I know you all know that, but it was hard to resist... :)

@Amaterasu I guess that feeling has been replaced by a warm glow now? :)

@Davïd That is an epic classic. (And BTW, XKCD actually oneboxes here in chat if you just past the URL to the comic page)

@Caleb Ah, thanks Caleb. Still not sure how some of the chat room markup/down works. (In spite of having read the Help, I might add!)

@Davïd Ya it tends to be kind of black magic. Not all the markdown is the same as from the site, what oneboxes and what doesn't is just something you have to know, etc.

@Caleb I'll get there. And (fwiw) ... VIM!

;)

The advantage of oneboxing XKCD is that you get access to the alt text in chat.

@Davïd Thank you.

@Caleb That occurred to me as I pasted the PNG url. Glad to have it in all its glory.

@Caleb I started using Vi around ... 1990?

I'm a very basic user, but fairly comfortable.

I keep telling myself I'll learn it properly ... one of these days ...

@Davïd You beat me by a couple years.

@Caleb I expect you use professionally, though, yes?

@Davïd And for composing SE: appsweets.net/wasavi

@Caleb A new one for me!

@Davïd Yes.

I'm in gedit (or the like) often enough too - and use ReText for odd jobs as well.

so a casual, albeit long-time, vi user then

I don't think I've ever opened emacs though. So won't start now. :)

So. True.

@Caleb Lovely! Indeed.

When I'm on Windows (very seldom these days) it's Notepad++ ... or vim

(That is for anybody using wasavi for composing on SE sites, makes the textarea bigger by default, use as a sitestyle)

@Caleb (Ah - I wondered)

Do you do much/anything with TEX?

@Davïd Not when I can help it. I think that's about to change because I need to typeset a whole bunch of content for a project, but I've been resisting taking the plunge.

Once or twice I've teetered on the brink, but managed to fight it off.

I tried to check out bidi (for Hebrew) at one point, and it wasn't snapping into my brain fast enough, so I backed away from the edge

With graphite and LibreOffice, you can get pretty close to "typeset" - depends on the project of course

I expect you know that already. :)

well - back to work here - thanks for the natter!

@Davïd I'm not familiar with Graphite. I assume that is a reference to the SIL font rendering project?

@Caleb Yes - I use Linux Libertine Graphite a fair bit. I'm quite fond of it.

@Caleb There's a nice quick overview of features in this pdf

@Davïd I love LaTeX and XeTeX :)

@Davïd ^^^^ (sorry but wanted to black out my name ;) )

And I have come up with a class file I now use when translating as well, which I developed based on several I've found over at the TeX.SE site and some that users there have shared with me for typesetting Bible publications (I cannot share all of them unfortunately, as some were from a publisher under the condition I never make money with them, i.e. sell my publications)

@Davïd one of the users over at TeX.SE is typesetting a 15th century French Bible using LaTeX, trying to make it look like the original. It is amazing!

@Davïd I also do my syllabi and quizzes/exams all in LaTeX for the Greek class I'm teaching

@Davïd my general arena of academic publishing (technology/computer science) pretty much requires the use of LaTeX for publication

@Daи Hiya - can't stick around, but these LaTeX things look great! I might have looked at XeTeX (or LuaXeTeX?) - not sure now. ...

@Daи Also took some inspiration from this guy's site now offline

@Davïd yes those both support Unicode which is why I use them when writing Greek/Hebrew

@Daи What's your editing environment?

@Daи This was one of my early inspirations - but you saw in my notes to Caleb how far I got! :)

@Davïd standard editor

@Davïd TeXWorks or whatnot

@Davïd honestly, had I not been forced to learn it for school, I might not have gotten much further

@Dan, what do you think about new users being awarded points for filling out their profile and reading through the help pages. This would encourage them to be informed as to the unique aspects of the sites and they can be rewarded with access to the library right away?

@Sarah we actually already award users for that: they get badges for it:

hermeneutics.stackexchange.com/help/badges/9/autobiographer

hermeneutics.stackexchange.com/help/badges/85/informed

@Sarah but it doesn't award reputation. Again, you are free to petition for them to change how the site works on meta here and on meta.SO, but it is highly unlikely they will change how the site works. Many have come and gone before us and they've determined that the way the site currently works is best. The tools they've given us for handling sub-standard questions and answers are votes, flags, and the ability to edit.

@Daи Thanks.

@Daи Remember this?

@Daи I've been working on this.

@Davïd ooh <excitedly clasps his hands>

First pass with *אל־תירא type, gives me 40 "divine" instructions not to fear

@Daи Not too excited - it's slow! :)

I had a quick look at LO + YR', and there's more to sift through (as you realized)

@Davïd I know, but it beats my method (that I won't do) which involves programming and NLP/CL disambiguation :P

@Davïd yup, LOTS of work to do this right

@Davïd I'm not a fan of such types of questions tho

@Daи Indeed - it's more than just a tabulataion question of course

@Daи As posed, yes - there's a better question "inside", as it were

Pinging you an article by email just now....

@Davïd eagerly awaiting

@Daи Sent. :)

@Davïd Received. :)

@Daи Not very profound at one level, but is the work of a scholar's scholar who knew his texts

and germane, I think

@Davïd ooh very interesting, especially considering my anabaptist tendencies and continuous thinking in the vacious region between just war and pacifism :P

@Daи :) lots of interest there

@Daи speaking of which....

@Daи You might know this?

amazon.com/dp/0836112334

@Davïd first I've heard of it, now on my list to-read

1980 - not especially new, then, but ... how would an Anabaptist understand holy war?

@Daи It's one answer that question

@Davïd and an interesting perspective indeed

@Davïd you have a couple minutes to chat?

@Daи I think so - eyes snapping shut a bit, so shouldn't stay around too long ;)

meh get some sleep :P