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7:53 AM
Morning!
 
 
1 hour later…
8:59 AM
@M'vy Mornin'
 
9:29 AM
The early DMZ is up :)
 
\o/ and I'm sure @kalina will be about any moment :)
also I see an @ColinCassidy in the attendee bar
 
eheh
 
10:18 AM
ZZZzzz... <snork> wait, what?
 
10:44 AM
COFFEE OR OTHER BEVERAGE
 
DEATH TO SPIES!
ALL HAIL THE EXIT SIGN!
THE HORSE IS NEIGH!
 
kills everyone for security reasons
 
Makes sense.
 
Shuddup you ded
Oh crap
I'm hearing voices agian…
 
 
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12:33 PM
@DavidFreitag saints row the third
goofy hilarious story, plenty of shitkicking
 
@Ohnana: IMO the best of the SR games
 
@JourneymanGeek only one I've played
 
@Ohnana: SR4 was fun, but you're less action hero and more superhero
the last one was just strange
 
they made a fifth?
 
sr2 is a crashy piece of shit
SR1 is console only
Gat out of hell?
kinda standalone
 
12:36 PM
omg breaking johnny gat out of hell? sign my ass up
and it has kinsie too!!!
 
@Ohnana: If you liked SR4, you might like it.
I liked the gameplay
setting was a bit flat
 
idk if it's cheap i might wait for a sale
 
Oh, that certainly will happen
 
> After the space faring antics of Saints Row IV, many fans asked what we could do next… the answer? Shoot The Devil in the face.
 
what are you lot talking about :op
 
12:39 PM
i love this franchise
 
Saints row.
 
what's that then?
 
( I do vaguely know, it's a game isn't it)
 
vidya game
 
12:39 PM
Lets take a bad gang based clone of GTA
 
you can smash people with a purple dick and shoot kawaii octopi at them
 
then run out of fucks to give.
Then turn the awesome up to 11.
 
I was gonna say that The DMZ is super boring but now da bear joined so it's insanely boring.
 
@Ohnana: I used to play as a female boss with a french accent ;p
 
#shotsfired
#fearlesslyattackingdabear
 
12:40 PM
@Simon: you need to be slapped in the face with a purple dildo more
 
@JourneymanGeek THIS IS NOT A SEX CHAT, PLEASE RESUME YOUR MURDER TALKS.
 
@Simon you need to be killed with a dildo more?
i don't think you want that
 
Much better ohnuhnuh
 
Clearly. More embarassingly dildoey death.
anyway
its a load of fun
and the game dosen't take itself seriously
@Ohnana: the SR3 expansions were rad
Also that ending!
 
never got to the ending
 
12:42 PM
omg dat ending
 
With the looping "I need a hero!"
(not a spoiler)
 
omg spoiler
 
Oh oh
AND THAT SCENE
 
skydiving to kanye's power song was baaaaaller
 
12:44 PM
fucking pierce
 
nct
 
 
2 hours later…
2:25 PM
RAWR!
 
hi
 
@M'vy Hiya! Whats up
So quiet in here today. I have been here for almost 20 minutes without getting challenged by @Simon or @kalina
 
I'm fine. woking
I guess Kalina went for her "I'm out of here anyway" plan. As for Simon, he might be jetlagged by the DST thing maybe :)
 
DST is the worst.
 
@M'vy I think @Simon is jetlagged from his morning moose ride to the corner shop.
 
2:38 PM
@AviD Ooh look I woke up the tigger :)
 
@M'vy With the USA/Canada rules, we jump to non-DST on the first Sunday of November, i.e. one week later than Europeans.
 
@ThomasPornin really? Interesting.
 
DST for us isn't till this weekedn
Not sure if I should be excited fro more sleep or more video game time.
 
@ThomasPornin awwww are we gaining or losing an hour?
 
2:50 PM
You always gain an hour when going into winter
 
oh yay i can be colder for one more hour next sunday
 
or wait
what do you mean by gaining?
 
@M'vy USA rules changed in 2007 (based on a theory that pretends that the new rules will save some energy). Canada was not consulted, but still followed.
 
(actually you can sleep one more hour, but the clock will be late of 1h)
 
In March, the switch to DST occurs on the second Sunday of March, whether in Europe it is the last Sunday of March, i.e. 2 or 3 weeks later.
 
2:52 PM
(so you gain an hour of sleep, but lose an hour on the clock I guess?)
 
@Ohnana Hours don't appear or disappear depending on the whims of some politicians. What is changed is the definition of the legal time.
 
but i can sleep more
why are you making this philosophical
:P
 
Lol
 
:24948436 spell checker derped out on me
 
If you want to pretend that legal time is the "real" time, then the Sunday night will have one extra hour.
 
2:54 PM
hooray \o/
 
And you will give it back next March.
 
i'm going to go put on my typing gloves, it is too cold rn
 
Ye do not know what cold is.
 
well yeah I don't live in moose-arse canada
 
@Ohnana are they fingerless :P
 
2:59 PM
@JukEboX they are. tacticool
 
the moose are fingerless?
wouldn't that be toe-less?
 
@AviD no the gloves
 
@Ohnana no its becky
 
@Ohnana LOL do they work gooooood?
 
i'm missing something
 
3:09 PM
Hey all
 
@Ohnana no no, that's @Simon's line.
 
3:23 PM
0
Q: What is a sequential injection attack?

Colonel PanicFrom the Financial Times 26th October 2015 "TalkTalk faces mounting calls for compensation" Then, the hackers downloaded customer data using a “sequential injection”. Cyber security experts say this is a well-known technique that is relatively easy to prevent. What is a sequential injection...

That's kind of hilarious
 
There is Soooo much Derp going on in the UK press about the TalkTalk attack
including some from people who really should know better
 
Tell me about it
Oh, wait - no please don't - I'm getting knee jerk reactions from folks because of it
:-(
sigh
 
"why wasn't all the data encrypted" what the frack difference does it make, if it was SQLi (which it could well have been) that encryption would have done nothing!
@RoryAlsop ohh yeah "Could this happen to us, Do we encrypt all our data????"
that must be "fun" to deal with :(
 
especially after the other phone company's attack the other week
 
Quick sprinkle magic encryption dust over EVERYTHING!
 
3:26 PM
> I fear the Financial Times may be also vulnerable to 'cash poisoning' and buffet overflow' – Colonel Panic 29 mins ago
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@M'vy nice!
 
@RоryMcCune I have a theory about that.
 
it's one of the comments
 
I've been saying for a while how the only time I've really seen encryption (especially key management) done right - was Cryptowall.
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@AviD oh god it hurts because it's true
 
3:29 PM
Well, the painfully obvious reason for that is: the malware's business model depends on the encryption being done right. Not some nice to have, not some external regulation, not some theoretical "business requirement" - it is absolutely core to them even having a business.
until banks and other companies are in that position - there simply is not anywhere near reason enough to get it right.
 
that's true
 
even a fine for being not encrypted would be trivial compared to the loss of business.
 
unless it turns into a fire no one cares
 
it is not CORE COMPETENCY.
it is not the business model.
@Ohnana and even then - there is insurance, there is damages to pay... it is still not core.
thus encryption will NEVER be done right by banks. It is simply not their business.
Perhaps the only way banks can get encryption right - is if they hire the malware authors.
 
i mean it worked for the fbi
 
3:35 PM
@AviD Sounds like a headline worthy of a blog post somewhere.
 
@Iszi I was thinking that. But I dont have a blog, and I cant be bothered. So I threw it at you blokes.
Maybe I should expand on that for the sec.se blog sometime.
cue @Rory et al slapping me for the 2 year old blog post I've never finished...
I really should get on that...
I think I may have some "free" time next month. and I'll already be in the writing mood...
jeez dont know how many times I've said that before
 
@Iszi aka a "Simon-bot"?
 
@RоryMcCune pls all
;-)
 
@RоryMcCune I just found it funny that the guy was saying that bot would get old... as if the thing the bot would be replying to wasn't already.
 
3:41 PM
@Iszi I dont get it
 
@AviD Sigh. Somone came up with a list of "rekt" puns. Someone suggested creating a bot that spews that list whenever anyone says "rekt". Somone else responded that the bot's activity would "get old" quickly. Nevermind the fact that "rekt" itself "got old" a long time ago.
 
@Iszi ahhh see you're missing the original context there
 
oh dear @AviD you appear to have been "Tyrannosaurus #Rekt" by @Iszi there
 
it sounded like someone wanted a bot to reply "rekt" to every comment
@RоryMcCune ....
@RоryMcCune -.-
 
DINO REKT
 
3:45 PM
@AviD Nope. Original context was linked. You're the one missing it.
 
dont go sighing at me, this is your own fault for not including your context.
@Iszi I was missing it because you didnt include it.
your original message was not a reply, thus it was a standalone rektbot.
 
@AviD "Caught #rekt handed" there I feel
 
oh god does chat have a safeword?
3
i think i need one
 
dammit rororo
 
3:46 PM
@AviD Just 'cause SE chat doesn't allow you to upload an image into a reply. So I had to post the image, then edit in the reply code. So blame SEI.
 
there's hundreds of 'em
 
@Iszi 'course it does. you're just doing it wrong.
 
@AviD Ok, it doesn't like you uploading an image when you're replying to a post from the archive. Button was disabled for me.
 
wtf. If I have video files stored in google drive - is there no way to push that directly over to youtube?
gdrive already uses youtube player for preview.
 
@RоryMcCune Did they have #Rekt Wralph? I didn't notice.
 
3:48 PM
do I really need to download the files, just to re-upload them back to ---google-- youtube?
 
@Iszi yeah it was in there as "Rekt It Ralph"
 
@AviD slap
 
but I inb4'd you!
 
@AviD I assumed you were just showing me where to aim...
 
@RoryAlsop oh you
 
3:53 PM
@RoryAlsop TWSS?
 
yolo pls
 
@RoryAlsop #YOLO pls
 
rekt
 
#yolorektslpmvppdq
 
I can just imagine the younger participants of the room shuddering at our #Fogey'ish usage of youth language
 
3:55 PM
stabs skype repeatedly
 
d'yall ever think maybe we let #simon take over the room too much? at some point it's like we're reverring him, instead of mocking.
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@AviD concur
 
If you would, knave, evict thyself from my field of grass....
;p
 
everybody, can we all please just go back to solving my problems?
7 mins ago, by AviD
wtf. If I have video files stored in google drive - is there no way to push that directly over to youtube?
7 mins ago, by AviD
gdrive already uses youtube player for preview.
7 mins ago, by AviD
do I really need to download the files, just to re-upload them back to ---google-- youtube?
since you all must have accidentally missed my query, since noone has bothered answering.
 
@AviD Looks like you've found the solution, or at least a viable workaround. So, I think we're done here.
 
3:56 PM
it's been 7 minutes already, people!
@Iszi THAT IS NOT VIABLE
its like 15gb
 
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Q: How to upload/publish video from new Google Drive to YouTube

daniel.sedlacekI am struggling to find a way to upload/publish video from the new Google Drive to (Google's) YouTube. I am trying to avoid downloading the file to my local disk and uploading it again—it's already on Google's servers! There used to be a workaround where you send the video as an attachment to th...

google bitch
 
@AviD Awww, you can't handle something that big?
 
@Ohnana oh nice! tq lazyweb
@Iszi it would take, like, 4 or 5 minutes!
even more to upload.
 
@AviD So, in the time it took us to get around to answering you, you could have already had it downloaded and partially uploaded?
 
@Iszi which part of "lazyweb" did you not understand?
 
3:59 PM
@AviD Just making sure you understand.
 
THANK YOU, ALL YOU INTERNET PEASANTS.
 
@AviD if i could kick/mute mods, you'd currently be quieter than a group of harley davidson bikers asked to applaud a Justin Bieber concert
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lol
double lolworthy for the excellent metaphor.
is it a metaphor? or a simile?
 
metaphor I think...
 
LUnch time!
 
4:16 PM
Tea Time!
 
^ +1
 
Clobberin' time!
 
WWhat kind of tea?
 
@JukEboX ah, in the West of scotland, the evening meal is usually referred to as "tea"
without necessarily involving the drinking of any tea
 
@RоryMcCune sounds complicated? What are you having?
 
4:21 PM
@RоryMcCune sure, it could be whisky, gin, beer...
it is Scotland, after all
 
@JukEboX tonight, not sure actually, the missus is surprising me food-wise tonight
 
@Ohnana I have been there, in steam, with my mouse on the "checkout" button for that game, and every single time I can't justify spending $60 on a game
@RоryMcCune That's brilliant.
@RоryMcCune So just crumpets then?
 
4:42 PM
what ARE crumpets??
stupid english pastry.
 
A crumpet /ˈkrʌmpɨt/ is a griddle cake made from flour and yeast. == Etymology == Crumpets are an Anglo-Saxon invention. An early reference to them comes from English Bible translator John Wycliffe in 1382 when he mentions the "crompid cake". The early crumpets were hard pancakes cooked on a griddle, rather than the soft and spongy crumpets of the Victorian era, which were made with yeast. The crumpet-makers of the English Midlands and London developed the characteristic holes by adding extra baking powder to the yeast dough. The term itself may refer to a crumpled or curled-up cake, or have Celtic...
Looks rather a lot like what Americans call an English muffin.
 
@DavidFreitag ah then, now we know why
I do love a good toasted english muffin
 
@AviD Yup. I always thought crumpets were a sort of cookie
wikipedia to the rescue
 
@AviD LOL that is what I was thiknig
@DavidFreitag \o/
 
@JukEboX o/
 
4:56 PM
@AviD dude - always ask on Stack Exchange :-)
 
@RoryAlsop I did
 
@AviD nonono - the asky bit, not the chatty bit
 
there's a difference?
 
@RoryAlsop ahhh one of the classics
 
4:58 PM
@RoryAlsop Good version to come home to
 
@AviD and juice can be Irn Bru (usually) or indeed any fizzy drink (but not juice)
@AviD I know - didn't even realise I had it in the car, but it came on last night while eldest and I were out on a big Ingress op
 
@RoryAlsop which reminds me, I had a really nice distillers edition lagavulin over the weekend.
 
@AviD ooh - how different to a normal Lagavulin?
 
@RoryAlsop was just so much more so.
all the rough edges were polished off
 
good answer
 
5:00 PM
@AviD @DavidFreitag Looks like the only agreed-upon distinction between crumpets and English muffins is the fact that the former is only toasted on one side.
 
it did have a bit of thickness, for lack of a better way of explaining it
 
maybe a bit of nuttiness? but not exactly.
boy I suck at this.
 
@AviD Something you suck at, that's thick and nutty... hmmm...
 
lol
and smokey, dont forget
well, peatey.
 
5:02 PM
@AviD Yes, I'm sure you give it all sorts of pet names.
 
inb4 Petey was thick and nutty and being sucked at?
ooh missed.
 
@Iszi If you ask for the wrong one for high tea in England, you'll be tutted at, possibly with a raised eyebrow.
 
dammit. @RоryMcCune if you wouldnt be able to use Checkmarx, what would you use for tracing arbitrary data flows in code?
this would be so trivial if Cx could parse 4gl.
 
5:19 PM
@DavidFreitag Mike Myers, always +1
 
@Lighty Also, poo jokes always +1
 
Poopjokes +1 because the maturity level, is one
 
@Lighty s/one/OVERNINETHOUSAAAAAAAAND!!!!!11!1!!!eleven
 
toilet humour is not amusing.
 
The maturity level in this room is 9/11
 
5:21 PM
@Lighty That was terrible and you should feel terrible.
 
@DavidFreitag Force a joke, and it comes out bad, just like poop jokes I guess ;(
 
@AviD Oh 'cmon it's Mike Meyers.
 
nothing like a 2 hour long monday meeting....
 
@Ohnana It's pineapples.
 
 
5:31 PM
Ceumpets are mentioned in this video - definitely NSFW:
 
0
Q: Does IP Spoofing mean using a proxy?

HasanAs said in question, does ip spoofing mean that someone uses a proxy, thereby he/she appears as different ip in the internet world?

what do I even do when this poop passes my review window?!
I want a stinky brown poop flag for this kind of stuff
 
5:45 PM
@Iszi heh if it helps you feel any better I feel exactly the same today
 
@TildalWave Co-worker responded that he feels that way "any day ending in y" - and then I realized that's so true for me too.
 
I even had to pull out scrum notes and venn diagrams
basically I ended up explaining how solving a small problem by deferring it to a big one isn't exactly the best idea
@Iszi that can be solved by approaching days in smaller chunks ... morning, noon, afternoon, evening and night don't end with a "y" :P
 
6:12 PM
C# is really annoying sometimes.
Particularly when dealing with static classes and interfaces/inheritance.
 
@Iszi wat
 
6:44 PM
186
A: Make your language unusable

VɪʜᴀɴJavaScript Shell This will make the language completely unusable. clear(this); Isn't it nice how JavaScript has such a nice function to destroy itself? This is pretty simple, the clear function completely empty an object. this refers to the global object clearing out everything including ...

 
I'm fried. Am I missing something here:
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Q: Can I have CA with JSSE

elenaaMaybe the title isn't correct but what I am trying to understand is... I want to create a certificate for my CA which will be self-signed and then create certificates for my clients and my server. Is this possible with JSSE? I have found how to do that with OpenSSL only.

no! I just want to create a certificate for the CA that is self-signed. — elenaa 30 mins ago
 
so they want to sign their own cert
and i'm guessing they think CAs are big repositories
so they want to sign their own cert and have the browser accept it
 
they used "certificate-authority" as a tag, though
 
because i'm willing to bet they think the CAs serve the certs and have no concept of browser cert list
so it makes sense to tag it like that
 
I need a new wallet :[
 
6:59 PM
@DavidFreitag duct tape!
 
My current one is 5 years old
 
@DavidFreitag Is that a euphemism (cc @RоryMcCune - yeah, that does work :-)
 
@RoryAlsop Yeah a ham wallet huehuehue
 
@DavidFreitag hahahahaha - now you're just stating it plainly. No longer a euphemism
Mmmmm - ham. Might be time to make dinner
 
I had honey maple ham for lunch
 
7:00 PM
dammit - now I have ham envy
hamvy, if you will
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@Ohnana Your gif is broken
 
it's a fucking jpg
are you serious
 
#rekt
I was kinda hoping you wouldn't fix it.
Because now we all have to stare at that gif
 
oh shit i can't edit it again
 
7:08 PM
@Ohnana I can
:)
 
@schroeder oh gracias
 
@schroeder you tease.
 
I reverted
that gif was hard on the eyes
 
I bet there is some sort of JQuery plugin that allows for playing/pausing gifs
I also bet it would be easy to make a quick chrome extension to implement it
WOOOO I get SE swag
 
@DavidFreitag does it come with a wallet?
hm - I think I Was supposed to get swag for being a mod ....
 
7:16 PM
@schroeder Nope, stickers and a pair of blue SE-branded sharpies.
 
@DavidFreitag how?
 
I'll be looking for a nice wallet on Etsy
@Ohnana I got friends in places
 
@DavidFreitag doubt it
 
@schroeder Hey, even people at the bottom of the sea have internet friends.
Oh god someone just reignited a year old flame war
 
link me
 
7:18 PM
Batten down the hatches, it's gonna be bad
@Ohnana It's not public
 
where is it?
 
It's about hardware flow control and buffering.
One group of people with lack of imagination, and another group that really really wants a new set of features, but couldn't be bothered to implement them.
 
8:10 PM
As if the TalkTalk attack could get any more amusing, it turns out their "sophisticated and sustained" cyber-attack could be the work of a 15 year old kid...
 
i mean a c99 shell could be significant and sustained
 
@RоryMcCune Hey, if a 15 year old kid knew what he was doing props to him. I was still living in my own world at 15.
I love it when a short program runs and works perfectly on the first compile
With no intellisense or autocomplete of any kind
 
@schroeder yeah - especially important is the mod hat
 
@DavidFreitag oh indeed, although IMO in 2015, no single 15 year old should be able to waltz past the sec. of a large company and successfully exfiltrate that much data
 
@DavidFreitag how can you live without autocomplete and intellisense!?
 
8:23 PM
@RоryMcCune s/ single 15 year old/body
@SEJPM Magic
 
8:36 PM
oOh jeez what are you guys up to now?
 
@JukEboX Writing some automated calibration control software, you?
 
About to tear apart a security system :)
 
@JukEboX As a large orangutan with pubes for hair once said: "I'll get my hammer."
 
@DavidFreitag LOL
hands @DavidFreitag a banana
 
@JukEboX For scale?
 
8:49 PM
For your trouble
 
Awww yiss. OMNOMNOM
 
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