The DMZ

Anonymous

11:00 PM

I'm always really fascinated by what it takes to get into a position where you're considered a world expert on something.

Anonymous

I guess its still very much an ongoing study.

Anonymous

We don't really know, right.

forest

Intelligence. Commitment. And luck.

Anonymous

But its some mix of incredibly hard work, passion, intelligence.

Anonymous

and luck.

Anonymous

11:01 PM

Yeah, I lack the first one. So the last two are my best shot.

Anonymous

I don't know if I am someone who believes that hard work can eventually outweigh just being smart.

Anonymous

some people believe that but i think its a fairy tale.

forest

You're plenty intelligent. Remember, intelligence != knowledge.

Anonymous

i guess thats a good point. i always equal those two but they're not the same you'reright

Anonymous

you can learn just about anything

Anonymous

11:02 PM

so you make a goodpoint

forest

Like spender may be more intelligent than you, but there was a time when he knew less than you do now about exploit dev. His intelligence allowed him to rise to the top quickly (he's like, 20 something).

But his knowledge is what he accumulated and what really makes him impressive.

Anonymous

20 something that is beyond impressive :D

Anonymous

i better work harder

forest

Same for everyone else like lcamtuf, comex, thestinger, thejh.

Anonymous

you know for some reason this reminded me of something

Anonymous

11:04 PM

its not directly related but i read a quote that made me laugh it was

Anonymous

"the problem i find with people who think very logically is that if their logic fails they don't know how else to think so they just get very angry"

Anonymous

no idea why i thought about that but it came to my mind on this topic

forest

Sounds about right.

Anonymous

and i think its quite true, well for me at least

Anonymous

thejh is one of my idols

Anonymous

11:05 PM

just the sheer amount of things he breaks in different areas

Anonymous

i always found that so fascinating.

forest

He's also a really young guy. In his 20s. :P

Anonymous

yeah

Anonymous

thats also why i like him so much

Anonymous

because he know so much so young

forest

11:06 PM

Some people just get this stuff really early.

Anonymous

its a good representation of what a human can really achieve

forest

Others discover it only after time.

And as impressive as it may be, all I care about is the results.

10 people coming up with something brilliant in a year or one person coming up with something brilliant in a month... It doesn't matter as long as we have something brilliant to learn from.

Anonymous

i like that quote!

forest

@Jis12yearsold. Oh, a book recommendation: The Linux Programming Interface.

Anonymous

but its a quote now...

forest

11:07 PM

I might have mentioned it before, but it's good if you want to learn how the kernel interacts with userspace.

Anonymous

well, its your own words.

Anonymous

Yeah, I believe you did mention it before because I have it on my desk :D

forest

haha

Big book huh?

Anonymous

heh yueah its like

Anonymous

over 1000 pages

Anonymous

11:09 PM

something like that

forest

1500 I think.

Read it from front to back. Takes time but I learned a lot from it, myself.

Anonymous

oh wow

Anonymous

yeah i have a lot of books on ym desk

Anonymous

most of them are recommended by you

Anonymous

i plan on reading them all at some point in time

forest

11:10 PM

A little annoyed that he doesn't go into low-level interfaces. I prefer low-level syscalls, whereas he likes high-level libc functions. They often overlap, but not always.

Anonymous

unrelated but

Anonymous

i just checked the news

Anonymous

israel are now bombing from the sea

Anonymous

as well as the air

Anonymous

and are invading on foot

forest

11:12 PM

wow

The rest of the world is going to get pretty mad at them.

Anonymous

and just firing into gaza aimlessly

forest

fuckers

Anonymous

they're now apparently lining up tanks on the border

forest

This is going to backfire on them so hard.

Anonymous

even moving into tunnels and blowing up subways

forest

11:13 PM

Holy fuck.

Anonymous

i am really thankful that none of my girlfriends family live in gaza

Anonymous

else that would be really, really bad.

Anonymous

you know whats so fucked up

Anonymous

the uk media are still saying "but Palestinians are fighting back"

Anonymous

yhes of course they are...

Anonymous

11:15 PM

they're undergoing a fucking apartheid

Anonymous

of course they're fighting back

forest

mhm

Anonymous

look at these quotes, tell me what you see.

Anonymous

> Antony Blinken, said Washington was “deeply concerned about the violence in the streets of Israel”

forest

And the criticism of Hamas operating from civilian areas... What do people expect? Them to open up a military establishment and it not get destroyed instantly?

Anonymous

11:16 PM

> A spokesman for the German chancellor, Angela Merkel, said the rocket fire by Hamas against Israel amounted to “terrorist attacks”.

forest

jesus

Anonymous

Do you see ANY condemnation of Israel?

Anonymous

None.

Anonymous

Not one single word.

forest

Time to donate to Hamas lol

Anonymous

11:17 PM

At what point does this become a genocide and not an apartheid? That's my question.

Anonymous

Over 120 Palestinians dead. And how many Israeli's less than 20.

Anonymous

So when is this a genocide? 300 dead? 600 dead? 1000 dead?

forest

I thought Palestine deaths were up to 500.

Anonymous

Oh, you might be right. 120 Palestinians dead in just Gaza.

forest

Fun fact: In Germany, it's considered holocaust denial to compare Israel's treatment of Palestine to Nazi treatment of the Jews, even if you don't deny anything in the holocaust whatsoever.

Anonymous

11:19 PM

Wow... What. The. Fuck.

forest

Same with accusing Israel of being racist or genocidal.

I'm sure @MechMK1 has more information about that.

Anonymous

Also, someone here said that US don't contribute to Israel's weapons. Except their budget had around 296 billion dollars for this exact reason.

Anonymous

SO....

forest

haha

Anonymous

LOok at this website.

Anonymous

11:22 PM

Israelis Killed by Palestinian Terrorism

Anonymous

Palestinians Killed by Palestinians

forest

Depressing.

Anonymous

No count for Palestinians killed by Israelis.

Anonymous

because nobody sees Palestinians as people

Anonymous

its fucking sickening

Anonymous

11:23 PM

even the leftist news papers

Anonymous

are condemning hamas

Anonymous

and praising the idf

forest

I'm a leftist myself, which is why I'm so pissed off at where the left is going.

This is the kind of thing that has resulted in my general disdain for human life.

Anonymous

The left is becoming very right, in this country especially.

forest

Here too.

Anonymous

11:24 PM

Not sure about in the US, although I suspect.

Anonymous

Yeah, figured.

Anonymous

@forest Yeah, you can count me into that too...

Anonymous

The current leftist party leader is basically just David Cameron in red.

forest

They're two sides of the same coin. They both support the same racist, authoritarian kleptocracy.

Anonymous

David Cameron the same man involved in a lobbying scandal.

Anonymous

11:25 PM

Who also contributed to austerity massively.

Anonymous

The left in this country are being removed by people claiming to be on the left when theyre very much not taking their seats.

forest

1) Write ransomware. 2) Donate profits to Hamas. 3) ??? 4) Profit!

Anonymous

Hahah :D

Anonymous

I mean, I am not going to say there are not problems with Hamas.

forest

Not that I'm a huge fan of Hamas.

heh

Anonymous

11:26 PM

There very much are, my girlfriend will tell you herself what it can be like as a woman to live in Palestine.

forest

But yeah, they're better than the IDF.

Anonymous

Yeah, precisely.

forest

People who say Hamas are terrorists think they're like ISIS.

Anonymous

Once the IDF are fucked off, then Hamas can be sorted out or toned down.

forest

When they're nothing like them whatsoever.

The average American likely thinks that Hamas has attackers who go and decapitate random people while shouting "allahhu akbar!" Instead of, you know, being a legit military wing.

Anonymous

11:27 PM

Yeah, my girlfriend knows a lot about this than me but in the Palestinian political landscape Hamas are considered far right. But they are not ISIS.

forest

That's because Hamas is pragmatic, whereas ISIS are extremists.

Anonymous

And right now, Hamas are basically the only hope that Palestinians have.

Anonymous

WIthout someone bombing the idf back, or trying to..

Anonymous

palestine would have been gone already

Anonymous

totally wiped off the map, their identity gone also.

forest

11:29 PM

If that was being done to the Jews, everyone would be screaming "genocide!".

Anonymous

i mean also world politics has a part to play but

Anonymous

@forest Yes, exactly.

forest

Even if Hamas has no hope in fighting, more and more countries are getting sick of Israel.

Anonymous

This is what is so reprehensible.

Anonymous

There are very few people who see Palestinians as humans or their own group of people.

Anonymous

11:29 PM

And the Israeli's say "we want integration" but their price for that is for palestinians to revoke their entire heritage and religion and identity.

forest

And don't get me wrong. I have no problem with Jews, just Israeli zionists/nationalists.

Anonymous

SO thats not integration. it's genocide.

forest

right

Anonymous

@forest Oh same.

forest

On an unrelated note, stop harassing kids in the park! :D

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A: Annoying kid at the park

I'd say that JJ is jealous, which I can understand. It's very difficult to not be able to get stuff like a trampoline when some 9yr old does! Jealousy is a very complex emotion, I can understand they're not reacting properly too it (not saying JJ's right, just saying I understand, he's a kid why...

Anonymous

11:31 PM

I don't have a problem with anyone at all.

Anonymous

HAHAHAHHA

Anonymous

I promise that isn't me..

forest

lol

The funny thing is that OP didn't even say JJ. He said J.

Anonymous

Hhahahahaha, yes that is quite strange

Anonymous

oh

Anonymous

11:33 PM

I think this is why "J. J is an "

forest

Yeah I think so too.

Anonymous

I guess since martjin first language isnt english he read it as "jj"

Anonymous

either that or this guy was here before

Anonymous

and i really pissed him off...

Anonymous

oh man...

Anonymous

11:35 PM

it seems like bali might close foreign travel or place more restrictions

Anonymous

because of idiots... it seems so beautiful too.

forest

Because covid?

Anonymous

No, people being stupid. They had to deport 60 people just this year.

Anonymous

One girl drew on a fake face mask in a store for a "prank".

Anonymous

One couple filmed a porn film on a mountain where lots of tourists go.

Anonymous

11:37 PM

Lots of tourists refusing to wear masks. Not being aware or careful towards their culture or just general social practices and decency.

forest

@Jis12yearsold. haha wow

Anonymous

I mean, the good thing is, they need tourism to survive.

Anonymous

But they can place more restrictions on people intending to go from the beginning. Since there is already quite an in-depth visa requirement with multiple parts.

forest

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Q: Were there any cases where one tried to falsify evidence with DeepFake?

Were there any cases, anywhere in the world, where one tried to falsify evidence with Deepfake, which is a technology powered by AI to create fake facial videos?

evidence

huh, interesting

Anonymous

WOW.

Anonymous

11:39 PM

That is really interesting.

Anonymous

I never heard about this.

forest

I'm not surprised, but I am dismayed. I imagine this will become a big issue in the near future as the technology behind these kinds of algorithms improves.

Anonymous

Yeah, for sure.

Anonymous

Side note: the guy who answered might be one of the most British people I've ever come across.

forest

How so?

Anonymous

11:41 PM

I went on his Twitter.

Anonymous

He reads a magazine or podcast, or something called "the weekly knob"

Anonymous

That is the most British thing I've seen in itself.

Anonymous

Quite funny though.

forest

heh

Anonymous

Anyway, I am getting quite tired. So I am going to go and see if I can find that Bali mountain amateur porn before bed :D

Anonymous

11:43 PM

(kidding)

Anonymous

goodnight.

forest

lol

night

@Jis12yearsold. newsweek.com/…

You notice how it starts out pro-Palestine? But that doesn't last.

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