The DMZ

JukEboX

13:02

@Simon I concur

kalina

now look, when there's no drama, chat is quiet

also apparently the things I chat about are boring

so somebody else can choose a topic

Simon

weens

kalina

I can't believe that what I chat about is boring but chatting about weens is not boring

Simon

These earbuds are so freaking bass dry.

WHERE'S MY LOW END

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JukEboX

I need some help

user11842

13:12

@JukEboX I'm watching this. I want to see if this goes down the same way it does in the C++ lounge.

kalina

@Simon you're sat on it

@TechnikEmpire hm?

JukEboX

@TechnikEmpire If asking for help gets you flamed?

Rоry McCune

we could talk about the new Killer app. for VR that's coming out soon...

store.steampowered.com/app/447270

user11842

@JukEboX yeah lol

Simon

It is known that anybody who does C++ is a bad person anyway.

Rоry McCune

13:13

I know I can't wait

user11842

@Simon Being that I "do" C++ and am a bad person, I agree with you.

kalina

there are three lines of people in here

why is this happening

this used to be one and a half lines at peak time of which half were afk

and now this

JukEboX

I transferred one of my websites from my hosting (Running PHP 5.6 and MySQL 5.5) to a new hosting running (PHP 5.6 and MySQL 5.5).

Simon

@TechnikEmpire Seriously, who wants to deal with pointers?!?

kalina

> PHP

^ problem found

JukEboX

13:15

The site on the new hosting is throwing index and fetch errors but on my the old hosting everything works correctly

The new hosting is a complete 1 to 1 carbon copy

kalina

called it

user11842

@Simon But it's so much fun being passed a raw nerve ending into your hardware and not knowing for sure what will happen if you poke it.

JukEboX

@kalian thanks for you help. Much appreciated

kalina

yw

unfortunately you haven't provided enough information for actual assistance

Simon

@JukEboX Is the local IP the same as before?

JukEboX

13:16

Local IP of the MySQL Database @Simon ??

Simon

Of the machine hosting the MySQL, yes.

kalina

databases don't have an IP address

Simon

Maybe you binded the service on a specific IP and now it's a different one.

Otherwise I have no idea, I'd need to see the actual error/infrastructure.

JukEboX

@Simon The old DB used to be localhost the new connection is to MySQL.newhosting.com

@Simon The database is working and is pulling the data

kalina

can you connect to the mysql instance with the credentials and connectivity details the application is using

inb4'd by @JukEboX :(

sad day

Simon

13:18

@JukEboX Where are the errors seen?

kalina

in the web browser

SmokeDispenser

@kalina :D

JukEboX

@kalian yes I can. I am able to get into the phpmyadmin as well as it shows pulling the data on the page

kalina

@JukEboX so your page starts to render and then errors?

JukEboX

@kalian it renders but shows MySQL WARNING errors on the places it is having trouble referencing

kalina

13:19

so do you fancy showing us some of these errors?

Simon

Did you google the exact error message?

JukEboX

@kalian I am trying to get to them from here but work internet blocking me. Bare with me

kalina

I wish you would spell my name right at least once

Mark Buffalo

@RоryMcCune Saw it. Not surprised, really.

JukEboX

@Simon I did but nothing really helped me without rewriting all my code. I don't have time for that and if it is working on my old hosting then it should work on my new hosting

SmokeDispenser

13:21

@kalina, I like how he keeps not highlighting you

Simon

@JukEboX Well clearly there's something different on the new site.

JukEboX

@kalina I typing you name in using @ and then tab on your name. It shows @kalina but when I press tab it changes to @kalian

kalina

@JukEboX have you considered perhaps rewriting all of your code? You know... in a good language?

user11842

@JukEboX It doesn't really work that way. I can have two machines with the same php and mysql and have them configured to function wildly different from one another

kalina

@JukEboX are you using Microsoft Edge?

JukEboX

13:22

@Simon @TechnikEmpire I am trying to figure out what is different. I haven't changed much of anything in the php.ini file so it should be all default.

silverpenguin

SmokeDispenser

@kalina still bashing on the PHP? one PHP bash is free per PHP "developer" and chat account per hour, not more;)

JukEboX

@kalina no Google Chome

Rоry McCune

@kalina pls no-one uses edge

kalina

@SmokeDispenser sorry you don't make the rules

@RоryMcCune I used Edge all of yesterday

Simon

13:23

@kalina Sounds like according to roro, you're no one.

JukEboX

@Simon @TechnikEmpire Anywhere specific I can look to compare my php and MySQL configurations other than the php.ini file?

Rоry McCune

@Simon p.l.s stop stirring somon

kalina

@Simon wow that really hurts I shall cry now :'(

SmokeDispenser

@kalina everything else is just hitting people already on the ground;)

Simon

:D:D:D:D

Rоry McCune

13:24

@Simon meany

kalina

@SmokeDispenser no a true PHP developer is oblivious and thinks you're laughing with them

Simon

HEY I'm not the one who said it

user11842

@JukEboX I think fully enabling debugging is a start and specific error messages

silverpenguin

@Simon I guess not all canadians are bad... well played...well played

SmokeDispenser

@kalina :DDDD

silverpenguin

13:24

@kalina wait you are not laughing with me?

user11842

@silverpenguin I'm Canadian. I'm sorry.

kalina

er... o;)

JukEboX

@TechnikEmpire I will try and get some errors to show you later today. I am sure that will help a lot more

kalina

(that's a halo)

Simon

MEAN CANADIAN MASTER RACE

kalina

13:25

haha mean canadians

there's no such thing

silverpenguin

@TechnikEmpire man, we could have been friends, why did you have to fess up to having a flappy head and beady little eyes

@kalina yea! canadians are just a myth

kalina

don't forget fart jokes

user11842

@silverpenguin lol I've never heard of that before

user11842

@silverpenguin Allow me to apologize for not getting your joke

Simon

@TechnikEmpire He's referring to Terrance and Philip from SP.

silverpenguin

13:27

@TechnikEmpire you....you.... are just apolgising this much to mess with me right?

Simon

user11842

@Simon Oh, Television. I just puked in my mouth a bit.

kalina

oh, you weren't being sarcastic?

I've just lol'd for no reason

what a waste of a lol

silverpenguin

Blame Canada - South Park: Bigger Longer & Uncut (3/9) Movie CLIP (1999) HD

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user11842

@kalina About? I'm sorry you wasted a lol. Can I get you a new one?

Simon

13:28

@TechnikEmpire Are you in the West?

user11842

@Simon Ontario, the butthole of buttholes

Simon

I see.

kalina

@TechnikEmpire don't worry I have no doubt my lol will be fully recharged by the time I next need it

user11842

@kalina Oh goodness this is great news. I can sleep better today.

silverpenguin

@TechnikEmpire cant tell if being sarcastic or if just 100% canadian

Rory Alsop

13:31

... Or maybe BOTH!!!

user11842

@silverpenguin Both? None? Whatever one is acceptable?

Simon

Acceptance is overrated.

Rоry McCune

@TechnikEmpire another canadian... what is this place all aboot, you're like the 4th one!

silverpenguin

@Simon control your fellow canadian

Simon

He does not need to be controlled, he's doing very well on his own.

user11842

13:31

@RоryMcCune Oh man nobody says aboot. lol

Rory Alsop

It's okay @Rоry - we've stolen one. If we can get him to change his name appropriately, all is good :-)

silverpenguin

@Simon he is too polite for this room :P

he might bring up the DMZ standards

we cant have that

Rоry McCune

@TechnikEmpire pls I've seen TV I know how it goes it's all "aboot" and fur trappers and people crushing other people's heads

Simon

wat

user11842

@silverpenguin I was going to say something really ignorant to this, but not sure if ban hammer will come down.

Rоry McCune

13:32

@RoryAlsop good call we should remind him of that requirement

silverpenguin

@TechnikEmpire nahh say it come on! do it

Rоry McCune

@Simon please tell me you know about the kids in the hall

silverpenguin

tempts like the devil

Simon

@RоryMcCune I'm sorry </canaduh>

user11842

@RоryMcCune You're actually right, I'm currently wearing the last bear that ponied with me while I was out sculpting the raw landscape with my bare hands.

Simon

13:33

dayum.

Rоry McCune

Kids in the Hall: Head Crusher

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Simon

I FOUND SOMEONE WHO WILL BITE THE BULLET FOR ME

YAAAAY

Rory Alsop

Heh heh heh (sniggering into my hands)

user11842

lol

Rоry McCune

TRAPPER - Kids in the Hall

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silverpenguin

13:34

@Simon dont put your self down like that, we wouldnt have questioned if you said something bigger than a bullet

M'vy

@Simon Pointers aren't that bad. And C++ added references as well

Simon

@RоryMcCune jeeeezus

user11842

@RоryMcCune never heard of this show.

Rоry McCune

oh warning that last video is likely NSFW

@TechnikEmpire canadian sketch comedy show, it was/is famous

Simon

@TechnikEmpire That's because we have standards.

user11842

13:35

@RоryMcCune yeah, I was lying.

Simon

Oh.

Rоry McCune

@Simon ha, looks like it's just you

Simon

Screw you then.

kalina

@TechnikEmpire it does seem to be a frequent fear today, don't worry though, the regulars don't really raise flags in here

so even if you do get banned, it doesn't mean the active majority dislike you

Adi

OH MY GOD! I feel soooo stupid right now

pastebin.com/t4NtjpSx

Simon

13:36

@kalina Frequent fear is also a nickname of my ween.

Adi

Copy the content into a .html file and open it in Chrome

Rоry McCune

@Simon actually you remind me of this kids in the hall sketch!

The Kids in the Hall - Fight-Picking Guy (all 3)

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Adi

I've never doubted that what is inside the double quotes would be considered a string

kalina

@Simon why would it incite fear on a regular basis?

Edge 14291 has extensions guys

Adi

@Simon You're the HTML guy. WTF, dude!

Simon

13:38

@Adi That's funny.

That's actually really weird.

It literally ignores the first quote.

Adi

Of course, it makes perfect sense. The only way the parser knows where JS is is by looking for <script>

kalina

as opposed to figuratively ignoring it?

Adi

and it sees it's closed

So, of course it'll assume the script has ended

but still very counter-intuitive to me

Which shows me how my intuition is wrong

Thus,

3 mins ago, by Adi

OH MY GOD! I feel soooo stupid right now

kalina

is it counter intuitive though?

Simon

It's a really honest mistake though.

Adi

13:40

24 secs ago, by Adi

Which shows me how my intuition is wrong

kalina

surely whatever is parsing it would be navigating by tags first and then execute whatever it finds after it has parsed the contents between the tags?

I mean html is a tag driven language

Adi

I'm embarrassed that I thought it was counter intuitive

kalina

why would it work any other way?

M'vy

#howToParseDOM

Adi

@M'vy Umm

:D

user11842

13:41

@kalina I thought this was never going to happen

Adi

Now you should be embarrassed

Simon

@Adi So, if you want to avoid it, the solution is to escape the slash?

M'vy

I don't really care actually

kalina

I guess if you're coming from a proper development background you'd be potentially treating the html as the end goal and are used to the code executing first

Adi

@M'vy Cool

@Simon I actually don't know. I'll test

M'vy

13:43

I bet there is kind of "error recovery" thing going on in your problem

Simon

@Adi Yeah it works.

M'vy

did not even ran it

Adi

@Simon Cool

M'vy

cause browser probably don't want to display "broken" pages and therefore accept any ill-formed HTML.

Simon

Escaping > works too, but not <.

@M'vy HTML has been designed to be veeeery forgiving, yes.

M'vy

13:45

I'd argue on the "has been designed" part, but that'd probably be trolling.

Adi

I found out when I saw that a URL parameter is being appended to one JS variable. So I tried to "escape out of the string" by using double quotes, but it was encoded

To me, that seemed like a good solution

kalina

@Simon surely you mean html rendering engines have been designed to be forgiving of bad html?

Adi

If you can't close the string, you're good to go

But then the script close tag

You can simple close, open, alert, close.

There you have XSS

M'vy

firefox does the same "; console.log(test); display btw.

Adi

Yup. I'd assume that's just proper HTML parsing

Thanks for verifying with me, guys

kalina

13:47

I didn't help, sorry

M'vy

I'd think " would take precedence over the tag, but I guess it does not

Adi

@kalina I think you did. You challenging some of the statements helped me rethink them

You were very helpful as well. Thank you

M'vy

15:45:25.606 SyntaxError: unterminated string literal test.html:3:11

No shit Sherlock

kalina

@Adi -.-

Adi

@kalina What?

M'vy

13:50

@adi var test = '...... </scr'+'ipt>......';

From SO :)

Adi

Hahahahaha

That's one solution for it I guess

Rоry McCune

@Adi I think @kalina is unnerved by niceness :)

Adi

I wasn't being nice. I actually thought her input was helpful

Rоry McCune

@Adi well that's a nice thing of you to say ...

i.e. you weren't saying it to be nice, but to be accurate, however it was still and objectively "nice" statement

Adi

Oh, I now see the distinction. Thanks for explaining

kalina

13:53

yes my sarcasm detector fails

so rather than react like you're being positive and possibly making a fool out of myself I just react neutrally biased towards negative

Mark Buffalo

I eat boogers

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kalina

ew.

Simon

What's up with you and boogers lately Markus?

Adi

Cool

kalina

I already know everything about @MarkBuffalo as a result of some late night facial recognition

Simon

13:55

What's his real name?

kalina

Really? He left his phone on his desk and the best you could come up with is "I eat boogers" ?

Mark Buffalo

Dammit

kalina

@MarkBuffalo you sir, failed at everything this room stands for

Mark Buffalo

Dammit I missed one

kalina

I hope you're proud

Mark Buffalo

13:56

@kalina I have?

;)

Simon

WHAT'S UP WITH THE DAMN WINK OVERLOAD LATELY

kalina

@MarkBuffalo you left your mobile phone of all things unlocked in public and stepped away from it

Mark Buffalo

No I didnt. I'm making things up for fun

kalina

@Simon what a bunch of winkers

Simon

am female pls wink at me

Mark Buffalo

13:57

Booooored, and trying to rile you up

@kalina orly

@Simon ;)

kalina

@MarkBuffalo pls it's not hard to find a 4 meter tall giant

Mark Buffalo

Lulz

silverpenguin

I need some new music im sooo boorrrrreeedddddd

I dont know how i am going to last 6 months of being unemployeed

Mark Buffalo

@silverpenguin Just lost your job, or...?

Some Guy

We The Kings - Just Keep Breathing (Official Lyric Video)

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silverpenguin

13:59

@MarkBuffalo I took a pay off

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