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1:00 PM
"no, do that level again, that was amazing"
 
@Flyk lol - play it faster, and longer
 
"whatever you're doing... keep doing it!" - "I'm losing at the game... and keep exploding..." - "well, keep doing that"
 
now i'm imagining the vibration pattern for rise of the Valkyries
 
the bonus with the subpac, it just takes audio in
so a similar system in a more ergonomic form factor...
suddenly I take an interest in racing games
 
@Flyk lol
 
1:02 PM
"why are you spending several hours a day just revving your car"
who knows
I think there is a market for this
back into the land of serious conversation
 
@Flyk that is serious conversation. There's money in it...
 
when mine arrives I'll probably use it for gaming as well, I imagine that vibrations would add to immersion in gaming as well
although it's everything below 130Hz
rather than specific sounds
 
@Flyk yup, collisions, punches, gunshots - you name it.
 
yeah, all the deep thumps
music in games is usually quieter than the effects
so the effects should all stand out
 
@Flyk I can just buy both.
And wtf, it's a backpack.
 
1:07 PM
maybe turn off the music altogether, only input the game sound, and play music through another set of speakers
@Simon ...
I ordered the one that straps to a chair, I don't need a mobile solution
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MIDI implementation sucks on Logic on my TB-3, that's the only thing that I dislike very much about it.
 
if I spent any time worrying about how certain functions weren't implemented with any of my hardware, I'd spend all my time doing that
 
Adi
@TerryChia You here?
 
@Adi For a while more.
 
technically, yes
damn, I got inb4d
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oh no, @TerryChia is starring stuff
suddenly I'm seeing the perverse side of innocent statements
 
Adi
1:14 PM
@TerryChia Any private channel?
 
@Adi Hangouts?
 
@Flyk I looked into how Logic X plug-ins were made to improve the damn thing.
 
oooOOOooo
@Adi and @TerryChia are going to cyber on hangouts
 
@Adi terrycwk1994 at gmail
 
@Simon I don't own a TB3 and logic makes my brain itch but I heard of some things about a whole bunch of things not working over midi
 
1:15 PM
@TerryChia i'm going to send you an ecard
 
Adi
@TerryChia I have no clue what to do with that
Do I add you somewhere?
 
@Adi You have a gmail account?
 
@TerryChia signed up for spam
 
Adi
@TerryChia I tried something
 
@Adi Interesting name...
 
1:16 PM
@TerryChia some of the filthiest nastiest spam
like @AviD's blog
 
@Flyk Well, you press on the touchpad, you get the feedback instantly in Logic. Then, you press on the touchpad again 5 minutes later, you get a 1-2 second delay before you hear the sound.
It's horrible.
 
I assume he has a blog, he's hipster enough
 
@Flyk you should see the stuff behind the paywall
 
@AviD I shouldn't, I've only got a few threads left holding my sanity to the rest of my being
 
@Flyk @AviD does not have a blog. He has a Medium account.
 
1:17 PM
@TerryChia this joke is so hipster that it flew straight over my head
 
@TerryChia whats Medium?
is that like blogs for hipsters?
 
@AviD Rightttttttttttttttt
 
oh, it's twitter for hipsters
because twitter needed a clone
 
@Flyk Blog actually.
 
jrg
It's long-form Twitter for hipsters.
 
1:22 PM
well, that killed chat
important notice: talking about avid kills chat
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It's like Tumblr but for words?
 
@AviD i think so
 
Adi
Thanks, @Terry
That was amazing!
 
inb4 @AviD
 
jrg
@AviD But unsocial.
 
1:36 PM
@jrg what does that even mean??
 
@AviD the main feature on tumblr is the echo chamber. medium appears to just have commenting
 
jrg
There isn't a timeline or whatever like tumblr has.
 
@Ohnana I have no idea what any of those things are. I think I've been doing Internet wrong.
 
Internet does Internet wrong
 
@AviD so on tumblr you can "reblog" posts which means you basically repost them to your blog
you "follow" blogs, and see everything they reblog or post themselves
 
1:38 PM
@Ohnana I think Tumblr does internet wrong
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so there's this giant hivemind going on and you can create a little hugbox for yourself where everyone agrees with you
@AviD true statement
 
I am now bored, I am torn between playing games, messing around with sounds, or going shopping
 
Adi
@Flyk Shopping
 
but but but
then I have to choose shopping for what
 
jrg
shopping can be the more expensive and time consuming one.
 
1:45 PM
or which game to play
or what soudns to mess with
 
jrg
So when in doubt, do none of them. I take option 4, sleeping.
 
play games with loud sounds
sample sounds
make song
 
@jrg I sleep most of the time
 
then go shopping
 
I don't know, Steam is more dangerous to my income than general shopping
 
1:46 PM
lol
 
@Flyk true
 
jrg
<_< >_> Not sure why anyone would think that...
 
everytime I go on Steam I seem to spend €100 on games I'm never going to play
 
Steam sales especially
 
jrg
@JourneymanGeek steam sales always "But it''s like, 90% off......"
 
1:47 PM
"oh, so that came out..."
buys
 
@jrg: Precisely
 
A game on your wishlist is on sale!
dammit
 
Oh, least I can afford it now
 
and then season passes
what an exploit
 
jrg
A game you added months ago, because it was 2AM and the trailer actually scared you!
 
1:48 PM
making me willingly part with my money for content when I'll be bored of the game before the content ever comes out
I pre-ordered Borderlands 2 and the season pass
and still haven't even installed it yet
 
I remember back when I was making peanuts and I was like "I have a hundred quid, and I REALLY need to decide what I want to get"
 
there's an entire new borderlands game out already!
 
@Adi It works! Cheers! :)
 
@JourneymanGeek yes, I find as my income goes up, so does the amount of money I waste
 
I've got my eyes on themolassesflood.com
 
1:49 PM
my favorite steam games are free
I'm bad at video games
 
@Flyk: I want a new monitor. Its nearly a grand, and I'll likely need a video card upgrade to take full advantage of it ;p
 
Adi
@TerryChia Sweet! Tried in x_server?
 
is putting aside, 100-200 dollars a month for that at the moment
 
@Adi Yup! Segfaults.
Do you have the link to the public one?
 
Adi
@TerryChia Yup. Lemme find it
 
jrg
1:50 PM
"Why can't my personal account access our company dropbox anymore?"
 
@JourneymanGeek I have in this house, a total of 6 24" Dell IPS panels and a selection of other monitors that live in my spare room
but then, I needed stands
 
jrg
(Sigh. Hate monday helpdesk duty after we clean up security permissions)
 
the stands were the price of a fourth monitor
 
Luckily I rarely crave new games and old games are usually cheap.
 
and then I needed cables
so for a period I had a nice display setup but could only drive two of the panels
and then I needed a new graphics card to play games across all three
 
1:51 PM
@Flyk: I have a shitty asus that I bought primarily cause it was the cheapest monitor I could live with.
 
and then I needed a better desk
and then I look back on it all, and I'm like... I only actually needed one triple monitor setup
 
I could have managed with just a really big screen for gaming
 
I've got my eyes on a dell P2715Q
27 inches, 4K
 
@Adi Cheers!
 
1:52 PM
I'm not sold on 4k yet
 
single stream transport, will handle lower resolutions.
(so I can upgrade my video card in future, but still game at say, full HD)
 
playing games across three screens is a pretty epic experience, though
 
There are games with multi monitor support?
 
and these dell panels have nice and tiny bezels
@CodesInChaos no, the workaround is you enable your graphics card multi-monitor functionality and it turns it into a single display
 
1:54 PM
@JourneymanGeek bezel is huge
you could fit an entire other monitor in the bezel
there are plenty of games that support super wide screen made up of three screens, though
 
(my video card is a gforce 660, its basically the lowest end card that will do 4K)
 
jrg
@Flyk at old job, I worked from home, as well as from the office. was 50/50 split basically. 3 monitor rigs at both places (carried laptop around, and had a Raspberry Pi for the 3rd @ each place). Old job imploded, so I got to keep them. Now I have somewhere between 6 and 8 monitors.
 
Adi
What's with me and rep-training? security.stackexchange.com/questions/84377/…
I can't seem to be able to answer a question without rep-capping
So awful!
:D
 
jrg
@Adi it's ok. those answers are the ones that keep on giving.
 
1:56 PM
Monitors is the one thing I don't have enough of ;p
 
jrg
i'll hold off on voting until tomorrow. ;-)
 
@jrg: I was making ~300 dollars a month until jan
;p
 
@jrg I have separate machines for gaming/general use and music, both have a triple monitor setup
 
(and I paid for my own hardware)
 
@Adi boo fucking hoo :P
 
1:58 PM
Tho at the moment I have... a laptop, a "netbook" of a modern design, a NUC class machine with a small 10 inch 'bare' screen, and a desktop with a 20 inch 1600x900 screen.
 
jrg
@JourneymanGeek I paid for the home rig, took me almost a year to save for it. Losing my old job and keeping my work specific rig was kinda the suckiest awesome thing to have happen. :\
 
I know the feeling
My home rig took me about that long. Then I was too busy, so I could afford better components in some cases
My monitor is from when I dumpster dived a dell sans monitor and hdd, and bought both to get it running ;p
 
my spare room is a bit of graveyard for technology
if it weren't so much hassle to send you all my old monitors, @JourneymanGeek, I would
 
naw, its ok
I have actual money now ;p
 
I just give that stuff away at Christmas
 
2:00 PM
and I may go multiscreen, I donno
 
last year I gave away a PC, a TV, and two Wiis
 
I just like the idea of one, really nice, screen
 
@Flyk We need to be friends. :P
 
@JourneymanGeek multiple screens is the way forward
whether that's three identical panels
or one large panel with two other panels in portrait either side
 
@Flyk: I will probably use the asus as a secondary, and/or move it over to another system
 
2:01 PM
@TerryChia you would be until she finds out the costs of shipping stuff to Singapore :op
 
1 min ago, by Flyk
if it weren't so much hassle to send you all my old monitors, @JourneymanGeek, I would
aside from the probably incompatible power connectors
the revealing of my identity and the associated paper trail
 
You can probably just swap those
 
the boxing and sending of a pile of monitors
 
lol
@Flyk: If someone gives me free stuff, I'd respect their right to privacy ;p
 
2:03 PM
@Flyk just get @lighty over to do it
 
which definitely have my finger prints all over them
would need to clean them
and then box them
 
but its cool. I'll just save up and buy the stuff I want
 
maybe the next time I'm in singapore I could just bring a bunch with me in luggage
I wonder how they'd react to that
 
They'd probably try to charge you sales tax ;p
or just not bother.
(really, don't ;p)
 
like pow, I left you a present, go store friendly
 
2:07 PM
@Flyk Cool. I expect free tickets to your concert when you come.
 
(ps: there's copious amounts of weed inside them. Make sure you remove this before you turn them on)
 
Lol
 
@Flyk yeah weed smelling monitors on a plane from holland isn't likely to go down well with Singaporean customs
 
2:08 PM
On the bright side, since you're female, they won't cane you
 
@TerryChia i know man
 
not sure about hanging
 
i know ;-;
 
@TerryChia it's a page full of animated gifs that popped up a "sign up for our newsletter" the moment I got to the page, so I closed it
 
2:10 PM
@Flyk it was created by the us government
 
@RоryMcCune who said they smell, also, who said from holland, also, who said anything about customs?
@Ohnana some committee has gone "people on the internet like gifs, gif all the things"
 
@Flyk weed generally has a distinctive odour, schipol is a main hub airport for europe and most people entering singapore have to go through customs :)
 
@JourneymanGeek death penalty for drugs? maybe singapore needs some weed man
just get baked and forget about killing people
 
everybody needs more weed
 
2:11 PM
(Actually not sure if they hang you for that at all)
Not me
 
you know if they pumped marijuana through airconditioning units in waiting rooms, nobody would ever care about waiting
and busses
 
pls
 
svp
and planes
airports
shopping centers
in fact, in shopping centers, you'd also increase the sales of all of the food stores
so it's a strategic business decision
 
@Flyk hospitals would be torn -- more smoke-inhalation injuries, but also more people paying to be treated
 
"smoke inhalation injuries"
you could cool the smoke since it's being distributed by air conditioning
you only really get "injuries" from super hot smoke
 
2:14 PM
weed's LD50 is incredibly high, but it's still particulates + a lower oxygen intake
over time that shit is harmful
 
like, stuck in a room with no windows and your only exit is the house that is burning down around you
smoking weed is no more harmful than walking in most major cities
 
@Flyk but the concentration needed in the air to actually buzz people would be outrageous
 
@Ohnana yes but the long list of benefits would be completely worth it
instead of pepper spray and guns for police officers, blow marijuana smoke at them
highly concentrated
completely removes all resistance, anger, violence, etc
 
@Flyk and then you kill an asthmatic and become the center of massive media outrage
 
and the person being arrested giggles while you're cuffing them
 
jrg
2:17 PM
Biological weapons like that always have risks.
 
@Ohnana how is that different from "accidentally" shooting people?
or tazing people who didn't need tazing
or pepper spraying anybody, ever
 
@Flyk it isn't. but weed smoke isn't the best idea
 
or water cannons
it's the multi-purpose resolution for everything
compressed marijuana smoke
meeting resistance? Remove the resistance!
bad day? Remove the day!
idiots annoying you?
class full of children getting on your nerves?
waiting rooms?
 
hmm, pepper spray has never been listed as a primary cause of death
 
riots?
@Ohnana neither has ecstasy, but it's still the "most evil thing ever"
 
2:21 PM
@CodesInChaos I used to play the sgi flight sim back in the nineties. one ,onitor for your view out the front, and one each for other views. typically drove each one with a separate machine :-)
 
"this guy drank a litre of vodka and then dropped a pill, then jumped off a bridge"
"damn those pills"
"these people took pills and then didn't drink any water for 24 hours while dancing in a super hot club with very little ventilation, they died"
"damn those drugs"
or, as the case more often is
 
all pls, drugs are bad
 
replace "didn't drink any water" with "drowned themselves in alcohol" or "drowned themselves in water"
@Simon only those drugs your government has told you can take are acceptable, yeah?
painkillers, alcohol, nicotine, caffeine, etc?
my favorite one is adderall
 
@Flyk MDMA is an amphetamine and high usage has the same effects on your brain that you would if you took adderal without ADHD
 
Caffeine doesn't alter my state of mind, thoughts, feelings.
 
2:25 PM
which is basically amphetamines (speed)
@Simon erm
@Ohnana heh, we both did the same thing
 
@Simon 'course it does, everything you ingest does
 
Alcohol can be good for your health.
 
@Flyk with different points.
@Simon ahahahah
 
@RоryMcCune I'm going to leave you to school @Simon on this one
 
@RоryMcCune One time, I decided to jump off a bridge after eating an apple. Dem apples.
 
2:26 PM
@Ohnana you see, my love of amphetamines are because I have ADHD
 
@Simon @Ohnana indeed, like all drugs Alcohol can be good for you , can also be bad for you
 
@Simon I used to love jumping off bridges/cliffs
 
no, that's wrong
my love of amphetamines are because I like being messed up
 
@Flyk @RоryMcCune while you're at it, I have a couple of chairs that are pretty bad at math skills. Can you do something about that too?
 
the ADHD thing is a nice side effect
 
2:26 PM
@Simon one time I* decided not to jump off a bridge as I was on anti-depressants, swings/roundabouts
 
had to give it up for a while, but my kids are now at the age I was when I started doing it, so time to take it up again :-)
 
@Simon apples contain a variety of complex naturally occurring sugars
 
@RоryMcCune Well, that's a good thing, isn't it?
 
@Simon yeah indeed, so drugs can be good for you
 
sugar has an effect on your personality and has clearly defined psychological symptoms upon withdrawel
 
2:27 PM
can also be bad for you
 
which is the definition of a drug
 
@RоryMcCune good use of the star :-)
 
@Flyk Sex is a drug?
 
@RoryAlsop wouldn't want to have given the wrong impression there :)
 
@Simon it can be. sex is linked with a ton of neurotransmitters flooding your brain
 
2:28 PM
@Simon sex is not a substance you can consume
 
it's just an organic delivery method
 
@Ohnana mmm - endorphins :-)
 
@Ohnana There we go. @Flyk, did the government say that sex is fine?
@Flyk Bahaha, can you not? :D
 
@Simon sex with who tho
 
@Simon sex doesn't meet the definition of drug
> a medicine or other substance which has a physiological effect when ingested or otherwise introduced into the body.
 
2:30 PM
@Simon she's actually more correct than i am. you can shoehorn it in there with the addictive patterns but the definition she provided excludes it
 
woo, somebody said I was correct on the internet, I feel way happier about this than I should
 
I don't see how you can be mad at the government because they forbid drugs like Cocaine.
 
@Flyk so you're saying that validation from imaginary internet people is a drug
@Simon because it's illogical
 
wat
 
@Simon alcohol is a drug, cocaine is a drug, why is one legal and the other one illegal
 
2:32 PM
@RоryMcCune it's kind of in the best interest of the government that the citizens have their shit together
 
@Simon either people can make these decisions for themselves or they can't
either way the Gov's position is illogical
 
@RоryMcCune IIRC, things like Cocaine and Heroin create an instant addiction. Alcohol doesn't.
 
this makes me mad 'cause I'd like my governments to be logical
 
@RоryMcCune we tried banning alcohol but it was too ingrained in culture. the other drugs have not, so we can ban them easily. as weed becomes part of culture, it starts to be legalized
 
A physical addiction, not emotional.
AKA craving.
 
2:34 PM
@Simon so what, alcohol kills people, weed for example doesn't ... yet it's illegal and alcohol isn't
 
Hence why the Dutch legalized it.
 
@Ohnana smoking was ingrained into culture, is effectively getting banned anyway
@Simon don't think they have legalized
 
Obviously I wouldn't mind weed to be legal.
An highly addictive drug would cause more problems.
@RоryMcCune Weed? Yes.
 
tolerated perhaps, not prosecuted maybe, legal, no
@Simon what's highly addictive to one person is easily manageable to another
@Simon I know first hand that alcohol can be addictive and very dangerous
 
@Simon you know the reason that most drugs are banned is because somebody with no experience with the matter doesn't like the idea of people enjoying themselves?
not because of science
marijuana was banned in the US in the 1920s basically because the white people didn't like their slaves "escaping" from their servitude
that's the thick and thin of it
all these governments keep getting actual researchers to do studies on the effects of drugs, stating that they should be declassified because the effects don't match the hype
and then the governments ignore the scientific research and keep them banned anyway
I'm not saying that stuff like meth or krokodil shouldn't be banned, because they're properly messed up
 
2:44 PM
@Flyk 1920s? slaves? er, what?
the criminalization of weed in the us was part of the pure food and drug act.
 
just because it was already abolished doesn't mean slavery didn't continue in some form for many years
 
now I'm going to spend the rest of the day reading massive walls of text trying to find this thing I read
I wish I could bookmark individual pieces of text
 
@Flyk the only forms of chattel slavery in the us that came about after abolition was convict purchasing
 
but then, I probably wouldn't even if I could
 
2:49 PM
or evernote
 
@Flyk or OneNote
 
Here's an interesting article that is definitely close to what I'm after
 
@RоryMcCune When they actually sell it legally in coffeeshops, I think it's safe to say that it's legal.
 
not the one I'm actually after, though
 
But yes, you're right, it doesn't seem to be officially legal.
 
2:54 PM
@Flyk is this from a zine
 
"reefer madness, turns you into a rapist and a murderer!"
 
fess up
 
hmmm, I can see it
 
@RоryMcCune Physical addiction != emotional addiction.
 
@Simon sure and both can be bad
 
2:54 PM
God I love Cards Against Humanity.
 
@Simon what about physically and emotionally addicted?
 
fun fact: cocaine is a schedule 2 in the USA
 
@Simon en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_coffee_shop <-- except their suppliers can be prosecuted
 
@RоryMcCune Absolutely. Emotions differ from one human being to another. Anyone can develop an emotional addiction to anything. You're not gonna forbid apples because some weirdo is addicted to them.
 
it's used as a topical anaesthetic
 
2:57 PM
@DavidFreitag cards against IT is a good variant
 
However, a physical addiction will effect everyone.
 
@Simon but won't affect them to equal levels. As I said some people can easily manage what would really smeg up others
@Simon caffeine is physically addictive, going to ban that?
 
@RоryMcCune A minority.
 
I get a headache when I stop drinking it
 
@RoryAlsop I don't really get a chance to play it since you need 5+ players for maximum hilarity, and five years ago our group deteriorated to ~4 members ish.
 
2:58 PM
@RоryMcCune Coffee won't turn me into a junkie.
 
Last night we all had a meetup and stayed awake until 7am playing
 
@Ohnana fun-fact: trace amounts of coke all over your money
 
@Simon because the idea of a junkie does not include caffeine dependence
 
@DavidFreitag take it along to security conference after parties
 
@Simon can do
 
2:59 PM
people who drink upwards of 3 cups to feel normal aren't seen as addicted
 
@RoryAlsop Heh, I bet that's quite fun
 
they're just "overworked" or "tired"
 
@Simon as so if it's ok for you it should be legal
 
you can get the shakes from not having coffee after regularly drinking lots of coffee
 

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