The DMZ

5:00 PM

@lynks Scout, I love running fast and jumping high.

@Simon I haven't actually tried the scout. I tend to go for the spy. I like disguising as a sniper and hanging around in enemy towers :P

Simon

@lynks I'd love to be a good spy but I'm the type of guy who loves to rush into the enemy base, hence why I like the scout.

Rory Alsop

Heavy here!

Or sometimes Medic

Ooh Steam summer sale is on

lynks

@RoryAlsop I have bankrupt myself on portal 2 stash and wall-maps. Don't you start.

Rory Alsop

That's what I just told badp in the Teachers Lounge :-)

Simon

5:09 PM

@RoryAlsop Do your kids think you're the coolest dad on earth?

@ton.yeung Yeah, sniper's cool too.

@ton.yeung Nah, I like it even more on smaller maps, more challenging.

AviD

@Adnan Im not here right now, but its "s". the ש can in fact be both, depending on punctuation (its really a different letter - or subletter? - one with a dot on its right corner, the other with a dot on its left corner).

Adnan

@AviD Ahaaaaa. Okay, got it. I didn't really notice that there's a small dot in the corner. Thanks.

AviD

right, because usually informal spelling drops all dots and punctuation.

not punctuation, I guess - letter-modifiers?

lynks

@AviD accents? glyphs? diacritics?

AviD

@lynks yeah, I guess....

I think its accents and diacritics. its like vowels, but on the letter itself?

Adnan

5:14 PM

@AviD Yeah yeah, I'm studying them as well (diacritics). They're a bit tricky.

AviD

hmm, I guess in this case its also glyphs.

Adnan

@AviD I'm not so sure of that. Wikipedia (and pretty much all the sources) call them diacritics

AviD

@Adnan ah yeah, I guess so - WP actually differentiates between the different types that I was talking about.

btw if you notice the 1st table does have 2 rows for ש - sin dot (left) and shin dot (right).

Simon

I think my favorite hobby if I'd live in Europe would be to learn 3782387432 languages.

Literally that number.

AviD

these (and a few other similar letter-pairs) are often treated as individual glyphs, but I guess formally it still fits under diacritics.

Adnan

5:18 PM

@AviD Ahh.. sneaky bastards those dots. They're so small.

AviD

@Simon cool, so you'd be able to drive for 4 days straight and still know most of the languages.

Thomas Pornin

@Simon Good luck with that. There are only about 6000 or 7000 known human languages throughout history.

Simon

@AviD Yeah, that's the crazy part.

Thomas Pornin

(1500 of which being encountered only in New Guinea)

Adnan

@Simon Actually, just learn Italian, Russian, Bulgarian, and Estonian.

That's all you need.

Simon

5:20 PM

@ThomasPornin Are you counting Elvish and all that? Also, who said I wouldn't teach myself new languages?

AviD

@Simon he said "human"

Simon

@Adnan It's not about what I need, it's about what I'd love to know.

@AviD Are you saying Elves are not humans?!? Well, you're right.

Adnan

@Simon I mean they're great starting points for their families

Thomas Pornin

@Simon The count does not include fictional languages, although there are not many of them which have been defined with enough precision to be worth the name "language".

lynks

@ThomasPornin frankly I think New Guinea are just trolling the anthropologists.

Thomas Pornin

5:21 PM

I.e. there's Quenya and Klingon, and that's about all. Making a new language from scratch is a lot of work.

Simon

@ThomasPornin Fictional? Breaking news, LotR really happened, OK?

AviD

@ThomasPornin does High Valyrian and Low Valyrian count as 2 seperate ones, or just one?

Thomas Pornin

@Simon I have seen the documentary but I think it is all fake propaganda from the NSA.

AviD

@ThomasPornin there are an handful in GoT alone...

Simon

@Adnan Italian looks very interesting so does Russian but I don't know about the other 2.

@ThomasPornin Haha

Adnan

5:24 PM

@Simon Oh I just added them because Bulgaria and Estonia have cheap prostitutes and alcohol.

Simon

@Adnan I think I'll pass, I get drunk very quickly and about the prostitutes, well, huh, meh.

Thomas Pornin

@Adnan You don't need to know Bulgarian to drink alcohol in Bulgary: the bottle does not talk back anyway.

lynks

@Simon well english will get you pretty far in France and Germany. Any further south and you really need Italian or Spanish, further east...German and Russian become necessary. If you're going north (Where @Adnan lives)...good luck, they speak an array of wacky tongues up there :P

Simon

@ThomasPornin It does depend how intoxicated you are though.

@lynks Yeah, I guess you have to be good at pointing stuff.

lynks

@ThomasPornin Bulgaria*

Lucas Kauffman

5:28 PM

evening gents

Adnan

@lynks "English will get you pretty far in France and Germany" BEST JOKE EVER!

Lucas Kauffman

@Scott

Simon

@LucasKauffman Sup, brah.

Lucas Kauffman

nm nm

Adnan

@ThomasPornin Have you been there?

Lucas Kauffman

5:28 PM

just finished work

lynks

@Adnan as long as they know you're not English :P

happy client

Lucky.

so I am happy

Good!

5:29 PM

wbu?

Thomas Pornin

@Adnan No -- been to Hungary, though, and that's much more "foreign" when it comes to languages (for a French, of course).

Lucas Kauffman

@Adnan LOL

Thomas Pornin

The one international language is Money. Show the dollars (or euros), and you will be immediately understood by everybody.

Adnan

@ThomasPornin Actually, Hungarian and Finnish and sort-of cousin languages

lynks

@ThomasPornin Mr Bean works too

Thomas Pornin

5:30 PM

@Adnan I know -- hence my "for a French" note.

Simon

@LucasKauffman Still at work but pretty tired because I stayed up late to help a m8 build his Hackintosh. Was pretty cool.

Lucas Kauffman

@ThomasPornin hohohoho

@Simon yea I built one once, took me 4 days to finish

deleted it afterwards because my wifi didn't work :(

Adnan

I wanna have a successful YouTube channel :(

Those people make a lot of money

like, A LOT of money

Lucas Kauffman

@Adnan not millions

not even FPSRussia

Adnan

@LucasKauffman Ray William Johnson has made at least 5 millions off of his channel

and I'm estimating on the far lower side

AJ Henderson

5:34 PM

@RoryAlsop thanks for chipping in on that lossless question. I really want to be able to vote it up, but can't when he's inventing his own use for terms that have established meaning

Adnan

You get $3300 for each 1M views

Simon

@LucasKauffman Yeah, it's a pain in the ass so far. We gave up for the night when we got a Kernel panic.

lynks

@Adnan what about Angry Birds? anyone in here could code that up in a weekend.

Adnan

@lynks True

AJ Henderson

@lynks or minecraft

though that's perhaps a little more complicated, though not much

Simon

5:37 PM

Well, it's the sandboxing part that would be the hardest I'd say.

lynks

@AJHenderson yeah. LWJGL is not super-duper easy. You still have to learn on-the-metal OpenGL.

TildalWave

@AJHenderson That's on AV I presume? Link please

lynks

but the simulation demonstrates some decent coding skills

kinda like dwarf fortress in that respect.

Adnan

But come on! There's this channel. One guy, one camera, and video recordings of him playing games. Only that.

He posts one video a day

lynks

@Adnan pewdiepie?

Adnan

5:37 PM

At least 3 million views

@lynks Exactly

$10000/day income

That's fucking good

Simon

These guys are often funnier than some comedians.

lynks

@Adnan I would tend to agree.

Adnan

@Simon Have you seen that guy's videos?

Rory McCune

@Adnan I must say I don't really get pewdiepie's success, RWJ and jennamarbles I watch in the top 10

Simon

@Adnan No but I know what type of video it is. I watch videos of people playing video games daily when I barely game myself.

Lucas Kauffman

5:39 PM

@Adnan he has?

Adnan

@LucasKauffman Yup, an average of $3300/1M views.

He has about 2B views

Scott Pack

@LucasKauffman Yes dear?

Adnan

The math says close to $7.5M

Lucas Kauffman

not bad

lynks

@RoryMcCune I did enjoy some of his (hundreds?) of "happy wheels" montages, I genuinely laughed hard.

Lucas Kauffman

5:40 PM

@ScottPack <3

Scott Pack

@RoryMcCune Some of us just want to watch the world burn.

Rory McCune

@lynks I've seen clips of those on the fine bros channel, they did look pretty funny..

Simon

I'm fairly sure that if I would stop being lazy, spend some money on a decent multimedia setup and would find an average concept, I could get a good channel on YT.

But I'm not sure if that's the kind of stuff I'd like to do.

Lucas Kauffman

I used to like epic mealtime but now it's just meeeh

lynks

@Simon I always thought 'hacking tutorials' would get a lot of skript kiddie views.

Rory McCune

5:41 PM

@ScottPack hey I'm not complaining, testing PHP apps is always fun, if only for the 90% chance of phpinfo()

Adnan

@LucasKauffman Once you collect enough subscribers with good quality

Lucas Kauffman

@lynks some of the hacking videos are quite retarded

lynks

@Simon because all the stuff on YT is like...lol look at me run metasploit. or just plain incorrect.

Adnan

you can post shit and you'll get enough income. That's way many channels stop caring after a while

Scott Pack

@RoryMcCune I maintain that phpMyAdmin is the best app ever. It's amazing how quickly I can churn through those investigations.

Simon

5:42 PM

@lynks I'd say that funny stuff are more successful though.

lynks

@Simon Yeah but I'm a devastatingly unfunny person.

Adnan

@Simon Actually, I've always thought the same. But in reality, I don't think it's that easy.

Lucas Kauffman

►

Simon

@lynks That doesn't sound funny at all.

@Adnan Well, like everything, if you're dedicated enough, you'll make it.

TildalWave

@AJHenderson nvm found it...

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AJ Henderson

5:44 PM

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Q: Is there a losslessly compressed audio file?

Every audio technician knows about MP3 and WAV, and the advantages and disadvantages of each. Namely: MP3 (most commonly MPEG III) disadvantage: lossy compression compression artifacts manifest subject to generation loss patent issues advantage: relatively small file size advan...

file-formats

TildalWave

LOL

AJ Henderson

oops, you found it the same time I did I guess

Scott Pack

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Q: Is there a losslessly compressed audio file?

Every audio technician knows about MP3 and WAV, and the advantages and disadvantages of each. Namely: MP3 (most commonly MPEG III) disadvantage: lossy compression compression artifacts manifest subject to generation loss patent issues advantage: relatively small file size advan...

file-formats

TildalWave

@AJHenderson hehe yup

Simon

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Q: Is there a losslessly compressed audio file?

Every audio technician knows about MP3 and WAV, and the advantages and disadvantages of each. Namely: MP3 (most commonly MPEG III) disadvantage: lossy compression compression artifacts manifest subject to generation loss patent issues advantage: relatively small file size advan...

file-formats

AJ Henderson

5:45 PM

hahaha

Adnan

@LucasKauffman I'm not exactly sure, but I think he's Syrian.

Lucas Kauffman

@Adnan He's a hacker!

AJ Henderson

since the question is lossless, I guess it takes up 4 times more space

TildalWave

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Simon

Comparison of audio formats

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Scott Pack

5:46 PM

Comparison of audio formats

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TildalWave

Data compression

In computer science and information theory, data compression, source coding, or bit-rate reduction involves encoding information using fewer bits than the original representation. Compression can be either lossy or lossless. Lossless compression reduces bits by identifying and eliminating statistical redundancy. No information is lost in lossless compression. Lossy compression reduces bits by identifying unnecessary information and removing it. The process of reducing the size of a data file is popularly referred to as data compression, although its formal name is source coding (coding d...

Scott Pack

@LucasKauffman Is he a hacker because he hacks or is he a hacker because he's Syrian?

Adnan

@LucasKauffman HOLY SHIT! According to him I'm being hacked by localhost:80

Scott Pack

Data compression

In computer science and information theory, data compression, source coding, or bit-rate reduction involves encoding information using fewer bits than the original representation. Compression can be either lossy or lossless. Lossless compression reduces bits by identifying and eliminating statistical redundancy. No information is lost in lossless compression. Lossy compression reduces bits by identifying unnecessary information and removing it. The process of reducing the size of a data file is popularly referred to as data compression, although its formal name is source coding (coding d...

Simon

OH MY GOD, I had to actually force my mouth to stay closed to not laugh.

I might have hurt myself a bit.

Adnan

5:46 PM

@ScottPack Could be Iraqi as well.

Lucas Kauffman

@ScottPack Because he's a hacker

Adnan

Or Lebanese.

Lucas Kauffman

@Adnan let's keep it to "somewhere in the middle east"

Scott Pack

So which is he? Syrian, Iraqi, Lebanese, or Guatemalan?

Adnan

I wonder how some people can identify the countries of origin based on hearing a person's accent.

Scott Pack

5:48 PM

Because sometimes it's obvious.

Lucas Kauffman

^ +1

TildalWave

> PHEW

lynks

@Adnan come to the UK, you can identify what town people are from by the way they talk.

Adnan

@ScottPack Well, he has a soft Levantine pronunciation. So I'd go with Lebanese

TildalWave

@lynks c'mon you're being overly polite here

Scott Pack

5:49 PM

In London you can identify what city block people are from.

AJ Henderson

who replaced @ScottPack with a linking bot

Lucas Kauffman

@Adnan You can clearly hear the difference between a texan and an australian

AJ Henderson

;)

Lucas Kauffman

and that's not just because they are talking about prawns on the barbie

Adnan

@LucasKauffman Oh that's not what I meant. I meant when they speak a non-native language.

Scott Pack

5:50 PM

@LucasKauffman Unless you're Mel Gibson. He can fool us all.

TildalWave

@Adnan you actually can, but you have to know a lot about their native language also... I can tell if someone is Russian, or Romanian, Italian,.... quite easily when they speak English

Adnan

@TildalWave I can tell if they're Finnish, Spanish, or French.

Anything else sounds too confusing to me to tell the exact origin.

AJ Henderson

@LucasKauffman you can understand the australian

the texan you can't understand even if you can hear the words coming out of their mouth

TildalWave

@Adnan hmmm I usually can't tell if they're from any imperialistic country because they have so many territories it might not be a French person if he/she sounds French at all

Adnan

@AJHenderson The one who doesn't have a gun is probably the Australian.

lynks

5:53 PM

@AJHenderson the australian isn't talking to you about obama trying to take their guns away?

Scott Pack

No, the Australian is much tougher.

AJ Henderson

@lynks either that or they are very confused

lynks

@AJHenderson unless, he actually did in some odd isolated incident.

Simon

I used to think that I would be a successful PHP programmer but now, everyone's telling me that it sucks. I hate all of you.

You're making me sad.

Scott Pack

No, I think PHP is fantastic. I just recently said that phpMyAdmin is my favoritest app evar.

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Simon

5:58 PM

How the hell do I know if you're being sarcastic?

The beginning of your sentence suggests that you are.

Rory McCune

@simon it's all a question of perspective, as a security tester I love PHP 'cause I always get findings when testing apps written in it :)

AJ Henderson

I love PHP, it's just limited in it's usefulness outside of it's target niche

lynks

PHP in a nutshell: "6" == " 6", "4.2" == "4.20", and "133" == "0133". But note that 133 != 0133, because 0133 is octal. But "0x10" == "16" and "1e3" == "1000". It’s also not transitive. "foo" == TRUE, and "foo" == 0… but, of course, TRUE != 0.

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AJ Henderson

and is kind of like the VBA of PHP

or maybe VB

it's possible to write good stuff in it, but most of the crap out there is also written in it

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