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8:18 PM
@coding_corgi networking yep, AVR nope
 
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@ThePhoton how would he think that's ever going to be on topic here!?
 
user61389
Why was my comment that Signal Processing would like the question removed? @Kortuk?
 
8:39 PM
@CamilStaps When you make a program for a micro-controller that has networking abilities (because of networking hardware) can you like connect to servers and stuff?
 
user61389
@coding_corgi yes, if you implement it ;)
 
user61389
If you have a short question, please quick, otherwise: tomorrow ;)
 
@CamilStaps Mmm.. No I think that's it! Thanks!
 
user61389
@coding_corgi oh, I didn't think I said anything useful. You're welcome!
 
user61389
I'm leaving, later all!
 
8:44 PM
@coding_corgi You have a new friend, it looks like :)
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Q: Have I fried my Arduino UNO?

navnavSo I've recently been playing with my first Arduino, until it, for some weird reason, stopped working. What I did: I had it attached to a breadboard. When I say attached, I mean it was supplying power to the breadboard. I was messing around with a motor, which wasn't performing very well when ...

 
@angelatlarge Saw that question, I think that's what happened to my deceased AVRISP MKII...
I think I will be a little more over protective with my UNO
 
That was a "free beer question". In general, if the question is "have I fried...?" the answer is "yes, yes you have."
People don't ask questions like that unless it is no longer working.
 
@angelatlarge Ooh boy, 1.5 * 10 = 15V
Let me see what the maximum voltage for an ATmega328 - PU is...
I think I will search for the max voltage for the Uno...
12V is the max, he blew it!!!
@angelatlarge Ahh you beat me to it!!!
 
@coding_corgi This question doesn't have an answer yet:
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Q: Arduino Uno/Freeduino Serial Monitor reports that the connected WiFi Shield isn't present

user75736I have connected my Uno (freeduino USB 1.1) to a wifi shield but when I run a program for network scanning, the serial monitor prints: WiFi shield not present The code is here: http://arduino.cc/en/Tutorial/ScanNetworks Shield is properly connected, LED named L9 lits up on powering up the ...

 
@CamilStaps because leaving comments like that is how you cause crossposting.
@CamilStaps it was a terrible question, i dont want him double posting
 
8:56 PM
@angelatlarge Here add this part to your answer: the max voltage an Arduino Uno can withstand is 12V (found here: arduino.cc/en/Main/arduinoBoardUno). You had 10 AA batteries so that would be approx. 15V.
 
@coding_corgi I don't think that's relevant here. The max input voltage spec applies to the voltage supplied from Vin connector. The OP was using the Arduino to power the breadboard, meaning that most likely the 5V header pin was used. This means that +15V was applied to the internal +5 rail, not to the power connector which then goes to a Vregulator.
 
@angelatlarge Oh, ok, so your talking about the USB/DC barrel power input
 
@coding_corgi I think you were. I am not: I am assuming that the barrel input was either used to power the Arduino Uno (not the breadboard), or that it was unused and the Arduino was powered from the USB connector.
But the +12 spec does refer to the barrel connector, yes.
 
@angelatlarge So wait, he fried his mega328 by giving input to an output port?
@angelatlarge And more voltage than it could withstand?
SINCE the mega328 can only withstand 5.5 V?
 
@coding_corgi Almost. The OP was using the +5 header connector to power something, and then connected +15 to the same rail.
@coding_corgi Yes.
@coding_corgi Pedantic correction: ATmega328
 
9:03 PM
@angelatlarge Okay..
 
@coding_corgi It isn't just the ATmega: internally the entire Arduino Uno runs on 5V, so other chips expect +5 on Vcc pins, not +15.
@coding_corgi I worry tha the USB interface chip is also a gonner.
 
@angelatlarge True, thanks for making me realize that.
@angelatlarge Ok, the only thing he has to do is start scrapping! Though there is basically nothing but the DC barrel and the USB thingy...
Is anyone here good with datasheets?
@angelatlarge I think that many components are dead in his UNO, so I think he just needs to get a new one.
 
@coding_corgi Possibly. Well, the OP already go a new ATmega328, hopefully that will work.
 
@angelatlarge Are you good with datasheets?
 
@coding_corgi Depends.
@coding_corgi Sometimes OK, sometimes terrible.
@coding_corgi See this question and answer for the example of the latter:
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A: Higher current LED driver for persistence of vision display

angelatlargeIt appears that the reading of the datasheet whereby TLC5940 can sink only 120mA/chip is incorrect: Rather, it seems that the correct reading of the "\$I_O\$ Output Current (dc)" value on page 2 of the datasheet is as maximum current per channel, which is also the interpretation arrived at by ...

 
9:14 PM
@angelatlarge Ok, I can tell your already better than me
@angelatlarge Oh, yes, I remember that one...
 
@coding_corgi Painful memories...
 
Here take a look at this datasheet: sparkfun.com/datasheets/Sensors/Imaging/…
 
@coding_corgi OK, what's the question?
 
I can't get why there are extra metal pads on the bottom
 
@coding_corgi This picture?
 
9:16 PM
@angelatlarge Yup!
 
@coding_corgi So the datasheet is for the driver chip, but the picture is for the camera module which includes the driver chip
 
@angelatlarge ? I am confused. Could you please explain
 
@coding_corgi I think the datasheet is just for the driver ID. It looks like that picture on page 4.
(of the datasheet)
@coding_corgi The driver ID, for instance, doesn't include the camera, right?
 
@angelatlarge Ok so I would just solder something to the metal pads on the side
 
@coding_corgi Wait I am wrong, it does include the sensor, but no lens
 
9:22 PM
@angelatlarge Umm.. I bought the camera, and no driver thingy
So
 
@coding_corgi Sorry, I am being confusing.
@coding_corgi From the beginning:
 
@angelatlarge That's all right, but can the camera take a picture?
@angelatlarge Ok so I would just solder something to the metal pads on the side and nothing on the bottom?
 
@coding_corgi Hold on. we are getting there.
Sparkfun product is a module. It includes the TOSHIBA sensor chip, plus a few other things (like the lens, probably some passive components, etc.)
 
@angelatlarge Ja, ja...
 
@coding_corgi Although, now I am wondering if that's right... hold on...
 
9:25 PM
Ok...
 
@coding_corgi Yeah, that's incorrect. Looking at the product drawings on the last page of the datasheet, this toshiba product is complete, and that's what Sparkfun sells. Sorry.
 
@angelatlarge Ok so I would just solder something to the metal pads on the side and nothing on the bottom?
 
@coding_corgi Ok, so a bit of research is necessary. I now know the answer, but I want to show you how I got there...
 
0k...
 
Step 1: look at the comments on the product page
(I searched for "pads" nothing, but saw references to "forum")...
Step 2: Find forum link on the product page
Step 3: Second message in the forum:
 
9:29 PM
ok.. see that like first comment
 
I got a couple of these in, were confused at first by the pads on the bottom and the pads on the sides. But after looking at it under a microscope, I see the pads on the bottom are connected to the side pads.
Step 4: feel smug
 
Ok
Read the article so now I think I will solder a metal leg from an led or something to one of those pins, etc.
 
@coding_corgi Don't forget not to fry that thing with anything over 2.8V.
 
@angelatlarge Ahh! I gave it 3.3V!!
JK, JK, :) :)
I am going to search "fried"in EE search box
Check out the results: electronics.stackexchange.com/search?q=fried 7 pages worth!
 
9:50 PM
Exploding capacitors:
- from excess voltage!
 
10:11 PM
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Q: Voltage regulator too hot to touch

LloydI'm working on an RGB LED project. I'm using this as the power supply: https://www.sparkfun.com/products/114 It uses an LM317 which according to the data sheet can supply up to 1.5A. The LED's I'm using are these: http://www.adafruit.com/products/314 And the mains power supply I'm using is a 12v...

Spikee shamelessly paraphrased from my answer, yet he managed to get the wattage wrong.
He even copy-pasted my formatting.
 
@AnindoGhosh Funny!
@AnindoGhosh Wow, what a cheater!
@AnindoGhosh how 'bout some exploding capacitors to cheer you up?
 
@coding_corgi Yeah, and he's going around posting other rubbish answers as well. Fun!
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A: Are there "female" 2.54mm screw terminals?

SpikeeI haven't seen them and i'm pretty sure they do not exist. The smallest i could find were 3.5 mm and that does not fit your requirements. You need to buy a pcb adapter board or build / manufacture one yourself.

 
(The last on is the coolest)
 
"I haven't seen them so they don't exist"... really now!
 
@AnindoGhosh "I haven't seen them and i'm pretty sure they do not exist.", he thinks he is a know it all!
 
10:19 PM
@coding_corgi Oh, a half dozen downvotes on his answers would cheer me up plenty. I won't comment because clearly having posted the earlier answer, I represent a vested interest.
 
@AnindoGhosh Helped you out a little,
 
Thanks for the upvote :-)
 
@AnindoGhosh Anytime
 
@angelatlarge Do you see where another "You, sir, are a moron" comment is bubbling up today? Gosh, I wish I could be as much of a grump as the other chap.
 
@AnindoGhosh What PCB service do you use? Is it international? Or is it just for India?
@AnindoGhosh Check this out: electronics.stackexchange.com/search?q=fried
All the questions that have 'fried' in them!
 
10:22 PM
@coding_corgi Local, one in Mumbai and one in Gujarat, depending on volume and complexity. The Mumbai one is a new discovery, insanely low prices, but they're the ones that caused me to have to restructure two boards today, because of their limitations in manufacture.
 
@AnindoGhosh Oh, I watched a documentrary on Mumbai, there are lots of trains there right?
 
@AnindoGhosh No, I've been away from EE.
 
@coding_corgi Yes, I saw the link earlier when you posted. (I read everything on chat, every day, all day, even if I am too busy to actually chat) :-)
 
@AnindoGhosh Same! (since I like to sleep in)
 
@angelatlarge New chap called spikee. Beggin' for a spankin' with his plagarism and rubbish answers.
 
10:24 PM
@coding_corgi Seriously? After all that?You, sir, need to get into the habit of purchasing in threes.
 
@coding_corgi I don't get much chance to sleep, but then I don't need much sleep either.
 
@angelatlarge Did you read a little farther down? ;)
@angelatlarge mebe...
 
@AnindoGhosh The Vreg answer is OK. Did spikee steal yours?
 
@angelatlarge Take a look for yourself, he deserves a downvote!
 
@coding_corgi I did take a look. That's why I said "The Vreg answer is OK."
 
10:27 PM
@angelatlarge Oh
 
@angelatlarge Yup, including even the text and formatting of "Recommendations". He did calculate afresh, though, and got it wrong as well :-D
 
@coding_corgi It doesn't look obviously plagiarized to me, so I was asking @AnindoGhosh
 
@angelatlarge You didn't look at the timestamps?
@angelatlarge Paraphrased. "Research, not plagiarism" if you will.
 
@AnindoGhosh I did, but that doesn't need to mean much. Sometimes I answer a question, post it, and then notice that it is similar to someone elses. I think that happens here a lot.
 
@AnindoGhosh He just gained like +10 rep when we were talking!
 
10:30 PM
@AnindoGhosh It is hard to tell here because the basic idea here is clear: the Vreg needs to dissipate extra voltage as heat. So I would think that many people can come up with that. But they might have different math skills nonetheless.
 
@angelatlarge I would have assumed so had it not been for the "Recommendations:" text - that's rare enough that it appearing 5 minutes after mine told the story.
 
@AnindoGhosh Yeah, I think you might be right. Still it is probably best to assume weird coincidence until we have more evidence (meaning spikee steals an answer from me and I get hopping mad) :)
 
@angelatlarge Good idea, just have his profile open and watch him then...
 
@AnindoGhosh With respect to the other answer:
This site encourages definitive answers, and "I couldn't find one so they don't exist" doesn't qualify. This answer doesn't really add any value. — Anindo Ghosh 7 mins ago
 
@angelatlarge Hehe. No, what nailed his coffin for me was his subsequent answer, which basically says "I've never seen X, so it doesn't exist". As a comment, that'd be fine. As an answer, it's just a shoddy rep-hunting attempt.
 
10:34 PM
I agree that it doesn't add much value. On the other hand, if it is true, then proving a negative is difficult.
@AnindoGhosh Yes. True.
 
@angelatlarge Yeah, I agree that should be a comment not an answer
 
@angelatlarge Yup, that one.
 
@AnindoGhosh I CAN HAZ SERACH
 
@AnindoGhosh Try to make an answer for that one. Show him who's (virtual) boss
:)
 
@angelatlarge Proving a negative is irrelevant: It's not a definitive answer, but a speculation. Simple.
 
10:35 PM
@coding_corgi I try to avoid giving answers on things I know little to nothing about :)
 
@angelatlarge GOOGLE IS TEH ANZER!
 
@AnindoGhosh You think? Say I asked: Is there a PWM LED driver that can control 30 LEDs without multi/charliplexing, and sink 150mA from each. Is there no way to "answer" that question?
 
@coding_corgi The problem with that is, I know exactly where there's a shop which sells 2.54 mm pluggable screw-LESS terminals, but no datasheet or online link to back up an answer. I don't write answers without being able to back them up, and a video clip of the store, taken on Monday morning, won't count :-)
 
@angelatlarge There's definitely a way to answer that question: Either "Here, this one", or "here, this is why the laws of physics prevent such a product being made"
 
10:39 PM
@AnindoGhosh Ok, what about something like 4.8 Ohm resistor?
 
@angelatlarge "Here are the E12, E24, ... standard resistor values. Of course, 1% and 0.5% resistors are also sold for practically any value you can think of, here's a link for a $7 resistor at Digikey" :-)
 
So he's just asking for a 2.54mm screw terminal
right?
 
@coding_corgi No, what the OP is looking for is pluggable terminal block strips.
pluggable being key.
 
Ok..
 
@AnindoGhosh Let's step back a bit. Here's my overall point: Spikees answer is mostly useless, but not entirely. I can imagine a decent answer that says: "Thing X is at least very uncommon, and may not exist at all. Reasons: a) I've been around longer than Tony and never seen one b) Thing Y exists and is close to thing X, so close, in fact, that it can function almost the same way, and it is expensive/inefficient to make both thing X and thing Y." I would consider that a useful answer.
 
10:42 PM
Isn't that question a bit "doesn't apply to anyone but me" sort of question?
 
@coding_corgi Can't tell what you are responding to.
 
@angelatlarge off the top of your head what are the reasons to close an answer?
"Questions that are extremely off topic"...
 
@coding_corgi Ah, you are responding to me. Hmm... yes and no. I can imagine a question where the OP is confused, and the answer point out that thing Y is good enough. Not off-topic then. But otherwise, you have a point. But every "where to get X" question can be treated as "Why doesn't X exist" question because the OP presumes that X exists.
 
Ok... I need an FYI, what in the world is OP?!
 
@coding_corgi "Original poster"
@coding_corgi Also, in this case, a gender-neutral pronoun :)
 
10:48 PM
@angelatlarge Here we go again... ***HAND FACE***
 
@coding_corgi Facepalm, it's called usually, I believe. Maybe you need to come up with an emoticon for that?
Like P7 or P3?
 
@angelatlarge Hmmm... O\- ?
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O = head, \- = hand?
 
@coding_corgi +1 I like
 
@angelatlarge Thanks!
 
O\-!
Nice
 
10:51 PM
Maybe an overkill, but I think i will look better in bold...
Nope...
OVERKILL
 
@angelatlarge See my answer. I'd rather post fact than BS. My sympathy for spikee evidently differs from yours.
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A: Are there "female" 2.54mm screw terminals?

Anindo GhoshPluggable 2.54 mm screw terminals with female spring-clamps. Here is one example: The datasheet is essentially one page: The source of the above is here, but other sources show up in a web search.

 
good morning
 
@AnindoGhosh There you go!
@jippie Good morning. Welcome back to your Sisyphean adventure! Your guide for today, as always, will be @coding_corgi.
 
@angelatlarge Now, just go ahead and upvote me like mad, I did scrape the info up because of your remarks - instead of going to sleep, it being nearly 4:30 am and me having to travel to Delhi in the morning. grump
 
@AnindoGhosh I did UV you, mr. Grump. It is time for your beautynap methinks :)
 
10:57 PM
@angelatlarge oh I bet you solved the issue while I was away.
 
@jippie The fact that it happened while you were dreaming is probably not a good sign.
@jippie It was a nice dream, wasn't it?
@jippie No, all I did is upvote you, and clean up on some easy Arweeno rep.
 
I was away, wasn't dreaming (about electronics anyway)
 
@jippie Must have been a daydream then.
 
@angelatlarge yes. big dilemma atm
time for bed
/me is out
 
I'll be back in a bit. Need to finish off my PCB layout.
Sleep well, @jippie
 
11:24 PM
Yo yo yo!
I just watched a tutorial on youtube where this guy converted an AC current to a DC current with diodes, could I do DC to AC and back with diodes?
 
11:37 PM
@jippie AKA aRDUINOvr genius, you still here?
 
@coding_corgi No.
@coding_corgi Diodes are devices that pass current only one way. That's why they are good at rectifying: passing only one part of the AC signal.
 
@angelatlarge Wait, what? Explain this to a two year old please
 
@coding_corgi Sure. Do you know what AC is?
 
@angelatlarge Alternating Current - by Nicoli Telsla
 
@coding_corgi Yes, but do you know how it differs from DC?
 
11:50 PM
@angelatlarge Sort've, maybe like that DC is stable and AC is not?
 
@coding_corgi That's a start. Here's an image:
 
@angelatlarge Ok, so it is always changing and DC is always the same?
 
Whereas at any point in time if you sample DC is will be its declared voltage, say 15V if you want to fry your Arduino...
 
@angelatlarge It doesn't change! So you you slowly simmer your Arduino at 15V!
 
AC on the other hand, the instantanous voltage is not the same, but varies. In fact, it oscilates between +X (positive) and -X (negative) voltage, right?
@coding_corgi These oscilations have a frequency, which doesn't concern us here, but for line voltage it is 60hz in the US.
 
11:52 PM
@angelatlarge I don't know I am basically retarted at electrical enginneering
Now programming is a different story...
 
That graphic I pasted, how many cycles does it have?
(we need some terminology to make our life simpler)
 
dos?
 
Yes, almost two. Very good.
Ok, so to make that AC signal into DC, we need to a) keep the first and third half cycles b) flip the second and third half cycles and then c) smooth out the humps and the troths so it is one continuous line. Does that make sense?
 
So basically the diodes are taking a chunk of the (let's say alternating between 5 and 15) AC and says, this current that I give out will be a stable 10V DC?
 
@coding_corgi No.
@coding_corgi What the diodes do, is they pass only the positive or the negative part of the input signal, depending on the way they are oriented.
 
11:55 PM
@angelatlarge Ok, so AC is a bumpy road, and DC is a smooth one, so to make a bumpy to smooth you:
@angelatlarge So we need a capacitor to be a little more stable?
 
@coding_corgi So they can remove either the positive or the negative component of the AC signal. And if you have four diodes arranged in a clever way they can give the AC signal with the negative side flipped as positive.
@coding_corgi yes, to smooth out you need caps and resistors and/or inductors.
 
@angelatlarge Yeah, I saw that, but I forget everyting
@angelatlarge What do inductors do?
 
@coding_corgi Inductors oppose any change in current. They are kind of a dual of a capacitor.
 
@angelatlarge Oh, ok
So say I make an articifial AC with my arduino by doing analogWrite(pin, 100); delay(1); analogWrite(pin, 200); I could make that a steady 150?
 

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