The DMZ

Polynomial

14:00

@RoryAlsop yeah, he's not far off your age. I always thought he was about 32.

AviD

1

Q: Expose web service in a secure manner

Requirement I have a web service I need to expose on the DMZ for external communication. The web service communicates directly with a critical database that sits on an internal net. Current solution This is currently solved by having a service exposed in the DMZ, the endpoint is secured using...

whoa, this guy wants to expose his service here??

Rory Alsop

the clothing and attitude helps

Scott Pack

That's hot.

Polynomial

@RoryAlsop indeed.

@AviD his comment about his DMZ being on the WAN makes me think he doesn't know what a DMZ is.

Rory Alsop

heh - services...exposed....wang.....

sorry - am on a long webinar....

Polynomial

14:01

wanginar.

Scott Pack

@RoryAlsop Giggity.

Simon

choo choo

Lucas Kauffman

@Polynomial DMZ means services facing an untrusted network no?

so if he's facing the wan it's not wrong :p

Polynomial

@LucasKauffman my understanding is that you would still want to limit your DMZ exposure as much as possible

AviD

@Polynomial as opposed to every ISP I've talked to, when discussing "DMZ" I assume it's "Filtered DMZ" or "Secure DMZ".

Lucas Kauffman

14:04

@Polynomial yes, but per definition the DMZ is already (partially) exposed to the WAN

preferably your administrative are not :p

Polynomial

it's specifically the way he phrased it

and I'm also confused as to why he has problems exposing a web service if he's already got the DMZ on the WAN

AviD

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Q: How much freedom should a programmer have in choosing a language and framework?

I started working at a company that is primarily a C# oriented. We have a few people who like Java and JRuby, but a majority of programmers here like C#. I was hired because I have a lot of experience building web applications and because I lean towards newer technologies like JRuby on Rails or n...

java c# web-development ruby-on-rails frameworks

I REEEHEEELY want to reply with "As long as he DOESN'T choose node.js".

Simon

wiener.js sounds way more awesome.

kalina

@Simon you sound like you like sausage

Simon

@kalina Is that a problem?

kalina

14:12

It might be

Simon

How so?

Rory Alsop

One of the options in the canteen today was the 'sausage counter' - 9 different kinds of sausage. Looked good until I saw the small print which said that a portion was 2 sausages. So I had a thai steak lunch instead:-)

kalina

@Simon depends on the kind of sausage... the sausage you eat or the sausage you suck

Rory McCune

@AviD yeah that would be a bit old school, surely he should be on akka

AviD

@RoryMcCune I.... dont want to know what that is, right?

Simon

14:15

@kalina What's wrong if you like both?

Rory McCune

@AviD come on they've got a .io domain name akka.io so you know it's got to be cool right

AviD

@Simon at the same time??

Simon

@AviD Yes!

AviD

@RoryMcCune okay, I DONT want to know what that is.

Rory Alsop

@Rory - isn't that a spell in the Harry Potter films

Simon

14:15

Alright, that'd be a bit weird.

kalina

@Simon nothing but if you chew a sausage that you're meant to suck, I hear that hurts. Also if you suck a sausage that you're meant to chew, that doesn't taste too good

Terry Chia

@RoryMcCune Does it use YAML?

Rory McCune

@RoryAlsop this would not surprise me.. the kids writing it are probably the right age!

@TerryChia dunno but it does use scala

AviD

@Simon where do you put the other one....?

Terry Chia

@RoryMcCune I'm sold!

Rory McCune

14:16

@TerryChia and it scales to 50/million messages a second on one machine!

so it's webscale

Rory Alsop

...buttscale...

Simon

@kalina Sounds like the first thing would definitely hurt.

kalina

I might test it, just to confirm... because, you know... science

AviD

@RoryMcCune does it use sharding?

It doesnt need to write the messages to disk.

@kalina I volunteer.

kalina

@AviD REALLY?

Rory McCune

14:23

@avid from the home page "Adaptive load balancing, routing, partitioning and configuration-driven remoting"

AviD

just be gentle.

Rory McCune

@avid "Asynchronous and Distributed by design. High-level abstractions like Actors, Futures and STM."

kalina

the objective is to CHEW

Rory McCune

all I've got to say is bingo

AviD

@kalina take out your false teeth.

kalina

14:24

I don't think there is any amount of gentle I can offer you

Rory McCune

(and I'm not referring to the other current thread of conversation!)

Simon

@kalina I'd volunteer too, people know how much I like pain here.

kalina

@AviD I... don't have false teeth

sets fire to @Simon

AviD

@RoryMcCune actually the other one sounds more pleasant.

kalina

enjoy your pain

Simon

14:24

@kalina Awwww yeah.

AviD

now if you'll excuse me, it's time to get my yoga on.

Lucas Kauffman

Simon

IN B4 NSFW

kalina

Simon

Alright, it's safe.

@LucasKauffman I'm into EDM big time now. I never thought this would happen.

kalina

14:26

Electronic Dance Music?

because, best music in the world, and all that

Simon

@kalina Of course.

kalina

any particular subgenre of dance music?

Simon

Well, I'm into Hardstyle mostly, which is way harder.

kalina

hardstyle isn't that hard

Simon

Especially Rawstyle.

Well, it's definitely harder than EDM.

kalina

14:27

melbourne shuffle that up a bit, NP

Simon

lulz

Lucas Kauffman

@kalina SPEEDCORE

kalina

SPEEDCORE ISN'T HARD

IT'S JUST FAST

Simon

Some Hardcore tracks are just sick though.

Like Evil Activities stuff usually rocks.

kalina

you like hardcore?

oh right, that's not hardcore

Simon

14:28

Some of it, yes.

kalina

that's gabba

Simon

Angerfist does it well too.

HUH, really?

kalina

hardcore is like hixxy, darren styles, breeze, etc

lalala unicorns and rainbows

Simon

Isn't that Happy Hardcore?

kalina

it hasn't been happy hardcore since the 90s

Simon

14:29

o

kalina

when they changed from breaks to 4/4

Lucas Kauffman

@kalina elstak is happy hardcore

Simon

QQ I WAS BORN IN THE WRONG COUNTRY

kalina

Hardcore is dead again anyway

they got too greedy and rinsed it until it died again

Simon

Anyway, Armin Van Buuren was in town on Saturday.

Was great stuff.

Lucas Kauffman

14:30

@kalina @Simon youtube.com/watch?v=tO1tm8OrKu4

kalina

mmmh

music below 160bpm sends me to sleep

Simon

@kalina Then EDM must send you to sleep.

Lucas Kauffman

TUUUUURBOOOO

Simon

(I consider EDM being House, Trance, etc.)

kalina

@Simon by definition, electronic dance music is dance music made with electronic instruments

which includes hardcore, gabba, etc

Simon

14:31

@LucasKauffman That's Happy Hardcore, right?

@kalina Yeah, my definition is weird.

kalina

what you consider it to be and what it actually is are two different things

also, you're wrong

and I'm right

and that's all that matters

Simon

It's ok, I lived 3.5 years with a woman who thought that way so I'm used to it.

kalina

If I have to listen to trance I'll just grab the latest International Departures or Trance Around The World

Lucas Kauffman

@Simon yea that's happy hardcore

Simon

@LucasKauffman Too happy for me :P

Lucas Kauffman

14:33

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this is very low BPM

kalina

Gabba is to Trance what Rammstein is to Bieber

Simon

@LucasKauffman It's not that bad though.

kalina

my phone is full of dubstep though

Simon

Ew.

kalina

don't eww at me

Simon

14:34

And you say that I'm wrong?

kalina

it's just slowed down drum and bass

get over it already

Simon

With some fucking weird breaks.

kalina

@Simon THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH BREAKS

Simon

DUBSTEP BREAKS MAKE IT WRONG

HARDSTYLE IS FULL OF BREAKS AND THEY'RE FUCKING AWESOME BECAUSE THEY LEAD TO THE CLIMAX OR ANTI CLIMAX

kalina

NOTHING ABOUT DUBSTEP COULD EVER BE WRONG

Simon

14:35

DUBSTEP LEADS TO JACK SHIT

Polynomial

@kalina I like that description.

Lucas Kauffman

Gabba actually comes from gabber which is the dutch word for people who look like this:

Simon

@LucasKauffman Douchebags?

Lucas Kauffman

they generally listen to hardcore music

kalina

yay drugs

always make you look bad in pictures

Lucas Kauffman

14:37

@Simon if you go to a hardstyle hardcore party in Belgium or Netherlands

you probably will see those guys

Simon

Dutch douchebags listen to HC? I'm moving to NL.

kalina

@Simon the dutch invented gabba

also, legal weed

Simon

@kalina The dutch invented everything.

kalina

because everybody should be high 24/7

Simon

Hell, the oil I put in my car is Dutch.

kalina

14:37

@Simon hardly, they didn't invent hills

Lucas Kauffman

Shell?

Simon

Gulf

Polynomial

@kalina But they did invent blue and yellow purple ones.

kalina

@Polynomial surely thats blue and yellow purple pills

Polynomial

exactly :P

To be fair, I do enjoy some dubstep.

Simon

14:38

@Polynomial QQ

Lucas Kauffman

btw a new pub opened close to me

they serve 2500 different beers

Terry Chia

Hmm, just got a downvote on my GPG/SSH question. Douche.

Lucas Kauffman

they're going for the world record for most different available beers

Simon

@LucasKauffman WESTERN EUROPE, I'M ON MY WAY.

@TerryChia I'm sorry.

kalina

@Simon you're not welcome

Lucas Kauffman

14:39

I went there yesterday, they already had 20 beers just on tap

kalina

@TerryChia sorry that was me

@LucasKauffman there*

Terry Chia

@Simon Spoken like a true Canadian.

Xander

@LucasKauffman Nice. I'm jealous.

Simon

@TerryChia There, I helped you out.

Lucas Kauffman

and they also have a small tapas bar

Simon

14:40

@kalina Oh c'mon, I'm definitely welcome.

Polynomial

@Simon No dissin'!

kalina

@Simon nope

this is a simon free zone

Simon

On November 23rd, I'm going to see Nervo.

Gonna be awesome too.

Polynomial

my music tastes are kinda weird actually

Simon

@kalina It's ok, I always wanted to change my name.

Polynomial

14:41

on one end it's stuff like As Blood Runs Black and Impending Doom, and on the other end it's Chase & Status, Dual Core, etc.

kalina

it doesn't matter what you change your name to

at least you're not @Adnan

Simon

@kalina Just chew it already, you'll be happier after.

Polynomial

bit of Noisia

@Simon twss

Simon

@kalina And he's already in Europe which means that I can move there.

Polynomial

... Twitter just recommended that I might be interested in following Jonathon Ross.

I am deeply offended.

then again, Facebook suggested Ke$ha as a page I might like. clearly their correlation algorithm sucks

Simon

14:43

@Polynomial Ouch.

Do you ever wake up in the morning feeling like P diddy though?

Polynomial

that was a terrible pun.

Simon

Facebook could have seen that.

Hahahaha

I'm proud of it.

Polynomial

"Wake up in the morning feelin' like P Diddy, but then turn off the radio because this song is shitty."

Simon

@kalina You suddenly stopped to type because you're rolling a fat one, right?

kalina

no I'm at work and I had to do something work related

Polynomial

14:50

@kalina are you a professional stoner?

kalina

no

Terry Chia

@Polynomial Is that a thing?

kalina

I wish it was

Polynomial

latest report title: "A discussion on the usage of Alabama Kush in 4-skinner spliffs, with a view to tripping balls."

@kalina you could take part in medical surveys related to weed usage, I guess...

or get testicular cancer using a microwave.

kalina

I would happily sign up to be a lab experiment for marijuana

Polynomial

14:52

and bounce around the street on your giant balls

Terry Chia

@Polynomial The tradeoffs doesn't seem worth it.

Polynomial

@TerryChia it's a South Park reference.

Terry Chia

@Polynomial Ah, never watched that show. ;)

kalina

also to be fair

unless you're already outside when you're consuming marijuana

suddenly deciding to go outside and do stuff isn't the sort of thing that actually happens in most cases

Polynomial

@kalina yeah, it makes most people really indecisive.

kalina

14:54

normally if the conversation even arises it gets as far as "yeah we should go somewhere..." "...where?" "where what?" "you said we should go somewhere" "nah, lets skin up another phat one"

Simon

I've had pot once and I was drunk, didn't feel jack shit.

kalina

@Simon couldn't have been very good

Polynomial

@Simon Most people don't feel anything their first go, either.

kalina

either that or it had no effect on you because you called it pot

Simon

Probably because I called it that way.

kalina

14:55

smoking ceramics isn't normally conducive to getting high

Polynomial

I don't enjoy weed.

Simon

Alcohol is good enough.

Polynomial

I get bored, then get annoyed that I'm ok with being bored, and I just end up frustrated.

kalina

Alcohol is the second worst thing in the world

Polynomial

plus whenever I've done it while drunk, I immediately barf

booze + weed != a fun time

kalina

14:56

@Polynomial awww, pulling a whitey, cute widdle baby

Simon

@Polynomial I felt like shit the next morning.

Polynomial

@kalina It's partly because it make me really light headed and dizzy, and I get horribly travel sick

kalina

@Polynomial white outs do that

Polynomial

so I'm unusually susceptible to vomit.

kalina

I need a replacement for silk road

the death of silk road was such a sad day

Polynomial

14:57

meh

I don't do any drugs

kalina

alcohol is a drug

Polynomial

well, any illegal drugs

Simon

@Polynomial Good save.

Polynomial

just booze for me.

Simon

Me too.

Polynomial

14:58

and prescription painkillers!

(notrly)

kalina

my least favourite kind of person

is the one that tries to belittle me for smoking weed, while consuming alcohol

when ultimately the only difference between "soft drugs" and nicotine/alcohol, is they found a way to tax the latter

Polynomial

meh, as far as I see it, whatever you wanna do is ok with me as long as you're not like blowing smoke into my face.

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