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12:02 AM
cries in memelish
 
Reddit (and other sites) have apparently done a 'good' job, the first result that pops up after reverse-image-searching that image is the Wikipedia page for "Nazi human experimentation"
 
shit
 
oooh re-read great historical fiction book with Nazi experimentation recently
 
The heck?? Dang. It was just a funny Office meme...
I did not know it had been turned into something horrific
 
Should The Office be something I should watch? TBH I'm completely out of the loop with any TV series.
(except the really popular memes, of course)
 
12:10 AM
Honestly, it's a good show, but it's one of the shows where you either think the jokes are really funny or it's just not that funny to you. It's subjective. I personally like it but not everyone does
I'd recommend giving it a try
It has also produced some excellent memes
 
List of bobble's Good TV Shows: Marvel's Agents of SHIELD, The Good Place, Sherlock
 
Sherlock is incredible!!!
 
and some others that I can't remember right now
 
I watched it for the first time last year and I could NOT get over the portrayal of Moriarty and the "Sherlocked" episode
Absolutely fantastic show
 
There are also the shows that I haven't seen but are "required" for SF&F fandom. Star Trek (all), Supernatural, Doctor Who, etc.
Oh another Good TV Show: Good Omens.
 
12:14 AM
Hot take: I don't like Doctor Who.
 
I have no opinion on the matter
 
I gave it a good shot and watched the first two seasons, and I honestly just found it generic and kinda silly, there was nothing profound or interesting about it. I don't get it. But I respect people who like it
People go nuts for that show
 
Maybe the more recent ones would be an improvement?
 
When my friends heard I didn't like it, they made me watch the 16th (?) doctor because they said he was the best one. I still didn't like it
I dunno, I just don't get the show I guess.
 
I think the latest is the 13th. Don't quote me on that
 
12:17 AM
Oh. Who was the doctor with the crazy scarf? That was the one
 
Again, I've never watched the show. So no idea.
 
The one with the crazy scarf was Tom Baker.
(Fourth.)
 
Him, yeah
 
I think the only series I watched to the end recently was "Chernobyl" - That was really good IMO. If anything, I'm more of a movies-guy, I guess.
 
4^2 = 16
 
12:18 AM
Or are we talking about a more recent one with a different crazy scarf?
 
@LukasRotter Chernobyl is a masterpiece, fully agree.
I honestly don't remember, the doctors blur together
 
Hope nobody quotes you on that exact sentence :P
 
Out of context that does look pretty horrible. Lol
But like, the only really decent Doctor Who episode I thought was genuinely well-written and touching was "The Empty Child," the rest are just meh to me.
 
That one definitely wasn't Tom Baker. (He was much longer ago, before the no-longer-terribly-recent reboot.)
 
Yeah, that was First Doctor.
I think? Again I have no clue.
I respect you if you like it, I can see how people like it. It's just not my thing.
 
12:23 AM
No, The Empty Child was ... Tennant (10) or Smith (11), I think.
A lot of people in the UK grow up, or grew up, watching Doctor Who. So there's a certain element of nostalgia to their liking, maybe.
ah, no, Empty Child was Eccleston (9). A bit earlier than I thought. That was the first series of the reboot.
 
I mean, it's definitely not a bad show at all, there's some funny stuff in it and I found the character of Rose kinda charming. But I just don't get the absolutely wild love for it I guess
It must have been the reboot I watched then
 
The other thing that I think helps build enthusiasm is the fact that there's so much of it. If you include both pre-reboot and post-reboot it's the longest-running TV show anywhere, ever. So there's lots of "lore" one can get familiar with, repeating themes to spot, and so forth. It's the kind of thing one can really be a fan of.
 
Totally fair, yeah.
 
For my part, I enjoy it but I'm not really a fan. The last couple of series, with Jodie Whittaker as the Doctor, have been pretty poor -- not because of Whittaker in particular, not because OMG female Doctor, how absurd, but because the guy they've got running the show now just isn't terribly good.
 
I've heard a general consensus to that effect as well, people say the recent series has very poor writing. There was apparently an episode about a poorly disguised Trump stand-in running a company full of giant spiders and I guess it was pretty cringe-inducing.
Social metaphors are hard enough to do without being ham-fisted, but it's worse when you just make a "haha politics bad" episode
I don't know though, again I'm not a fan of the show so I'm criticizing it from a place of already not liking the show :p
 
12:38 AM
Recent Who definitely gets annoyingly and clumsily preachy too often.
 
There's a time and place, yeah.
Or at least there's a way to more delicately integrate social issues into a show without making a big deal about it.
We've gotten off puzzles again haven't we? Lol
 
Sep 15 at 18:49, by bobble
and when did this turn into the Literature chat?
 
I blame the bobblies
 
baa-boow, baa-boow
can you hear them?
 
baa-boow, baa-boow
I imagine it being like a boingy noise
 
12:45 AM
the baby ones are more boingy, the old ones have gruff this-is-serious voices
 
Just imagining a big bobblie opening its mouth and saying in the deepest gravelly Batman voice, "i'm gonna suck the puzzle juice right outta ya"
2
 
dies laughing
 
Like Detective Pikachu, but if he was a giant fuzzy Bobblie
 
also: real-life fuzzy bobblie updates?
 
As I said, today has been too busy for sewing but I will try and block out a few hours tomorrow :p I can show you the pattern I made
 
12:48 AM
sure!
 
I basically just took a pattern from a King Boo plushie that happened to have the perfect crown shape on it
trying to find the source image, hang on
ok it is this but modified to have three points instead of four:
 
looks wonderful
no jewels, right?
 
no jewels yeah, it's just the shape i needed
and i found squishy ass stuffing so it's gonna be SQUISH to the max
 
squishy! squishy! squishy!
yes yes this is required
 
SQUISHY
 
12:54 AM
"Maximum Squish" (said by Very Serious bobblie elder)
 
I was also gonna make little button eyes for it
Not sure how I'm going to do the mouth yet but I'll figure something out :p
 
a bit of red velvety fabric, with a black sewed-on border?
 
Potentially yeah, I wanted to match your avatar look because it's got that solid red-on-black look. So I'm trying to figure out technique
It will sit proudly in my plushie collection when I'm done
 
and you will squish it?
many times?
 
I will squish it
 
12:59 AM
good
 
You've still got me thinking about how much I miss watching Sherlock, I gotta watch that show again
 
I got my mom to use up an email account so we could have Netflix free-trial for a rewatch
 
Nice
My favorite episode is 100% the Sherlocked episode, but I also really love the Hound of the Baskervilles one
 
I like all of it. Don't make me choose
 
They're all great
The "battle armor" scene absolutely killed me when I first watched it
I never thought a man putting on a suit would make me completely bawl my eyes out
 
1:05 AM
When I was watching the first time through, I would go to school every day and my friends would go "ooh, just wait until the next episode!"
 
Yup, the friend I watched it with would constantly be like "ohhh, wait until you get to the next one"
Absolute gem of a show
 
bye for dinner :)
 
See ya :)
 
y'all have dinner later
*late
 
Bobble is in a different time zone than me I think, I live in Michigan
 
1:18 AM
@Sciborg Bobble seems to have similar timezones as I
 
Could be, I'm not sure what timezone you guys are in to be honest. I just assumed a few hours behind Michigan
 
I'm UTC-8 (well, daylight savings, so UTC-9)
 
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Q: Hidden words in sentences

00xxqhxx00There is one word hidden in each of these sentences, what are they related to? I held the food to my lips. The den in the jungle lives the lion. High-quality biscuits are frequently requested. Most of the cars in the nation are old. Parents or kids are allowed to enter this place. The water leve...

 
I think Bobble is either UTC-8 or UTC-7 (not accounting for daylight savings)
 
It's 9:20 PM where I am, not sure what zone that is
 
1:20 AM
@bobble we had these opportunities to do extra work/activities called "step-ups", per subject. When a step-up is done correctly (i.e. reaching a score threshold), the grade for the corresponding subject will increase. If we didn't do any of the step-ups, our grades for each subject stay the same as from third quarter.
 
It's 2:21 am in England
Does Michigan observe DLS?
 
yes
 
Yup
 
You're UTC-5 or UTC-6 I think
 
Holland, MI if that helps narrow it down
 
1:22 AM
I'm utc-8/utc-7
 
@Sciborg Hold on, so I'm UTC-8, not accounting for DLS. That means you're UTC-5
 
@sciborg you are utc-4 I think
with DST
 
Sciborg is three hours ahead of us
 
yep
 
Dayum
 
1:24 AM
@merrybot No, Sciborg would be UTC-6 accounting for DLS
 
ah right
@sciborg - bobblies update?
i just have to ask lol
 
Alright I've put the OG Bobblie back on
some time
 
 
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2:34 AM
@NorthLæraðr UTC-7, right now is 7:34
 
3:13 AM
@Sciborg Which one in Michigan? Isn't Michigan split into Eastern and Central? I personally am Eastern.
 
user478740
3:24 AM
It's 10.24 in the morning where I'm from!
 
I think I'm Eastern because I'm in Holland, which is West Michigan
 
3:53 AM
I'm finding this construction process really hard. For some reason thinking of & setting up deductions feels impossible. :(
 
@Sciborg I think that is big, though.
 
user478740
4:15 AM
The bobblies are REAL CUTE! I mean, taking care of my penguins has been hard until the bobblies started to become like toys for my antarctic animals!
 
user478740
Is it normal that they started acting like toys?
 
user478740
Ok, wait, ouchhh, they're biting me!
 
5:56 AM
@Sciborg No, you're Eastern because you're in Holland, which is not extremely-western-part-of-UP. (See en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_in_Michigan )
And I just discovered that there's a city in Michigan called Menominee. (doo doo, doo doo doo)
 
6:46 AM
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Q: How can this three dimensional ball maze be solved?

user2617804You have to manually move the ball around and holes join sides and front and back and and as far I can tell you get blocked in the back. My son is trying solve it and I want make sure it can be solved.

 
 
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user478740
7:47 AM
Hello
 
lo
 
o7
 
^o.{1,2}$
 
8:11 AM
print lc substr crypt (giaan, msh210), 6, 5
 
user478740
8:31 AM
It's quite empty here
 
@Anonymus25 I'm pretty sure you've been told twice in the past fortnight or so that no one's speaking at the moment doesn't mean it's empty. I understand that chat in here is just for fun and perhaps therefore you don't try to make sure to remember what's said, that would be very understandable, but if you are at all concerned by your inability to remember something today that you were told twice recently then I recommend you see a medical professional.
 
you also got a response from... four different people to your initial "hello"; I don't see how that's empty in any case
 
@msh210 ... I think that was just smalltalk.
 
@JohnDvorak Sorry?
(Unless the five conversationalists in the past hour and eight people in the room all together is what you consider "empty" -- I mean, the room can certainly handle many more people -- in which case fair enough.)
 
I think it's obvious that the room isn't actually empty. Seems more like an attempt to ignite conversation.
 
8:43 AM
Well, it certainly ignited msh...
 
@JohnDvorak Perhaps my conversational skills are defective -- no, scratch that, they are -- but I don't think stating something you know to be a lie is a usual way of starting a conversation. Unless it's meant sarcastically like "nice day, eh?" on a terribly rainy day.
Maybe that was the intent though.
 
a derivative of cunningham's law?
 
@Mithical but that's easy, I'm highly inflammable
@Mithical I had to look that up. Thanks for teaching me something new today.
Even old fogies learn new things.
 
TIL, too. And I'm sure I'll forget the name again.
 
Just bring it up and call it Murphy's law...
 
8:48 AM
gotcha :D
 
:-)
 
On a side note, I think TSL is actually highly active when compared to previous activity levels per month, lets say. Is there any graph of activity for a SE chat? I don't think you can run data.SE on chats, unfortunately.
 
9:02 AM
the only activity graphs I'm aware of are at chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/info/14524/the-sphinxs-lair
 
I do suspect it was busier before SE2019 though...
 
9:16 AM
@msh210 To be honest, I have mixed feelings about this. You do have a point about reminding the user that the people may be quiet sometimes and thus the chat may not always be active as the user wants it to be, but my opinion is that the part about recommending that "you see a medical professional" and implying that the user had an "inability to remember" was uncalled for, because that is demeaning whether it is true or not true for the person concerned.
Also, I agree with what JohnDvorak said: "it's quite empty here" seems a mere attempt to make the chat active. In such a case, I would just ignore if I'm busy.
(To make clear, I just wanted to point some things out; I am not annoyed at your annoyance.)
oh, i thought i could delete messages past 3 minutes... it doesn't seem to be the case
(...in any case, i don't want to assume you're annoyed either)
 
9:45 AM
@oAlt I certainly didn't mean to be demeaning and don't see how a neurological problem -- if it exists -- would be something one would demean about. If you took it that way, @Anonymus25, then I'm sorry, and I apologize. I was just looking out for your well-being.
 
@msh210 I just meant that it seems similar to saying "you're dumb". In any case, I'm glad to hear your side
 
user478740
10:16 AM
Ok, so what can we do now?
 
user478740
Usually there are things to talk about
 
10:28 AM
Solving the C4 would be a nice thing
 
10:52 AM
D is 500 in roman numerals, which seems like a promising ending for a past-tense answer, but i'm not sure how "attendees" fits in
 
It feels as if there's too much clue for the answer.
If, per hint 1, the def is at the end, it seems it more or less has to be "shaken" or "badly shaken".
Which suggests "attendees" comes at the end (unless it's part of what's "removed").
There aren't a lot of short words for attendees. GATE springs to mind as being (1) short and (2) plausible for the end of a word, but then everything before it needs to yield just three letters.
I don't know what "throat cut" means. Removing the second letter? Removing something that means "throat"? Something else entirely?
There are lots of variants of the name Elizabeth. (Or "Elizabeth" could mean ER, referring to the current Queen of England, or the surname of someone whose first name is Elizabeth.)
Maybe "net strike" means an anagram of NET. Or maybe we need to "cut by net strike", i.e., remove an anagram of BYNET or maybe just of NET.
E.g., maybe it's Elizabeth BENNET from Pride and Prejudice and we remove NET to get BEN. But then NET hasn't been anagrammed so "strike" would have to go with the next bit. (A word meaning "strike" with its outer portions stripped? or with something meaning "limbs" removed?)
Or it could be "limbs removed before five hundred", removing LEGSD or something. Or even "limbs removed before five hundred attendees", removing ARMSDGATE or something. Not that either of those specific strings seems likely to be there for removal.
Oh, "before five hundred attendees" could mean "before five hundred, attendees" yielding something like GATED?
Probably not exactly that; only --GATED words seem to be LIGATED (tied off), NEGATED (cancelled) and TOGATED (wearing a toga).
Still confused about the throat.
Anyway, I need to go and make lunch now.
 
11:22 AM
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Q: Can a square of size 1000.25 fit a million and one unit squares?

SE - stop firing the good guysA square with a side length of exactly 1000 can obviously be packed with exactly a million unit squares. If we increase the side length to 1001, then 2001 more squares can fit. But if we increase the side length by only 1/4, can you still squeeze in an extra square?

 
i don't get how "gate" means attendees?
 
It can mean "number of people who attend a sports event" - apparently only said informally in the UK: dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/gate
 
11:44 AM
@GarethMcCaughan or remove a synonym of "net" (cut by striking "net")
@GarethMcCaughan or "was..."
 
12:04 PM
I was thinking along many of the same lines, plus: maybe "net strike" is a word for hitting the net in a net sport. But there doesn't seem to be a word for that in the sports I looked up. Hitting the net with a ball is sometimes a "fault" in tennis, but only an example of a fault and not the only fault. And hitting the net with your body is sometimes a "net fault" in volleyball but again it's not the only fault. So I doubt this is a useful avenue.
 
user478740
How about a hint? Pretty close to 24 hours
 
Well, now that Gareth posted a whole slew of ideas, we all got hints to think about. Not from the clue setter, of course, but still may well prove valuable.
Especially if @Sciborg knows that one or more them is helpful, there's probably no need to post a hint just yet.
FWIW in botany "throat" is synonymous with "fauces" (or, less commonly, the singular form "faux").
Not the CCCC: Tap throat with end of lancet instead of tip of scalpel (6)
 
1:02 PM
0
Q: Name of this setup

SHWWhat we call this setup? I just try to swap the corner and edge-center of each side. Do we've name for this?

 
For those of you fiddling around with interesting phones: itinerarium.github.io/phoneme-synthesis
 
1:59 PM
@Sciborg I've seen a total of two or three episodes, all from this century. After two of them, I dared to ask about a technicality ("how does... work") on SFF.SE, and was told not to worry about that sort of thing with that show, since it doesn't. I was disappointed and didn't choose to watch much more.
 
@msh210 To your earlier comment, I don't know why you are telling me where I live, and you are incorrect about it...? Holland is not in the UP by any stretch, it's in West Michigan, by Zeeland and Grand Rapids...
Do you think I don't know where I live...?
 
@Sciborg I know that.
I wasn't telling you where you live. I was telling you why you're in Eastern Time.
 
Ah, forgive me. I thought you were saying Holland was located in the Upper Peninsula and was very confused.
 
Eastern Time in Michigan is all of Michigan except the extreme western part of the UP.
 
That makes more sense. I read you very incorrectly on that :p
My bad
And yes, I do dislike Doctor Who as discussed earlier largely because people who enjoy it are adamant that it does not have any flaws, when it obviously has many of them.
 
2:05 PM
No worries.
(By the way, a friend of mine went to the Ohio State University and refuses to mention Michigan by name. In Facebook posts he'll write "*ichigan" if for some reason he needs to refer to it. Orally I've heard him say things like "that state up north with an M".)
 
wtf is up with that
 
I've seen similar sentiments before, luckily I graduated from a private college that didn't really do sports so I never had to worry about that rivalry :p
To explain @matt, University of Michigan and Ohio State are rivals
 
I see.
 
@Sciborg my school did sports but it wasn't big into them and I personally was even less so, so...
 
My school basically only had two sports (basketball and volleyball) and we only competed with other small colleges. I'm not really a sports person either so I never went to any games :p
Too loud and chaotic for me
 
2:12 PM
agreed
 
my school's team was called the Violets . . . the Violets
 
as in flower, or as in color?
 
I mean, it comes from the color, but it's plural so I guess the flower? I dunno
 
(or did they leave it ambiguous by only having team Orange and team Violet?)
 
@JohnDvorak heh, no they only had one
 
2:14 PM
I would really love to know the origin story of that
NYU?
 
Fun fact, flowers of oranges are actually white
 
the official story is that "For more than 100 years, New York University athletes have worn the distinctive violet and white colors that were derived from the violets that grew under the shade of the trees in Washington Square Park. While some questioned the resulting nickname—the Violets—because it lacked the aggressive, competitive connotation that goes along with sport"
no kidding
 
That is... absolutely wild
 
nice
 
I always thought NYU was the Bobcats because of their mascot, I forgot they were literally just... The Violets
It's like having a bunch of buff, muscular sports people on your team and then naming it "The Pretty Flowers"
 
3:04 PM
@GarethMcCaughan my idea for "short word meaning attendees" was MEN, because it's a generic word for any sort of group.
 
3:32 PM
I don't really see how it means attendees. Would MEN also be reasonably clued by "mathematicians", "Muslims", "meat-packers", and "Moldovans"? I'd buy it for "soldiers" or "workers", maybe.
 
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Q: The art of computer programming

Paul PanzerHere is a simple but I hope fun one: Can you recreate any of the following patterns? Rules: Integer arithmetic only Stricly local, i.e. only a point's x,y coordiantes may be used to compute its color No lookup tables No brute-forcing (that's why the no-computers tag is there in case you ...

 
3:48 PM
Hi
 
Avi
@msh210 Flowers are absolutely gnarly. With a near unbreakable grip on a clump of earth, they put a claim on the land that is theirs. They outcompete smaller shrubs by strangling them before they can even grow, sucking away desperately needed sunlight with their bushy interiors. They defend themselves with by any means necessary, including thorns, pungent scents, irritants, and even poisons. They can even lift (water, through the xylem).
 
Hi, @YouKnowMe!
 
@bobble Can I ask Mental Ability Test questions here?
 
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Q: The largest lettered word which you can make and continue make words from it by deleting $1$ letter from it everytime

AnonymousOk, here is a simple puzzle to think :- Find the largest lettered word such that deleting one letter at a time can give you a meaningful word in each step . Note that only deletions are allowed, in each step you can only delete one letter. Also proper nouns, abbreviations or acronyms, rearrang...

 
In chat or on main?
They are allowed on main, and you will probably get an answer, but don't expect many upvotes. You'll also have to clearly cite your source.
 
4:02 PM
@bobble In chat.
I don't want to spam the chat, that's why I am asking.
 
I probably won't be able to help much, but one question won't hurt
You'll get less of an audience posting in chat than on main
Hi @Wolff!
 
@bobble Hi
 
Welcome to the Sphinx's Lair :)
 
 
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5:25 PM
@bobble Wait... you're in the same timezone as I am
Did I mess up how to count my timezones?
Oh, I did. Whoops
@merrybot You're right, Sciborg is UTC-4. I can't do arithmetic
 
I have relatives who are ahead of me (Michigan), behind me (Hawai'i), and really behind/ahead of me (China). I'm used to timezones :)
 
I thought that PST was UTC-8, and daylight savings added an hour
I forgot you lose an hour
 
Some <expletive> <expletive> gave my phone number to some spammers, so now I keep getting spam calls/texts addressed to "Michael", telling him about where he can get "0$/mo" health care
 
How much is that per sextodecimo?
 
??? I don't know what that last word means
... or for that matter, now that I've googled "sextodecimo", what the question means.
 
5:54 PM
@bobble Thanks! I came here some months ago and learned about CC. Just wanted to stop by and see the latest.
 
It's Sciborg's second. They somehow have gotten two, while only having joined the Lair recently (less than 2 weeks, most definetly)
 

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