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Duga
Duga
00:01
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[Hosch250/Rubberduck] 4 commits. 2794 additions. 1164 deletions.
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Hosch250
Hosch250
I win.
Of course, all I did was pull.
 
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Duga
Duga
02:39
[ckuhn203/VBEX] ptwales pushed 22 commits to master (only showing some of them below)
[ckuhn203/VBEX] ptwales pushed commit 150d2bb2 to master: Compilable now
[ckuhn203/VBEX] ptwales pushed commit e5a52733 to master: Fixed HashSet/SortedSet interop
[ckuhn203/VBEX] ptwales pushed commit 40fe2d74 to master: Created hashset test file.
[ckuhn203/VBEX] ptwales pushed commit 4c5c2836 to master: Merge branch 'hashset' of github.com/ptwales/VBEX
[ckuhn203/VBEX] ptwales pushed commit c72f4682 to master: Attempting to add Access build supoort
[ckuhn203/VBEX] ptwales pushed commit f311a50a to master: Cannot for each over str
[ckuhn203/VBEX] ptwales pushed commit 816bbd4e to master: Updated Dict.Create is param
[ckuhn203/VBEX] ptwales pushed commit 76d19f0b to master: Maybe has default value
[ckuhn203/VBEX] ptwales pushed commit 60b068bf to master: Default member must be property for application.run
[ckuhn203/VBEX] ptwales pushed commit a5a2bf8f to master: Merge branch 'master' of github.com/ckuhn203/VBEX
 
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Hosch250
Hosch250
04:42
What's next for RD?
Stack Exchange
Stack Exchange
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Q: Build me a mock IDE

Mat's MugThe opening sentence of an answer I received in my previous post snowballed, and led to completely ditching the previous approach. Mocking my IDE with a MockFactory worked ok, ...for some values of "ok" - the more components needed to be involved, the messier the setup code was getting. So inste...

c# design-patterns rubberduck mocks
Duga
Duga
05:07
[rubberduck-vba/Rubberduck] retailcoder pushed commit 07092b71 to next: added fluent transitions between builders
[rubberduck-vba/Rubberduck] build for commit 07092b71 on next: AppVeyor build succeeded
[Hosch250/Rubberduck] Hosch250 pushed commit 8701aeea to next: Clean refactoring tests up just a bit.
[Hosch250/Rubberduck] retailcoder pushed commit 07092b71 to next: added fluent transitions between builders
[Hosch250/Rubberduck] Hosch250 pushed commit 85a3dd9b to next: Merge branch 'next' of github.com/rubberduck-vba/Rubberduck into next
Mat's Mug
Mat's Mug
@Hosch250 moar tests :)
Duga
Duga
06:11
[rubberduck-vba/Rubberduck] retailcoder pushed commit 9bf01f24 to next: added de-DE in language dropdown
[rubberduck-vba/Rubberduck] build for commit 9bf01f24 on next: AppVeyor build succeeded
[rubberduck-vba/Rubberduck] build for commit 9bf01f24 on next: AppVeyor build succeeded
Rossco
Rossco
06:29
And, I got my project building on AppVeyor!
Only have to figure out why 78 tests are failing on my machine and only 55 are failing on the build server...
 
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RubberDuck
RubberDuck
10:34
Well... That's odd @Rossco. Lol
Is the build order set up so that everything builds?
@Mat'sMug that looks awesome, but why isn't there a Component builder that ProjectBuilder delegates to?
It could encourage us to pass project collections where all we really need is a component, no?
 
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Mat's Mug
Mat's Mug
11:48
@RubberDuck because a component doesn't need a builder. Except user forms.
If you know what code you want and what type of component, you got everything you need already to mock any non-userform component
RubberDuck
RubberDuck
12:04
@Mat'sMug true enough I suppose.
I was just curious about it.
Mat's Mug
Mat's Mug
12:35
@RubberDuck it could have delegated to some ComponentFactory, but I thought it'd be overkill ;-)
RubberDuck
RubberDuck
12:54
I was just thinking of cases where we might only need a component, but you're right I think.
Mat's Mug
Mat's Mug
13:23
@RubberDuck that's covered with the BuildFromSingleModule method, which gives you a VBE and a VBComponent ready to use and all wired-up
 
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Duga
Duga
14:30
[rubberduck-vba/Rubberduck] NeilBryant forked us into NeilBryant/Rubberduck
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FreeMan
FreeMan
14:59
monking all!
Quick question: I've written Private Sub CheckDirExists(ByVal FullPath As String) that will recursively call itself with shorter path names until it finds something that exists, then build the path from there. Is CheckDirExists a good name?
Naming things is hard
cheezsteak
cheezsteak
15:40
@FreeMan Not really. I would expectCheckDirExists to return false if the original path I sent it is not a folder.
Maybe FindExistingParent ?
Also this might be relevant github.com/ckuhn203/VBEX/blob/master/src/fsview.bas#L48
FreeMan
FreeMan
@cheezsteak Seems like a reasonable answer. What would be a good name for "Send me a path (with or without a filename at the end) and I'll create whatever parts of the path that are necessary", yet still remains within the 127 character Sub name limit?
cheezsteak
cheezsteak
@FreeMan To be used with some shell operation like $ mv -p src dest? Basically I have a filepath that I want to move a file to but I don't know how many folder I need to create first?
Actually thats $ mkdir -p stackoverflow.com/questions/547719/…
Phrancis
Phrancis
16:07
Quack
FreeMan
FreeMan
@cheezsteak useful, but you missed the invisible vba tag... ;)
@Phrancis Qvack yourself!
cheezsteak
cheezsteak
@FreeMan I was correcting the mv -p. --parents is not an option of mv it's an option of mkdir.
@FreeMan MakeParents or CreateRootPath github.com/ckuhn203/VBEX/blob/master/src/shutilE.bas#L150
FreeMan
FreeMan
I think we're talking different things, @cheezsteak. I can find no references to any parameters beyond path for the mkdir function available to VBA programs running under Windows.
As usual, things are simpler in Linux
cheezsteak
cheezsteak
I am just thinking about your desires in VBA in terms of what is available in Linux
FreeMan
FreeMan
16:23
Also, I'm not looking to write (or borrow) the function, as I've already done that, just looking at naming it
cheezsteak
cheezsteak
MakeParents seems good to me then.
Hosch250
Hosch250
@Mat'sMug I've been looking at RenameUsages planning to fix the events bug, and I don't even get what that second section is doing.
RubberDuck
RubberDuck
@FreeMan why not just BuildDir?
You could always just document that it doesn't do anything if the directory already exists.
FreeMan
FreeMan
BuildDir and MakeParentDir seem like reasonable options. Why not use it? Because I didn't think of it, @RubberDuck!
@RubberDuck What is this... document ... of which you speak?
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Mat's Mug
Mat's Mug
16:41
@Hosch250 link?
RubberDuck
RubberDuck
@FreeMan mythical beast. Related: unicorns
FreeMan
FreeMan
Ahhh... that makes sense
Hosch250
Hosch250
17:22
github.com/rubberduck-vba/Rubberduck/blob/next/RetailCoder.VBE/…
Sorry, @Mat'sMug, was reading.
Phrancis
Phrancis
17:59
@RubberDuck Got good news! Will let you know more when I'm out of here
RubberDuck
RubberDuck
@Phrancis excited to hear it!
FreeMan
FreeMan
18:38
Good News is Good!
Duga
Duga
18:49
[Hosch250/Rubberduck] Hosch250 pushed commit f4ac3ad6 to next: More rename tests
 
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FreeMan
FreeMan
20:10
Congrats to @Mat'sMug & @SimonAndréForsberg, new CR moderators!
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Rossco
Rossco
21:08
@FreeMan I'd better watch my P's and Q's then...
cheezsteak
cheezsteak
@RubberDuck You are finally getting that review for codereview.stackexchange.com/questions/84575/…
@Mat'sMug @RubberDuck I made this for you guys. github.com/ptwales/Rubberduck-Choco Idk if you care but if you don't mind I would like to push it to Chocolatey. Then I can more easily install rubberduck at work.
Mat's Mug
Mat's Mug
@cheezsteak cool! what is it?
cheezsteak
cheezsteak
Chocolatey is a opensource package manger for windows. It uses nuget to install packages other than just VS stuff
chocolatey.org
Basically you can choco install python GoogleChrome jdk8 etc
I want to be able to just choco install rubberduck so I built a package for <strike>you</strike> me!
Mat's Mug
Mat's Mug
21:23
nice
Duga
Duga
[rubberduck-vba/Rubberduck] stessler starred us
Mat's Mug
Mat's Mug
@Duga #67!
Hosch250
Hosch250
@cheezsteak Use ---text---, like this: text
cheezsteak
cheezsteak
@Hosch250 I thought we could use HTML and markdown?
or was that only in posts
Hosch250
Hosch250
Not in chat.
Markdown works, but not HTML.
Rossco
Rossco
21:37
Guys, how would you assess VBA code which doesn't specify types in method signatures or variable declarations?
cheezsteak
cheezsteak
@Rossco Like everything is a variant or implicitly a variant?
Rossco
Rossco
I guess that's the case (unless they are using DefXXX, which is worse).
I have a job interview in a couple and I was just reviewing some of their code.
And that was one thing which stood out to me.
cheezsteak
cheezsteak
They should have a reason for it to be variant.
Rossco
Rossco
Yeah and declare it explicitly?
As in 'this is a variant because I need a variant'?
RubberDuck
RubberDuck
Oh hey! Wow! Thanks @cheezsteak!
cheezsteak
cheezsteak
21:42
This is a variant because it could be an Array or a collection.
@RubberDuck Which the reveiw or the chocolatey package?
Rossco
Rossco
I'm talking about entire modules where every declaration (parameter or variable) is implicitly declared as variant.
cheezsteak
cheezsteak
That's just lazy
There should be a Long or Integer somewhere
Hosch250
Hosch250
@Rossco Just install RD and say "Look at all these problems with your code!"
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cheezsteak
cheezsteak
Anything that is explicitly used as primitive type should be declared as that primitive type.
RubberDuck
RubberDuck
21:59
Both @cheezsteak!
I'd call it sloppy at best @Rossco. If things aren't typed, there are likely other issues. My question for them would be if they're dedicated to paying the tech debt.
Mat's Mug
Mat's Mug
22:53
@RubberDuck yeah, like, install Rubberduck, run inspections, "fix all", done ;-)
RubberDuck
RubberDuck
23:17
That ^. R# has been a godsend at my new job.

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