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12:02 AM
@Jis12yearsold. I just woke up. Still want that deleted?
 
he's asleep
 
 
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1:29 AM
damn tab-complete
 
And sourceware.org/glibc/wiki/PointerEncryption. Will be useful for you when you switch to Linux exploitation (I have no idea if Windows' libc has something like that).
tcache is truly awful.
@Flow no, actually I had figured out how tcache exploitation works, in short it discards many security checks since glibc 2.26 (like the case in my question), a lot of exploits become more powerful. — poming Jun 12 '18 at 19:38
:D
 
Yeaaah, definately mispinged. This is all over my head :D
 
And probably the best reference on it: tukan.farm/2017/07/08/tcache
@JourneymanGeek I blame you for having a name that also starts with J!
 
I had it first!
(Actually, the funny thing was - I set up this account as The Journeyman Geek, but I dropped the the early on for easier pinginginginginging)
 
1:36 AM
@JourneymanGeek tl;dr this stuff is about a glibc feature called tcache which speeds up threaded applications, but at the expensive of security (it makes some exploits much easier).
Wanted to ping J because he's doing Windows but interested in Linux.
 
ah
I actually understood most of that at a superficial level :D
 
@JourneymanGeek You might like to read sourceware.org/glibc/wiki/MallocInternals then.
Will help to understand at a deeper level.
(Assuming you don't know about malloc fundamentals)
 
I don't know any programming at all :D
 
1:54 AM
You should learn it. It's neat.
 
 
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10:10 AM
@JourneymanGeek Hey, no, I was kidding :D Thanks though.
@forest Hah. Yeah, I have actually noticed that in a few articles. They write the first paragraph as they're going to defend Palestine (presumably to keep people from instantly clicking off) then the further you go down the text the more it becomes a full on assault on them.
@forest Oh thanks.
@forest As far as I know, it does not have something like that. Although it would be useful for sure...
 
@Jis12yearsold. Oh ok, no problem
 
:D
"The Journeyman Geek" would be a super long name :D
 
lol
I went by that for... about a week? :D
and its only 4 chars longer than Journeyman Geek
 
Yeah but 4 extra characters when you're lazy feels like 8 extra.
By the way, I always meant to ask - is that your dog?
 
10:26 AM
Was
He passed away 2 months ago
 
:(
I'm sorry.
 
He had a good life, and it was peaceful
He passed on basically due to extreme old age
 
I really want to get a doggo but I am not very good at looking after myself let alone an animal.
 
Its a lot of responsibility. I don't think I can manage it with my current (shift) job unfortunately
 
I really want one of these fluffers
a Samoyed, soooo cute.
a little polar bear :D
 
10:30 AM
Was gonna say
Yeah they are
 
So fuckin cute
My girlfriend has been begging me to buy one but i dont know if its fair to own a dog in an apartment its too small
 
I'll probably end up with a westie or a snauzer
 
i would like a garden for it to be in if i had a dog
 
or there's going to be some stupidly unpredictable series of events... which is how we got our dog
 
i think its more fair
 
10:31 AM
@Jis12yearsold. Its doable, just need lots of walkies
and the first.... 2-3 years will be high attention
 
yeah thats the other problem
i dont have much time for a floofer
 
Honestly
time is more important than space
 
so my girlfriend would need to look after him mostly on his own
 
and having a routine
 
and then id feel bad for her
 
10:32 AM
TBH other than the whole dying thing, an old dog is a lot less work.
 
yeah i can imagine
we'd get a puppy so thats even more work
 
But I think spent upwards of 2 hours a day on ours for a good amount of his life
totally worth it
@Jis12yearsold. Ah - Ash was a kinda rescue
 
i'll probably get one in a few years
maybe when im older
 
Used to belong to this... person... who got him and didn't talk to the partner...
they fought and she was staying with us until her dad sorted it out, and... she left, the doggo didn't
 
oh dear....
thats sad.
 
10:34 AM
meh, she didn't deserve him, he picked us, and I think everyone came out on top
I mean...
 
awww so cute
the paws :D
that is my favourite thing on animals, their paws are so cute
i really want an actual polar bear
but thats an unlikely thing to own
 
That's him a few months before he passed on.
 
awwww
whos his friend? thats a cute picture
 
She's a 12 year old scnauzer
Not sure of her name, her owners called her granma, and she was stone deaf :D
 
10:41 AM
there was also a 19 year old a few years back...
can't see, can't hear, and the owners had a vest and carried him like a briefcase
But he was pretty happy to smell people :D
 
awh thats so cute
haha
doggos are awesome
if i ever make enough money
i am going to buy my own polar cub
and a friend for him to play with
and pay a keeper to train them and look after them
because polar bears are a lot of work
and then hopefully i can have my own polar bear :D
i was watching a program about polar bear cubs without a mother
and they need SO much attention
but its so cute
look at him :((
 
11:47 AM
lol
can't really play fetch with one
 
12:00 PM
heh, why not? :D
If they are raised around humans but with a play cub, you can.
But I think you need to be a millionaire to afford a polar bear...
sadly.
 
We used to have em in the zoo
I mean, other than the whole humans being crappy and destroying their ecosystem, they'd probably be better off wandering the vast white wastes
I guess if you were a supervillan...
 
12:14 PM
Yeah that's the other thing about having polar bears, you need to have a lot of their own environment around.
So I'd have to live in Alaska or similar for it to be fair to keep them.
 
12:25 PM
lol
there's a dog listed by a local petshop who seems perfect
but its too soon + job + its a girl dog
(we don't generally neuter our housepets and... boy dogs have certain advantages in that sense)
 
I'd probably get a bitch if i get a dog :D
I don't want to deal with a horny harold humping everything :D
 
;p
We've never had much problems
Actually the only times we had risk of puppies was people going "Is he fixed? Could you stud him out for half the puppies?"
 
Hah :D
Oh, I wouldn't be able to cope with having a bunch of puppies also.
My girlfriend would love it
But that'd drive me insane :D
As cute as they are.
 
I'd have no idea what to do
bigger puppies sure
little ones .-.
 
heh they'd be annoying
I mean SUPER cute
but i'd go insane. my girlfriend would want them all in the bed and everywhere
 
12:30 PM
lol
they look like little rats until they're a few months old
 
nooooo
they're adorable!
 
I belive the exact reaction everyone had to Ash was "Why did she buy that funny looking gremlin"
 
hahahahahahahahaha
i just like their little paws >.>
so cute
 
lol
or as this youtube channel I watch where this young lady grooms dogs calls em......
"Grinch feet"
 
hahah :D
You know the one thing I'm jealous of in life.
I don't get jealous much but
my girlfriend has been to Thailand and she got to play with tigers
and i am very jealous of it
i wanna play with a tiger :(
 
12:36 PM
maybe when covid's subsided
 
yeah i might go then
hopefully they dont eat me
their paws are like as big as my head
 
lol
Oh, ever seen messi?
 
but someone told me some of those tiger places arent that good for the tigers
so i'd also feel bad if i helped fund a bad place
@JourneymanGeek huh?
 
awhhh
thats so cool
 
12:39 PM
IIRC he's a rescue
he's too tame to be released in the wild, and he's kinda in the wrong part of the world
 
HAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAHAHA
he took th e whole thing
hahaha
that so cuteee
animals are better than hoomans
 
1:03 PM
@Jis12yearsold. animals are way better than adults. Babies on the other hand are cute. And innocent.
Also, I want a puma too.
Except that i’d be afraid of it . );
 
@nobody Heh, yes. Although, I don't like children.
But yes. Animals are way better than adults.
Oh that's nice, the IDF are now bombing refugee camps..
For a second I thought they couldn't become anymore reprehensible.
But no, they just topped it. By bombing the homeless.
This is just unreal..
How are the media still defending these actions.
There's one thing bombing housed members of hamas
theres another bombing fucking refugee camps
those people are as close to death as a human can get
they are as close to starved and sick as you can get
they have no where left to go
IDF: "theres 12 hamas in a refugee camp, bomb it fucking all"
jesus.....
and the you got the media: "well hamas are firing rockets"
YES. I'D BE FUCKING FIRING ROCKETS TOO .
I am still curious as to when we can consider this a genocide
I mean, a genocide is the act of attempting to destroy a people whether by race, gender, color, whatever.
So when is this a genocide and not just "israel keeping out the terrorists"?
hmm?
 
1:21 PM
@Jis12yearsold. probably mostly just homemade rockets at that
 
@nobody Yes, homemade rockets with less than 10% of them passing through the defense system.
 
@Jis12yearsold. I assume those 10% are allowed through the defense system
So the media can say palestinians are killing people
 
@nobody You know, I never thought about it like that, but you make a good point. Probably true. If they didn't allow any to pass through the system then it would be much harder for them to scream: "help we're getting oppressed".
All the meanwhile, they are the ones doing the oppressing. They are the ones who started a riot at Mosques. They are the ones evicting innocent, good members of society out of their homes simply for being Palestinian. They are the ones attempting to control the entire region. They are the oppressors.
But you're quite right. Without some of those rockets passing through, they wouldn't have anything to print about Hamas causing "great terror and harm".
 
 
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5:15 PM
anyone know what's the fastest way to type a strong (say, 128bit) password? Or in other words, what's the best format for a strong password, supposing you need to type it
Pass phrases have words, which are supposed to be easier to read and type than a bunch of random chars, but if you think about it, typing a whole word takes time
so three lowercase random alphanumeric chars like "t8z" have the same entropy (36^3) of a random word chosen from a list of 46656 words, and such a list definitely contains words that take time to type.
End of the random useless thought of the day
 
 
3 hours later…
8:29 PM
@reed Diceware, generally. You need to type more, but it's easier to type.
@nobody I think their defense system is actually more like 5% effective, so 95% pass through the defense system. The issue is due to how the interceptor missiles work (they need to hit the rockets head-on as the explosives are in the body, not the head). However Hamas missiles are unguided, so even though 95% pass through, they generally fall short of their target.
But they need to maintain the facade of the Iron Dome being so vital that they play up just how effective it is in order to secure more hundreds of millions of funding from the US.
 
8:45 PM
Hey.
 
hey
 
lol. IDF bombing news buildings now.
 
Fucking seriously?
 
Now Palestinians cannot even report whats going on!
Yeah. Happened earlier.
Housed offices of Al Jazeera and associated press.
Blew up the entire building.
 
> There was confusion when the IDF said shortly after midnight that ground forces were 'attacking in Gaza', but it was a trick to get Hamas fighters into the tunnels before bombing the network.
 
8:47 PM
Two international media organisations located in that building.
 
holy fuck
 
As well as multiple other media organisations.
Now they're making it so Palestine cannot even report the genocide.
 
I really, really hope the rest of the world is getting angry.
 
This must be a genocide now.
How is this different to Hitler killing jews?
It's not. The jews also couldn't report the killings.
This is no different. At all.
 
It's been a genocide for decades.
 
8:48 PM
Well, yes.
I agree. But does the worlds human rights organisation agree? No. What about the UN? Neither.
In-fact, nobody with any chance of having any influence at all agrees. Quite the opposite.
Most of them in-fact support it.
 
The UN is rather anti-Israel. It's just that no one listens to them.
And Israel threatens sanctions on any country that refuses to vote against anti-Israel measures in the UN (IIRC they threatened Finland with violence if they didn't vote against a measure to consider Palestine its own country).
 
Yeah, they also don't seem to do an awful lot in general. Just make useless public statements.
"we stand by palestine".
DO you? WHy did another school just get blown up then?
"well, we stand by palestine"
> and an Israeli intelligence officer in which Husam asks the officer to give the media personnel time to evacuate equipment from their offices. His request was denied.
"BuT PaLeStInE aRe FiGhTiNg BaCk"
oh yeah? why was a request not granted to at least GET OUT THE BUILIDNG THEN.
HUH?
Where's your fucking "PALESTINE ARE FIGHTING BACK" argument now?
God, I am so fuckin' angry.
What POSSIBLE fucking action could a person in a building about to get blown up take that at least allowing them time to evacuate would cause?
I mean, really. If your argument is actually: "hamas are fighting back" after reading a statement like that then you're a fucking IMBECILE.
(as if you were not one before that)
I wonder how the palestine marches went in the uk today
no doubt the police tried to invade them and break them up
> people to keep moving down the road as numbers continued to swell and dozens of police officers lined nearby streets.

The Metropolitan police said they had a plan in place “to ensure everybody is kept safe and to reduce the spread of Covid-19”.
Yeah, that old excuse hey..
"we will ensure everybody is safe"
is coded language for: "when the chief of police tells us to get you out of here, we're gonna do it and violently"
I actually cannot cope with the world anymore
its just sick.
 
9:03 PM
@forest Do they even need to secure the funding? I was under the impression that they could order the US to give any arbitrary amount of "funding" anytime they wanted :)
 
Well, the US budget for Israeli weapons was some 290 billion this year.
 
Pretty much.
 
So yeah they can call as much as they wish from that 290 billion
and im sure theyd get more if they asked nicely.
funny because the uk government also routinely offers to give them money for arms
 
@Jis12yearsold. Remember... you're a hacker. You can make a difference.
 
"the uk isnt that bad"
"J always says the UK is bad, but its first world"
 
9:06 PM
So this is something I can't come up with any plausible explanation for. Why do the western govs have a sense of duty towards Israel?
They never get anything back
 
Well, in the words of biggie smalls...
"mo money, mo problems"
:)
 
Oil and guilt. Having Israel on their side means they control the Middle East.
Which is a strategic stronghold.
Also, oil.
 
Yup, same reason why the UK gives money to UAE for arms and did so when they invaded Yemen.
 
@forest I don't buy that. It always seems to me Israel is in control, not them
 
Because that gives them contropl over the middle east.
 
9:07 PM
@nobody Israel is ostensibly in control, but if the world stopped giving them bombs, they would fall. Israel is only in control because they know that the US needs them.
 
It is also pretty important to remember that the west thinks the middle east is a pure shit show.
They don't like the culture, not one bit. They never havce.
This is why throughout history the US and the UK and others have routinely gone to war there.
 
I mean, I don't like the culture either. But I don't think they should be put through genocide.
 
They say Muslims want to take over the west.
All the meanwhile trying to take over the east.
But its okay if the west do it
"theyre on the righjt side"
 
Shit, as soon as an interesting discussion starts, I have to leave
 
@forest Well, not only not put through genocide but it is their lands to have and to keep.
I absolutely do not agree with the idea of trying to take someone elses land so you can have your own policies on it.
It isn't your land to take.
As much as they wish tio hate the middle east, that is their land.
Are there problems and conflicts? Yes, lots.
 
9:10 PM
If a person broke into my house and slept in my bed, and then took out a gun when I tried to go into my room, I would be in my right to kill them.
 
Well, exactly.
This is my point, the west love to make this big thing about "helping" the east, but they don't.
They want to control it themselves. They have no interest in "helping" it.
The only time the west have any interest in "helping" the middle east is when they can make money from it.
Invading Iraq is an example.
 
Like I said, you're a hacker. You can make a difference. :P
No need to sit and worry. You can screw with Israel in many ways, even if only slightly.
 
Yeah...
I've had a lot of thoughts about that.
 
I do what I can as well, but since I'm blue team, my focus is on defensive training.
 
I know one thing for sure, I would have a totally different life if I was single.
I'd have given up with all of this a long time ago and started taking drastic actions.
I am just really thankful her family do not live in Gaza.
Else this whole thing would be extremely different. I'd be even more upset which I am not even sure could be possible.
damn only studied for 7 hours today
guess im going to have a late night
 
9:22 PM
7 hours is still a lot.
Make sure you focus on quality over quantity.
Many hours of low-quality study is worse than a few hours of high-quality study.
 
Yeah, but I like to try and do at least a full work day.
But its okay. I guess.
I'm writing custom shellcode right now so
its quite boring...
i might go insane if i do too much more, actually.
 
Shellcode for what?
 
bind and reverse shell
 
ah
Is it much different in Windows to do a reverse shell?
I know nothing of Windows networking syscalls.
 
Hmm, quite different, yeah.
Its actually quite a damn lot of work
 
9:24 PM
How so?
 
You gotta' get the kernel32 module, then resolve all the functions, then get a module from it, then get ws2 then you gotta call wsastartup, wsasocket, wsaconnect, create a cmd string then call createprocessa
and then you're done.
now you have a reverse shell
you have to patch all of the arguments of course as well, for those functions.
its a good 200 or so lines of assembly
 
You can't just... call syscalls directly?
Is this complexity due to some security feature or just bad design?
 

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