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1:37 AM
so 3 users wanted a and . How useful tags they are!
 
 
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2:40 AM
Yes @AkshayS It is not a duplicate
This has a different purpose than the linked one.
 
@NogShine it happens.... 3 close votes.... already :P
 
Duplicate closure system is not fine here (especially on meta).
@AkshayS Yeah. Seen that. Can expect some names.
but let's see.
 
 
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4:20 AM
@AkshayS I am busy these days. You should pay me when you come here.
I am not free these days to give you "free gyaan"
How much will you pay for that?
 
 
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5:22 AM
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Q: What are the philosophical differences between Vishishtadvaita Vedanta and Shivadvaita Vedanta?

Surya Kanta Bose ChowdhuryVishishtadvaita, as we know, is a Vedantic philosophy propogated by the renowned Sripad Ramanujacharya. The philosophy is subscribed mainly by Sri Vaishnavas, Ramanandi Vaishnavas and Swaminarayan Vaishnavas. On the other hand, Shivadvaita is another Vedantic philosophy, propagated by the Shaivi...

 
5:34 AM
@NogShine I will grant to fullfuil all your desires :P..
 
5:49 AM
@NogShine LMAO
 
6:09 AM
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Q: What is the list of things needed for Vedic marriage?

hanugmThere are descriptions of several marriages in Hindu scriptures such as marriages of Sita Rama, Parvati parameswara etc., Is there any mention on the complete or partial list of the necessary things needed for marriage? The things I'm referring are only things used during the marriage event.

 
6:38 AM
@NogShine You cannot do this. It is strictly forbidden for you only :)
 
@NogShine human cupcake sacrifice ?
Meta comment upvote is really shady here.
 
7:40 AM
@TriyugiNarayanMani Hahaha
@AnkitSharma much more than that.
As expected
@AkshayS Sure sure.
@AnkitSharma getting meta comment upvotes is pretty easy here
easier than getting upvotes on answers.
 
8:00 AM
@NogShine hmm I see
@NogShine yeah I don't liked how it's going
 
8:15 AM
0
Q: What are the sources of Shubhashitani (sanskrit sayings/proverbs)?

ramShubhashitani (good sayings) are proverbs in Sanskrit that teach good morals, practices and advice. e.g. विद्या ददाति विनयं विनयाद्याति पात्रताम् । पात्रत्वाद्धनमाप्नोति धनाद्धर्मं ततः सुखम् What are the sources of these ? Are they taken from Itihasa/Purana ? Or are they taken from Panch...

 
8:31 AM
0
Q: Green Tara and Parvati

Kamakura KingWhat are the correlations between Green Tara in Buddhism and Mother Parvati in Hinduism? Are these Goddess connected?

 
 
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9:50 AM
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Q: Marriage within the brahmin shakhas

HemambujavalliI did read another question about marriage between different varnas but my question is marriage between two different Brahmin shakhas allowed in the scriptures? For instance two Brahmin communities one following Yajur Veda and the other Rig Veda? Or between a vaishnavite and a Gaud saraswath Br...

 
2 hours ago, by Nog Shine
https://hinduism.stackexchange.com/q/33016/5212
@TriyugiNarayanMani @AnkitSharma ^
 
10:14 AM
already done
 
10:56 AM
@AkshayS Lol.. This is extreme..
 
11:14 AM
@NogShine Done
 
@TheDestroyer It happens.... here most....
 
11:29 AM
@AkshayS ok.
 
 
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2:00 PM
@Zanna vanakam!
 
2:15 PM
vanakam @AkshayS :)
was reading your conversation with @KrishnaShweta about relatives asking intrusive questions, bothering people to work or marry or reproduce haha that drives me crazy,
 
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Q: List of female Vedic seers (rishkAs)

Rakesh JoshiCan someone please post the list of female seers to whom the vedic samhita mantras were revealed? Like list of seer and sukta and mantra with mandala or chapter number would be highly appreciated

 
2:45 PM
@Zanna if its limited to asking fine. But boundaries are crossed that's never fine
 
yes
 
3:03 PM
@Zanna it's more torcher here ... that's why I dont move with them close
 
torture?
 
3:28 PM
@Zanna yes... they ask when I go for job :P
 
I was asking if by torcher (person who torches?) you meant torture (the practice of deliberately inflicting pain for some reason, often to extract a confession)
@AkshayS yes, condolences :(
even when my mum asks me if I have any work today, I don't like it, even though there's no question that it's anything other than making conversation ("How are you? How's work? What are you up to today?")
 
@Zanna yes.... relatives... because their sons work in IT field... so they are angry on me for taking commerce. None thinks peace of mind good health is essential than earning fame and money
 
commerce? why that?
 
@Zanna society influence. That's why throw out society out of mind (with that ego ahamkara also goes) when ahamkara goes, what remains is ATMA :p
 
indeed, stupid capitalism... we value whatever makes money and not what sustains life or makes it worth living...
 
3:33 PM
@Zanna I find it easy and peaceful life
No over work for mind
 
It's a subject you study? What is involved?
 
@Zanna its related to accounting
 
why would relatives be angry about that? I don't get it
 
@Zanna they see science as best highest and rest all dont equal wealth
 
@AkshayS my cousin and her husband are accountants and they are quite wealthy. Much more wealthy than my parents and more than her parents too.
@AkshayS but "it takes all sorts to make a world"
actually the people who clean the hospital are just as essential as the doctors... possibly more so, since without their work, doctors efforts are all useless or worse...
still, it doesn't take so much training to be a cleaner, I'm just thinking about how silly we all are in valuing different kinds of work
in my country, arts in education are in decline because of government policy devaluing qualifications in these areas
it's really stupid, because the UK contributes quite respectably to arts globally, and the arts are a major part of our economy, so, even in capitalist terms, it makes no sense at all
 
3:40 PM
@Zanna I think due to over thinking with our mind we lost basics common sense in us... decline of common sense = decline of good habits= decline of virtues= adharma prevails
 
I do not like the argument to common sense because I think "has common sense" means something like "agrees with me about this"
I think thinking is what is needed, actually
because the government ministers who made this policy were not thinking
nor were they consulting
they were just following their preferences
 
@Zanna thinking is needed of course but over thinking is something that's also not good
 
and also being elitist, making it so that only children from rich families could discover or develop their talent in creative fields, because those fields won't exist in state education
they will have to pay for private lessons if they want them
so the actual content of education becomes ever narrower and poorer and more limited and limiting
 
@Zanna bingo.... this is headshot point
 
and only the already rich have the chance to enrich themselves with spiritually enriching activities
 
3:45 PM
@Zanna u r almost there in spirituality with this kind of thinking
 
I work in education, so I think about this stuff all the time :)
 
@Zanna excellent consciousness you have. ... u can certainly rise in spirituality which will give you even more knowledge to act in the world for welfare
 
thank you
I hope I can make some small positive difference :)
 
Welcome @KrishnaShweta
 
Thank you :-)
 
3:52 PM
@Zanna if we rise our consciousness from present, we will know life is not about survival. . Each level of energy points brings out of higher qualities in humans
 
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Q: Does Vedas have any description about relation between Shiva & parvati?

aniket kumar singh Because there was a mention about Shiva & ambika as brother - sister in Vedas? So I have a doubt.

 
@AkshayS What's the use of it?
 
@KrishnaShweta which
 
Nothing...
 
@KrishnaShweta tell.. I know u wantes to know something. I talked 2 things consciousness energy.
 
3:55 PM
there is a book by Daniel C Dennett called Darwin's Dangerous Idea, which is about evolution as the title suggests
 
@Zanna ohoo
 
probably the main purpose of the book is to show how evolution, a process that starts from extremely simple stuff like amino acids and increases in complexity over time, all the way up to the array of living organisms on Earth today, some of them conscious, is actually possible, (because "creationists" say that it would be impossible for such complexity to arise in such a way)
but the point that I took from that book that I keep telling people about
is that genes have an imperative
which is to reproduce themselves
but the organism is not its genes
we do not have to do what the genes want
 
@Zanna ohoo....nice
Info
 
we can do... whatever is possible for us, which is way way more than just reproduce
 
@Zanna that's why we are born as human and see @KrishnaShweta has gone silent
 
4:02 PM
I hope I am not upsetting her
seems I have been called with -vvv
 
@Zanna ??
 
that is, in very verbose indeed mode
@AkshayS you can give an option on command line to a program to change its behaviour... in many programs -v means "verbose" i.e. give more information about what is happening
some programs have -vv or even -vvv for even more verbose (print as much information as possible, most of it probably useless)
so I was joking about how much I am going on and on and on
 
@Zanna ah! No dear.
 
@AkshayS yes we are human, we have so much capacity, there is so much we can do! Yet people are asking, why haven't you got pregnant yet? when are you getting married? when are you getting job?
@KrishnaShweta :)
how are you @KrishnaShweta ?
 
@Zanna that's humans guna...
 
4:07 PM
I'm good. How about you? @Zanna
 
yesterday I went to a wedding... I stayed in a hostel and didn't have proper breakfast, so I was feeling tired and lacking energy... then I ate lunch, and now I feel much better haha
 
@NogShine O.o
 
@KrishnaShweta so u escaped from my question :P
@Zanna Oh.. whilw coming to India learn Idly chapati cooking
 
@Zanna Good :D
 
@AkshayS I can make chapati
 
4:11 PM
@AkshayS which?
 
@KrishnaShweta this one
@Zanna wow.... u r already Indian then....
 
hahaha well maybe they are not really correct
but I love to make flatbread, my favourite task in cooking
 
Namskar @Pandya
 
my friend came to visit this week and asked me to teach her how to make them haha
but I can't make idli or dosa at all
 
@Zanna after coming here you will be able to
 
4:15 PM
I hope so :D
 
@AkshayS Namaskar!
 
@Pandya did you see my answer for your quetsion on Pranayama?
 
@AkshayS will tell you after some time.
 
@AkshayS Yes, you said it's essential before Dhyana
 
@Pandya Hatha Yoga alone has prescribed various Pranayamas but Pranayama actually as per Patanjali and Thirumoolar is to surpass the inhalation and exhalation. One who has suspended his inhalation and exhalation for him he has also arrested his desires.
@Zanna You will for sure
 
4:19 PM
@AkshayS shall I come to your house so you can show me how to do? XD
 
@AkshayS Yes, Swami Vivekananada explained Prana very nicely :)
 
@Zanna When you come, I will not be in Chennai I suppose because I have planned for visiting Shiva temples in April-May before my exams
@KrishnaShweta Ohoo.... done!
 
hah was only joking
 
@Zanna I know but if I am in Chennai I had thought of meeting you but since am not sure whether i will be there, i didnt speak about it!
@Pandya You could have answered Just Do it authors question on deep meditation
@Zanna when you come here visit Thiruvannamalai and stay there in temple for sometime before leaving that thiruvannamalai....purify yourself there
 
@AkshayS :)
I will certainly try to go to that place
 
4:24 PM
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Q: Complete biography/hagiography of Ramanujacharya

Lazy LubberWhere I can get the complete biography/hagiography of Ramanujacharya, which contains all the details of his life and deeds, right from his birth, till his passing away? Fantastic accounts are also fine.

 
@Zanna if remove impurities within us mentally, and physically, we will function at our fullest potential
 
@AkshayS I am an introvert, so I usually just stay inside by myself. We are meeting here daily - that is fine with me :D
 
@Zanna You are staying inside your self. Thats meditation :D
 
quick poll: How about a tag for interpretation?
 
4:39 PM
@AkshayS haha I should meditate though. Recently I cannot do it
@Pandya everything is interpretation :)
 
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Q: Which Sri Vaishnava Acharya drew this world map based on the Mahabharata?

Keshav SrinivasanThis picture, showing a world map based on the Mahabharata, is often circulated on the Internet: It’s based on this chapter and subsequent chapters of the Bhishma Parva of the Mahabharata. But my question is not about the accuracy of this map or it’s relation to the Mahabharata, but rather wh...

 
@Pandya Say usage. :P
 
@TheDestroyer when question is explicitly using for interpretation of particular verse of scripture....
e.g.....
 
@Pandya ok. what about asking for alternate translation?
 
@TheDestroyer GURU BRAHMA, GURU VISHNU, GURU DEVO, MAHESVARAHA, GURU SAKSHAT PARABRAHMA - WHAT IS MEANING OF THIS SLOKA
 
4:45 PM
We can use for this purpose also i think @Pandya
 
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Q: What is the actual interpretation of following Bhagavad Gita shlokha?

hanugmIn Chapter 2 Sloka 38 of Bhagavad Gita, it is said that; Maintain equanimity when faced with happiness and distress, gain and loss, victory and defeat – fight, and in this way you will not incur impiety. ( sukha-duḥkhe same kṛtvā   lābhālābhau jayājayau   tato yuddhāya yujyasva   ...

 
seems too vague
 
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Q: What are the exact interpretations of four Mahavakyas by Dvaita, Vishishtadvaita and Advaita?

Chakrapani N RaoNote: You can write an answer from the perspective of one or more schools, whichever you know best and also I read somewhere that some schools consider Mahavakyas as quoted out of the context, if you think so you can quote the whole verse to provide the context you intend for your interpretation....

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Q: Does anyone agree with the Mimamsa interpretation of this Upanishad verse?

Keshav SrinivasanAs I discuss in this question, by far the most popular school of Hindu philosophy is the Vedanta school, which bases its tenets on the doctrines laid out in the Brahma Sutras, a work by the sage Vyasa that summarizes and systematizes the philosophical teachings of the Upanishads. (You can read th...

 
these posts seem defined enough without extra tags
 
etc....
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Q: How does Vishishtadvaita interpret "One without a second"?

PandyaThere are some Advaita sounding verses in the Upanishads which declare that there is only one without a second in the beginning: Aitareya Upanishad 1.1.1: ॐ आत्मा वा इदमेक एवाग्र आसीन्नान्यत्किंचन मिषत् । In the beginning this was but the absolute Self alone. There was nothing else what...

 
4:47 PM
We can use if we want different or alternate interpretation or meaning.
 
@Zanna Hmm. sounds more or less correct.
 
@AkshayS We have translation-request for this.
 
@TheDestroyer I am asking you meaning... not related to translation request tags
 
@Zanna But what if we want different interpretation for same verse?
 
4:52 PM
@TheDestroyer man reply... so that after meaning i ll sleep :P
 
Anyway, I think following should work:
7 mins ago, by Zanna
these posts seem defined enough without extra tags
 
@Pandya I think it should be there.
 
Hello. Has there been a question about dating the 12 battles in the puranas?
 
@TheDestroyer what would the tag be useful for if it were used correctly? When I want to ask for or about different interpretations, I can do so in the body of my question, or even the title, right? I do not think people would become expert in "interpretations" so I do not think people would follow that tag. Nor do I think it very likely that people would want to search for all questions following that format
 
@AkshayS 😳🤔🤔
 
4:54 PM
moreover, such a tag seems very likely to be used incorrectly
 
@AkshayS is that for tag discussion or asking me meaning?
 
so, keeping it clean would be hard
and people might use only that tag, and not more useful tags which describe the content of the question
 
@sidharthchhabra Matsya Purana has answer i think. Not so sure about Question :P
 
@Zanna Yes, most of questions can be called the issue of interpretation :p
 
haha it's inevitable... perception happens, and just to form an idea in the mind is an interpretation... to put it into words is another interpretation...
 
4:59 PM
@Zanna Tags can also be used to sort questions of some kind. So, if a user wants to read all questions (that can contain verses which have wrong intepretations, like Vedic verses which are circulated on internet about cow slaughtering or other verses from Puranas) which are generally wrongly, user can search questions with tags "interpretation" with much ease and read such questions
 
aren't such tags often meta tags?
 
@TheDestroyer asking u meaning
 
@AkshayS Is this testing or real?
 
@TheDestroyer man serious.... I dont know the meaning of that sloka... u r questioning too much a sleepy man...
 
@AkshayS Guru is Brahma, Guru is Vishnu, Guru is Maheswara and indeed Guru is verily Parabrahman
 
5:01 PM
@TheDestroyer I don't have knowledge about this site, so just speaking from general SE awareness.
 
@TheDestroyer thank you.
 
seems to me the person could search for the topic they want interpretations about
 
@TheDestroyer we treat all Trimurti as Guru here?
 
@AkshayS I think other way around. Importance of Guru by equating with trimurtis and even Parabrahman
There is a saying, if God gets angry, Guru can save you but if Guru gets angry, not even God can save you.
 
@Zanna Should we use this tag for questions like "What is meaning of ........ verse?"
 
5:04 PM
@TriyugiNarayanMani kaboom!
@Pandya Huh? That is for asking a Sanskrit book translation in preferred language. Translations are off-topic.
 
@Pandya since everything is interpretation, it's not needed. It's like making a tag , I think
@TheDestroyer hahaha where does that come from? Amazing...
 
@NogShine All translations are not off-topic. If a question asks for Puranic verse translation, why can't we allow it?
 
@TheDestroyer Yes....ok.... ll sleep and see you tomorrow....thanks for explanation...
 
@Hinduismbot unclear. It's the same question in the picture referred.
 
5:08 PM
good night @AkshayS thanks for chatting :)
 
@Pandya All questions are for interpretation of verses only. Right? What else do we do than that?
 
शिवे क्रुद्धे गुरुस्त्राता गुरौ क्रुद्धे शिवो न हि।
तस्मात्सर्वप्रयत्नेन श्रीगुरुं शरणं व्रजेत्॥४४॥
Translation: When Śiva is angry, the Guru is the Protector, but when the Guru is angry, Śiva is not the Protector, undoubtedly. For that reason, with all one’s own effort one should take refuge in the venerable Guru.
I think there is other explicit verse
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Q: What/Who is guru? Can it be a concept/idea/teachings or necessarily be a physical person?

Mr. Sigma.As the guru is made up with two syllables gu & ru. Gu means darkness & ru means dispeller. Thus the term Guru means one who dispels our darkness. As it is said, शिवे क्रुद्धे गुरुस्त्राता गुरौ क्रुद्धे शिवो न हि। तस्मात्सर्वप्रयत्नेन श्रीगुरुं शरणं व्रजेत्॥४४॥ Translation: When Śiva is an...

 
@Zanna Yes, they are called meta tags. The tags which do not say the content of the question but say which kind of question. That's why I dropped a tag discussion. interpretation is a meta tag
 
@TheDestroyer thank you! :)
 
@NogShine ha ha
 
5:14 PM
@TheDestroyer Because there are no translators on the site. One or two users are not sufficient. We only post translation from somewhere else. Mr.Alien stressed that point while answering my question about Sanskrit questions. Translation only questions should be somewhere else.
 
Hmm. so interpretation may be not good tag to use; and how about translation/interpretation issues of verse? @Zanna
 
@Pandya *Nogshine . They ask for meaning. Not translation
 
@Pandya what is the problem you wish to solve there?
 
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A: Should we close questions related to Sanskrit language and grammar as off-topic?

Mr. AlienWe should mark questions related to Sanskrit language as OFF-topic, BUT I would Not mark questions which ask to explain the meaning (not talking about translation, but literal meaning &/or thought behind the sloka) of a verse/mantra which are written in Sanskrit language. For example, this is pu...

> BUT I would Not mark questions which ask to explain the meaning (not talking about translation, but literal meaning &/or thought behind the sloka)
 
@Zanna got it.
 
5:17 PM
@Pandya The questions you shared more or less ask for meaning and background behind the verses posted and not literal translations.
 
Yes, questions asking for directory meaning of Sanskrit word should be off-topic.
 
I think people can be experts on the topic the verse is about, or in a language, or in a particular text. For me, if someone can be an expert in it, it can be a tag
if nobody can be an expert in it, there is probably no use for a tag
 
Questions asking for meaning and interpretation of particular verse is somewhat different thing.
 
shouldn't such questions be tagged with the source of the verse (the text) and, if relevant, the topic of the verse?
 
There were a couple of questions which were posted to give meaning completely. Even if we know, it is not right to do that because there are 100s of stotras which are only in Sanskrit. We are not experts in it. So, better to stay away from that.
 
5:20 PM
@Zanna Right
 
@Zanna no.. not language.
 
expertise can be in the context of Hinduism, which is a context provided by the site
so there can be a tag , meaning, not expertise in rivers in general, but rivers in the context of Hinduism
(taking an example from earlier in the chat haha)
 
@Zanna if the topic of verse is insignificant than question might be off-topic. Agree so topic of verse can be a tag :)
am I getting what you mean?
 
@NogShine people can be expert in languages... I do not know whether questions answerable by such expertise would be on topic, of course :)
@Pandya do you mean ?
 
@Zanna There are language experts on the site but language questions are off-topic for the site. We tried hard for Indian language SE but that failed.
 
5:24 PM
@Zanna Yes, e.g. if verse come from Bhagvad-gita, it can be tagged with Bhagavad-gita
Another thing I got is: if the topic of question is insignificant than question might be asking for just meaning of random Sanskrit verse which would be suitable on Sanskrit Language site. But here the verse should deal with the context of Hinduism
 
@Pandya oh definitely, yes. But when I say topic of verse I say maybe the verse is about something taggable, like . So, that question could have 2 tags...
 
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Q: 12 Major battles between the Devas and Danavas

sidharth chhabraMany Puranas talk about 12 major battles between the Danavas and Devas. As per Brahmanda Purana (3rd Canto, Ch 72), they are as follows: Lord Narasimha fighting the Danavas Lord Vamana binding the Bali Lord Varah fighting Hiranyaksha Battle after churning of the ocean: Prahlada defeated in the...

 
@Pandya ah well that sounds right, but I don't know about the scope of the site, I was just rambling about what kind of topic could justifiably be a tag
@NogShine yes, shame about that :( maybe later it will work out
one person said such a site was not a good idea because 1)There are many Indian languages so having one site for all of them would be too big and 2)There would not be enough people to answer questions about languages with few speakers. I thought that was a very bad argument hahaha but if people think such things... well
 
@Zanna I answered that meta question :D
 
@Zanna Before making proposal on Area51, we should have considerable mass willing to join
 
5:31 PM
oh there was a meta question saying the same? haha I was talking about something someone said to me in another chat
 
So, we first need to be sure about it and then should start proposal.
 
@Zanna Yep. You wrote an answer and deleted it.
 
@Pandya where can we gather this audience in advance? :)
 
That's why I have not tried for proposal for Sanskrit Language or Indian Language yet.
 
@NogShine I did? :O
 
5:33 PM
Yes
 
@Zanna Well, that's the thing Area51 is not for finding mass, it's for developing place for mass we already have.
Ok. Let me link MSE....
 
@Pandya sure yes
that was a strategy question
a real question, not rhetorical
what shall we do now, to gather this audience for the next proposal, real question
 
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Q: Changes to the Area 51 Process v3.0

Robert CartainoFor anyone who follows this site, you may have noticed that Area 51 has been churning out progressively weaker site proposals and more anemic site launches, about a third of which fail in private beta. There is nothing inherently wrong with most of these subjects; it's just that we've largely ...

> If you are accustomed to throwing up proposal after proposal hoping somebody ELSE will build your site, Area 51 is not the place to START your community search.
When we have considerable mass willing to join the project we can start proposal and we will easily pass the definition stage :)
Good Night!
 
@Pandya good night :)
@NogShine I don't remember
@AkshayS I call it lack of imagination :)
 

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