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00:04
@EricTressler Pretty sure we still don't have an alphabet for the last one though
I guess we could guess it based on the others, assuming mapping works
What if the middle just spells red herring in some very obscure language
@thecoder16 definitely not
@EricTressler pointy B = B in English?
it was a joke :P spyfall this afternoon(morning? evening?) was filled with references to red herrings and i'm in that mindset lol
I think the word "marvelous" is interesting. I had a look to see whether there's anything like this in Marvel comics/movies. Didn't find anything, but I know nothing about that stuff and someone else might have more luck.
@GarethMcCaughan Avengers, 44:06: "And you're doing a marvellous job with that."
00:13
We may be at cross purposes. I was just suggesting that "marvelous" might be meant to point us towards Marvel stuff, rather than literally meaning "marvelous" or being quoted from anywhere.
(That seems more likely to be an area of Rubio's expertise than e.g. ancient Etruscan)
(but I don't actually know much about what Rubio does and doesn't know)
of the 3 cypher languages i've looked at from Marvel (doot, the builder one, and demonic) i can't find any matching symbols.
@GarethMcCaughan well what marvel stuff could the alphabet possibly clue though :/
Also, I'd say "invented" here would restrict it a lot
I don't know. I thought maybe the characters in the question might derive from some Marvel thing. I wasn't able to find any sign that they do, though.
@GarethMcCaughan Apparently Marvel's version of Thor's hammer has some gibberish Futhark runes on it though :P
Also: transliterated from various alphabets, part of it is o?b?m??o?t?[ch]??bk??? (ch is chi)
00:29
Doesn't seem super-promising, does it?
O and M are from Pigpen cipher so probably really wrong
00:59
Have we already noticed that with two exceptions, all the runes are mirror-symmetric, which would usually mean they aren't really runes at all?
@Bass But most runes are mirror-symmetric?
@EricTressler Since when were any English words normal :P
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Q: No Reception? No Forecast! A simple puzzle

IIRawCodeIIThis is my very first puzzle on this site. It's probably easy to solve looking at all the smart people here, but I wanted to dip my feet into the waters. Hope you enjoy! (This story is fictional) Today was a very cold and snowy day. I was texting my wierd friend, here's my log: <...

01:30
@ASCII-only not sure where you’re getting those from
however, i would like to note that the pointy B, as others said, is almost definitely a mapping to “B”
the crooked X is a mapping to “G”
or X, actually, as that was an etruscan character
@TrojanByAccident Etruscan, Phoenician(?), and Pigpen
ah phoenician, haven’t gotten there yet
noteworthy that many of these chars are similar to runic though
i believe the set of two characters next to each other pointing upwards map together as “T”
or separately(ish) as “CL”
@TrojanByAccident Runic says they map as ll though?
@ASCII-only push them together and they map as T
also, only the second part of it is runic (not pushed together)
the first is etruscan
@TrojanByAccident It's in the runic alphabet image I linked though?
01:39
mm gimme a sec
Also the image says it maps as th/thorn. Plus, I'm sure it's intentionally apart (and also one character so it's not LL anyway)
ah yes in camunic it would be an L
i was more using raetic
Oh that doesn't have futhark (see here)
yeah important to note that in some forms of futhark, that would actually be “TL”
specifically younger futhark
of course, we could be going down the completely wrong track
many of the characters are similar to latin ones
could be something like
“CH?TOY?CHY?XTEB?AYD”
granted, that makes no sense
i’m thinking it’s a blend of etruscan, runic, and probably a third language
@TrojanByAccident yeah but we haven't been able to find an alphabet with the last letter
01:52
that’s the missing one then
i have reason to believe the fifth letter is “N”
What is your reason
ancient hungarian
unless it’s just asking when writing was invented
in which case, 3200 BC
02:08
@TrojanByAccident well you'd need to solve the cipher first to find out the actual invention
Heyo guys.
I recently got the reputation to chat here.
nice
quick question - are you sure your math is right?
i thought it was at first glance, but after checking, i’m not sure
@iiraw
@ASCII-only I’m saying what if writing is the invention
@TrojanByAccident probably not
true
caesar cipher perhaps?
It's clearly a straight up substitution cipher: "ER ANOTHER THING MUST B"
02:20
substitution i meant kms
@Alconja "When was this marvelouser another thing must bthing first invented?" :P
also "first invented" - wat
True, "first invented" is apparently redundant, which probably means it's significant. Of course, writing was invented multiple times independently, I think?
Yeah, it was
i just realized that we could include the new word in the sentence
Hmm there might be more hidden in the image. possibly.
02:26
interestingly the image alt text doesn't include the word "first"
@Alconja That wasn't intentional. Don't read into it
(and fixed)
I assumed not, but good to have clarity
@Rubio There's no other hidden things right?
@ASCII-only The steganography part has been fully found, yes.
02:29
:/ the steganography part is very hard
If even Puzzling's own god can't figure it out immediately then this is basically guaranteed to be unsolved for a decade maybe a week at least
Hehee
Mmm maybe unimportant but I’d like to note that deus’s edited version is actually smaller than the original
Oh while we're on the topic of steganography: I should totally hide some images in my avatar
@TrojanByAccident mith?
Deusovi's, you mean?
yeah that one sorry i’m tired
02:35
@TrojanByAccident It's the same size
by over 3,000 bytes it’s smaller
@TrojanByAccident yeah probably either better compression or Rubio's text was antialiased
mine is a "8 bit/color RGB" and Deus's is "8 bit colormap"
presumably the colormap is more compact
@Rubio Sounds like the colormap is using a palette, IDK though
the text in mine is antialiased for sure so if Deus brutally filtered it to fewer colors that'd make the colormap more efficient.
But yeah, there's no non-image data in mine, so the 3k diff is not relevant
02:39
interesting
@Rubio I mean he probably reduced the number of areas (for the PNG to define) because he converted all the brush strokes to just red instead of off-white and a few other off-whites
@ASCII-only Yah
that’s some impressive steganography btw @rubio
@TrojanByAccident :/ that's like steganography 101
To anyone that's still bothering to try and solve it: the tag seems important
We just have to figure out where the trivia is from
@ASCII-only i didn’t mean his idea, i more meant the implementation
02:41
@ASCII-only +1
I posted that in a rush and forgot to set the trivia/knowledge tags up front; they were supposed to be there from the get-go.
looks at question
Oh >_>
@everyone it appears to be Wakandan
btw @Rubio are you sure that’s the whole stego? cause i’m seeing more under these letters
no wonder we couldn't find anything
@TrojanByAccident yes deus was just using global magic wand
brb transliterating
yeah lol that’s it
@TrojanByAccident I don't know what you mean. Deus' image is all you would need to solve this now.
02:46
@ASCII-only That's a thing?
Huh.
SOUND ABSORBING METAL
i.e. Vibranium
... and they're off
We were thinking about Marvel, but I'm not sure why we didn't connect this with the recent movie.
@Deusovi Yeah someone commented
@Deusovi Well, who'd expect Wakanda to get an alphabet in the new film
3 hours ago, by Gareth McCaughan
We may be at cross purposes. I was just suggesting that "marvelous" might be meant to point us towards Marvel stuff, rather than literally meaning "marvelous" or being quoted from anywhere.
you responded to that message, actually
02:47
I was chuckling reading the transcript back
Moral of the story: check recent things if it's not on whatever wiki/resource page yet
mm trying to figure out how to post an image here
Interestingly enough, quipqiup spits out "SOUND ABSORBING METAL" as, like, the first hit if you just treat it as a substitution cipher — IF the word breaks are there. without them, it just gives up :)
yup, and we didn't have the word breaks
Of course not hehe
02:49
I assume the answer is 1966 then. Who's posting?
well. I could but it'd be somewhat anticlimactic
10/10 Rubio should totally post
lol
I can't find anything about the language besides "it's Xhosa". And that's not a script for Xhosa, AFAIK.
Sid
Sid
@ASCII-only what's that?
02:51
@Sid Wakanda is a fictional African nation in Black Panther (a recent superhero movie)
I had to do some digging to find the symbols online, but was able to find it eventually
i’d argue that fictionally, it was created near the beginning of the universe
as it’s a natural metal
right, and I was looking for the fictional date too
@Rubio For me it's the fourth result when google image searching "wakandan alphabet"
first result for me
02:53
@Deusovi I saw 1966 too :P but I put it on hold as well to look for the date of origin of Wakandan Vibranium
@TrojanByAccident Are you sure
So... again: who's posting?
I'd be happy to if nobody else is.
Sid
Sid
@Deusovi ah. Got it.
yeah, using “wakanda alphabet” it’s #4, but #1 it still has the alphabet
Either form of vibranium is 1966, btw.
@Rubio how so?
02:54
Never mind. It's #1 and #6 for me
That's the year they first were invented for the comics they turned up in.
Who knows, for all we know Vibranium was invented in-universe too :P
Right, that. ^^
3 mins ago, by TrojanByAccident
as it’s a natural metal
In-universe, Wakandan vibranium was discovered; it came from a meteorite
@Rubio Well the universe is pretty extensive, for all I knew they might have revealed that Vibranium was artificial
02:58
mm someone fix my formatting please
Not so far. (There is artificial vibranium, but it isn't linked to Wakanda which would make its use in the answer somewhat unsatisfying; nor, as far as I can tell, does it have the sound absorbing qualities of Wakandan vibranium.)
Plus for some reason it appears the only revealed location of Vibranium is on Earth AFAIK, which is unusually rare for a natural metal
Now it's time to solve the forecast puzzle, I guess
oh, I just finished typing up an answer
Sid
Sid
Jan 3 at 22:22, by Eric Tressler
See, if we all just work together, eventually Deusovi will figure it out.
So now there's two answers. mutter :)
@Deusovi you should have linked to a conversation
welp. Deus is getting the coveted checkmark for finding the runes in the first place.
@Rubio I was trying to find the runes too :P except I'm not on my laptop so sadly the only image editing software I have access to is M$ Paint
which apparently is from a "Brisk promotional package", so is actually an Official Thing™
so...
back to the C4?
or this or this
or this ancient puzzle:
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Q: My God, it's full of stars!

paramesisAn entry in Fortnightly Topic Challenge #32: Grid Deduction Hybrids My dear friend, unknown to us, may have relocated again. He sent me imagery and constellation maps indicating that a distant red spiraling galaxy was at his zenith, and nearly collinear with the largest local galactic cores. ...

03:27
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Q: TV Title Mondegreens

user1118321Inspired by the original Twisted TV Titles and its follow-up, I came up with a similar puzzle. This one builds on the idea of Mondegreens - misheard lyrics (like “Excuse me while I kiss this guy” instead of “Excuse me while I kiss the sky”). This is misheard TV Show Titles. I’ll give a descripti...

@ASCII-only the temp is 7° but pretty sure it was supposed to be 0° because it can’t snow above 0°
@TrojanByAccident No, it just has to be less than 5 degrees. Plus, I'm sure it's not that obvious...
according to something i found, it has to be 0
still, 7 > 5
and yeah, i’m pretty sure it is
@TrojanByAccident For water to freeze, yes
@TrojanByAccident :| then it would be a very bad puzzle
Plus, I'm sure the tags aren't there to be misleading
ah atmospheric temperature has to be 0 nvm
and it’s also their first puzzle
04:09
also this
04:39
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Q: What are John and Marsha's **real** names?

Chowzen My actions fail me through the years So now I'll speak through windswept tears. I'll never get your wandering ways; Remote attention fickly sways. You leave me swirling, dazed, and lost in gloom. To stalk is hardly my intent, no. I follow you, so that you'll know There's lif...

04:55
mmm more pharma spam
 
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06:01
“i love you from my depths when you are blue” - ocean?
 
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Q: How to beat puzzler's block

Beastly Gerbil Rather unfortunately I’ve been brought town by a severe case of the iconic puzzlers block. Every foilish pursuit to break it has led to it getting worse wich more sekatsim. Visions of riddles will come and go but nothing ever stays. Even skipping trying to make hard ones and trying to make t...

 
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08:56
The c4 has so many letter juggling words it's really hard to figure out which are literal and which are instructional..
@ffao maybe "un-brew-Ed"
Sounds like it could be retrograde brewing. "Unbrewed" also means "pure and genuine".
I don't really get how that would work
09:12
In a very difficult and stretchy manner at best, I'm afraid.
 
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10:24
I'd give a hint but I don't know what to say
I'll give it if I can come up with anything
 
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Q: The strange story of Lord Lefthide

KeelhaulLord Lefthide was found dead in its mansion, to what it would seem of a heart attack. But it appears that moments before his death, he was writing some uncanny childish story. He was indeed found dead at his desk with a pen in his hand and the following note in front of him: "That wretch ! He...

 
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12:51
I wonder if this H Walters is a puzzling pro of some kind, the first puzzle (the preposterous one) he posted reeks of Superb Quality all over. The idea is clever, the puzzle interesting (hard, but solvable), everything was double checked and there even was an inbuilt safeguard to break symmetry, which made the answer unique. Even the font is super legible and the layout is pretty much perfect, and the flavour text is educational and professional sounding.
A little bit of googling revealed nothing, but if that's the general quality of his/her puzzles, I'd really be interested in finding more.
13:05
</blatant spam for an excellent question sitting at a measly 12 points>
13:38
12 points isn't exactly "measly" :P
14:08
I’m in a bit of a pickle
I made a puzzle, but I forgot to add something essential to it.
People already pointed it out, and changing it now would just make it ridiculously obvious.
What should I do?
That's a tricky situation
I'd suggest edit it in anyway, an easy puzzle is better than a broken puzzle
Hmm. Okay.
(maybe also point out that edit history contains spoilers)
Oh okay
Anyways, maybe you could take a crack at my puzzle?
14:46
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Q: I now want a smoothie

AdamYou go to the local farmers market in an alternate universe. You browse various items and find that: The blueberries cost 4.5₤ The gooseberries cost 5.5₤ The lemons cost 6₤ The satsumas cost 6.5₤ The strawberries cost 7₤ How much are the bananas?

15:10
That seems like a tricky one
15:26
@IIRawCodeII answer is up
I wonder if my answer would have more upvotes than Deusovi’s, had I not made it Community Wiki and people could see when it was posted 🤔
16:12
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Q: Olympics connect?

1234567890Since the CS50x Puzzle Day has ended here in the USA, I think I can now ask this question. The following table has been given and we need to find a single word related to it. The logic could be anything, no restrictions. Try to think out of the box as much as possible. I found out all the winne...

 
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17:14
Hmm, I decided not to upvote the H Walters question earlier because I thought it was under clued
There's nothing at all to go with if you don't make the really big 8x8 -> knight's tour leap
Sid
Sid
@Sphinx Anyone got past Puzzler's Block?
The numbers form letters
But no idea what to do after that
BG's looks a bit overclued - mistakes -> dot to dot -> connect the dots on a clock would have been fine
Seeing as I did that without even noticing the tick took hint
Sid
Sid
17:33
@ffao That, I have already gotten. I haven't proceeded after that.
I don't understand what the first letter is, though.
should be a B, I think?
Sid
Sid
Ah, yeah. The way I drew it, it looked to me like a lollipop. :P
@ffao hints for the C4 maybe?
any idea what the hint should be?
Sid
Sid
Ideally, something that brings anyone other than yourself closer to the answer. :P
Or a letter, if you want to give that up.
17:54
30h C4 hint: "against" does not mean opposition.
@Sid I thought it was a sideways umbrella at first
@ffao Agreed.
@ffao And here, too. (I saw the puzzle and immediately thought "connect the dots on a clock".)
18:20
There’s a question with a bounty of +100. I added my two cents and I’m hoping I get answered
*accepted
Sid
Sid
@IIRawCodeII The answer is probably "E".
By Gads, in the hint, refers to Gadsby- a book written in 1939 without having the letter "E".
Or something, that ends with "E". Probably LIFE or SPACE, or something like that.
Oh I know.
18:45
It can be argued "God" I guess if you're religious
 
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Q: Musical Rebus Challenge!

NorthThese rebuses are rebuses of songs. Most of them require lateral-thinking, however, some are clear cut logic. Give the name of the song, and the band, plus the album and release date.

20:50
The Lord Lefthide puzzle looks interesting
@Sid another puzzle with an error that could have been avoided by double checking. Sigh
21:16
Does it have an error?
(The I appear at the end of the oldest thing in the world)
 
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22:17
ooh hey, I hit 25k
22:45
you already have all moderation tools, you can stop now
but... but....
Grats. I just hit the once in a lifetime milestone of 17,201
I can downvote one of your posts so you can hit it again
You're too kind
Congrats @Rubio even though you're already a moderator and doesnt even need the rep
22:56
milestones are still milestones :)
Well
And thank you
I guess
I dont understand CCCC still
Ive read the guide like five times
What’s CCCC?
Cryptic Clue, its like a british crossword puzzle
Well actually its just CC i think
I probably sound really ignorant
Sorry to yall CC expert in advance if i said something wrong
23:06
an explanation of CCCC is in the star board
a bad thing about CCCCs is that the easy ones get solved quickly, so usually what you see on the sidebar are the hard ones
so they might look a bit more inaccessible than they truly are, statistically speaking
23:58
@ffao Btw a)What anime is your character from b)does ffao stand for anything
Konosuba and my initials, respectively
Ic

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