâma te lokâh andhena tamasâ vritâh,

ता स्ते प्रेत्याभिगछन्ति ये के चात्महनो जनाः ॥3॥
Tâgmste pretyâbhi-gacchanti ye ke câtma-hano janâh. (Isha 3).

"Sunless are those worlds, and enveloped in blindering gloom to which all those people , who are slayers of their own Souls go, departing from here".(Swami Chinmayananda)

Swapnil Das

So, here we go.

HinduKid

Soo..Explain?.. 🙏 🙏

Swapnil Das

4:31 PM

The first three shlokas of the Isha Vasya Upanishad point out three basic natures of a jeeva.

Sattvic, Rajasic, and this one Tamasic.

This particularly indicates a man, who commits something called Spiritual Suicide.

HinduKid

@SwapnilDas 😨 😱 😱 😱

Swapnil Das

It is the duty of every jeeva to undergo spiritual growth in every life.

Sometimes, it so much caught in moha, that he forgets his true purpose.

When he is in that state, he descends to 'Asurya Loka'.

HinduKid

🧐 🧐 surya?

Swapnil Das

This is because he didn't advance towards tamas, despite being given a glorious chance of being a human.

@HinduKid Yes, coming to that.

Now what is Asurya Loka.

Surya is basically the planetary representation of Sattva.

Because it burns itself, like a yogi in penance, and out of that provides to all.

So in a land, where there is no Surya, there is Sattva.

Here, it's also written that such people are 'Slayers of the Soul'

Though Soul can't really be slain..

It can always be forced to descend to lower states of knowledge.

HinduKid

@SwapnilDas 😢 😢 😢

Swapnil Das

4:38 PM

This shloka of the Upanishad, therefore, asks us to guard against this sin. For only a mad elephant soils himself with mud after he bathes in a pond.

As we have come to a state, where have enough knowledge for atmagyana..

we should always try to move ahead, never backward.

This is my understanding, thank you 🙏 🙏

HinduKid

@SwapnilDas Thank You.. 🙏 🙏

TheLittleNaruto

Sadhu! Sadhu!

Beautifully put

Swapnil Das

Thank you :)

If there are any questions or comments, please go ahead. Else, we can proceed.

TheLittleNaruto

Is 3rd verse over?

Swapnil Das

Yup.

TheLittleNaruto

4:42 PM

@SwapnilDas Yeah we can.

@HinduKid Please post the verse.

HinduKid

अनेजदैकं मनसो जवीयो नैनद्देवा आप्नुवन पूर्वमर्षत।

aneja-dekaM manaso javîyo, nainad-devâ âpnuvan- pûrva-marsat,

तद्धावतो न्यानत्येति तिष्ठत तस्मिन्नपो मातरिश्वा दधाति ॥4॥

tad-dhâvato-'nyâna-tyeti tisthat, tasmin-napo mâtarisHvâ dadhâti.( 4).

"The Self is the motionless one, swifter than the Mind, The devas (senses) could not overtake;It ran before before them. Sitting, It goes faster than than those who ran after It. By It ,Matarsiva(the element Air) supports the activity of all living beings"(Isha 4).(Swami Chinmayananda).

Swapnil Das

Thank you.

TheLittleNaruto

Another translation

> Unmoving, It is one, faster than the mind. The senses cannot reach It, for It proceeds ahead. Remaining static It overtakes others that run. On account of Its presence, Matarsiva (the wind) conducts the activities of beings. [4]

वह आत्मतत्व अविचलित, एक तथा मन से भी तीव्र गति वाला है । इसे इन्द्रियाँ प्राप्त नहीं कर सकतीं क्योंकि यह उन सबसे पहले है । वह स्थिर होते हुए भी सभी गतिशीलों का अतिक्रमण किये हुए है । उसी की सत्ता में ही वायु समस्त प्राणियों के प्रवृतिरूप कर्मों का विभाग करता है ॥४॥

Somebody explain this verse.

Swapnil Das

I haven't really meditated on it, because I started watching IPL but..

TheLittleNaruto

Think about it, Mind is faster than speed of light

Swapnil Das

4:45 PM

Yup.

This is basically an explanation of the nature of Brahman.

TheLittleNaruto

and even being unshaken like mind, how come it is faster than mind.

Swapnil Das

But again, it is static.

This is only possible when something all pervading (omni present).

TheLittleNaruto

@SwapnilDas Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Correct

Hence that atmatattva is compared as param tattva here in this verse.

Swapnil Das

@TheLittleNaruto Yes. Because when whole is negated from the whole, the whole only remains :)

TheLittleNaruto

@SwapnilDas haha shanti mantra

yeah true

Swapnil Das

4:49 PM

@TheLittleNaruto Yes, love that.

TheLittleNaruto

@SwapnilDas From this we can also make out that this world is not an illusion but the consciousness of Brahman himself.

Swapnil Das

I don't know what/who Matarsiva really is.

TheLittleNaruto

@SwapnilDas the wind

vaayu

Swapnil Das

Ohk, is it another name of Vayu?

TheLittleNaruto

Seems like it

Swapnil Das

4:51 PM

Hmm.

Which leads to a question.

TheLittleNaruto

Go ahead

Swapnil Das

Is Isha Upanishad in its entity pointing towards Advaita Philosophy?

TheLittleNaruto

Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Swapnil Das

Has Dvaita always been rejected?

TheLittleNaruto

No it can not be rejected

One can become bhagwan only after becoming bhakta

Swapnil Das

4:52 PM

Ohk.

TheLittleNaruto

dvaita to advaita

Swapnil Das

@TheLittleNaruto I believe in exactly this thing.

TheLittleNaruto

@SwapnilDas Yes :)

Swapnil Das

The first step always has to Dvaita, because complete surrender is very necessary.

So Madhavacharya had a point.

TheLittleNaruto

depends on how are you surrendering to him.

Swapnil Das

4:54 PM

True.

TheLittleNaruto

I always say this; creation of Parmatma is beautiful, we must enjoy his glory.

glory in everything that he created

This is one way of surrendering to him.

Swapnil Das

I never understood why Madhavacharya so fiercely criticized Shankaracharya.

@TheLittleNaruto Very true.

TheLittleNaruto

@SwapnilDas I wouldn't comment on that otherwise followers of both parties will kill me :P

Swapnil Das

@TheLittleNaruto Haha.

Though ppl aren't that aggressive nowadays. So yeah.

@HinduKid Anything to say?

TheLittleNaruto

"Remaining static It overtakes others that run."

HinduKid

4:58 PM

@SwapnilDas 😪 😪 😂 😂 😊

TheLittleNaruto

This is Spanda principle

Swapnil Das

@TheLittleNaruto Oh, what's that?

@HinduKid lol.

TheLittleNaruto

@SwapnilDas In short it is pulsation of divine.

Swapnil Das

@TheLittleNaruto I see.

TheLittleNaruto

creative pulsation*

Swapnil Das

5:00 PM

Hmm.

TheLittleNaruto

If you remember I had said in last discussion, Parmatma is changeless principle of all changes.

Swapnil Das

Yeah, Ir.

TheLittleNaruto

It means there has to be a dynamic aspect of divine which does things

Swapnil Das

True.

TheLittleNaruto

that's how it overtakes others that run even being static.

Swapnil Das

5:02 PM

@TheLittleNaruto Yeah!

TheLittleNaruto

@SwapnilDas Read Spandakarika after Shiva Sutras

Swapnil Das

@TheLittleNaruto Sure. Jaideva Singh?

TheLittleNaruto

Yes

Swapnil Das

I'm currently reading prakarana granthas of Adi Shankara.

I'll add this to the list.

TheLittleNaruto

First read Vedanta texts

then read KS texts

You'll understand the differences

Swapnil Das

5:04 PM

prakarana granthas are basically that.

@TheLittleNaruto Yeah.

TheLittleNaruto

"On account of Its presence, Matarsiva (the wind) conducts the activities of beings. [4]"

Now the last line.

Swapnil Das

Yup.

TheLittleNaruto

@SwapnilDas Off topic for this discussion: "Renouncing everything for the sake of religious desires is not good."

Swapnil Das

This is debatable.

TheLittleNaruto

@SwapnilDas I think wind is a metaphor here.

Swapnil Das

5:06 PM

@TheLittleNaruto Hmm.

TheLittleNaruto

Any idea what does it mean?

Swapnil Das

Kinda confused.

TheLittleNaruto

Air (matarisva) is that whose activity sustains all life, on which all causes and effects depend, and in which all these inhere, which is called sutra (thread, as it were) supporting all the worlds through which it runs.

Swapnil Das

Hmm.

TheLittleNaruto

without air it is impossible to survive for a mango person.

HinduKid

5:11 PM

@TheLittleNaruto mango?

Swapnil Das

Mango?

Yeah :P

TheLittleNaruto

@HinduKid mango person == aam aadmi @SwapnilDas

:D

HinduKid

@TheLittleNaruto 😅 😅

TheLittleNaruto

May be @Pandya could add more here.

Swapnil Das

@TheLittleNaruto lol.

TheLittleNaruto

5:13 PM

@SwapnilDas @HinduKid Do you guys want to add anything here?

Swapnil Das

You've said everything.

TheLittleNaruto

Cool

HinduKid

which Book is This From?

@SwapnilDas Which Book, did You download.?

🧐 🧐 🧐

TheLittleNaruto

With this jayakara we shall end the discussion. Say this loudly:

JAI SHREE RAMA

HinduKid

JAI SHREE RAMA 🙏 🙏

TheLittleNaruto

5:16 PM

@HinduKid It's from an App: Upanishad.

HinduKid

@TheLittleNaruto Oh.. 😄 😄

TheLittleNaruto

@HinduKid 🕉🙏

HinduKid

@TheLittleNaruto 🕉 🙏 🙏

Swapnil Das

Hey

My internet went off.

The explanation that I gave this time was of my own.

Last time, it was from Chinmayanand's commentary.

TheLittleNaruto

@SwapnilDas That's great :)

You already improved a lot

HinduKid

5:22 PM

@SwapnilDas So, Cool... 🧐🧐

Swapnil Das

@TheLittleNaruto Thank you.

TheLittleNaruto

:)

@SwapnilDas JAI SHREE RAMA

Swapnil Das

@TheLittleNaruto JAI SHREE RAMA! May the Narayana (ra) and Mahadev (ma) in the name, bless us with wisdom :)

TheLittleNaruto

@SwapnilDas 🕉🙏

Swapnil Das

@HinduKid So I hope I answered your question. It's basically Shankara Bhasya and Chinmayananda.

HinduKid

5:26 PM

@SwapnilDas Thank You.. 🙂 🙂

Swapnil Das

I like the way the both explain, though Chinmayananda is way kinder to expand briefly. Adi Shankara expects us to be way more wise.

@HinduKid :)

HinduKid

शुभरात्रिः 🙂 🙂

TheLittleNaruto

@HinduKid शुभरात्रि

Swapnil Das

@TheLittleNaruto शुभरात्रिः

HinduKid

@Pandya Namaste 🙏 🙏 ,. and
शुभरात्रिः 🙂 🙂

@All शुभरात्रिः 🙂

TheLittleNaruto

5:34 PM

This time @HinduKid wasn't just the spectator. This is great :)

Pandya

@TheLittleNaruto @SwapnilDas is already here to add Adi Shankara point of view and you are here to add Kashmiri Shaiva point of view. Now I can only add my personal point of view l! Hahaha

TheLittleNaruto

@Pandya ROFL

Pandya

@HinduKid :)

TheLittleNaruto

Spammer! Spammer! Run! Run!

Pandya

@TheLittleNaruto where?

TheLittleNaruto

5:36 PM

@Pandya Your message got pasted twice.

Pandya

@TheLittleNaruto oh. That's bug in Mobile site of SE's chat room.

Sometimes editing existing messages does post separate message

TheLittleNaruto

I know. I was kidding.

Pandya

:)

TheLittleNaruto

Alright it's time to go offline. Thanks for active participation in the event @SwapnilDas @HinduKid @Pandya :)

Good Night

Pandya

@TheLittleNaruto true

@TheLittleNaruto ShubhaRatri

Archit

6:05 PM

@TheLittleNaruto @RakeshJoshi @hanugm @HinduKid @SwapnilDas @Pandya @DarshitPatel @luckypashu @whoever else, If anyone is interested, Ram janmabhumi is inviting suggestions from the public for elements to incorporate around the temple. They’ve made a small 4 page pamphlet detailing the kind of suggestions they’re looking for. Please visit srjbtkshetra.org for details. Everyone can contribute!!!

@TheLittleNaruto you know they seem to have accepted my Yajna Mandap and Veda pathashsla suggestion.

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6:30 PM

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