The DMZ

David Freitag

18:00

@JeffFerland :x

silverpenguin

@DavidFreitag vms for what :3

David Freitag

@silverpenguin Various things. Testing programs/servers and linux dev stuff

Ohnana

@DavidFreitag WTAF

David Freitag

@Ohnana That's only like 10 or 12

Ohnana

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Q: Client-side BCrypt, store salt and hash separately in MySQL database

I’m developing an Android app with a MySQL database for storing user login credentials. I’m using jBCrypt for encrypting passwords before storing them on the database. On registration, the password is encrypted on client-side as follows: String salt = BCrypt.gensalt(); String hash = BCrypt.hash...

If i'm reading this right, If you send the hash to the client, an evil client can make a password attempt for an account they don't own, listen to what you send for the comparison and then crack the hash at their leisure to gain access.

or am i just spinnin my wheel

David Freitag

18:10

@Ohnana Sounds right to me

silverpenguin

@Ohnana I hope he isnt using b-crypt encryption and is using the hash algo

Ohnana

@silverpenguin there's an edit in the queue for that

they use "hash" everywhere else so they hosed it

Simon

@Ohnana You're a leisure.

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Q: How to behave with women in my company when it's International Women's Day?

Today I woke up and remembered that today is International Women's Day. I am not exactly the person who likes to greet and give wishes to everyone, and I am often kinda embarrassed when I have to do so "by force" (like in family reunions etc.) So today I was really undecided on what to do, wheth...

professionalism communication colleagues company-culture

fkin_shoot_me_now

Ohnana

@Simon OP is from italy

TildalWave

please don't approve edits fixing OP's misapprehensions in questions... those should be addressed in answers, not fixed in questions (cc @Ohnana @Simon)

Ohnana

18:17

it's a bit like secretaries day in the USA

@TildalWave which edit are you speaking to

TildalWave

@Ohnana security.stackexchange.com/review/suggested-edits/71218

Simon

The hash/encrypt one.

Rоry McCune

@Adi shiney! tricky one for you to get to, I'd imagine, would work pay?

Ohnana

they said hash everywhere else in the question

i assumed it was an oversight like a spelling or grammar error

Simon

Considering that the OP did type "hash" at some point and was juggling with encryption and hash in his question, it's fair to assume that he knows the difference.

@Ohnana That's how I saw it too.

silverpenguin

18:19

@StuW we have been expecting you

Simon

@silverpenguin No we haven't, shut top.

TildalWave

@Ohnana Then why fix that single instance? Seems to me the edit was suggested only to bump the thread by the author of so far its single answer. It wasn't even a good or needed edit.

silverpenguin

@Simon is grouchy needs more donuts

Ohnana

@TildalWave fair point, usually i reject one-word edits but that kind of correction is helpful for others reading

also there's a badge for edit + answer

so it's not like that's abuse of the site, it's encouraged behavior

TildalWave

for substantial edits actually improving questions, yes

Simon

18:21

@TildalWave It was needed. A ton of people confuse hash/encryption, let's go make some readers go like "wot".

TildalWave

not for trivial bump edits

Simon

Anyway, what are you gonna do, non-mod tildol?

fkin_rekt

TildalWave

I was never a mod here you jelly donut

Simon

Doesn't matter, you could have at least kicked me from the chat.

Rоry McCune

@Simon are you having a caffeine/donut free day by any chance?

Simon

18:21

Now you can't do shit cuz u suk irl and in game

@RоryMcCune NO

Stu W

@silverpenguin hi

TildalWave

@Simon dude, does it look to you like I suffer from low self-esteem?

Simon

I'm gonna go get a tea @@@

@TildalWave ooooooooooooooooooo ovid_rekt

Rоry McCune

@Simon just you're crankier than usual...

Ohnana

i dunno, i'm going to stand by that edit

TildalWave

18:23

@Simon no, Ovid is a mod here, he's supposed to keep our jelly together

Stu W

@Simon tea sounds good - now earl grey or ceylon... difficult decision

Rоry McCune

@StuW I've got a fruit tea

attempting to cut back on coffee

Ohnana

peppermint tea is the best

Stu W

@RоryMcCune what type of fruit tea?

Ohnana

that and russian caravan

Simon

18:24

Hey Brits, I just made tea out of a Keurig, what are you gonna do, sue me?

Rоry McCune

@StuW this one is blackcurrent, ginseng and vanilla

Stu W

onto report no.3 of the day so have already drunk 4 coffees

Simon

@RоryMcCune Dunno, could be the naj weather.

Rоry McCune

@StuW oh noes, a 3 report day is never a good day!

Stu W

@simon as long as it wasnt an espresso machine or a microwave

that didnt go well either time

Ohnana

18:25

i've made tea with a microwave

it went okay

until i burnt myself on the mug

Simon

@Ohnana That's exactly why I never do it.

Inconvenient.

Stu W

is probably ok if you heat the water before you put the teabag in

but I tried to make tea with the kettle and found it had broken

so put the cold water and teabag into the microwave

and it got rather stewed

silverpenguin

I dont drink tea because I put 4 sugars in it and thats just bad

Ohnana

security.stackexchange.com/review/first-posts/71220

???

Simon

Why would you microwave a teabag? pls stu

silverpenguin

18:27

because people mock me

Ohnana

@StuW wow that's special

Simon

@AviD Happy women's day

Stu W

I had already poured cold water into the cup and unpouring it would have been difficult

as the teabag was in there too

Ohnana

take the teabag out

TildalWave

you're teabagging a cup of cold water? :O

silverpenguin

18:29

@Ohnana are you crazy? once the bag is in, the bag does not come out untill you are done

David Freitag

@silverpenguin TWSS

Ohnana

if it's in cold water, yeah you take that shit out

Stu W

I had solder residue and flux all over my hands and didnt think to wash them :/

Simon

@silverpenguin wat? You infuse your tea for like 20 minutes?

Stu W

someone in my office double bags

2

David Freitag

18:30

@StuW You'll be fine. There's nothing wrong with a little lead.

Stu W

their tea

Simon

@StuW That is so wrong.

silverpenguin

@Simon you need to let it brew @Simon its basic science. gawd

David Freitag

@Simon What's wrong with double bagging?

Ohnana

i double brew

for like 3 mins and i take it out to drink

Simon

18:31

@silverpenguin Yes, for about 5 minutes.

Ohnana

ppl who leave the teabags in are weird

Simon

^

David Freitag

I leave the bag in

Simon

Tea weirdos.

silverpenguin

@Simon for as long as it takes simon. as long as it takes...

Ohnana

18:31

(lookin at you @silverpenguin)

Simon

@silverpenguin NO

Ohnana

(u weird)

David Freitag

Only because I have nowhere else to put the bag

Stu W

I leave the bag in if it is green or fruity tea

Ohnana

@DavidFreitag SACRILDGE

Stu W

18:31

sometimes

David Freitag

and I'm sure as hell not going to get up and walk across the room to the trash just to throw out a tea bag

silverpenguin

i dont actually drink tea xD like i said last time i asked for a tea they looked at me funny... 4 sugars is over the line apprently

Simon

@silverpenguin wtf

David Freitag

@Ohnana What's it going to hurt by leaving the bag in? Sure I have to remember to hold the string otherwise I get hit in the face with a wet bag

Ohnana

@StuW i mean that's fine. if you leave it in for black teas, you get a ton of tannins and you can't freaking drink it

silverpenguin

18:32

@DavidFreitag that point where you either protect the floor and burn your hand or you let it drip and have to deal with it

David Freitag

@silverpenguin I have a concrete floor.

TildalWave

@StuW wait, so that means you're in possession of a very rudimentary induction heater... so what's the problem with the cold water then? just sink your soldering iron in it let it boil

silverpenguin

@DavidFreitag you dont know the pain...

David Freitag

@silverpenguin Oh, I know pain.

silverpenguin

@DavidFreitag massive bag pains

Stu W

18:33

@TildalWave i dont need to be crazy or poisoned even more

Ohnana

@DavidFreitag (ʘ ͜ʖ ʘ)

David Freitag

@silverpenguin Yeah I hate those massive bag pains

Ohnana

@StuW are you sure? lead tastes reallly good

David Freitag

@Ohnana ( ͡◉ ͜ ʖ ͡◉)

TildalWave

@StuW Poisoned by what? You don't clean your soldering iron, you dirty, dirty man? :)

Stu W

18:34

@TildalWave just the tip

3

TildalWave

LOL

David Freitag

@TildalWave You shouldn't need to clean a soldering iron

@StuW Just for a second? Just to see how it feels?

silverpenguin

im confused we were talking about how @StuW handles his bag and we have moved to talking about tips? :< this convo is way above my age rating

David Freitag

If you have to clean your iron it means you're doing something wrong.

TildalWave

@DavidFreitag c'mon that reply was gold

Stu W

18:36

@DavidFreitag desoldering crap seems to leave lots of carbon on it

Ohnana

uuuugh insulin letdown

good night everyone /falls asleep in sandwich wrapper

Simon

I wish I could sleep on my keyboard right now

David Freitag

@StuW Yeah you should clean the stuff you're desoldering before hand. That carbon residue is from dust etc

silverpenguin

@Simon thats how you get a computer virus

Simon

@silverpenguin What's a computer virus?

Rоry McCune

18:38

@Simon ahh that's why you're extra-grouchy... donut keeping you up at night again?

David Freitag

CCLeaner Analysis: 128,246 MB to be removed.

Hells yea

silverpenguin

-----no manatees here----

Simon

@RоryMcCune ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

David Freitag

huehuehue

silverpenguin

@Simon just wants love :<

Simon

18:39

o no it's the second roro

David Freitag

@silverpenguin Yeah "love"

Stu W

@DavidFreitag its a bargain £5 iron that i throw away and buy a new one - though guess I could clean the stuff with IPA first

silverpenguin

what is love baby dont hurt me

David Freitag

@StuW You should get a Hakko FX-888D. It's the one I have. $90 and it's fantastic.

amazon.com/Hakko-Digital-FX888D-Soldering-Station/dp/B00AWUFVY8

Simon

nurd

David Freitag

18:40

Also, those CHP170 cutters are phenomenal

Simon

You know what else is phenomenal? Getting ladies.

Ohnana

why is solder pronounced saw-der and not soll-derr

Simon

nurd

Ohnana

@Simon LIKE YOU'D KNOW

David Freitag

The only issue with the FX-888D is that the sponge that comes with it is completely useless. I'd recommend going to the dollar store and getting a cheapo one.

Simon

18:41

@Ohnana PLS OHNUHNUH

David Freitag

@Ohnana I pronounce it sodder

Simon

Erm, does the English voice sound weird to you guys: translate.google.com/#en/fr/solder

If you click "Listen"

Stu W

@DavidFreitag we have one of these in work aoyue.com/en/pro/default.asp?id=54 so am tempted to get one for home

David Freitag

I want to paste a book into that and hit "Listen". Free Audiobook.

@StuW Yeah I've used one before. The Hakko is better imo

TildalWave

@Ohnana because you're a mercan?

David Freitag

18:43

It's cheaper and it doesn't look like it's from 1970

Ohnana

@TildalWave idk

it looks like it should be soll-derr

David Freitag

@Ohnana So pronounce it that way and look like a numpty

Stu W

@DavidFreitag guess so - but SMD rework tool looks good as use that a bit

Ohnana

NU

Simon

UN

David Freitag

18:44

@StuW For hot air I have an Atten 858D

amazon.com/WEP-858D-Soldering-Station-Suitable/dp/B0055B6NGE/…

Stu W

@Ohnana is sole-der in the uk

David Freitag

Dirt cheep and I've used it for a few years with no issues

Simon

You're dirt cheap.

Stu W

@DavidFreitag looks decent - thanks :)

Simon

am soz

David Freitag

18:45

@StuW Comes with a few nozzles, but I'd recommend hitting eBay for a better selection

@Stu If you're in the UK or one of those countries that uses 220/240V instead of 110V both Atten and Hakko sell 240V versions

So you don't need a transformer

Stu W

@DavidFreitag I saw that :)

Simon

@RоryMcCune Of course I'm crankier today, look at these nurdz nurdying like a bunch of nurdy nurdz.

David Freitag

I love hard drive cleaning

380GB deleted

I <3 Windirstat

Rоry McCune

^this is how you solder, right?

Simon

Look at dem nurdz soldering

David Freitag

18:53

@RоryMcCune LOL

Three hospital trips right there

Rоry McCune

@Simon they're actually not nurdz, 'cause anyone holding a soldering iron like that would be sans fingers pretty fast

Ohnana

@RоryMcCune :|

Simon

o damn didn't notice

David Freitag

Also nobody would remove the platters from a hard drive unless they were wearing a bunny suit

Jeff Ferland

@DavidFreitag S3. About 50TB.

David Freitag

18:56

@JeffFerland Your porn collection is 50TB? That's impressive.

kalina

has there been an International Day of Women's Rights conversation in here today?

Rоry McCune

@kalina not AFAIK, would you like to have one now?

kalina

is there a point

Simon

30 mins ago, by Simon

@AviD Happy women's day

Ohnana

tbh, all i'm seeing is the twitter masturbation

Rоry McCune

18:58

@kalina dunno guv, I guess it depends what you would like to discuss?

Simon

@Ohnana Doesn't surprise me one bit.

Ohnana

we've already had the monthly "women on twitter" masturbation session for march, so i was confused as to why there was a second

however, UNICEF has had some quality points: recognizing women activists who have put a dent in injustice

reminding people that sexual assault and poverty are extremely dire situations in developing countries

etc, etc, so that part is nice.

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